My first run I ran 93 octane from a Mobil gas station. I started with 27psi of tire pressure and had a horrible 60 foot times. I still pulled a 14.32 @ 95 mph. I have a video showing all the tire spin. The weather was extremely kool and the car was feeling awesome. My second run I lowered the tire pressure to 20 psi and did a blazing burnout. I staged launched and SADLY granaded, destroyed, chewed up my transmission first gear. I'm lucky I was able to drive home using my second gear to start driving. I broke it worst then last time. This time I'll be fixing the tranny myself and making some homemade braces. My last 14.5 run I had a 2.0 60 foot times, on this first run I had 2.4 I.m not going to predict what the car would have ran today but I would say 14.20 was in the bag. I only got one run. I have the time slip and a video. This was done in Atco raceway NJ in atco NJ today sunday the 21 of december. and yes still bone stock and used 93 octane.

car # 223
R/T .365
60 .2.409
330 .6.403
1/8 .9.073
MPH .75.42
990 .12.388
1/4 .14.324
MPH .95.77

Good stuff Judge Ito! First gear was sacrificed well.

I'm going to unsticky the other post, and sticky this one ;)

Kids, let's play nice with each other when posting, too! :D

EDIT: Old Judge Ito thread is here (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13059)

How about that video?

I don't have the slidest Idea how to install the video to my pc. During the week I'll call my Computer expert and have him walk me step by step in loading the video to my pc and linking it here.
I haven't found the Rx8 true potential(only because this is my second gearbox I have shattered) but I know it has a better ET bone stock. But at what price? Im not upset. I drive the car really hard and this was expected.

Was there wheel hop? If there wasn't, that would be hard, unless you are in the water beforehand and not burning out.

Wheel hop ownz joo in the rx8 when launching.

You did mention bone stock, so stock rubber is the bridgestone 040's, and they are actually a pretty lame tire for any sort of serious hookup.

Yes using the original tires. All I could tell you is that I do aggressive burnouts.(not your average driver) When I had my first run I was ok with the 2.4 60 ft times because I was trying to dial in my 60 ft times one run at a time. On my second run after my long and hard burnout I staged the car,rev the engine,let the clutch go and instant chaos. No wheel hop no movement. First gear destroyed. I'll say the Rx8 has a better ET in it bone stock. This is my second gearbox I have shattered, I'm not upset, I drive the car Xtremely hard......

Agreed, I've had a lot of failures in other new cars, and they have been down for weeks while waiting for parts. The wait is the worst part!!!! Almost as bad as the labor that goes into them!

Lucky I have a shop I could fix it right away. I would say I'm a little upset only because I was left with a bad taste in my mouth. I saw better times in the car today and it wasn't possible do to my tranny failure.

Originally posted by Judge Ito
Lucky I have a shop I could fix it right away. I would say I'm a little upset only because I was left with a bad taste in my mouth. I saw better times in the car today and it wasn't possible do to my tranny failure.

I agree with you! You only cut a 2.4 on the one run and hit that time!

Imagine if you were on good tires and cut a 1.9 60' ;) ;)

I don't think that too many people have any drag strip experience on this board. I have substantial, but I hate to run the street cars on the 1/4.

This is off topic, but here's one of my best in a street car on street tires:

http://www.swankmonkey.com/images/13.6.jpg

Edit: but IKEwrx would have loved to see that run, ie, NOT an rx8, but a wrx that I had and gladly got rid of!

nice 1.8 60 ft times on street tires it doesn't get any better then that. Talking about my off 2.4 60 ft times today I would aggree. The second to last time I was at the track after 3 runs I dialed in my 60 ft times to 1.9 I was hoping for the same today. I just feel I would have to upgrade or modify the car with braces and I still don't want to do that. But I keep breaking trannys. I going to have to think things hard.

Ito, ask vosko for some video assistance :). I've been to Atco many times (used to live in Philly), always a good time.

Originally posted by Digisan
Ito, ask vosko for some video assistance :). I've been to Atco many times (used to live in Philly), always a good time. Thats my pc expert buddy. Ill ask him to help me load this video.

