View Full Version : Holy Smokes! AMD Phenom II


staticlag
02-01-2009, 01:30 PM
Wow! Got it Friday $230 at Newegg. right out of the box blazing fast with its new 45nm architecture. Overclocked easily (just changed CPU multiplier to 16x from 15x in BIOS) and very stable at 3.2 gHz. Great buy!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471

I also picked up a tuniq tower 120 heatsink cpu cooling fan. Its crazy big, but keeps my cpu temps only 20 degrees F above ambient at full load.

(not my PC, but a shot of the fan)

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7240/p1010002wc3.jpg

pretty nice! the faster processor eliminated the bottleneck in my old setup. Now my games are +40fps across the board. 4870 x2 setup.

ShellDude
02-01-2009, 01:34 PM
I've been AMD since they went 90nm and was happy with the X2 up until the point Intel's new chips hit the market.

I'm jumping the AMD boat just as soon as the market has settled a bit. Hopefully you don't smoke and/or in a fairly dust free zone or that cooler is gonna clog up all nasty like.

staticlag
02-01-2009, 01:37 PM
Yeah the i7 platform is the bomb(if you've got the cash)! But I'd rather support the other major competitor in the market before they go out of business and intel can raise their prices sky high :)

Jedi54
02-01-2009, 01:54 PM
damn static, NICE choice!
I'm looking at rebuilding my comp soon and definitely going AMD

alz0rz
02-01-2009, 01:58 PM
i remember when i paid $300 for my q6600.. it was a beast then and it's still a beast now.

i have it air cooled in my Shuttle doing 3.0ghz.

DarkLord7854
02-01-2009, 03:23 PM
Aircooling is for wussies :p:

I've got my Q6600 @ 4ghz on watercooling.

I've never found an AMD cpu i liked.. always been an Intel fan (cept for the P4s >.>).

Wanting an i7 setup but it's a lot of $$ :(

mysql
02-01-2009, 03:26 PM
http://www.million-dollar-pc.com/gallery-2009/lian-li/p80/permafrost/permafrost-04.jpg

DarkLord7854
02-01-2009, 03:46 PM
MMMm sexy

elysium19
02-01-2009, 05:34 PM
dammit I do a search for "16x" and I get a COMPUTER!

staticlag
02-01-2009, 05:53 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/staticlag/bench_staticl.jpg

3DMark06

http://www.futuremark.com/benchmarks/3dmark06/download/

Mildly OC to 3.4 gHz, only change is CPU multiplier to 17x, no extra voltage needed :)

Phenom II, Corsair Dominator DDR2 1066 4GB, Radeon 4870, Asus M3a79-T MB...

ShellDude
02-01-2009, 05:54 PM
http://www.million-dollar-pc.com/gallery-2009/lian-li/p80/permafrost/permafrost-04.jpg

That mobo looks alot like my AV8 3rd Eye. Wouldn't be surprised at all if its an abit.

nycgps
02-01-2009, 08:51 PM
I've been AMD fan since K6

Their K5 was total garbage

K6 was better than Pentium at that time, but FPU on K6 was another garbage, plus its design had no headroom. and lost the MHz race.

Athlon smoked anything Intel has to offer until Prescott I think, thats like 4-5 years of time ? but too bad most ppl never heard of AMD and they didn't gain much market share. Even today, most ppl still dunno anything about AMD in general, they thought Intel is the only one.

I've been using Dual Opteron Dual core (Windsor core, 4 cores in total) for quite some time. Will upgrade to Shanghai core (Phenom II) later this year with another 16 gb of ram.

DarkLord7854
02-01-2009, 09:03 PM
I've been AMD fan since K6

Their K5 was total garbage

K6 was better than Pentium at that time, but FPU on K6 was another garbage, plus its design had no headroom. and lost the MHz race.

Athlon smoked anything Intel has to offer until Prescott I think, thats like 4-5 years of time ? but too bad most ppl never heard of AMD and they didn't gain much market share. Even today, most ppl still dunno anything about AMD in general, they thought Intel is the only one.

I've been using Dual Opteron Dual core (Windsor core, 4 cores in total) for quite some time. Will upgrade to Shanghai core (Phenom II) later this year with another 16 gb of ram.

Intel was shit throughout their entire Netburst phase, it wasn't until Conroe that their CPUs were worth any $$

nycgps
02-02-2009, 07:45 AM
Conroe is based on the Pentium-M design, which is based on the "original" Pentium design.

Thats quite sad IMO :( Intel couldn't come up with something better than that (YEah I know its much improved from Pentium, but its still based on that)

Netburst architecture was shit, but sadly, most ppl still got it cuz they dunno any better.


oh BTW staticlag, thats the NineHundred Case right ? OH ASK ME HOW I KNOW ! (got it over a year)

DarkLord7854
02-02-2009, 09:22 AM
Conroe is based on the Pentium-M design, which is based on the "original" Pentium design.

Thats quite sad IMO :( Intel couldn't come up with something better than that (YEah I know its much improved from Pentium, but its still based on that)


Yes and no..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_microarchitecture

The Core architecture (Conroe) is just "based" on it, it was mostly re-written from scratch and created a very powerful, efficient, and low-cost architecture. However it did keep some of the shortcomings of the previous architectures, mainly, it kept the memory controller on the northbridge and thus still relied on the FSB.


The Core i7 however uses a new architecture again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Nehalem_(microarchitecture)

Which is completely engineered from the ground up with an integrated memory controller and thus ridding itself of the FSB. It's incredibly efficient at processing, especially considering it's low power consumption, and has also been shown to give a greater performance increase when using dual, or triple, video cards.

alfy28
02-02-2009, 09:43 AM
very nice static. yah been a AMD fan since Athlon Thunderbird. at the time it was 600mhz.

HeavyMetal699
02-02-2009, 09:55 AM
I've built tons of computers for friends/family/businesses with AMD processors but never one for myself. Everytime I HAVE to build a computer for myself AMD isn't competitive.

I need to build a new computer soon though. My current one has a motherboard with a leaking capacitor.

I'm curious to see what the new intel platform will do with an integrated pci express controller built into the processor.

nycgps
02-02-2009, 11:24 AM
Yes and no..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_microarchitecture

The Core architecture (Conroe) is just "based" on it, it was mostly re-written from scratch and created a very powerful, efficient, and low-cost architecture. However it did keep some of the shortcomings of the previous architectures, mainly, it kept the memory controller on the northbridge and thus still relied on the FSB.


The Core i7 however uses a new architecture again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Nehalem_(microarchitecture)

Which is completely engineered from the ground up with an integrated memory controller and thus ridding itself of the FSB. It's incredibly efficient at processing, especially considering it's low power consumption, and has also been shown to give a greater performance increase when using dual, or triple, video cards.

thats why I said its based on Pentium, not a totally new design

core i7 is new build from ground up, but integrated memory controller is nothing new.

AMD's next gen will be out next year. :)