Supposedly attaching this device to your fuel line creates a better burn of your fuel, offering lower emissions, better mileage, and increased performance. I was wondering if there was anyone out there has used this or anything like it.

http://www.avnzk.org/default.asp

27% increase... yeah right. You'd think if this was possible, ALL cars came with it from the factory.

By the way, saying "up to 27%" also includes the final result of savings which will be exactly - 0% :D

This thread will be closed or moved anyway :D

I got some swamp land in florida if you wana buy it.

Do NOT buy that....I've never seen that, but It's horse sh*t...Save your money

If a snap on item like this really worked as claimed, the auto manufacterers would have them on the production line about 30 mins after the results were verified. In short these type of items do not work.

Fuel Saver Pro's add says it all.

"Below are just some of the incredible results obtained by industry experts while testing the Fuel Saver."

The word incredible means "not credible", in other words not believeable. So take their add at face value and don't believe it.

Searchs for the testing labs named in the add turned up negitive. I seriously doubt they even exist. A search on Commercial News for the date range specified in the add also had a negitive result.

Ah, doncha just love snake oil salesmen?
When should I check my mileage and when can I expect results?
Make sure you check your mileage before you install the FUEL SAVER. Mileage is the sum of the total miles driven divided by the amount of fuel used. We suggest that you drive 1500 miles of normal driving and then make your before and after comparisons.
Why 1500 miles?
This allows the FUEL SAVER to do it's job of removing the Carbon & Varnish deposits. Remember it took thousands of miles to build up these deposits in your engine.
How much improvement can I expect?
This depends on the size and type of the engine, mode of driving whether city or highway, and weather conditions. Fuel savings of up to 27% have been reported. In addition, Increased performance and lower operating temperature of the vehicle will be noted. I guess the Barnum Principal keeps them in business.

Amazing how quick some of you are to whip out the blow torch. I'm in the same boat as you guys though, extrememly sceptical. Why do you think I made the post in the first place. Funny thing though was that no one actually answered my question. The question was if someone had used this or a similar product. Everyone just jumped on it and assumed it wouldn't work. The funny thing is I don't expect it to work, but am almost willing to try it just because. They do have a 90 day return policy. Wouldn't it be too funny if this was as easy a fix as it appears.

There's no getting around the laws of science. People here with engineering and mechanical backgrounds know that the claims are BS, because they are physically (chemically, etc.) impossible.

I don't have to jump off a cliff to know that I can't fly. I don't have to try magic fuel enhancers, splitfire sparkplugs, nology plug wires, slik50 oil additives, to know that the claims are bogus or trickily worded to make them sound like they're great products while in fact they are just deceptive.

There's been hoax scams like this for centuries - the term 'snake oil' comes from travelling salesmen selling bogus miracle cure medicines called snake oil! This device is crap. Save your money (I bet if you read the fine print, there's restocking charges, or big shipping and handling charges, etc.)

Regards,
Gordon

You have Florida swamp land?

Whereabouts? We might be neighbors!........
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Originally posted by Gord96BRG
(I bet if you read the fine print, there's restocking charges, or big shipping and handling charges, etc.)Yep, there's an $18 restocking fee, and naturally the $6.95 shipping/handling fee is non-refundable. So even when you discover that it's complete crap, you're still out $24.95 plus whatever it costs you to return it.

BTW, for another good example of pseudo-science, check out this description (http://www.fuelmiser.com/magneto%20hydrodynamic.htm#Physics) from the folks that bring you the "FUELMiser", which claims to be unique and patented, yet appears to do exactly the same thing as the "Fuel Saver Pro." Hope the "Fuel Saver Pro" folks are paying royalties!

A little more research turned up this page (http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/autos/gasave.htm) on the FTC's site. It lists many "gas saving" devices that have been tested by the EPA, and indicates which showed any benefit. Although the Fuel Saver Pro is not explicitly listed, guess what, none of the fuel line devices returned any improvement at all.

Dude, that's a little harsh.

Originally posted by eccles
Ah, doncha just love snake oil salesmen?
I guess the Barnum Principal keeps them in business.

"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."