Originally posted by Digisan
Ito, ask vosko for some video assistance :). I've been to Atco many times (used to live in Philly), always a good time. Yeah, tell vosko I want to see a rematch between him and that skinny dude, I think I know what I'm talking about. Vosko only out weighed him by 75lbs.. what took him so long! ;)

Very nice Ito, grats on the runs!

So what's your take on the tranny, do you think it's a possible weak link in the car or just bad luck combined with overly aggresive driving? I'm guessing there is no aftermarket gearset available... so what now, just install a factory set and drive like a sane person or just keep replacing factory gears?

I think it's cause ito is one big mofugga! Have any of you seen him? He's like a bear man!

:D

Yeah, I'm wondering about 1st gear too... sounds strange to have so many failures, even though you beat on it.

Dude, we should open a collective fund for Ito...!!

Originally posted by IkeWRX
Very nice Ito, grats on the runs!

So what's your take on the tranny, do you think it's a possible weak link in the car or just bad luck combined with overly aggresive driving? I'm guessing there is no aftermarket gearset available... so what now, just install a factory set and drive like a sane person or just keep replacing factory gears? After fixing the tranny this time I'm going to relax over the winter. In the spring time I'm going to have to think it over. The car needs some type of tranny brace with rubber mounts to help reduce the shock load!

Originally posted by racerdave
Yeah, I'm wondering about 1st gear too... sounds strange to have so many failures, even though you beat on it. It wouldn't seem that strange to you if you consider that the car is 3,250lbs and I launch with no mercy. combination of a heavy car and a heavy foot = broken parts. The bad point is If I launch hard I coud break something but If the car does not break and I get my 1.9 60 foot times like my previous time I would land a low 14 second run. Drag Racing is all about a perfect launch.

Originally posted by Judge Ito
It wouldn't seem that strange to you if you consider that the car is 3,250lbs and I launch with no mercy. combination of a heavy car and a heavy foot = broken parts.

3250 ??:eek:

Is that with you in the car and a full tank of gas or what?

And breaking TWO transmissions! wow, and people complain of the low torque hahaha! :D

I wonder what's going to happen when people start modding these cars :(

Yeah, that "low torque" is what has me wondering.

Mustangs/Vipers and Vettes don't start shedding Tremec parts once they start beating on them. And they've got like 4x the torque.

They don't have to do 8k rpm clutch drops either.

What O.R.A. said ^^^^^^

Yeah, but most get 90% available tq. from low rpm's....

And they have 500 ft/lbs.

Doesn't that make just a little difference, RPM's or not?

The higher RPM clutch drops are harder on the clutch for sure, but 1st gear should be burly enough to handle it -- especially 162 ft/lbs.

Originally posted by neit_jnf
3250 ??:eek:

Is that with you in the car and a full tank of gas or what?

And breaking TWO transmissions! wow, and people complain of the low torque hahaha! :D

I wonder what's going to happen when people start modding these cars :( Yes 3250lbs with me in the car. I tip the scales at 250lbs.

I personally know of one person with a 3 rotor in his Rx8. He is using the factory transmission to get the car up and running. I talked to him today and told him about my second tranny breaking with factory horsepower and no mods. He will have to upgrade his tranny with the 3 rotor turbo he has in the car. Rx8 is a fun car to drive but It does not have a bullet proof drivetrain like other cars that we have seen and tested. FD for example.

Originally posted by racerdave
And they have 500 ft/lbs.

Doesn't that make just a little difference, RPM's or not?

The higher RPM clutch drops are harder on the clutch for sure, but 1st gear should be burly enough to handle it -- especially 162 ft/lbs. Your average rule does not apply to the rotary engine. I have seen a 13B destroy a G-Force transmission that is used most commonly with NHRA Pro Stock racers. The pro stock racers are making well over 850rwhp and could race a complete event without any damage on a full racing transmission. In the other hand a high reving nitrous 13B engine making 430rwhp will crunch and break the same tranny a pro stock driver uses with no problem. G-force highly recommends the extra option when you buy a tranny from them. That is the TORSION BAR to absorb the high rpm impact to the tranny that a rotary gives.
You talk about 162 ft/lbs of torque? I dynoed less then that and I have to trannys broken already.

