View Full Version : GTR trannies blowing left and right (6 so far in one thread)


dillsrotary
01-29-2009, 01:59 PM
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=27965

Begins with the OP stating his trans troubles at only 1000 miles and no launches what so ever. Suddenly there are 6 members now stating the same thing, the dual clutch trans is locking out the even number gears and throwing codes left and right.

tubingchamp
01-29-2009, 02:03 PM
Lol@Nissan.

Serves them right for being so cocky about how great the GTR is... 0_o

chiketkd
01-29-2009, 02:16 PM
Offer it with a manual trans. I don't care if it'll have a slower 0-60 time, but at least it'll be durable. Nissan definitely knows how to be build a strong 6 speed trans (R34 GTR's, 350/370Z, etc).

Btw, one upshot of offering the car with a 6MT would be a lower price! :cool:

DailyDriver2k5
01-29-2009, 02:17 PM
This decade for Nissan has sucked for trannies. There 02/03 Maxima- tranny issues. early 350Z-tranny issues, 05-07 Titans -tranny issues. Now there GT-R, where is Nissan getting there transmissions from,China?:icon_no2:

chickenwafer
01-29-2009, 02:22 PM
Ive heard Nissan issuing a recall to disable the launch control system after numerous transmissions have imploded and they have had to replace too many under warranty.

Good job, Nissan, you make something weaksos and then try to go back on your word by disabling a system so in the end the customer has to pay for your engineering shortcomings.

BlueEyes
01-29-2009, 04:09 PM
The new great fad on the internet seems to be bashing the GTRs transmission.

Jedi54
01-29-2009, 04:13 PM
The new great fad on the internet seems to be bashing the GTRs transmission.
the new fad is to ignore issues and must continue to Hail the GTR as the greatest car EVAR! :rolleyes:

RK
01-29-2009, 04:22 PM
Offer it with a manual trans. I don't care if it'll have a slower 0-60 time, but at least it'll be durable. Nissan definitely knows how to be build a strong 6 speed trans (R34 GTR's, 350/370Z, etc).

Btw, one upshot of offering the car with a 6MT would be a lower price! :cool:

I would leave off the 370Z until it's been available for more than a month. :)

Who knows what all the crazy rev matching they've introduced will do to the tranny.

And I think they disabled the launch feature in the 2010 GTRs but the earlier ones will keep them. Not that it mattered since their warranty got voided if they used it too much.

These reports are people who aren't using the launch and STILL having their trannies get jacked up.

risky business
01-29-2009, 04:25 PM
haha, i remeber talking about this when i worked at nissan before the cars came out.... all the mechanics were like, yeah its awesome, but the tranny wont last

BlueEyes
01-29-2009, 04:27 PM
the new fad is to ignore issues and must continue to Hail the GTR as the greatest car EVAR! :rolleyes:

Haha, I don't ignore issues. I ignore internet mob mentality. Just like I ignore the idea that rotaries blow up.

I couldn't care less about the GTR, but all I have read about tranny issues is a few (<10) people out of what? 2000 GTRs? bitching about their tranny blowing up. All inevitably claim they did nothing wrong and in most cases I've read, Nissan's black box shows signs of abuse.

Ross_Dawg
01-29-2009, 04:47 PM
N00B question - What is this launch control they speak of??

Jedi54
01-29-2009, 04:48 PM
set launch mode
mash pedal
it holds the rpm (or hits a certain rpm) and then BAM, off you go!
It's the equivilant of bombing the clutch at 7,000 rpm's, only it automates the process

Ross_Dawg
01-29-2009, 04:53 PM
lol... must be great for the tranny

Jedi54
01-29-2009, 04:55 PM
It likes it ROUGH but apparently can't handle it! :rofl:

Jedi54
01-29-2009, 04:56 PM
I think most of the supercars are doing similar systems, I'm pretty sure the Lambo LP640 (Murcielago) has it on their Auto as well.
Must be FUN but pretty brutal on the transmission if used too often

Shinka_MJR
01-29-2009, 04:59 PM
"Automates the launch"

ya know what.. if someone isn't smart enough to know how to launch the damned car.. they don't need to either own the f`ing thing or at least be launching it to begin with... good grief.

http://www.jlanghout.nl/images/Turbo%20Boost/Turbo%20Boost2.jpg

"Hit it KITT!"