Poison123. You're right. I should return my car. Thanks for helping out man. I was just too stupid to see that was the answer the whole time.

At least one person came up with some tangible evidence that proved it was pretty much a crock. While the rest of you sat by your own lack of information and threw flames. Its a mob mentality, and unfortunarely some of you have nothing better to do with your days then recycle what other people said. Thank god for the QUOTE feature.

Meanwhile, in what will probably be a fruitless effort, I am going to try and get information from both Ford Motor Company (who supposedly was at least somewhat involved in testing) and mfg of the product themselves to see if they have any actual information to support their claims.

In the meantime I guess I will just have to hope I can figure out how to operate my car. Which one is the gas pedal?

P.S. You meant principle not principal.

you guys are beating a dead dog

Originally posted by MrWigggles
"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people." Actually, I was thinking of the famous line generally attributed to P.T. Barnum:
"There's a sucker born every minute."
(Though this site (http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html) suggests that that attribution is inaccurate.)

(And yes, I meant principle. :) )

Originally posted by NineT4
At least one person came up with some tangible evidence that proved it was pretty much a crock. While the rest of you sat by your own lack of information and threw flames.

Lack of information? Dude, I spent 4 years getting a mechanical engineering degree. 8 hours a day, for 4 years, learning the science behind stuff like this. I'm not going to do an engineering analysis for you to prove this crap device is a scam. If you don't have the knowledge to figure this out yourself, then either spend 4 years in university yourself or trust someone who isn't trying to separate you from your hard-earned money (ie me and the others on this forum). You asked, we answered. Sorry if you don't like the answer. Go ahead, blow your dough, I don't really care!

Regards,
Gordon

Whatever, doesn't matter. All I was saying was that you didn't provide any reason why I should listen to what you had to say versus what they had to say. If you have the knowledge and understanding due to studying for a mechanical engineering degree, hats off to you. I honestly don't have the mechanical background which is why I made this post. Its not that I don't like your answers, its the way they are delivered. Sure, great some of you have mechanical degrees and I don't. If in your mind that makes me stupid. Well, you have a lot of growing up to do.

Eccles found the FTC tests stating that these types of devices were shit. Well, thanks eccles you actually delivered. While the rest of you, and yes Gord96BRG this includes you, decided to act holier than thou with your "I know this doesn't work, because I have big balls" type statements. Well, I may not know engines or mechanical engineering, and that may make me naive and vulnerable to shit products like this, that is exactly why I came here to ask if anyone had information. I know what I do and don't know, and fortunately am not too proud to ask for help. Which is surprising considering the answers I get from you assholes.

NineT4 you really are a friggin idiot. A Ten year old could have figured out this was a scam.

What is wrong with you people. I honestly believe that you have nothing better to do than shoot other people down. Obviously I thought there was something wrong with it, and that is why I posted the question here in the first place. If I thought it was legit, I would have just bought the damn thing and then told all of you how good it worked. I'll tell you what though, you people sure know how to make someone feel welcome.

You didn't ask why the device wouldn't work. In fact, when told that it was useless, you got all pissy and defensive and posted:

Originally posted by NineT4
Funny thing though was that no one actually answered my question. The question was if someone had used this or a similar product. Everyone just jumped on it and assumed it wouldn't work.

You complained that you didn't want opinions, you only wanted to hear if someone had actually tried it. Thus my response "I don't have to jump off a cliff to know that I can't fly". We're not assuming it doesn't work, we know it doesn't work, without having to try it. You challenged that, you should expect to get a hard time in return.

Sorry - if you can't take a bit of ribbing without getting so defensive, then you're not making yourself very welcome-able. But hey!, welcome anyways!

Regards,
Gordon:)

Ahem.... on a related note. Top Fuel (a respected tuner in Japan) has created the Power Neo. Looks the similar. It's a bunch of magnets. According to an article in Super Street they HAVE dynoed it and it provided a consitent 6hp boost on an RSX-S.
http://takakaira.com/asp/template.asp?cat=2&id=889&prodID=EFfBcCc%5E%60%3Fa%5Dd%40%5F

I especially loved this, in the Q&A section.

