View Full Version : did you motorcycle guys (and gals) see this?


zoom44
01-06-2003, 04:14 PM
http://autoshow.msn.com/autoshow2003/photos/S_Tomahawk-f.jpg Literally a Viper engine on wheels, the Tomahawk concept reaches 60 mph in a mere 2.5 seconds.
http://autoshow.msn.com/autoshow2003/photos/S_Tomahawk-r.jpg The Tomahawk 4-wheel motorbike is easily one of the most outrageous concept vehicles of the show.
http://autoshow.msn.com/autoshow2003/photos/S_Tomahawk-COO.jpg The Tomahawk Concept
This is the wild one. Imagine a 500-horsepower Viper engine on wheels. No chassis or body, just wheels. That’s the Tomahawk. Wolfgang Bernard, outfitted in the requisite leather jacket, drove this concept onstage.


This 4-wheel motorbike is a mechanical sculpture, with nothing but outrageous performance in mind. Weighing only 1,500 lbs., the Tomahawk can reach 60 mph in just 2.5 seconds. Top speed is estimated to be around 300 mph, but that hasn’t been verified. Yet. When Dieter Zetsche, president and CEO of the Chrysler Group asked if this vehicle would ever be produced, the response was “maybe,” which is more than many other automaker execs would have granted.

BryanH
01-06-2003, 11:59 PM
:eek: Mommy... :eek:

Wolfgang doesn't look too comfortable there. ;)

I'd be worried about falling off the back of that thing... such mad acceleration and yet the seatback is so low. Hold on tight!

Aesculapius
01-07-2003, 10:21 AM
Why do I keep hearing Tron music in my head?


Who is your user?

kysh
01-07-2003, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by zoom44

This 4-wheel motorbike is a mechanical sculpture, with nothing but outrageous performance in mind. Weighing only 1,500 lbs., the Tomahawk can reach 60 mph in just 2.5 seconds. Top speed is estimated to be around 300 mph, but that hasn’t been verified. Yet. When Dieter Zetsche, president and CEO of the Chrysler Group asked if this vehicle would ever be produced, the response was “maybe,” which is more than many other automaker execs would have granted. [/B]

To Dodge, I'd say: Big deal! My F4 can do 0-60 in 2.7, do 160+, and actually handle. :> 200mph on that thing would be just about impossible due to aerodynamics.

It's an interesting concept, but it would make a terrible bike.

Oh yeah, and about my F4- It's lighter, it sips gas, is dead comfortable in rain, sleet, snow, heat, hail, ice (Ok, it's a bit nervewracking in ice, but that doesn't stop it :), and so forth.


Now I'll grant that the Dodge engine-on-wheels is rather neat looking.
But it really pales to the <A HREF=http://marineturbine.com/superbike/default.htm>Marine Turbine Y2K</A> in terms of audacity. And the Y2K is cheaper.

If only Pratt & Whitney would make a PT-6-on-wheels, then I
might be interested. :>

-Kysh

danger
01-08-2003, 12:41 AM
that bike is ridiculous... a bike is supposed to be more nimble and corner better than most cars on the road... i don't think that thing would do well in the twisties... the highway yes, but turning will be a tad bit trickier....

RX-3_13B_Tommo
01-08-2003, 05:48 AM
My bike can do 0-60cm in 1 seconds, stops on a penny and it has a basket, pretty pink, white and purple streamers and white wheels and sparkles on the peddles. Oh, we're not talking about pushbikes are we? Damn it!!!

wakeech
01-08-2003, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by danger
that bike is ridiculous... a bike is supposed to be more nimble and corner better than most cars on the road...

what would you expect from moron muscley "car guys"??

jbebernes
01-08-2003, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by danger
that bike is ridiculous... a bike is supposed to be more nimble and corner better than most cars on the road... i don't think that thing would do well in the twisties... the highway yes, but turning will be a tad bit trickier....

A few years ago Motorcyclist magazine did a comparo thing between a Yamaha FRZ1000 (then one of the baddest sport bikes going) and a Z51 Corvette on a couple of different race tracks. On the tighter track the Corvette won due to better lateral acceleration (near 1.0 vs. 0.85 for the Yamaha). On the longer track the FZR smoked the Corvette with its vastly superior acceration.

kysh
01-08-2003, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by jbebernes


A few years ago Motorcyclist magazine did a comparo thing between a Yamaha FRZ1000 (then one of the baddest sport bikes going) and a Z51 Corvette on a couple of different race tracks. On the tighter track the Corvette won due to better lateral acceleration (near 1.0 vs. 0.85 for the Yamaha). On the longer track the FZR smoked the Corvette with its vastly superior acceration.

There's really no need to turn this into a car vs. bike thread. :>
Anyone who's ridden or raced a motorcycle needn't waste breath.

That said, Motorcyclist recently did a second version of that test,
where they raced a Z06 with a GSX-R1000.

They used highly skilled riders and drivers. (racers, all)

The poor Z06 was toast.

-Kysh

jbebernes
01-08-2003, 12:38 PM
Kysh, I bought my first bike in 1977 (a GS550) and have owned one ever since. I wasn't implying a car vs. bike theme...simply pointing out that while bikes are fast and nimble, they don't necessarily corner better than a car. This is especially true for less than expert riders.

And as far as car vs. bike? No contest - those cars lean the wrong way in the corners!

IWANTanRX8
01-08-2003, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Aesculapius
Why do I keep hearing Tron music in my head?


Who is your user?


Yeah, I was thinking the same thing!

Tron......when did that come out, like 1982? <sigh> I feel old now!

SPDFRK
01-08-2003, 11:00 PM
I think they had to put four wheels on that thing so it wouldn't do barrel rolls when you rev the V-10. I would really like to see it in action to see how it mechanically negotiates a turn I think I can tell how the front forks (if thats the proper term) work but am very intrigued on how the rear will react to compensate for lean angle.

infinitepat
01-09-2003, 12:39 AM
guys, thats not a motorcycle. Its a HTSOSPVD. (Half-the-speed-of-sound-personal-velocity-device) Any resmeblance to any form of transportain that came before it is purely coinicdental.