no offence to anyone but guys suck They lie, cheat, and many other things. Well 99.9% of them im the .1% that dosent. i ether get lied to cheated on or just bs. MAn i cant stand relationships right now. I am the kind of person that beleves in honor, faithful,and i respect everyone.Why cant i find someone like that.

sorry to hear about your luck with the fellas, but i think you'll find someone eventually who wont do tthat to you, look at it this way- they werent the one, thats all.

Wait... you're a female, or are you coming out of the closet? :p By the way, girls suck as well!

actually i heard a sayiny that " guys suck and girls swallow !!!":D

Yeah, I hear ya Ike :) Girls are no walk in the park either :P

Ok I see that you're a male, I think it's great that you can be so open about your sexual preference. You're young, give it some time and you'll meet someone that has the same values as yourself.

Originally posted by rabinabo
Yeah, I hear ya Ike :) Girls are no walk in the park either :P

I've been with the same girl for over 5 years, and I'm sorry to report that she hasn't sucked in about 2 weeks. I need to do something about that tomorrow! <laughs>

Maybe the ex g/f hijacked his computer and posted that? Though I tend to believe the latter theory of him coming out of the closet. More power to ya!

Originally posted by IkeWRX
I've been with the same girl for over 5 years, and I'm sorry to report that she hasn't sucked in about 2 weeks. I need to do something about that tomorrow! <laughs>

Very funny LOL. yes i have been out for about 4 months now. I thought everyone new about me though ohh well well if you guys dont know what i am. last time i checked i was a male, wait let me check....... yeap i am. Ahh now i know why my insurance is so high:D

for those of us who've become a little less jaded, and look back upon our own troubles, replace "guys" with "girls", like this:

Originally posted by eclps0, and editted by wakeech
no offence to anyone but girls suck They lie, cheat, and many other things. Well 99.9% of them im the .1% that dosent. i ether get lied to cheated on or just bs. MAn i cant stand relationships right now. I am the kind of person that beleves in honor, faithful,and i respect everyone.Why cant i find someone like that.

...people are people eclps0, some are selfish sometimes, and then again, some more than others.

relationships, of whatever sort (romantic, plutonic, casual) can all go through the same sorts of stresses, but yeah, 'cuase of the importance of the intimacy it's those who we love that hurt us the most (it's so often they're the only ones who can).

i find what's best is to try your best not to be spiteful, or seek vengance... being able to forgive, and move on (be it through apologies and a short memory, or cutting ties) is the only way to really deal in a final way with these events which can effect our lives so deeply.

in any case, it sucks that these things happen, but don't be so disheartened... i've had to deal with a TON of heartbreak this last year and a half, and i hope it never gets "easier"... having it hurt so bad is a sign that you can still care (definitely a good thing).

Yeah, I remember one of your posts from a while back, but I still wanted to say that I agree with Ike. :) I'll bet gay men are no picnic either, but I'll take your word for it though.

Oh, I have a funny story with regards to insurance rates for men. See, I'm not exactly a baritone, and over the phone, most people think I'm a woman (when I'm home, people confuse me for my mother). When I bought my last car, I got the insurance over the phone. A month later when I met my agent, he told me that he had quoted me the female price and that the male price was higher. I had found a cheaper rate by then, so I told him to cancel it. I got free insurance for a month though. I'll have to try that again when I get my 8 ;)

btw, make me an avatar.

That's good advice wakeech. You definitely have to cut ties. I found out this past year also that I can't stay friends with someone once they break up with me. It takes some time to heal, and sometimes it never goes away. But it's a sign that you can feel deep emotional ties still.

Originally posted by wakeech
for those of us who've become a little less jaded, and look back upon our own troubles, replace "guys" with "girls", like this:



...people are people eclps0, some are selfish sometimes, and then again, some more than others.

relationships, of whatever sort (romantic, plutonic, casual) can all go through the same sorts of stresses, but yeah, 'cuase of the importance of the intimacy it's those who we love that hurt us the most (it's so often they're the only ones who can).

i find what's best is to try your best not to be spiteful, or seek vengance... being able to forgive, and move on (be it through apologies and a short memory, or cutting ties) is the only way to really deal in a final way with these events which can effect our lives so deeply.

in any case, it sucks that these things happen, but don't be so disheartened... i've had to deal with a TON of heartbreak this last year and a half, and i hope it never gets "easier"... having it hurt so bad is a sign that you can still care (definitely a good thing).



. Very good words wakeech. Thanks. I am just sick and tired of getting used. OK I am a very nice person sometimes to nice.When people see this they try to use me and take advantage of me. so for now one i wont be the nice guy i can be bitch, but i dont like to. In the gay community people use,cheat, deceve for things they want. then stab u in the back after everything they wanted, and when there is nothing left to give.I guess that is what you have to live with when u are gay. Im sure it happens to straight people. Beacuse it happened to me when i wasnt out. i Dated this girl keri for 3 years. and bassicaly controlled me, and used me( i was Pu$$y wipped). So it comes with dating i guess there is the good the bad, and the ugly.