That is mighty impressive ITO, next time you guys go to the strip mind taking me i've always wanted to go just never had anyone with the experience to teach me to do it properly. Anyone can drop a clutch at 8k not many can do it perfectly. I also wanna see the difference canzoomers mod makes in my car as a before and after + Borla.

Hey looks like we all got a well desevered Christmas present, slience of the trolls.

P.S. Im in Lawrenceville NJ near Trenton, just incase you don't remember or look below my avatar.

Originally posted by PoLaK
That is mighty impressive ITO, next time you guys go to the strip mind taking me i've always wanted to go just never had anyone with the experience to teach me to do it properly. Anyone can drop a clutch at 8k not many can do it perfectly. I also wanna see the difference canzoomers mod makes in my car as a before and after + Borla.

Hey looks like we all got a well desevered Christmas present, slience of the trolls.

P.S. Im in Lawrenceville NJ near Trenton, just incase you don't remember or look below my avatar. If you haven't raced by the spring time, I'll let you know next time I go to the drag strip. I'm not racing the car until March. In the meantime I'll be looking to see what my options are to re-inforce the cars drivetrain.

Originally posted by Judge Ito
If you haven't raced by the spring time, I'll let you know next time I go to the drag strip. I'm not racing the car until March. In the meantime I'll be looking to see what my options are to re-inforce the cars drivetrain.

Other than clutch and flywheel aren't drivetrain parts some of the last aftermarket parts to be made available?

To me, if first gear fails, then it's a design problem, isn't it?

For example, 3rd gear in CR80 (Honda MX) transmissions are notoriously weak in shifter kart applications. So, aftermarket third gears were made, problem solved.

So maybe more people should do 8K launches to force Mazda to strentghen them? ;)

PS -- It *is* good to hear that the carbon-fibre driveshaft is holding up fine for drag use. :)

Judge Ito -

You see to be DA MAN when it comes to drag racing the RX-8. Have you been following this whole thing with "Limp mode" being triggered on the car if one spins the back tires for more than about 3 seconds? If not, I think you might find it very interesting, as it could (potentially) have a real affect on your times.

Check out these threads:
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16738
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16760

I thought it might be worth mentioning this to you in case you were interested in slaving the front and rear ABS sensors together to see if it improves your times.

Originally posted by Omicron
Judge Ito -

You see to be DA MAN when it comes to drag racing the RX-8. Have you been following this whole thing with "Limp mode" being triggered on the car if one spins the back tires for more than about 3 seconds? If not, I think you might find it very interesting, as it could (potentially) have a real affect on your times.

Check out these threads:
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16738
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16760

I thought it might be worth mentioning this to you in case you were interested in slaving the front and rear ABS sensors together to see if it improves your times. I read the thread, But I could tell you that I have not experienced any power loss do to the DSC or ABS kicking in. I make sure my DSC is totally off and follow up with my long burnout and wicked launches. If my car was loosing power because the DSC I would have not landed my 14 second runs and 1.9 60 ft times.

Originally posted by Judge Ito
I read the thread, But I could tell you that I have not experienced any power loss do to the DSC or ABS kicking in. I make sure my DSC is totally off and follow up with my long burnout and wicked launches. If my car was loosing power because the DSC I would have not landed my 14 second runs and 1.9 60 ft times.

Could have to do with if the front wheels are moving very much at all. Dyno, front wheel is not moving.

Snow, front wheel is probably not moving very much.

Burnouts, front wheel is most likely moving faster than in snow.

Just my 2 cents.

Originally posted by syntrix
Could have to do with if the front wheels are moving very much at all. Dyno, front wheel is not moving.

Snow, front wheel is probably not moving very much.

Burnouts, front wheel is most likely moving faster than in snow.

Just my 2 cents. You lost me there a minute. Explaine again...

Front wheel speed in comparision to spinning rear wheels.

Originally posted by syntrix
Front wheel speed in comparision to spinning rear wheels. Not sure if there is a problem if the DSC is turned fully off. I see your point but I'm not sure if the front wheels spinning less then the back has an effect of the DSC not giving any problem.

Let me rephrase that.

Variable front wheel motion.

Constant spinning of the rears.


As speed of the fronts increases, maybe limp is less likely.

When you are in snow and the fronts are not moving at all, maybe limp is more likely.

