you know we all want it - the rotor-shaped rear fog light the euro cars are getting. I want to have mine to put it on the day I pick up my car from the dealership. someone is going to sell these right?

Originally posted by pmacwill
you know we all want it - the rotar-shaped rear fog light the euro cars are getting. I want to have mine to put it on the day I pick up my car from the dealership. someone is going to sell these right? Maybe, but I won't buy it separately. Serves no purpose for me really..

I've never liked front fog lights, so I may remove them. However, the rear Euro-spec rotor light looks interesting, although pretty useless, IMHO. Should I decide to get one, perhaps I'll run one of the front wires to the rear to possibly turn on this light. That is, if the fog lights have a separate control from the headlights!

Originally posted by pmacwill
you know we all want it - the rotor-shaped rear fog light the euro cars are getting. I want to have mine to put it on the day I pick up my car from the dealership. someone is going to sell these right?

Mazda USA will be offering this little piece as an option. The bad, a price of over $200 was mentioned. We'll see.

Bern

Originally posted by bern


Mazda USA will be offering this little piece as an option. The bad, a price of over $200 was mentioned. We'll see.

Bern

I hope they do, then Mazda Canada may do the same.

Originally posted by bern


Mazda USA will be offering this little piece as an option. The bad, a price of over $200 was mentioned. We'll see.

Wow. I wonder how much the rotor key will be. Uh... $100 :mad:

*cough choke cough* $200!! Good Lord, how 'bout I give you $20 and u put a flash light in there and cover it with red cerean wrap :D

Originally posted by bern


Mazda USA will be offering this little piece as an option. The bad, a price of over $200 was mentioned. We'll see.

Bern

are these all options I can get from my dealer once they get the car? The aero, the foglight, the 6 cd in-dash, the cool key??? if not, I'm really getting bent over the table by having ordered already, cause these are all things I wanted.
And all the sudden my RX-8 is turning into a 40,000USD car with these options.

Screw the rear fog light, I want rear FLOOD lights that mount on my roof. That way when some oversized slow a** SUV is trying to drive in my trunk with his brights on I can blind him and subsequently make him crash. HEHEHEHE!!!!

Quick

Originally posted by bern


Mazda USA will be offering this little piece as an option. The bad, a price of over $200 was mentioned. We'll see.

Bern

they have got to be joking?! bern you still have both legs attached? 'cause i think someone was tugging on one of them real hard

sadly, I'd pay $200 for it.

word Pmac, god we must have issues.....blahAHAHAHahahahaha id pay 200 for that style, but i REALLY hope it aint much more than 100 TOTAL for the KEY AND THE LIGHT, and another 100 or so for the 6disc. Those little things make the car in some ways......
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I can't see the 6-disc being a dollar less than $300

I've searched for it, but haven't found it. Anyone have a link to a picture of this rear fog light? Or a picture to post here?

Thanks

Originally posted by TreknMazda
I've searched for it, but haven't found it. Anyone have a link to a picture of this rear fog light? Or a picture to post here?

This is what you are looking for...

Thanks Renesis08.

:cool: I like it! Not thrilled with a $200 price tag but maybe that is a high guesstimate.

Maybe they didn't include it standard for the same reason Mini disabled the one on the American versions- appparently we in the US tend to use fog lights like status symbols, and the rear fog lights are extra bright and they were afraid it'd create a blinding road hazard, literally.

I sent an inquiry to my MAZDAUSA RX8 order customer rep about options and the rumor a 'final' list would not be out till March. Also, specifically asked about the rear fog light for the USA.

"...there will be no additional options available other than the Navigation System. The rear fog light is not going to be available for United States vehicles. "

:(

does anyone know if the taillights are LED?
they dont look it.....
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I believe the X-men movie car has a nice aluminum looking insert for the rotor shaped hole where the euro cars are getting the fog light and we are getting nuttin!

Depending on how it is wired, the rear fog may illuminate as though you are riding you're brakes.

While I think it is a nice addition to the rear of the car, I won't bother with it unless it works as a third rear running lamp/brake lamp, and must be less than $100. You can currently get little lights as I just described as a hitch plug for @ $30. I would think you could rig this similarly.

My wife's Audi A6 has a rear fog light, and I've never used it. A rotary shaped rear fog on the RX-8 would be sweet though. It would really be more for show than usefulness, but I don't have a problem with that. Then again, if it keeps someone from rear-ending you, it's worth every penny of the $200.

... OK, don't flame me , but what I really want is a rear turbine jet exhaust port like on the back of the "batmobile!"

:D :D :D :D

... and I want my very own batcave too!

LOL!
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i think its a nice touch to the rear of the car...but even if we could get it...$200 would be way to much for it....are the euros getting it standard or is it an option?

Originally posted by RX - 8
....are the euros getting it standard or is it an option?

