I gave it two days to make sure I wasn't delusional.

There is ZERO question that although I thought my motor was running beautifully before, it is running much better after the reflash.

If you haven't gotten it, go and get it.

I gave it two days to make sure I wasn't delusional.

There is ZERO question that although I thought my motor was running beautifully before, it is running much better after the reflash.

If you haven't gotten it, go and get it.

Are you talking about a newly issued Mazda flash or a third party flash (like Racing Beat)? I haven't received a notice from my dealer about a new flash. Mine is an 07. Please clarify. Thanks.

-Z

More detail please? What do you mean by "much better"?

I'm going in friday to have this done along with other things.

MSP16 is a dealership flash.

it came out like 6 months ago. haha.

what starts with p and rhymes with bebo ?

Are you talking about a newly issued Mazda flash or a third party flash (like Racing Beat)? I haven't received a notice from my dealer about a new flash. Mine is an 07. Please clarify. Thanks.

-Z


http://www.finishlineperformance.com/pdf/rx8/bulletin/01-013-08-1925.pdf

I gots an 08, it's the only reflash I have. I didn't drive it w/o the reflash long enough to notice a difference.

i need to get off my ass and get it done as well

LOL!!!!! wow i got this done when it was like two weeks old....

so this is for all 8's ? 2004-2008?

so this is for all 8's ? 2004-2008?

yes.

This be old. Mazda flashed me when I brought the car in for tranny issues last Feb/March when I was in the midst of Cobb testing.

I never noticed any difference.

Are you talking about a newly issued Mazda flash or a third party flash (like Racing Beat)? I haven't received a notice from my dealer about a new flash. Mine is an 07. Please clarify. Thanks.

-Z

MSP16 is a dealership flash.

it came out like 6 months ago. haha.

To be exact, this recall flash came out a year ago.

It turned into Recall about 6 months ago. (have enough tests)

They ALWAYS release flash ahead of time, "silently" update it to customer's computer when they're in for service to test out bugs and stuff. ITs just that most dealerships are loaded with idiots who never bother to check Mazda's tech site for updates.

i actually had a rough idle for about 4 weeks after the reflash, finally sorted itself out though.

I definitely procrastinated on this, unlike many other here, because I really didn't think it would make a difference.

how is it that people have not had this done yet??! you all fail!!

for the health of your motor, you should be ontop of this stuff especially when there were so many threads about it...

how is it that people have not had this done yet??! you all fail!!

for the health of your motor, you should be ontop of this stuff especially when there were so many threads about it...


I was going to get it done initially, but the dealer told me that it was only needed if you noticed a 'lack of power.' This was six months ago, and at a different dealer.

In fact, the TSB was originally titled 'Loss of Power.'

had my third engine because of problems not to be talked about but this reflash on the third engine is a bit of a kick in the but compaired to other flashes.the low end seems to be a bit nicer then the last two engines and the mid to top r.p.m. ranges after break in were in my personal notes is a very nice improvment that makes me like my 8 even more now.....2004 ....56,000 miles 6speed g.t. pkg...only mazdaspeed exhaust and custom intake with K&N drop in filter.i don't need anymore then what it has now!!i'm happy that they got it right after all!!thanks rothenthal mazda!

Made my car smoother, didn't help the mileage like some others experienced.

I was going to get it done initially, but the dealer told me that it was only needed if you noticed a 'lack of power.' This was six months ago, and at a different dealer.

In fact, the TSB was originally titled 'Loss of Power.'

that simply means the other "dealer" is loaded with idiots.

avoid them at all cost ! :)

that simply means the other "dealer" is loaded with idiots.

avoid them at all cost ! :)

Indeed.

The dealer that did the reflash is a brand new dealer. I have high hopes.

I just got this done last week along with getting the gaskets for my taillights replaced (no more fog!) and a voluntary emissions recall (replaced two spark plugs)

The car feels more responsive in the midrange, way better. My idle however, seems slightly rougher then previously. Hopefully it sorts it self out.

^ that voluntary "emissions recall" is from 2006... oh dear..

hey ,
If i was out of warranty how much would it cost to get this done at the dealership?
Or is this a service they have to provide a mazda car owner?..
thanks been thinking of getting it done..... just not sure on the cost

^ that voluntary "emissions recall" is from 2006... oh dear..

yeah and it was running just fine before i had that changed, ive only had the car now like 2 months, and i bought it from a Mazda dealership. They told me the car was completely up to date, i found out a week ago that it had two open recalls, so i had them done immediately.

hey ,
If i was out of warranty how much would it cost to get this done at the dealership?
Or is this a service they have to provide a mazda car owner?..
thanks been thinking of getting it done..... just not sure on the cost

As I read the TSB, they're supposed to check and do it to every RX-8 that they get their hands on, even ones that come in for routine maintenance, so it ought to be free.

Next time I get an oil change I'm going to bring a copy of the TSB along and ask if they've done it. My dealer never puts the stickers on, but they do track things.

Ken

As I read the TSB, they're supposed to check and do it to every RX-8 that they get their hands on, even ones that come in for routine maintenance, so it ought to be free.

Next time I get an oil change I'm going to bring a copy of the TSB along and ask if they've done it. My dealer never puts the stickers on, but they do track things.