It's all just a guess anyway.

Good thought Syntrix, that might just explain the Judge's EXCELLENT times.

Judge, I see your point too, and you're probably right. But please my reply to you in this thread: http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16760&perpage=15&pagenumber=5

maybe the 3rd tranny you will finally leave it break-in fully before beating the bejesus out of it

.... nice times though :cool:

Will synthetic tranny oil make it stronger?

Originally posted by pr0ber
maybe the 3rd tranny you will finally leave it break-in fully before beating the bejesus out of it

.... nice times though :cool: There is no way around me not breaking the tranny. I broke the 2nd tranny after I drove the car for 2000 miles after I got the new one in. Since I still want to improve in the cars ET I'll be working on a bullet proof gearbox. For who ever is intrested in my new gearbox Ill write a thread as I start the building stages.

Right on. I could use a reinforced drivetrain. I am shooting for 350 at the wheels by next december, and could use the power.

Originally posted by neit_jnf
Will synthetic tranny oil make it stronger?

It really will only reduce wear, but it won't prevent something like what happened to Ito from happening.

Ike

There is a cross brace that runs front to back with the tranny.

Judge's weak link is the gears... maybe the tranny needs to flex a bit more?

Or maybe it's flexing too much!

Too bad there's no cheap tests for this one!

Any Luck with Riping that video? ...... If Not drive down here and ill rip that thing for you.

Ill be calling my friend today and asking him to give me a hand.

Can't wait to see the video Judge, and those stock times are like a breath of fresh air ...Hey Ike, I'm very impressed with your "positive" tone displayed here....Happy New Year!

where is the timeslip and or video of the 14.3 run?

EDIT: Rather see a video. Joe $hit the ragman can post a timeslip of anything. Not being an a$$. Just MHO

Originally posted by Pure Tremble
where is the timeslip and or video of the 14.3 run?

EDIT: Rather see a video. Joe $hit the ragman can post a timeslip of anything. Not being an a$$. Just MHO I have the video and realized its not worth the effort to have it link here. The run was recorded on a digital camera and has no sound and it's not of good quality. When viewed from the digital camera it looked good in my opinion. but after I had it loaded to my pc, it's of very poor quality. I have all my time slips. 14.6 @93 mph 14.5 @94mph and 14.3 @ 95.77 mph I could post it with no problem. Ill have to scann it and ill post it.

Nice times Ito, have you started making that bullet proof drive train you mentioned a few posts back...i'm interested to know of your progress in that.

opps i meant gearbox sorry

where's the time slip, i dont believe you

Originally posted by hasg
where's the time slip, i dont believe you I like people like you. Quick to believe the opposite. No problem when I ran the first 14.5 I had a couple of people screaming wheres the time slip????? I had my friend scann it and post it, then complete silence. I run a super busy small business and sometimes I don't have time to go out of my way to scann and post. Sure enough last time I had my friend that lives 25 minutes out of my shop to come pic up the slip and post it here. Believe you me, I have the time slip and is treasured like a piece of gold. I'll make a big effort to post the slip..

********Moderator Edit***********

Originally posted by 350z Driver
LOL.. Put a sticky on the first person to possibly do a good run in an rx8 and it involves killing a tranny. Thats says lots about the cars ability if you have to shatter the gearbox to get a decent run.

And your comment in revolutionary because....??
Ohh, right! you needed to say some little crap about the car I drive...I forgot! you are an ah.

Stop.

RX8-TX is calling peoples names again! Ban him! :p

Originally posted by IkeWRX
RX8-TX is calling peoples names again! Ban him! :p

&^%head! :D

Originally posted by RX8-TX
&^%head! :D


YOU EDITED IT!!!

I SAW IT!
I SAW IT!

MOMMYYYYYY!!!

:D

Originally posted by neit_jnf
YOU EDITED IT!!!

I SAW IT!
I SAW IT!

MOMMYYYYYY!!!

:D
Nahhhhhh!...me? nahhhhhh!

Calm it down kids! Remember the topic subject?

Originally posted by syntrix
Calm it down kids! Remember the topic subject?

I was just kidding with Ike: he knows! he doesn't let me in the boat! (sorry, now I went off-topic completely..)