Standard as I understand it because it is a legal requirement in Europe to have a rear fog light.

My Volvo has a rear fog and if you live in an area that gets foggy you will really appreciate it -- stands out like Rudolph the Red Nosed Raindeer. :D

i hope my mom gets teh s60 so i can steal it and grand-tour around lol
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I think the fog lamp is a great idea. We must have at least two or three 40-car pile-ups a year just in North Atlanta because of fog related accidents. The drivers in behind just don't see the cars in front of them.

I wonder if there is a rear-fog button "placeholder" (one of those blanks) somewhere on the dash. Then again I imagine it just turns on if you have your forward fog lamps activated.

are these rear fog lights on all the time with the front lights? i've personally never seen a car with rear fog lights...when i first saw them on the RX, i just thought they were brake lights or reflectors...

No, the fog light is (as it sounds) only for use in fog. It's a very high power light that can be seen through fog for some distance to stop other cars whacking into the back of you. People in England get very upset if you leave them on by mistake in clear weather because they're blinding! Likewise we can fit front fog lamps that cut through the weather.

But good abt the rear fog light on the RX8 is it sits low and won't be that disturbing (compare to Volvo's, Benz's, and other Euro cars, which sits at the same level as the brake lights). I am thinking about getting it either from Japan or aftermarket (if it is going to be available), but is US spec cars wired for that or I have to wire it myself?
Right now I just not sure whether to get the rotary accent or the fog light, both looks great.

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RortorGeek wrote:
Hey Guys I was checking out the mini forum ( NO I AM NOT PLANNNG TO BUY ONE) They all signed an e-petition and got MINI to install the rear fog lamps in the future. Maybe we could get something started for our non-functional rear lamps. Heres the link.
Hey Guys I was checking out the mini forum ( NO I AM NOT PLANNNG TO BUY ONE) They all signed an e-petition and got MINI to install the rear fog lamps in the future. Maybe we could get something started for our non-functional rear lamps. Heres the link.

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthre...hlight=fog+lamp


I don't think it would do any good, but I would sign a petition. I planned on purchasing the rear fog light later on regardless.

its offered here in Japan, but its around $250 plus shipping

Originally posted by Jt-Imports
its offered here in Japan, but its around $250 plus shipping

The real issue is whether the wiring harness is already there on the US spec'd cars. If it is, then it won't be too difficult of an install.

It's nice to know that it's available for purchase from Japan. I assume you know a good importer where we can purchase the part, if we want it. ;)

hehe I would think its the same. To be honest I have never seen one that wasnt inside and RX8, I could always jump on the ground and take a pic or ask them to lift it in the air so I can take a pic hehe or the wires..

The only thing is where to wire it to? As would you just wire it to one of the tail lights?

I've owned 2 BMW's and six different Benzes and all had the rear fog light. Admittedly, I had little need to use, but when I did, in mountain fog, I was glad I had it. BTW, it has an on/off switch independent of the front fog lights. Also, I now understand the light will be available as an option for the US Mini.

I had one on my old S60. It's also handy for tailgaiters. Someone comes up too close, you can switch on the rear fog light. For a second they think it's a brake light and back off. :)

That HOLE in the back is beginning to bother me.

some possible solutions?

1. rearward subwoofer port
2. sport hitch pass-thru
3. batmobile fire port accessory

A couple of months ago when the 8 had it's own website I noticed in the gallery section the Euro models had a rotor shaped rear fog light in the lower valence (we get a black recess). I sent Mazda an email about this when I first saw it but got no reply. We should all seek a retrofit like the Mini owners (BMW is retrofitting all Minis with rear fog lights according to Autoweek). Other posts suggest we should seek an HP and MPG fix which will be more difficult. I am very pleased with the power. Assuming the tank was full when I got it, I got 16mpg mostly city with AC on full time, shifting at 3K never above 5K in the first 200 miles using 12.5 gal.

In another thread I saw a mention of a rear fog light, does anyone have any pictures of this and why you would want a rear fog light?

-Chris

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3808&perpage=15&highlight=fog&pagenumber=2

There's more do a search...

ok... but why would you want one?

-Chris

you'd want one so that vehicles approaching from the rear will be more able to see you in a heavy fog. They must have more fog in England because I think it's standard there and maybe with the Aussie version.
I was behind a car last week that had one and had it on. It was so bright it was almost obnoxious with very thin fog.
We get a lot in the 'mountains' here so I'd like to have one. It fits in the rotor shaped indentation on the lower rear fascia.

Didnt even think about that... makes sense ;)

There is no fog light on the Australian version. We don't get the low temperatures in most areas that Europe and UK get, hence there's not much call for one... however they still look cool.

I want one because it looks cool

I'd be interested in either getting the rear fog light or brighter "backup lights". After getting the legal limit of tinting, it can sometimes be too dark for backing up at night.