"Can the FUEL SAVER give an extra boost?
Yes, customers world wide have reported higher performance on lower octane fuel. Gives an extra 10% more horsepower."

*Laughs* They're not making a false statement.... using lower octane fuel does give one a performance boost.

~John

Originally posted by savedsol
According to an article in Super Street they HAVE dynoed it and it provided a consitent 6hp boost on an RSX-S.Quite apart from the major manufacturers, if any of these things actually worked, you can bet your ass that they'd already be in use by Formula 1 teams and the like. Those folks spend megabucks every year in engine development, and if they could get a 10% gain by slapping a couple of magnets on the fuel lines, they'd have them already and be spending the money on magnet research!

While it's nice to be able to find a government report, Occam's Razor is a pretty good tool, too. :)

Go get this thing it works awesome!
I got this and the Tornado (TM) Air system and my ride blazes.

Is that what you really want to hear?

Eccles, man... you got it!

My 'Occams Razor' only cost three payments of $29.95, and it's saved me about 28% of my gas bill! Fits in the air filter and actually slices AND DICES the incoming air!:eek: :eek: :eek:
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Dude, I spent 4 years getting a mechanical engineering degree. 8 hours a day, for 4 years, learning the science behind stuff like this. I'm not going to do an engineering analysis for you to prove this crap device is a scam.

The curriculum for mechanical engineering makes you an expert in electromagnetics, eh? rofl.

Nevertheless, it's highly unlikely this works. First tipoff is the explanation. It looks like someone just threw together some buzzwords in random fashion, without presenting any logical sort of explanation--not an in depth explanation, not a layman's explanation, not a chart--nothing but a couple of nonsense sentences.

I seem to remember reading something about the truth of these type things (it's basically just a simple magnet, or something to put a static charge into the fuel). What it does--in theory--is create a finer mist of fuel, promoting more complete combustion. In theory. Fuel droplets with a negative static charge will repel each other, so they reason.

Technically it can be made to work but only in extremely specific conditions--it only works on a select few types of cars, with carburetors, in the winter, upon startup, with high humidity, on a car that had fuel lines half-clogged with metallic trash to begin with (or something like that, I don't recall the real conditions). In other words, the test results are taken in a situation you won't even face in real life.

I just want to say I'm enjoying this thread.

Let's pick actors appropriate for the different participants.

I think Doctorr is being played by John Wayne and NineT4 has to be the bloke that played Rik in the Young Ones!

Any takers?

Originally posted by NineT4
Amazing how quick some of you are to whip out the blow torch. I'm in the same boat as you guys though, extrememly sceptical. Why do you think I made the post in the first place. Funny thing though was that no one actually answered my question. The question was if someone had used this or a similar product. Everyone just jumped on it and assumed it wouldn't work. The funny thing is I don't expect it to work, but am almost willing to try it just because. They do have a 90 day return policy. Wouldn't it be too funny if this was as easy a fix as it appears.

I tried one of this fuel saver in a VW Golf and I didn't notice anything....

If you have a 90 day return policy, try it...

that was nice.

I have no idea about these kind of kits... Are they for real or just BS?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33597&item=2449798330

Pure unadultered BS I'm afraid.

Figured as much with the whole, NO REFUNDS thing... You would think if you could get 20HP, and it was for real it would be gauranteed or your money back...

I tried it.......It does not work at all......dyno tested....a waste of $30 or $40 dollars.....I knew it was a scam but I had to try....
Complain to E-bay and give this scam artist bad feed-back.
We have full access to a dyno.....the Borla exhaust does really work however. 11 HP gain

Doug do you have an AT or 6 Speed?

If that chick in the ad came with it, I'd buy:) .

sure are a LOT of ppl claiming it does work if you read his feedback...still, too good to be true...

some say it's just a resistor that plugs in to your IAT sensor and not a chip at all...what would this do?

Originally posted by flyboyindy
Doug do you have an AT or 6 Speed?


6 speed!!!!!

If its too good to be true, than it usually is (especially on Ebay).

I believe all this thing does is fool the iat.I think relocating will yield same results.I will say it will not work well with the 8 cause it runs big rich now,timing could advance a little which might help.Anyone else want to give the long version im hittin the sack.

