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Eric1987
03-04-2009, 12:46 AM
I know this engine doesnt respond to bolt ons very well. The question I have is how bad is it? Is it H22 bad? Or worse? I am considering this car in the future but I wanna get it on maybe a faster level. Like maybe high 13's. Mid would be great.

risky business
03-04-2009, 12:48 AM
high 13's are possible with nitrous and if you are a VERY good driver.

but as far as power goes, the cheapest way to make power is FI which is expensive :)

Eric1987
03-04-2009, 12:55 AM
So is it worse than the H22 or what? And how far will 220whp take me down the track?

Eric1987
03-04-2009, 01:02 AM
Wtf with over 100 more RWHP only a second faster? H22 is the engine in the honda prelude.

Eric1987
03-04-2009, 01:07 AM
How does a cobalt SS FWD with only 245fwhp get 13.56 stock and 330rwhp get 13.4? Roughly the same weight.

alz0rz
03-04-2009, 01:16 AM
Get the cobalt SS.

Eric1987
03-04-2009, 01:18 AM
So no one can answer my questions? I LOVE the look of the car. My favorite so far. Even better than corvettes and such.

Eric1987
03-04-2009, 01:24 AM
I'm not expecting it to be a strip queen. But I want to make it decently fast. Thats what I was asking.

Eric1987
03-04-2009, 01:27 AM
Okay one more question. How is the grip? Traction? Being stock of course. My camaro would lose traction like I was driving in the snow. Well not really but it was extremely easy to lose traction.

Eric1987
03-04-2009, 01:45 AM
How does the traction control work? My camaro it just kicks the pedal back at me and doesnt let me give it more throttle. And how easy is easy? And how is the braking? Whats the steering ratio? Anyone know where I can get more of the specific details? The big question. How hard or easy is it to work on? Like spark plugs and etc.

shazy
03-04-2009, 02:32 AM
How does the traction control work? My camaro it just kicks the pedal back at me and doesnt let me give it more throttle. And how easy is easy?

Are you a troll?????

Sorry but TCS is self explanatory. If you dump the clutch while the TCS/DSC is on, it will stop you from doing that and chances are you will stall. If you notice your tires are slipping (especially in winter) it will limit the power going to the rear wheels and will make your car bog down a bit.

This car is night and die compared to your pos handling from your CAMARO.
Think of it as more towards a Mx-5 or slightly closer to a s2000 that is much more forgivable.

Also, this car will not burn first unless,
A) Turbocharger installed with alot of power
B) Supercharger with a lot of power
C) Crappy ass tires
D) C) with A or B.
E) all of the above

alz0rz
03-04-2009, 03:23 AM
Test drive it. Seriously.

Eric1987
03-04-2009, 03:36 AM
Are you a troll?????

Sorry but TCS is self explanatory. If you dump the clutch while the TCS/DSC is on, it will stop you from doing that and chances are you will stall. If you notice your tires are slipping (especially in winter) it will limit the power going to the rear wheels and will make your car bog down a bit.

This car is night and die compared to your pos handling from your CAMARO.
Think of it as more towards a Mx-5 or slightly closer to a s2000 that is much more forgivable.

Also, this car will not burn first unless,
A) Turbocharger installed with alot of power
B) Supercharger with a lot of power
C) Crappy ass tires
D) C) with A or B.
E) all of the above

Not burn first? My prelude got a good chirp shifting to second. And forgiving? My camaro is very UN forgiving. Its so easy to lose control of my camaro its pathetic. The RX8 is better? The ONLY thing I dont like about the RX8 is the lack of power and MPG. I am also considering a cobalt ss or an sti. The RX8 is sooo damn sexy though.

Flashwing
03-04-2009, 04:48 AM
Not burn first? My prelude got a good chirp shifting to second. And forgiving? My camaro is very UN forgiving. Its so easy to lose control of my camaro its pathetic. The RX8 is better? The ONLY thing I dont like about the RX8 is the lack of power and MPG. I am also considering a cobalt ss or an sti. The RX8 is sooo damn sexy though.

To be honest, many people consider the RX8 "lacking" power because they can't beat their buddy on the highway onramp.

The RX8 is not nor was it designed to be a straight line car. The 50/50 distribution and suspension design was to make this a turning car which is why it's seen in autocross and road racing more than on the strip.

My local Mazda Club had a fairly quick SRT-4 follow us up a local canyon drive and he got left WAY behind. The best part was after he finally made it to the top he told a few of us "before today I thought my car was really fast."

