I searched and posted in a few threads...im pretty sure its plug related...however here is a video of the sound...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biQJmu1SnlI

and then this sound when its in Drive...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9CfgXQjw3M

when its in neutral or park...it dosent do that...just drive...

Mostly looking for help on the 2nd sound...or unless you think my diag for the first is wrong too.

Thanks guys and gals.

So there is none of those noises while in N or P. First place i would look is your motor mounts.

SHIT..i have the exact same sound on my AT! good video..somebody help us out..

how many miles are on your car?

Alright this is a reply to the original poster and to a PM i received from volcom, gonna try to cover all bases here to make sure you each receive the information you need:

First make sure that the basics are covered, obviously nothing loose under the car, plugs are good, wires are on tight, mounts are KNOWN to be good.

A quick description of a sure fire way to know it's not the engine mounts, requires only removal of two bolts and it's pretty easy:

Get a jack that can reach the oil pan, slide a piece of wood (wide and long as possible) between jack and oil pan. barely jack up motor.
Unbolt the two top mount bolts going from bracket to the mount, this will eliminate the mounts from the equation. Jack up the motor a little bit more.
Now start the car (rec. a friend bracing the motor from under the hood with his hands just in case)
If the noise is still there, mounts are eliminated as suspect.

Now I've personally seen this noise a few times, very few to be specific. We were able to trace it to the torque converter/flex plate area. Best way to try to verify this is by removal of an inspection plate with the car running and the noise happening, if the noise gets louder then that is where the noise is coming from, if the noise doesnt change then it's most likely internal trans noise.

On the few I had when I called for authorization for a torque converter and flex plate and all the necessary bits on one I was authorized to replace the whole trans...noise went away. On the rest I simply skip authorization and replaced the torque converter and flex plate and installed all new nuts. IIRC this got rid of the problem on all of the cars, i somewhat think that ONCE it didnt and we replaced the trans and the noise went away but that could've been a different car.

Anyway the dealer should be able to easily narrow a noise like this down.

If you're willing to bring it to the dealer and ask to go in the shop with the tech then demonstrate the noise to him. Once it's happening have him lift the vehicle in the air, ask him to remove the inspection plate on the trans and see if the noise gets louder or if its easier to pinpoint directly to the torque converter. Please when being involved with a tech while being intelligent don't talk down to them or anything, dont act "holy" etc, we're all just normal guys, most are into cars so throw out some stuff youd say at an rx8 get together or some current car news or something. Take a look at their box, we generally personalize our area so you can figure our interests. Basically let him know you're not some soccer mom bitching and moaning and also dont make it seem like you are only there to prove them wrong.

My hunch is you both need at least new torque converter and/or flex plates, a lot of techs will fubar your trans installing a torque converter so you'll wind up with a new trans anyway LOL.

As far as a dealership calling that normal, thats really easy to defeat, ask them to show you an auto rx8 making that noise.

Or escalate the problem, get the regional representative contact information or request he gets involved. Someone will eventually relay the proper repair info, sucks that it requires effort to get repaired but trust me it needs to be and eventually will be repaired if the necessary steps are taken and you dont let them brush you off.

Hopefully this will help you both get your problem resolved as well as anyone else reading this topic and having the same sound. I reiterate, that noise is NOT normal. It may not cause shift concerns but it isn't normal. Also any 2006-2008 guys there's a TSB regarding updated torque converters with an added damper due to a weird problem during 6th gear lockup. Search for torque converter thru the rx8 TSB's and see if any of the ones your car qualifies for (vin range etc) symptoms apply. If they do you may just have not noticed the other problems except this noise. Unfortunately no TSB's for a tick noise are around tho.

Kevin.

how many miles are on your car?
just turned 60k this week:)

thanks a lot for this info! is this covered under warranty? i have 60k miles and i have an extended warranty up to 100k and my car is also pre-certified..

thanks a lot for this info! is this covered under warranty? i have 60k miles and i have an extended warranty up to 100k and my car is also pre-certified..

same here...I JUST GOT mine... on the 9th...

and i purchased full bumper to bumper premium care on the car...it better be fucking covered or im going to be one pissed off mofo

So there is none of those noises while in N or P. First place i would look is your motor mounts.

noises are in D, and Reverse...not park or neutral

I hope its covered...