And if I may add: it would be nice to see some slips...just as an added bonus.

And perhaps some punch for the boat to go along with the slips... <looks over at RX8-TX>

Originally posted by IkeWRX
And perhaps some punch for the boat to go along with the slips... <looks over at RX8-TX>

slips as s in: time slips.

nice run

Judge ITO,

I read this entire thread and did not see what RPM you launched at. What RPM should I launch? I launch my 94 Rx-7 at 3000 to 3500 or so.

I was thinking 5,000? My technique in my rx-7 is to hold it at 3000 or 3500 then feather the clutch 1/2 way and then drop it.

any suggestions? If it doesn't rain I'll go saturday.

Zero, do you have the Canzoomer mod?

Originally posted by racerdave
Zero, do you have the Canzoomer mod?

not yet, my mechanic has a few of them and offered me to get it. I'm gonna wait a bit. I wanna get some track time with stock car and make some good comparisions with the mod.

comparos are what people will want.

cool.

I wonder if that's the same 350Z driver that's talking crap about our cars on the g35driver.com forum under other cars ( RX8 ). Saying things like we won't allow other car owners on the forum because were so embarrased at how slow our car is,due to Mazda detuning and what a junk car, ect. He must really hate the 8 or someone who has one. As for me I'm a car person and I love to look and research other cars and I also respect other cars and their owners like the 350, G35, WRX, EVO ect. I just really get peeved about ignorant people sometimes.

oops

Originally posted by JimW
I wonder if that's the same 350Z driver that's talking crap about our cars on the g35driver.com forum under other cars ( RX8 ). Saying things like we won't allow other car owners on the forum because were so embarrased at how slow our car is,due to Mazda detuning and what a junk car, ect. He must really hate the 8 or someone who has one. As for me I'm a car person and I love to look and research other cars and I also respect other cars and their owners like the 350, G35, WRX, EVO ect. I just really get peeved about ignorant people sometimes.

Jim, I wish all members were more like you. However some RX-8 owners bashes other cars pretty heavy (moreso in the past) and practically tried to run off anyone that didn't own an RX-8 or feel it was gods gift to cars. It certainly upset some non owners and enthusiasts that were just here to learn about a car they liked and gave them a sour taste when it came to the RX-8. I've had a bit of that sour taste in my mouth from time to time in the past, but I got over it easily, others tend to hold a grudge I suppose.


Ike

Originally posted by IkeWRX
I've had a bit of that sour taste in my mouth from time to time in the past,
Ike

I'M going to save this one for eternity IKE and use it against you once in awhile, just wanted to warn you:D ;) :p

Originally posted by zoom44
I'M going to save this one for eternity IKE and use it against you once in awhile, just wanted to warn you:D ;) :p


Eternity huh, that's a looong time :p

hey bro how u made it to run 14's the best i did was 15.1 and leting the car go out slow like at 6k cus ive tried launching the car at 8k and all it did was a burnout and stayed there and it ran a 16.

Not a word from Ito since early Jan., and still no slips... Good thing this is a sticky, that way he won't miss it if he ever comes back!

I am sure it's high on his personal agenda to come over to a forum he hardly frequents to prove you wrong.

Chill, Ike....I'm sure it's true. I personally don't care, but whatever.......

Ike Don't make fun of the man with the fastest rx-3 in the country.

I never called BS on Ito, it would just be nice to see some slips that he promised months ago, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this. I'd also be interested in hearing about what came to be of his tranny woes and if he's been able to make more runs with the car.

Originally posted by IkeWRX
I never called BS on Ito, it would just be nice to see some slips that he promised months ago, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this. I'd also be interested in hearing about what came to be of his tranny woes and if he's been able to make more runs with the car.

...or if he's done any progress on the tranny bracing/mounts he was hoping for.

Yes, I'd like to hear about all this too.

Hmm, I ran a 14.9 at 92ish. With a terriable 2.2 60ft. I'm shure with a little more practice, I could get the car down to a 14.6. But as it was I only had 3 attempts to launch the car. One, was with some terriable wheel spin, (7k rpms launchs are way to high) and the second was with traction control on. (Doh') and the 3rd was my 2.2 60ft. I know I can do better, but need some more practice in this car. CJ

Sorry to be off subject, but I've been reading this forum for a while and I laugh my a%% off every time I see Ike's avatar.