If you're looking for a car that handles the drag strip and responds to bolt ons I'd look at something else as the RX8 will always dissapoint you at the track.

Now, throw some turns in there and you'll redefine what you thought "fast" was.

I have a friend with a 500whp Mustang Cobra that likes to go on mountain drives with us. Last time he was in front of me was cause my car was acting up and I was limping it up the mountain.

bse50
03-04-2009, 05:17 AM
Keep driving your camaro or prelude but hope not to meet an rx8 at a real track with real turns ;)

Flashwing
03-04-2009, 06:02 AM
Someone correct me if i'm wrong but the Prelude was actually really heavy for a 2 seater wasn't it?

I know the RX8 isn't exacly a light weight car but it's not a pig either.

08boostedmzda
03-04-2009, 10:35 AM
If you want something that responds well to bolt ons and has the potential to be good on the strip buy a Mazdaspeed 3 if you want a car than will handle extremely well and is well balanced and great for autocross or the track buy an RX8. I have owned both and both are great cars, but the RX8 is not built to be a straight line car.

risky business
03-04-2009, 01:18 PM
wow your annoying... dude DO some research and go test drive it. we aren't here to spoon feed you info that has been published in a widespread manner.

Eric1987
03-04-2009, 01:33 PM
Someone correct me if i'm wrong but the Prelude was actually really heavy for a 2 seater wasn't it?

I know the RX8 isn't exacly a light weight car but it's not a pig either.

The prelude had 4 seats. And to the poster above I have DONE research I was just curious for the bolt on mods because i didnt know what it would take to get it decently fast. I saw 1 guy go 14.5 stock and thought that wasnt bad. And a MS3 is ugly as hell.

TownDrunk
03-04-2009, 01:38 PM
I think your best bet is to test drive the car understanding that simple bolt-ons won't vastly improve straight line performance. You should know fairly quickly whether or not it's the car for you :D:

risky business
03-04-2009, 01:49 PM
-oh. and it doesn't take much to chirp the wheels on a FWD car thats a manual.

i CAN spin my tires tho, real easy. rev up to 6k and sidestep the clutch

Socket7
03-04-2009, 05:59 PM
I've heard that if you loop the exhaust headers back into the lower intake manifold you unlock almost unlimited power. You could probably use PVC pipe from home depot to do that. Cost like 20 bucks.

risky business
03-04-2009, 08:56 PM
:lol:

roll up to a stop light... cobalt SS rev's at you
other dude: hey man, cool car, what's it pushin'?
you: i have unlimited power.

Helghast7
03-04-2009, 11:05 PM
well if you want an 8 nows the time to buy..you can get a great used one for dirt cheap....which i think is kinda funny...but its a good looking car....just dont ask mazda how much power it makes :D

Eric1987
03-05-2009, 02:20 AM
I think I am gonna get an 8 for my next car. I dont need all the power of my camaro just yet. Too young and inexperienced. That car is too easy to get sideways too.

bse50
03-05-2009, 02:24 AM
If you're too young and inexperienced then keep the camaro. It is not fast and if you take a turn in the wrong way you can step on the accelerator. With the rx8 you have to know how to drive to be fast since you have to keep the momentum while turning.

shazy
03-05-2009, 02:30 AM
Not burn first? My prelude got a good chirp shifting to second. And forgiving? My camaro is very UN forgiving. Its so easy to lose control of my camaro its pathetic. The RX8 is better? The ONLY thing I dont like about the RX8 is the lack of power and MPG. I am also considering a cobalt ss or an sti. The RX8 is sooo damn sexy though.


Seriously test drive the car. When I was looking for my car, I tried to get every single amount of useful info about the car. Then I got carried away with the shitty MPG and the retarded stuff about the rotary engine.

Simply, go test drive it and none of the stuff (mpg and reliability) will bother you. Only reason you see these problems is because most people are ignorant about this car and have no idea what procedures are needed in order to fix it. But MPG is alright, some on this forum can manage 25-27mpg on pure highway.

Also for your reference stating that your prelude gave a good chirp from first to second, this car can burn a little if you shift fast into second with OK tires. It can also chirp third, but that's a bit rare.

Eric1987
03-05-2009, 12:01 PM
If you're too young and inexperienced then keep the camaro. It is not fast and if you take a turn in the wrong way you can step on the accelerator. With the rx8 you have to know how to drive to be fast since you have to keep the momentum while turning.

LOL wtf? Camaro is HORRIBLE for inexperienced drivers. Have you driven one? You know how EASY it is to get sideways? All that torque fucks shit up. You need REALLY good tires to not go sideways.