Originally posted by WTF no turbo
I believe all this thing does is fool the iat.I think relocating will yield same results.I will say it will not work well with the 8 cause it runs big rich now,timing could advance a little which might help.Anyone else want to give the long version im hittin the sack.

yea if anyone can explain what a resistor will do when connected to the IAT? if sounds like something we test out for less than $10 worth of parts from Radio Shack

Hey Doug, you dyno'd the borla? Any chance you can get us the stats sheet? :D

Heh...did anyone else notice his posted BASELINE "dyno" numbers? Pretty damn good for a stock car, no? :D

jds

Yeah, great stock torque figures too. hohoho!

I don't know what to think?!?! Is it good Comedy?!?!

Hey Canzoomer, worried this will take away from Stage1 sales? :D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33597&item=2450862206

Perhaps you have not already read previous posts, this is just a scam 'temperature trick'. A 5 cent resistor in a matchbox.

Figured as much, thanks Irish. It's hard getting breaking news out to this group, you know!?!? Always a couple steps behind, I guess. :)

Hey! Look HERE (http://www.mazdamaniac.com/ebayfake.htm) for 200 HP and only $250!!:p

That is a crack up. hahahhahaha
What the fuck was that on ebay. That made me fall off my seat. The picture alone. hahahah Those are the shittest cars I've ever seen. Why would you even add a mod to those pieces of shit. and the drawing. haha. I can't even believe the seller has such a high rating on ebay. Another hacker and scammer who knows how to sucker fuckers in.

Originally posted by USCEric
That is a crack up. hahahhahaha
What the fuck was that on ebay. That made me fall off my seat. The picture alone. hahahah Those are the shittest cars I've ever seen. Why would you even add a mod to those pieces of shit. and the drawing. haha. I can't even believe the seller has such a high rating on ebay. Another hacker and scammer who knows how to sucker fuckers in.

err...it's a fake ad...someone made that on photoshop...

Good shiet...there's a sucker born everyday.

Originally posted by BRx8
err...it's a fake ad...someone made that on photoshop...

No way!!
Who would do such a thing ?!?!:mad:

Do'h - Thanks guys for saving me. I was about to spend the 200, as it appeared such a fair-dinkum add.

Someone always spoils my fun.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Originally posted by Maniac
No way!!
Who would do such a thing ?!?!:mad:

my comment was directed to those that think this was an actual ad appearing on eBay...the ad itself is an obvious fake...ok?

If I would get a poster with the fake unit, I'd buy one - that girl is smokin'!!!

hahha praise"promised up to 20hp, gained more like 40hp. Thank you your product is awsome" !!!! oh my.

Originally posted by success07
Figured as much, thanks Irish. It's hard getting breaking news out to this group, you know!?!? Always a couple steps behind, I guess. :)

Oh yeah np :-) I'll be honest - my last car was an integra, there was some kind of resistor trick for $2 on ebay. I just bought it to see what the idea was. Indeed, it was a 5 cent resistor - now putting it in a black box makes it look more appealing :-)

Nearly purchased....

Funny!! if you buy that i have a stage 5 turbo/ supercharger combo ill sell you that will give you 1000 rwhp and wont void the warranty!!

I was on ebay checking out anything new on RX-8 when I ran into this profermance Mod advertisment. They claim +20 HP for a starting bid of $26.99.

Ebay------item=2451670590

I never heard of this company or this mod before. Any feed back will be much appreciated.

Mark

That's been here before. It's still snake oil.

It's bogus! look at their dyno charts, even the stock runs are way off, I think they were stating over 200 ft/lb of torque for stock figures.....Please!

Has anyone heard of this ECU mod that's only $26.99

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33597&item=2453694068

Is this possible that someone is actually selling such a cheap ECU mod or is there something I am missing here ? ?

Carguy,

This is a complete fake and I can prove it to you. Look at the Dyno sheet. First of all, his power band ends at 7000 RPM's. All of us who own a MT know the we can all REV to 9,200 RPM. This individual is a joke and should be reported to EBAY.