Now back to the discussion.

Originally posted by VRRocket
Sorry to be off subject, but I've been reading this forum for a while and I laugh my a%% off every time I see Ike's avatar.

Now back to the discussion.



If you think that's funny, do a search on ALL of his comments here...

Originally posted by SDFLY
If you think that's funny, do a search on ALL of his comments here...

Yeah, it's pretty funny how many times I've made you look like you have no clue what you're talking about :p

if these are real times posted by owners then it kinda makes you wonder how R&T and other mags post 14.5 times...same with the 7 back in the day...mags always had better times than most drivers could achieve...and better 0-60mph times too...i know my stock turbo 7 convertible was slower than stock times in magazines(before all the mods)..kinda makes ya wonder

Originally posted by Travelintrevor
if these are real times posted by owners then it kinda makes you wonder how R&T and other mags post 14.5 times...same with the 7 back in the day...mags always had better times than most drivers could achieve...and better 0-60mph times too...i know my stock turbo 7 convertible was slower than stock times in magazines(before all the mods)..kinda makes ya wonder

We can always blame it on journalistic parassitic gains....j/k

Well, I'm not shure I agree. I'm not paid to drive a car, nor do I race alot. But, when I first purchased my FD, I ran it at the local track. It ran a 13.6@101.96mph bone stock. No downpipe, cat back or even a boost gauge. It was suppose to run a 13.5@102. I was'nt even shifting the car hard...or atleast like I would if the car was'nt mine. :D

The Rx-8 is even harder to launch than my FD. I've only dropped the clutch 3 times in the car, and I ran a 14.9@92mph. Like I said above, I'm positive I can run a 14.7 with just a little practice. No power shifting, nor burnout, or anything like that. The car should be able to turn a better 60ft time than my crappy 2.2, when I ran the 14.9! I beleive a profesional driver, who did'nt care about the car at all (Somone not afraid to break things.) could put this car a 14.5@95ish with a good track and weather conditions.

CJ

It's odd, but it almost seems like more wheelspin and higher 60' times leads to better 1/4 times with the RX-8.

I totally agree on the wheelspin leading to better times. I ran mine last night in the 1/8th just for fun and my best 60' 2.2 had a TON of wheel hop. This car seems extremely hard to launch. I guess with enough practice I'd find a balance but as is right now I either blow the tires off or bog down. Ran a 9.9 at 71mph was my best and that one had a 2.3 60'. Once they introduce some nice turbo setups these cars are going to be a blast as a daily driver.

Originally posted by Travelintrevor
if these are real times posted by owners then it kinda makes you wonder how R&T and other mags post 14.5 times...same with the 7 back in the day...mags always had better times than most drivers could achieve...and better 0-60mph times too...i know my stock turbo 7 convertible was slower than stock times in magazines(before all the mods)..kinda makes ya wonder


Road and Track testers never power shift or drop the clutch, according to them.

i just saw judge ito today. as always he is extremely busy at his rotary shop. a few reasons the car has not seen the track. this is not his toy car but his daily driver..... he also doesn't want to void his warranty. if anyone is willing to sponsor him a car, he will build an indestructible race car

Well I took my 8 ( Velocity red, Grand Touring Package, MT, and a bypass of the IAT) out for it's first run tonight, did. . . ok. Only an 1/8 mile track near here. Best run was 10.13, 2.229 60', 69.07 MPH. Had some SERIOUS trouble getting into second gear. I only got 3 runs (out of 8) where I did not have to hit second gear twice (sometimes 3 times) before it would engage. I think my synchro is shot to second, had a couple guys look at it and say the same. I had a couple runs that might have been under 10 if it wasn't for the problems with second. I was neck and neck with a stang that ran a 9.64 until it was time to shift and he was running boost, so if I figure this out I think I can have her in the mid to high 9's. My 60 times where from 2.2 - 2.4 (not great) I was launchin anywhere from 4K - 5.5K and pretty much dropping the clutch (minor feathering at best). @ 26 PSI, I think next time I will go down a little more, I did not get much wheel hop (it was there but fairly minimal compared to what I was seeing from others). I was expecting much more, still was not great traction, but once she gripped we were smoking (til it was time to shift to second). You guys think the warranty will cover that clutch? Only had it since November and this was the first time I ran it (hard shift started on very first run). I think it might actually be a factory defect cause I haven't driven it very hard (most of the time) before tonight.