I hate to stereotype here... but gay men in general are rather promiscuous. Men are a little oversexed to begin with so if you're talking men who like men it's bound to lead to some problems. I worked in the restaurant business for a while before I worked in the wine industry. A large majority of the men I worked with were gay and some of them were the biggest sluts I have ever met but there were a few that just wanted to find someone to love and to love them. It's probably going to be trickier for you to find a monogamous partner than it would for a breeder (I love that term) but the right person for you is out there. It just might take a little more time, and you're at an age where finding a serious, longterm, monogamous relationship would be difficult no matter hwat your sexual preference. Keep your chin up and you'll find someone that's right for you when you least expect it, whether that be 1 month or 10 years from now.

My whole problem is that I was talking to this guy for a couple of weeks. We went to Disney together, and had a lot of fun. But 2 days later I went to a youth group meeting I find out he gave his number out to a couple of people that were interested in him. Well the same night he tells me he's not ready for a relationship and we should see other people. basically i felt like i was used i went to Disney with him had so much fun paid for this paid for that than boom he drops me and is now seeing the kid from group.

Your plight is no different from many other 19 year olds, he's just having fun and figuring out his options. Don't be so quick to fall for someone you've had limited contact with and life will not be so tough on you. It's easier said than done, but you're at an age where this will not be the last time something like this happens to you. Chalk it up as something that was not meant to be, learn from the experience, and move on.

i hate to sound naive in these gay matters but how do the guys work out whos the F#$%ee or the F$#%er.

I have a friend who came out and he now is worse than any female with PMT.

The more gay guys the better heck it leaves more women for the men who preffer women to enjoy.

michael

If you guys want me to answer anything pm me. I dont want to disturn some other members.

;)

Ok OK, please... TMI.

Wisdom beyond your years Wakeech. Very well said. You'll get through it Eclps0.

its up to the person basically. some loev being a top ( do all the work) SOme loving being a bottom (dosent have to do a thing but hurts like hell at first) And then the bi of bottom and top verstile. verstile is what it means u can switch from being top or bottom. They also have verstile top perfer top but will do bottom. Also verstiel bottom perfers bottom but will do top.

I think this pretty much crosses the line on acceptable comments. I personally don't want to see this sort of detailed description. Please exercise a little tact and consider others when posting. thanks

RotaryStalker

Originally posted by wakeech
btw, make me an avatar.

**poof** you're an avatar.

Originally posted by RotaryStalker
I think this pretty much crosses the line on acceptable comments. I personally don't want to see this sort of detailed description. Please exercise a little tact and consider others when posting. thanks

RotaryStalker
sorry i was just answering somones ?.

Pretty coincidental, eclps0, a friend of mine that is lesbian gave me almost the exact verbatim explanation of homosexual relations over the weekend.

I say the same as many others, more power to you for being able to be open.

I've been lied on,
cheated,
talked about,
mistreated.

I've been 'buked,
scorned,
talked about, sure as your born.

I've been up,
down,
almost to the ground.

'Long as I got King Jesus,
'Long as I got King Jesus,
'Long, long, long, long, long,
- I don't need nobody else!

Good that you have faith, Racer X-8, but some of us lost it...
I'm still hurting about my girlfriend and we broke up a year ago! It was all a misunderstanding but I couldn't fix it, maybe it wasn't a misunderstanding after all and she wanted to break up with me anyway and used it as an excuse, who knows? I don't seem to be able to forgive, forget and move on. I can't assimilate how a 3 yr relationship with ring, wedding plans and all can end like it never existed...

Faith only helps...it's not gonna insulate anyone from such grief. I've gone thru a bunch here & there. There's not much anyone can say to fix it. It's when you're by yourself that it comes & hits you the hardest. I know. And I hope that an answer comes very soon.

nothing against the original poster but there are just as many bitches out there that do the same thing, you just dont hear about them because most guys just get over them and thats it.

buy stuff for your car
that ALWAYS makes me feel better

Originally posted by Jhouse
nothing against the original poster but there are just as many bitches out there that do the same thing, you just dont hear about them because most guys just get over them and thats it.
umm yeah....we're called females....but i'll pretend i didn't see that...

well...i hope u feel better..there are people out there that don't know how much they actually hurt a person...but what goes around comes around..and he'll remember how much he hurt u one day when he's in the same situation..i was with a man for 3 years...and he used to hang around me 24-7...i told him he needs to quit disregaurding his friends..so he went out for the weekend..begged me to go...anyways..he cheated on me...and now they have a kid...took me 3 years to get over it also...i just realized it's not worth it...

my cuz'n is a lesbian..and i've seen her in 2 serious relationships back to back..it's no better...she's almost 40 also...but u are young...and u have so much to look forward to..now is the time to go out and have fun..especially now that u can pimp out an rx-8...

one day u'll find the right person for you..just hang in there...:D

liquid chick; to clear something up.......

I refer to woman that do such things as BITCHES

I refer to woman that are more respectable than that as WOMEN.