Thanks . . . that is an excellent point . . good thinking !!

While I'm not disputing this is a fake, that can't be a curve for RX-8. His baseline torque is 201. The graph doesn't say what car it is for. Anyway, there are enough warning signs all over the ad that this is just some old POS.

Edit: BTW, this seller has 413 auctions currently running on eBay. I checked a couple dozen and didn't see a single bid offered on any of them. Hmmm, so where did all his positive endorsements come from?

IMO never buy car parts off of ebay

This probably right up there with the "electric supercharger", huh?

Thats right DaveT.......

I think thoughs electric superchargers are funny. I actually had to talk my neighbor out of buying one because he wanted to get one instead of stillen ecu for his 300zx because it was so much cheaper.

Thanks guys, I was almost sucked into this one because of the "incredible low price"

DONT BE GULLABLE!

nothings free nor cheap.

Does anybody know anything about this module? It is supposed to give you 13-22 HP.

Very interested to hear everybody's takes on this one.....



Leary....

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?threadid=18868&highlight=Zero+Gravity

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33597&item=2459808033

i saw this some time ago, however the bid ran out.
Its back now, and i'm really wondering about this product.

Could it be true??

Will it mess up my auto 8?
If it seems a good buy, i'll buy it!

Looks like a huge pile of bull. At best, it does nothing, at worst it damages your car. Oh, and:
This Module will work on all models of the vehicle listed 1988-2004!!
RX-8's from '88, eh? I'd throw it in the bin if I was given it free. Don't buy a 25'000 $ car and then skimp on powerups, if you're really in the market for them.

This subject has already had a thread. It is useless! Why do I know this? Before I knew anything, I bought a similar one for my RX7 and all I got was a resistor! It did NOTHING!!! Do not buy it. If it really did that then the price would be much higher and it would get much praise from here!

Hmm. Ok well heres my deal:
Off the line is utter shit. I have an auto and i'm loving every moment of driving my brillant black baby.

However i need more power!

Please suggest something that you would recommend.

Price range: 0-2g most likely.

THanks!

trade it in on the hi power 6mt. cheapest way to add 30hp.

What would be the trade in value?

no way would be able to do a straight trade eh?

pls give some more info

Its a resistor that you use to pull down on the Mass Airflow Sensor to 'trick' the ECU that its receiving colder air than it really is.

If you want to try this yourself, goto Radio Shack and buy a $.10 resistor and do it yourself for next to free.

Originally posted by amartin
Its a resistor that you use to pull down on the Mass Airflow Sensor to 'trick' the ECU that its receiving colder air than it really is.

If you want to try this yourself, goto Radio Shack and buy a $.10 resistor and do it yourself for next to free.

Yup, that's all it does. Please note, though - everyone complains that the RX-8 runs too rich already, right? Canzoomer's mod makes 20 hp by leaning the mixture at high rpm. This resistor trick is supposed to fool the ECU into adding more fuel, making the engine run richer. Oh good, just what an RX-8 needs - an even richer too rich mixture! All it would do is lose more hp, guaranteed.

Regards,
Gordon

Originally posted by Gord96BRG
Yup, that's all it does. Please note, though - everyone complains that the RX-8 runs too rich already, right? Canzoomer's mod makes 20 hp by leaning the mixture at high rpm. This resistor trick is supposed to fool the ECU into adding more fuel, making the engine run richer. Oh good, just what an RX-8 needs - an even richer too rich mixture! All it would do is lose more hp, guaranteed.

Regards,
Gordon

so couldn't we just put the resistor in backwards, so it would lean it out?

Not again! It is bogus! I e-mailed the guy and informed him about the discrepancy concerning the dyno sheet and the RX8. Needless to say he never wrote back. He just posted more garbage in defense of his product due to everyone catching on to his scam. By the way I heard he has a lot of different things for sale on e-bay that was claimed to be JUNK!do youself a service, stay away!

I haven't done this yet...but if it's the same guy i think it is...check his feedback..there are sooo many pi$$ed off reponses regarding the load of BS this is...if it was this simple, don't you think everyone here would have one?