Have slips if you want to see.

Thanks guys.

RX8 Sooner

hey guys, i just got a chance to test my rx-8 for RWHP and dyno

dyno-163RWHP
1/4-15.53@95.4mph

i cant get the car to hook up, to high of revs burns the tires, and not enough makes me hop, 1st gear was useless....

i know im killing about a sec off my take off, but theres just not enough tire to get me there.

Originally posted by IkeWRX
It's odd, but it almost seems like more wheelspin and higher 60' times leads to better 1/4 times with the RX-8.

This might be due to the rotary not building torque until the higher RPM's, once you are there you can stay there shifting, by 60ft, you may not have enough RPM's built up by then, once there the acceleration is smooth so it builds speed later.

I haven't 1/4ed mine, just some drifting and mountain hairpins,
must have been the reason I needed my Bridgestones replaced at 10K miles.

This looks like old news, but I thought I'd throw it out here:

http://rotarynews.com/?q=node/view/208

pretty good times must have been awesome drives

hey guys, i just got a chance to test my rx-8 for RWHP and dyno

dyno-163RWHP
1/4-15.53@95.4mph

i cant get the car to hook up, to high of revs burns the tires, and not enough makes me hop, 1st gear was useless....

i know im killing about a sec off my take off, but theres just not enough tire to get me there.

No your pretty much right on target with the average RX8 manny tranny runs.. I'm sure you can drop it another .1-.3 with near perfect launches but you would be lucky to land a launch like that more then 10% of the time. Mtself and a few others I have seen run up the track were all between 15.2-15.5 with 2.1-2.3x 60 foot times. I have also seen Autos running mid-low 16's :(

Hey guys,

MPH and ET not up to Judge ITO's standard, but a 60' of 2.0xx twice and no busted box, not busted clutch. :D Street tyres. Driven to the track, driven home again.

I don't know how the temp/humidity compares with your North American tracks.

Best run on the night:

http://www.hymee.com/rx8/images/race222.jpg

And just to prove that 60' wasn't a fluke...
http://www.hymee.com/rx8/images/race336.jpg

Stock as a rock engine and PCM.

Hymee Enhanced "Catback"

Cheers,
Hymee.

Posted the same slip?? What's the other one look like :D

Posted the same slip?? What's the other one look like :D


Do'h http://www.hymee.com/smilies/sm_doh.gif

Fixed IMG tag now :)

Thanks mate.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Well I took my 8 ( Velocity red, Grand Touring Package, MT, and a bypass of the IAT) out for it's first run tonight, did. . . ok. Only an 1/8 mile track near here. Best run was 10.13, 2.229 60', 69.07 MPH. Had some SERIOUS trouble getting into second gear. I only got 3 runs (out of 8) where I did not have to hit second gear twice (sometimes 3 times) before it would engage. I think my synchro is shot to second, had a couple guys look at it and say the same. I had a couple runs that might have been under 10 if it wasn't for the problems with second. I was neck and neck with a stang that ran a 9.64 until it was time to shift and he was running boost, so if I figure this out I think I can have her in the mid to high 9's. My 60 times where from 2.2 - 2.4 (not great) I was launchin anywhere from 4K - 5.5K and pretty much dropping the clutch (minor feathering at best). @ 26 PSI, I think next time I will go down a little more, I did not get much wheel hop (it was there but fairly minimal compared to what I was seeing from others). I was expecting much more, still was not great traction, but once she gripped we were smoking (til it was time to shift to second). You guys think the warranty will cover that clutch? Only had it since November and this was the first time I ran it (hard shift started on very first run). I think it might actually be a factory defect cause I haven't driven it very hard (most of the time) before tonight.

Have slips if you want to see.

Thanks guys.

RX8 Sooner

Glad I found this thread.

i have been havin a ton of trouble with getting into second gear at high rpms. guess my tranny may be wearing thin too.

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