Check spark plug wires :)

Or look at that super long post.

just a note i left out of my post:

This of course if its the torque converter or trans at all, dont take my word as 100% diagnosis, noises are difficult to pinpoint in real life, over the internet they can be even trickier, the only way for a definite diagnosis is in real life. That's why I always say to make sure you take all steps available at the dealer, if you feel anything is out of the ordinary you are right in having absolute certainty that it is in fact normal.

kevin.

Holy Mackrel!

That's one loud noise. Get hold of an old school guy like me and have him show you the ropes.

You need to search for that.

first thing i would check would be plug wires..

the lower front one tends to come loose.

then the tightness of the plugs themselves.. it happens. both have happened to me..

beers :beer:

I checked the Tranny fluid and its way overfull...
Could this be causing the noise as well? overfull tranny?

I think Teknics is right

yeah me too, car is going in next week to get looked at...

kelly, let me know what the dealership says and does..i am taking mine in as well..

Do you have a MT or AT???

They both have A/T's

kelly, let me know what the dealership says and does..i am taking mine in as well..


No problem!:icon_tup:

I'm a little worried , the Last time i called the shop manager told me the ticking was from carbon ( it could be i guess...idk) and to run some fuel system cleaner through the tank. Well the last 3 tanks Ive used Lucas fuel treatment...

then he told me there is no point in letting the car warm up in the morning...just get in it and drive...

now from what I have read and understood from some people that are very familiar with these cars...you always let them warm up to operating temp then drive them...am I correct? because that's what I do every day

i warm up my car every time and i think you should too..i used BG 44K which is supposed to be a really good fuel cleaner and my car still feels the same..the issue is most likely my transmission

oh most defiantly still tranny...just kinda wondering what the dealership will say next week lol

im going with what teknics said word for word...

also, my car makes that noise in all gears except parking and when i drive my car and push the engine the sound gets louder..is yours the same way?

also, my car makes that noise in all gears except parking and when i drive my car and push the engine the sound gets louder..is yours the same way?

it makes the noise when in neutral?

kevin.

oh most defiantly still tranny...just kinda wondering what the dealership will say next week lol

im going with what teknics said word for word...

Like i said, my diag can definitely be wrong, noises are very hard to diag without physically being there to hear. harder still with the car not on a lift for that kind of noise.

Take my advice on how to handle the situation however and whatever it turns out to be will get fixed. no matter what something on your car is making a noise it shouldnt be.

and dont tell them you talked to another mazda tech, they wont be faster to help i can tell you that.

kevin.

yes, i get the sound in all gears..gets loud when i push my car (drive around)

yes, i get the sound in all gears..gets loud when i push my car (drive around)

your specific problem i would definitely get looked over, happening in neutral seems odd to me. It could be something other then the torque converter. Getting louder when getting on it harder also makes me start to consider other things.

kevin.

what other things come in mind? cause i do get delayed shifting like you said..

I just talked to the dealership...the guy said it might be the motor mounts...so im dropping it off Wednesday to get it looked at...

would this be a likely scenario teknics??

i got new motor mounts 3 months from mazda and the sound is still there..

just got the word from the dealership....new engine.

next weekend my 8 is getting a engine swap...

however they said they might need new coils and wires and plugs...
Will they let me put the old ones back in the new engine and do it my self...obviously thats cheaper than 600 bucks for new stuff from them.

just got the word from the dealership....new engine.

next weekend my 8 is getting a engine swap...

however they said they might need new coils and wires and plugs...
Will they let me put the old ones back in the new engine and do it my self...obviously thats cheaper than 600 bucks for new stuff from them.

yea it sounded pretty bad, did you experience any real losses in power? knock sounds like that from a rotor motor are pretty serious damage indicators.

kevin.

yea it sounded pretty bad, did you experience any real losses in power? knock sounds like that from a rotor motor are pretty serious damage indicators.

kevin.