Has anyone tried installing a rear fog light yet? There's not much info available on this subject so if someone knows something about the installation, please enlighten the rest of us.

I dont think anyone in US has them yet

Originally posted by rx8daniel
you'd want one so that vehicles approaching from the rear will be more able to see you in a heavy fog. They must have more fog in England because I think it's standard there and maybe with the Aussie version.

Yes, you're right. Rear fog light is standard in Europe.

I'm curious... does the fog light automatically disengage itself when the ignition is turned off, or can it be turned on permanently? The reason I ask is because one of my pet hates are wankers who leave their rear fog lights turned on all day every day. Not a problem over here where virtually no vehicles have rear fogs, but back home in Australia it seemed to be a plague.

Quite apart from being annoying, rear fog lights can be downright bloody dangerous when it's not foggy, because they're very bright and they're aimed straight into the eyes of the driver behind.

that's what I noticed on the one I observed. with no fog it was almost blinding even being red. you can PM me now eccles - my box is open again.

Originally posted by eccles
I'm curious... does the fog light automatically disengage itself when the ignition is turned off, or can it be turned on permanently? The reason I ask is because one of my pet hates are wankers who leave their rear fog lights turned on all day every day. Not a problem over here where virtually no vehicles have rear fogs, but back home in Australia it seemed to be a plague.

Quite apart from being annoying, rear fog lights can be downright bloody dangerous when it's not foggy, because they're very bright and they're aimed straight into the eyes of the driver behind.

In Europe normally when you turn off the ignition fog lights automatically disengage, so I think RX8 will be the same.

You're right, rear fog ligths can be a bit dangerous when is no fog because they're very bright, but RX8 right fog is in a very low position..

Does anyone know anything about a rear fog light? It's a red light that fits into the rear rotary design below the bumper. I've only seen it on pictures of the "European" RX's.

I know no one in the US has it yet
I know I want one

I wrote to Japan parts about the rear fog lights and they told me(without explanation) that would not "suit" my American model.

that sucks

Originally posted by sco
There is no fog light on the Australian version. We don't get the low temperatures in most areas that Europe and UK get, hence there's not much call for one... however they still look cool.

Try Canberra my friend... even in Winter and Spring time in Melbourne

This is a mod that looked easy, but then turned nasty!
Bought the 'Rear Fog Light' assembly from Canzoomer (I never could resist a good sale!)
Just the lamp, so I wouldn't have to take off the rear bumper to install the wiring harness.
I thought I knew where to cut, the little rotary shaped 'well' has a bit of a ridge at the bottom that looks like a 'cut-here' situation.
Too easy, cut out the bottom of the dimple and test fit the lamp. Doesn't fit, and the screw holes are still an inch from the screw brackets, so another inch of depth has to go.
My poor Dremel tool is knackered from all this plastic and dust.

So I finally get all th surplus plastic cut away, I had to remove everything inside the 'lip' of the cutout, except one quarter inch.
Mount the lamp and screw it into place.
Run some wires up thru the grommets into the trunk, and tap into the rear light circuit.
A switch, and a fused power tap into the hot wire.

Lights up real nice... too nice... it is a FOG light after all, and resembles a laser beam from behind. First cop that sees this is giving me a ticket.
OK, a resistor to lower the output....no, that just makes a feeble laser beam.
So I replace the bulb with a cluster of red leds......now it's WAY too bright.
.....Red leds at 90 degrees, pointing sideways into the reflector.....(probably a mistake to use 8,000 candle power high intensity leds)......led powered laser beam.
A 70 ohm resistor finally tames the intesity to sub-cyclotron levels. I figure as long as it is a bit dimmer than the normal rear lights, I should be OK.

Mounted the switch inside the trunk lock cover while it was off, a nice recessed switch so it would not get switched by luggage, and the whole thing finally looks great.

Couple of shots from behind......

wow,

looks really good

Wow, EXCELLENT post Doctorr! I too have the rear fog and plan to put it in when I get a chance, and you just saved me a WHOLE lot of trouble and experimentation. Coupla questions though...

First off, when you got done cutting, how much was gone and from where? The rear flat backing to the rotary symbol, plus another inch into the rotary shape from the rear? So if you look at the inside of the rotary shape, there was only a 1/4 inch of plastic left? Just want to make sure I'm clear here.

Secondly, where did you get the automotive-rated resistor?

The rest I can handle. Thanks...

Question: For clarification (for me anyway), so is this fog light still hard wired to your brake lights? I want the rear fog light but want to use independently of the brake lights. Thanks.

The cutting - you need to take off all the plastic inside, except the last quarter inch of the first little rim around the 'well'. You can just make out the lip that is left at the top of this picture. I found it is impossible to take a picture of my LED 'bulb' inside the reflector....