Hats off to the moderator who put this all together. Hopefully we'll quell some of the multiple questions/threads associated with these types of products.

--Landon

Resistors work either directions..your thinking cap's or diodes... putting a resists in 'backwards' would do nothing.

-- Aaron
p.s. Its curious.. to wonder what if the map sensor thought it was REALLY hot out... hmm..now you've got me wondering

why is this a sticky? LOL

Originally posted by zerobanger
why is this a sticky? LOL

y'know, I have no idea. Omicron?

Because every time I unsticky it, we get a half dozen posts asking if the "HP Booster kit on eBay" is any good. Sticking this seems to help to alleviate that somewhat.

Did you happen to see how many people are asking about it, Zero? I think this sticky is rather appropriate....

--Landon

Have anyboby some info or experience to share about this module ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33553&item=2463285444

Look at the dyno, specifically where you think 5252rpm would be. Who can tell me what's wrong with this picture?

Look at the picture of the building near the bottom. It looks like the "Intimidator II Productions Inc." was photoshopped onto some random picture. This is probably some guy that works out his basement with a few resistors and a solder gun.

Originally posted by winter
Look at the dyno, specifically where you think 5252rpm would be. Who can tell me what's wrong with this picture?

The dyno chart does not show both horsepower and torque. It only shows one and judging by the way it is shaped I'll assume torque. It also shows air fuel ratio.

It's a scam anyway you look at it though.

Originally posted by rotarygod
The dyno chart does not show both horsepower and torque. It only shows one and judging by the way it is shaped I'll assume torque.

Ah, you're right, I misread it. I also concur that it's a scam.

LOL! That's awesome!! Intimadator? Methinks that someone needs to spell check their scams before bothering to photoshop a company name onto an office building.

Bad photoshop, bad scam. But one of the funnier in recent memory. Intimadator....... :p

Also note that on the map it shows the powerband giving out at 6200 rpms??? WTF! for those of us with a M/T we are just about to get the aux ports opened up. The extra hp would be increased there. But I guess anyone can do a dyno run and rev it like my grandma. Sorry Grandma but you are no Mario Andretti :p .

To begin with...I use to have a 1992 mustang with every mod
imaginable (including a supercharger)and my gas mileage was
like that of the Rx8. I began looking at ways to improve it,and found several items that really worked including the magnetic fuel saver. Now you may think that all gadgets don't work as claimed
and you would be right.But there are a few that do.This does work. It's based on the principle of magnetism, and if any of you
out there have ever had an MRI (magnetic resounance imaging)
scan the principle is the same.The human body is made up of
hydrogen proton atoms(water molecules) that have a positive
and negative charge(north&south poles). When the body is placed in a mri scanner,these water molecules will line up positive or negative with the magnetic field. Adding a radio frequency pulse to certain tissue will give you an image of the body.
Cool Huh ? Well gasoline has similar magnetic properties and with all the different grades of gas out there...quality varies.
The magnetic fuel saver breaks up the clumps of hydrocarbons that bond together in your fuel tank over time,and provides a better fuel burn. If you ever notice when you visit you emission
center for testing.co2,hydocarbons,and nox are the byproducts. I
have tried this device and found it to be credible along with a number of other devices that I have tested.I'm looking at the Rx8 for my new car and found that by readig the website for your
concerns,I could get a feel for the problems you're having with this car.i also have a few answers to some of the problems that
are inherent in this automobile...but I'll keep this to myself for now.If you have'nt already guessed. I'm an MRI technologist and
my knowledge with this technology comes in handy sometime.
I hope to be talking to you guys and gals in the future when I
get my new Rx8...talk to ya later.

http://www.fut.es/~sje/mag_fuel.htm is one place to start without wasting money. I have some rare earth magnets laying around that are about 1T each so it would easy to strap them on adn see.