I juse sent you another PM...but illpost it here for others advice as well

I jsut bought this car...on the 7th and already it needs a new engine, and they want to charge me ( if it needs it...im sure they will say yes) new coils, plugs and wires for $695

personally i think that's asinine, I haven't even made my first payment and they want me to pay 700 bucks for this...

who would you guys recommend talking to?? the dealership sales man, or mazda directly?

I understand its regular maintenance for a car to have these things done, ive owned a car or 4 before lol. But seriously, isnt somehting not right about getting a car from a "reputable" local dealership and having something like this happen?

isnt this somehting that could have been prevented with a full car inspection before they re-sell the car??

The engine is covered up to 100,000 miles or 8 years what ever comes first. Tell them Mazda said so. Cuz like they did. Look up and call or email mazda of north america.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
-GIl

yea it sounded pretty bad, did you experience any real losses in power? knock sounds like that from a rotor motor are pretty serious damage indicators.

kevin.

You know I wonder if this is the sound that mysticl or what ever his name is was talking about when he was driving his car on the free way.
Hey Kevin do you think coil(s) upgrade/after market can do this?

The engine is covered up to 100,000 miles or 8 years what ever comes first. Tell them Mazda said so. Cuz like they did. Look up and call or email mazda of north america.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
-GIl



You know I wonder if this is the sound that mysticl or what ever his name is was talking about when he was driving his car on the free way.
Hey Kevin do you think coil(s) upgrade/after market can do this?

no,

the motor core is covered to 8 / 100 miles. that is it. the insides of the motor.

beers :beer:

The core is covered to 8 / 100 miles? or did you mean 100,000 miles??? if he lost compression then he should be covered.

If they want to charge him close to $700 to put some parts on that will take him about one hour tops then thats up to him. But from what he posted, it sounds like they are going to give him a new engine but want to charge him for new coils spark plugs and spark plug wires.
I say he buys all that for $300. and he can check out the DIY on how to install them parts.

The core is covered to 8 / 100 miles? or did you mean 100,000 miles??? if he lost compression then he should be covered.

If they want to charge him close to $700 to put some parts on that will take him about one hour tops then thats up to him. But from what he posted, it sounds like they are going to give him a new engine but want to charge him for new coils spark plugs and spark plug wires.
I say he buys all that for $300. and he can check out the DIY on how to install them parts.

yea,

100 miles. like i mean 8 days and 100 miles?

coils plugs wires are extra. yes it would be smart to do it yourself.

but it is not included or covered under warranty.

beers :beer:

yeah the new engine is covered....they are going to charge me for the coil, plugs, and wires...

I just called the dealership and hopefully they will call me back

no,

the motor core is covered to 8 / 100 miles. that is it. the insides of the motor.

beers :beer:

yea but if he supplies them the new parts installing them wouldn't add additional labor so he wouldnt be paying to have them installed.

That would be the best money saving strategy if you want them to install it.

DOMINION: not sure about aftermarket coil setups, personally havent looked into them at all.

kevin.

they called me back and said that more than likely I wont need them, however he dosent expect me to pay for them if i do.

that makes me feel a little better lol.

you need a new engine??? dude..i got a new engine 30k miles ago..do you think i need a new one? same sound makes me think i need another engine too...fuck

ALSO, am i covered? and will my AEM intake cause any complications? thanks

car went in today we will see how it goes in the next few days

ugh i want my car back i hate driving my mom's grand am lol

Car should be done tomorrow...had to order a metering line for the new engine...

was it free ?

how many miles do you have ?

was it free ?

yeah it was free

i have 61k on it right now..well that was the old motor...so now the tranny and body etc have 61k and the new motor will have just a few :)

well got it back today...HOLY FUCK its like a 100% improvment from the last motor..

throttle response is much better down low...no more knocking sounds when in gear...and NO TICKING AT ALL.

It runs super smooth

im very happy now..

Could this sound be caused by the injectors ? I'm getting this sound too about to swap out everything. if anyone has some used OEM injectors i could test with i'd buy em off ya, pm me and i'll clear that up.

if you can get a finger or long thing piece of metal onto the body of the injector you can feel the pulse/open&close of the injector, see if it matches the noise. it's a pretty rough diagnostic but it could help lead you the right away, personally i dont think it would be the cause of the noise tho.

kevin.