SO FYI I DO NOT REFER TO ALL WOMAN AS BITCHES.

gotcha...i won't get into it...but no one was calling names....just as "dick" wasn't mentioned as this man is...

Originally posted by Dick Carlson
**poof** you're an avatar.

:cool: sweeeet... i can already feel my body getting digitized... :p

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16997

Originally posted by IkeWRX
I've been with the same girl for over 5 years, and I'm sorry to report that she hasn't sucked in about 2 weeks. I need to do something about that tomorrow! <laughs>

Ok, now I'm confused. Are you saying you're bi? Serious question, too.

Originally posted by shift_zoom8
Ok, now I'm confused. Are you saying you're bi? Serious question, too.

Cleverly disguised insult, wait... it's not clever in the least, nice try though.

Not an insult at all. Remember It's Pat on Saturday Night Live? Everyone and their pitbull tried to pry the truth out of IT. And they were all serious.

I just want to know the truth. Can you handle the truth?

huh, wat, who... wah! I am straight.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by shift_zoom8
Ok, now I'm confused. Are you saying you're bi? Serious question, too. [/QUOT
I just came out about 4 months ago, i was dating a girl for 3 years but i didnt count her as a girlfriend though. She was more like a really close freind. But since i came out i told her and then she wont talk to me anymore and than she moved to north Fl.

Originally posted by eclps0
[BBut since i came out i told her and then she wont talk to me anymore and than she moved to north Fl. [/B]

Possible she thinks she's the reason that you are "gay"?

It's commendable since you've come out. How do most of your friends take it?

I'm still waiting for my brother to admit he's gay.

He hasn't had a girlfriend for over...6 years now, he was in a fraternity, while his frat brothers told of their stories, my brother didn't have anything to say for himself. Come to think of it, his frat brothers didn't have anything to say for my brother either....very fashionably inclined, and he's a very good dancer.

Hope I take it right when he comes out.

Originally posted by -=Zeqs=-
Possible she thinks she's the reason that you are "gay"?



I was gonna say that

Originally posted by eclps0
I just came out about 4 months ago, i was dating a girl for 3 years but i didnt count her as a girlfriend though. She was more like a really close freind. But since i came out i told her and then she wont talk to me anymore and than she moved to north Fl.

Give her some time and some space... she'll probably come around eventually. I was in the same situation a few years ago after I came out. We didn't speak for a year and a half, then we bumped into each other in a bookstore, talked the whole thing through, and everything was OK.

Sounds to me like eclps0's ex-girlfriend would totally agree with the title of this thread.

I'm confused maybe. She moved to north Florida and eclps0 moved to south Florida - what? At about the same time? How exactly did that happen? I remember helping him decide on what to do about them thugs that were after him in NJ. So, you came out of the closet & went to college in south Florida & moved in just recently with your brother & girlfriend down there too. Some guy down there - what? That you just met? - dumps on you after going to Disneyworld with him... eclps0, your life is I think the most complicated that I know! And you've contemplated suicide? What was that thread about? You make my head spin.

Merry Christmas.

Originally posted by mikeb
I was gonna say that

Originally posted by Racer X-8
Sounds to me like eclps0's ex-girlfriend would totally agree with the title of this thread.

I'm confused maybe. She moved to north Florida and eclps0 moved to south Florida - what? At about the same time? How exactly did that happen? I remember helping him decide on what to do about them thugs that were after him in NJ. So, you came out of the closet & went to college in south Florida & moved in just recently with your brother & girlfriend down there too. Some guy down there - what? That you just met? - dumps on you after going to Disneyworld with him... eclps0, your life is I think the most complicated that I know! And you've contemplated suicide? What was that thread about? You make my head spin.

Merry Christmas.

OK i will start with Keri. Keri moved to south fl a month before me. When I moved down there I told her I was gay 2 months later she just left without saying a word. I had problems with the Thugs when I lived in NJ about 3-4 months ago. I came out of the closet after my first week living in Fl to my parents and my x, I first came out of the closet in Aug of 2003 to my brother sister, and all of my friends.( they are fine with it, now they always talk to me about there guy problems) Now with Marco i was seeing him for a month and then i asked what we were and he said we are seeing each other, than a day later I find out he is talking to somebody else. Then he tells me its OK to see other people. Also mark my words I have never complicated suicide I lost my 16 year old cousin to suicide. When I posted that music video it reminded me of him. IM not really complicated (I think if you want to know me ask IM very open about my experience in life)




Now for the good news I have been friends with Orion for 4 months. I had feelings for him for as long as I have known him. well I found out he had the same feelings as I do. I finally grew the balls to tell him and then he told me about his feelings. So I have been very happy lately. And we just started dating:D . Also he wants see his sister that lives in NJ so he is coming to NJ so I can see him on the New Year's Eve. The really good thing is we have so much in common I. Bellevue in honor and loyalty, and I respect everyone else, and so does he. we have the same morals and values so I think this relationships will last for a long time. It has only been 6 days that