Originally posted by morflo50@aol.co
To begin with...I use to have a 1992 mustang with every mod
imaginable (including a supercharger)and my gas mileage was
like that of the Rx8. I began looking at ways to improve it,and found several items that really worked including the magnetic fuel saver. Now you may think that all gadgets don't work as claimed
and you would be right.But there are a few that do.This does work. It's based on the principle of magnetism, and if any of you
out there have ever had an MRI (magnetic resounance imaging)
scan the principle is the same.The human body is made up of
hydrogen proton atoms(water molecules) that have a positive
and negative charge(north&south poles). When the body is placed in a mri scanner,these water molecules will line up positive or negative with the magnetic field. Adding a radio frequency pulse to certain tissue will give you an image of the body.
Cool Huh ? Well gasoline has similar magnetic properties and with all the different grades of gas out there...quality varies.
The magnetic fuel saver breaks up the clumps of hydrocarbons that bond together in your fuel tank over time,and provides a better fuel burn. If you ever notice when you visit you emission
center for testing.co2,hydocarbons,and nox are the byproducts. I
have tried this device and found it to be credible along with a number of other devices that I have tested.I'm looking at the Rx8 for my new car and found that by readig the website for your
concerns,I could get a feel for the problems you're having with this car.i also have a few answers to some of the problems that
are inherent in this automobile...but I'll keep this to myself for now.If you have'nt already guessed. I'm an MRI technologist and
my knowledge with this technology comes in handy sometime.
I hope to be talking to you guys and gals in the future when I
get my new Rx8...talk to ya later.


WOW, you know that sounds just like the script from a show I watched on Discovery Channel yesterday morning called "Understanding Magnetism" it had really cool explanations with cg graphics and all when they talked about the MRI.

Did you see that show?

ebay performance module (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6763&item=2471637730)


what do you guys think???

bad idea.

I wouldn't put any part I bought of ebay for 25 in my car. Especially one that mucked around with the ECU. Maybe I am just overly cautious though.

bad idea.

oh and i found this one too...


performance mod (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33553&item=2471607270)

Absolutely, completely, totally crap.
If you think that will work for you, maybe you should try THIS (http://www.mazdamaniac.com/ebayfake)

Originally posted by KrustyKlown
I wouldn't put any part I bought of ebay for 25 in my car. Especially one that mucked around with the ECU. Maybe I am just overly cautious though.

I agree. Bad Idea

total ripoff, do a search.

Third thread down in THIS very forum, here (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17056). Search, and you shall find. ;)

we should just do away with that search button. don't you think? :D

what are you guys talking about...i have it installed in my car..its located under my tire smashed up...did i say i ran it over?

Anyone notice the dyno chart on the Intimidator one? It looks like the engine cuts off just over 6000 RPM? Hmm, last time I checked my 8 could rev a bit higher.

Originally posted by mamccubbin
Anyone notice the dyno chart on the Intimidator one? It looks like the engine cuts off just over 6000 RPM? Hmm, last time I checked my 8 could rev a bit higher.

not to mention it's also putting down more torque stock than they claim at the crank

anyone seen this? Thoughts?

Z1 Performance module (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2480077169&category=33597)

looks like a phoney baloney placebo capacitor

The dyno chart is obviously not from an 8. I'd guess it is a sensor defeat of some sort that eventually gets averaged out by the ECU.

And how did they tested it for so many years when the RX8 came out last year?!? Or if it works on other cars, it should work here too? Plain bluffing (I think)

money grab!

Do you think I can place this resistor inside my stage 1 unit to get double the pleasure. Perhaps we could replace the resistor RX-8 is recommending to disconnect with this Intimidator, and prevent loading our coil packs.

A $30 unit in a $30,000 car?
Yup,I'll RUN :D right out and get me one!

http://www.turbonator.com/index.html?id=adWordsMazda lol if u think that shit on ebay works then buy this

I've been thinking of marketing a "Suicide Rear Door Kit" for the RX-8. Do you think I could find some suckers, er, I mean buyers? :D

This kit is used to reduce wind resistance thereby making your car have less drag. for $20 to $30 its a bargain. Check it out!

http://www.gillroys.com/products/show_dept_prods.cfm?dept_id=2456

Haha. This is the first time I actually read this thread (I'm really that bored). The link doesn't work, and it was probably a load of BS anyway (I didn't bother reading all the posts). Is this a sticky because we don't want people writing a million threads regarding such magic power adders?