Jedi54
01-29-2009, 05:00 PM
yeah, but it lets the Automatic guys get in on all the fun.
Sure beats the old days where you'd take an automatic, put it in neutral, rev the CRAP out of it, and then slam it into Drive!

CyberPitz
01-29-2009, 05:14 PM
yeah, but it lets the Automatic guys get in on all the fun.
Sure beats the old days where you'd take an automatic, put it in neutral, rev the CRAP out of it, and then slam it into Drive!

Aaahhh Reminiscing about m y '90 Topaz....

ASH8
01-29-2009, 07:29 PM
Does any car manufacturer make or have made for them an Automatic Transmission for High Performance (HPC), High RPM Cars that does not have reliability issues..

As we know Mazda has to detune (RPM's, etc) the RX-8 with either the 4 or 6 speed Auto for long term reliability.

Just curious...is there any brand that can last the distance?

eviltwinkie
01-29-2009, 08:00 PM
Does any car manufacturer make or have made for them an Automatic Transmission for High Performance (HPC), High RPM Cars that does not have reliability issues..

As we know Mazda has to detune (RPM's, etc) the RX-8 with either the 4 or 6 speed Auto for long term reliability.

Just curious...is there any brand that can last the distance?

The new ford double clutch is supposedly engineered for some pretty severe abuse...but they are going to use it initially for the econo-segment to get it into production...

They basically took a manual trans...and automated it with a dual clutch...no torque converters or hydro pumps needed...

But to answer your question...no...unless your talking about the old-school v8 class hydromatics...3 speed and 4 speed sometimes with overdrive...

Mine used to hold a 489ft/lbs torque monster no problem...with the shift kit...if the air got misty...i was driftin to skewl...

paulmasoner
01-29-2009, 08:06 PM
Ive heard Nissan issuing a recall to disable the launch control system after numerous transmissions have imploded and they have had to replace too many under warranty.

Good job, Nissan, you make something weaksos and then try to go back on your word by disabling a system so in the end the customer has to pay for your engineering shortcomings.

if the do this i'd be surprised if they dont get sued left and right, that or nissan will have to offer something to shut them up. you cant just go an disable a feature that was a possible selling point on a car and not expect bitching about it.

I know its not the same, but imagine if Mazda recalled ours to disable the A/C or power windows.....

alfy28
01-29-2009, 08:10 PM
was reading a japanse nissan forum. alot of them are complaining about the transmission. looks like the All mighty GTR has some serious issues.

benh
01-29-2009, 08:24 PM
Sorry if someone already link this link. After watching it, I thought it the funniest thing I ever seen!!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Hitlers-R35-GTR_317079.htm

eviltwinkie
01-29-2009, 08:35 PM
Sorry if someone already link this link. After watching it, I thought it the funniest thing I ever seen!!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Hitlers-R35-GTR_317079.htm

OMFG!! HAA THATS EPIC!!

I still to this day have never seen the original clip...but everytime its used...its hilarious...

But after reading the forum...EPIC

Marklar
01-29-2009, 08:44 PM
Sorry if someone already link this link. After watching it, I thought it the funniest thing I ever seen!!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Hitlers-R35-GTR_317079.htm

BWAHAHA!!!

"He won't sell it. He just ordered his AccessPort."

REsuperD
01-29-2009, 08:50 PM
it's all here: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=140966

quite a shame

Razz1
01-29-2009, 09:53 PM
First year always has problems.

YaXMaNGTO
01-29-2009, 10:30 PM
^^^^ LOL!!!!
"I'll just have to suck it up and pay it."

A couple of those lines made me lose it... damn that was funny.