The wiring - It is now more of an illuminated symbol, instead of a 'projector'. Since it is no longer bright I just wired into the rear running lights, but the control is inside the trunk. If you wanted on/off control from the dash, you could buy the wiring harness for it, but it involves major surgery, bumper removal etc. Or you could just buy the Mazda switch which fits next to the DSC Off button, and run your own wires.

'Zoomer can get the light, the harness and the switch fairly cheaply, and he even has a nice optional switch - it is a two-in-one button, one 'fog light' switch and one 'DSC Off' switch in one unit, the same size as the original (and the same PRICE!)

A resistor was no good, it dimmed the bulb, but left it focussed back down the road, just like the original.
I used L.E.D.s to light it up, but not 'blind' people behind. My LEDs were just a little too powerful, from a flashlight project I was doing. I DID run six of them in a string under the dash, three in each footwell, powered from the running light circuit. They make nice bright foot lights.

Very nice further explanation, many thinks. But where was it you said you got the automotive-rated resistor, again? :)

I think I'm going to try it with the stock bulb and a resistor, but paint the top of the bulb with high-temp paint first so that it will only bounce off the reflector. By my reckoning, that oughta do the trick.

Did I say 'Automotive' Rated...?

I think I meant 'Old Zenith TV' rated!

I found a 20w resistor was about the right size, this one is 3.9 ohms, but of course will make a lot of heat, you would want to keep it away from plastics!

LOL, ok thanks.

why would you need a 20w resistor for LEDs, they don't use a whole lot of current.......?

Well, I got my light installed today, although I have not wired it in yet. Still pondering how I want to do that... brake lights at reduced power, running lights at greatly reduced power, dash switch at full power, or a combo of all of the above. We'll see.

Cutting the rear underbumper was painful, but went well as I gained confidence. Had to cut quite a bit more than I thought... initially cut to 1/4 inch of the outer edge, then had to cut that last 1/4 inch out too to make it fit.

Anyway, MUCH THANKS to Doctorr and for all your help. This is an excellent mod, IMHO.

the hole left BEFORE second cut. The "crease" is where I ultimately cut to.

another angle before the second cut...

second cut, showing extra cut out

And finally, INSTALLED. Yeah, I know, my baby's dirty. Gotta wash it tomorrow. :D

another angle

Well... Ya know, it's funny. In a couple of weeks or so, I'm going to install the full-blown kit. Complete with combo switch, wiring harness, cutting the rear bumper... the works. However, I'm not doing this one alone... I have an excellent body shop guy who is going to help me out with it. I will take pix, and post when completed. Step by step.
Keep watching here for the updates!
-doccble

Originally posted by doccable
I will take pix, and post when completed. Step by step.
Keep watching here for the updates! That will be greatly appreciated!

Yes, I'd like to see it too. :D

Thanks Omicron for the great pictures. How easy was it to take the rear bumper off? Have you put it back on yet? Keep us updated on what you decide regarding the wiring.

Doccable - thanks for your input. I look forward to seeing the pictures and instructions when you install yours in a couple weeks.

Originally posted by broose
Thanks Omicron for the great pictures. How easy was it to take the rear bumper off? Have you put it back on yet? Keep us updated on what you decide regarding the wiring.
Happy to share. That's one of the great things about this board, so I try to do my part.

At any rate, I never removed the rear under-bumper at all. I considered it, but decided it wasn't necessary. I did decide though that it wouldn't have been that hard to remove the middle section of the under-bumper if I needed to, as it's held in place by just 5 "pop" connectors. But these were at awkward angles to reach, so instead of messing with them I just sat behind the car or laid on my back to reach up under the car. Easy as pie with a dremmel tool to make the cut once you get over the act of cutting. :)

I'll keep y'all posted on the wiring when I tackle it.

Does anyone know if the rear foglight will fit inside the rear rotary accent?

My car already has the accent package and I want to add the fog light.

Thanks
Neil

Originally posted by wolfbeast
Does anyone know if the rear foglight will fit inside the rear rotary accent?

My car already has the accent package and I want to add the fog light.

Thanks
Neil

I talked to Maurice, (Canzoomer) about that. I have the accent also; he said that approximately 3/16" of the inside of the accent has to go. This is one of the many reasons I'm hiring it out. As soon as it's done, I'll post all the steps, and pix. I'm actually waiting on the body shop guy, he's busy right now, and unless I want to pay full price for his time...I'm just going to have to be patient.
Oh, well. Good things come to those who wait.
Or so they tell me.:D
-Doccable

Any updates, Doc?

--Landon

Thanks for the pic. Having owned cars with rear fogs I appreciate their value (not the 'cool' factor) but this one looks like a reflector tack on off an old 924.

-Eric

Attempting to fix the images in this thread.

hey guys i wanna get thah rear light culd you let me know how find it