Ken

k thanks.. I will look into then

question...

okee so i was just wondering if all rx-8 are eligible for the reflash?
i was looking at the bulletien on finishlineperformance and i noticed that my VIN number is part of the bulletien, does that mean i'm ineligible to get my '8 reflashed?

question...

okee so i was just wondering if all rx-8 are eligible for the reflash?
i was looking at the bulletien on finishlineperformance and i noticed that my VIN number is part of the bulletien, does that mean i'm ineligible to get my '8 reflashed?

either call in to a dealership, OR stop by, and they will run your VIN to see what open recalls you have out for your car.

Boy I gotta check now. I dont know if mine has this or not.

yeah got mine a few months ago had a very low idle (like 600rpms) for a week but worked itself out and still runs like a charm

i am eligable but they told me i wouldnt need if it only if i had a check engine light dose that sound right

i am eligable but they told me i wouldnt need if it only if i had a check engine light dose that sound right

no

tell whoever said that to kiss my ass.

the whole point of MSP16 is to treat the cause before it create problem(s)

Go get it. it's free.

^+1 the MSP16 is free

will i need this if im getting my 8 custom tuned?

no

tell whoever said that to kiss my ass.

the whole point of MSP16 is to treat the cause before it create problem(s)

Go get it. it's free.

cool i am gonna get it done tomarrow then

my car feels the same after i got it done..

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the whole point of MSP16 is to treat the cause before it create problem(s)

...

qft.

I have the MM tune on my cobb and after i got this flash it felt peppier in mid range.. maybe im going crazy!!!

My AFR on Stock MSP16

13.5@ 3-5K rpm
11.1@ 6K RPm and up

On MM tune
14.5-14.9 @3-5K rpms roughly
12's@ around 6K rpm and up with it diping to 11.1 around 6.5 K rpm and going back up to 12's


Motor mounts were replaced soo that could be it??? its hard to tell but anyone who hasnt gotten this GET IT its very much worth it

Watch a year from now we'll see another flash from Mazda increasing OMP rate again.

I got the reflash a while ago. Oil consumption is odd. Before the flash every time I got my oil changed I was about ~1/2 quart low. Now its going through a quart every 2,000-3,000 miles.

When I was running Dino I changed my oil every 2,500 miles. Now on synthetic its every 5,000 miles.

I was reading on this I got an 04, and I've had it since 06. I don't remember having any pcm reflashes when it was under my possesion. I called Auburn Valley Mazda (WA) and they said that it's not mandatory and they'd have ot check it? I thought it was a recall and that they would know about it? It should be free right?

Yes it should be free.

04 with 40K miles - manual trans

What is the latest flash? I got mine done in Sept 08. Dealer said it was for 'improved performance'. Well, the performance did not improve (you can't get more torque out of a 1.3L rotary engine, period - and the thing always performed very well >4K rpm) but I lost 1.5 mpg and now I have this weird very high resonance vibration. The engine sounds more like Lauren Bacall than Beonce, if you know what I mean. A bit gravely. After running with this flash for 3K miles the vibration is now at a point to where at the end of my 30 minute morning commute my hands and feet feel like I've been in a low electrical field or something. Very strange buzzing sensation (and no I don't partake of any substance abuse during the commute).

Anyone else experience either the mpg drop or the weird sound/vibration situation?

^you already go the newest flash...all that vibration might be coming from a bad engine mount.

it is a recall, i had the dealer pull my recall history, noticed the 100k engine one on there too :)

the thing i am wondering is what is this doing exactly?

is it leaning things out and telling the oil metering system to spit more in? i dunno...someone on here has to know

I brought my car in today for an oil change, and got the MSP16 flash for FREE. Since its a recall, you get it even if you are out of warranty. The service mgr was nice and asked first before doing it...I guess some don't want it.

It did seem to run a little more smooth afterward, but I think a lot of that could have been in my head. Just like it feels your car is faster when its clean!

Hey guys, does this apply to Australian 8's? I have an '04.
Next question, is there amy other way to tell if l've received the flash?

Cheers.

I brought my car in today for an oil change, and got the MSP16 flash for FREE. Since its a recall, you get it even if you are out of warranty. The service mgr was nice and asked first before doing it...I guess some don't want it.

It did seem to run a little more smooth afterward, but I think a lot of that could have been in my head. Just like it feels your car is faster when its clean!

I took my RX8 in yesterday for some check engine light problem and they had to order a udpated fuel filler pipe. However, they did the msp16 update.

I think the car is slightly faster now but I can't really tell.

^you already go the newest flash...all that vibration might be coming from a bad engine mount.

Bingo! Broken front motor mount. Got it in with 1 day left on the factory warrenty.

WOrked fine for 1 day - then a vibration came back. Not as bad, but definately there. I am guessing that with the first one broken for a month or more, it may have stressed the others and with a new front, another one let go. Or they did not torque the nuts down enough.

This car is getting to be a hassle - in the shop 6 times in the past 3 months. Anyone want to buy a gently used RX-8? haha

I just got this done over the weekend. Ever since then I've been accidentally slipping my tires a lot more than usual, there does seem to be a little more power. That, or my right foot suddenly got heavier. Too early to tell on the mileage. Car was running just fine before the flash, rock solid at idle.