Daemos
01-29-2009, 10:34 PM
And this is why you pay the premium for the Porsche.

rglbegl
01-30-2009, 01:23 AM
GTR + Old-school Getrag 5-speed + a real clutch (remember your left foot?) = a great car.


Nissan messed up by trying to make it TOO complex. Kudos for breaking new ground, the car will be historic because of it. It's just too bad the owners have to suffer through shit like this, especially after paying a mark-up to buy one.

Ross_Dawg
01-30-2009, 02:30 AM
like he said though, only 1% of GTR owners have had this problem SO FAR... we'll see how many have it in a few months

DailyDriver2k5
01-30-2009, 07:50 AM
Haha, I don't ignore issues. I ignore internet mob mentality. Just like I ignore the idea that rotaries blow up.

I couldn't care less about the GTR, but all I have read about tranny issues is a few (<10) people out of what? 2000 GTRs? bitching about their tranny blowing up. All inevitably claim they did nothing wrong and in most cases I've read, Nissan's black box shows signs of abuse.

This is true, a handful of GTR owners who have these problems can't speak for all the owners who don't have problems with there cars.

I am just shocked at Nissan this decade with there transmissions crapping out on there cars and trucks. They never had this problem before.

fastlaneracing
01-30-2009, 08:07 AM
I think this has been blown-up out of proportion.

I few owners that 1. Tuned their car or 2. didnt follow the instruction had some problems.

Its like everyone thinks Rotaries break all the time (we know its not true)

dillsrotary
01-30-2009, 08:19 AM
Does any car manufacturer make or have made for them an Automatic Transmission for High Performance (HPC), High RPM Cars that does not have reliability issues..

As we know Mazda has to detune (RPM's, etc) the RX-8 with either the 4 or 6 speed Auto for long term reliability.

Just curious...is there any brand that can last the distance?

Ferrari, Lambo, bugatti, etc. Its been proven time and time again that the "flappy paddle" gear box is faster around tracks, but the durability doesn't seem like something that has yet been engineerable.

fastlaneracing
01-30-2009, 08:28 AM
I know that more F1 & E Gear trannies has broken down compared to GTR trannies.

Why dosent everbody run around saying "Ferrari and lamborghini breaks down left and right" ?

neXib
01-30-2009, 08:49 AM
Well, I always say when it comes to cars, pick 2: Fast, reliable, cool.

The exceptions are Porsche 911 which is all of the above and Prius which is just one of the above (I'll let you guess)

alienRX8
01-30-2009, 08:50 AM
Well the 2010 model will not have LC, and there is a reflash out for the 2009 model cpu's so that they dont flow the transaxle which is apparently what is getting damaged.

alienRX8
01-30-2009, 08:51 AM
Well, I always say when it comes to cars, pick 2: Fast, reliable, cool.

The exceptions are Porsche 911 which is all of the above and Prius which is just one of the above (I'll let you guess)

The RX8 is only 1 of them too
its not Fast, its not the most reliable either so apparently its only cool

:lol:

dillsrotary
01-30-2009, 08:51 AM
After reading more of the thread it seems that the launch control isnt the issue but incredibly high trans temps are....

alfy28
01-30-2009, 09:14 AM
like he said though, only 1% of GTR owners have had this problem SO FAR... we'll see how many have it in a few months lol i am going to have to watch this one when i get home , work blocks the site :( nerf work lol. btw IGN gave it a 9.4 WOOT

Razz1
01-30-2009, 09:18 AM
Well, I always say when it comes to cars, pick 2: Fast, reliable, cool.

The exceptions are Porsche 911 which is all of the above and Prius which is just one of the above (I'll let you guess)

Now your talking Miatia.

Reliable and cool

alfy28
01-30-2009, 09:19 AM
like he said though, only 1% of GTR owners have had this problem SO FAR... we'll see how many have it in a few months yah i agree with you.

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i go to a japanese nissan forums to chat with friends. there is quite a few of GTR trans threads. but i dont spend much time reading them. but most of the ones that i read are not launch control related.