View Full Version : MS and AEM CAI warning to all!!


Thumper3322
10-08-2008, 11:18 AM
Thought I would also share this with my canadian friends in case you haven't seen the thread.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=158129

Footman
10-08-2008, 11:24 AM
LOLOLOLOL........ I must say... that was some good brotherhood of the rotary display that day... Everyone contributed and helped out, it was great.

Thumper3322
10-08-2008, 12:26 PM
It was and I really appreciated everyone's help!!

Thanks again!

rotarygreg
10-08-2008, 12:34 PM
thats good because now you see who your working with i guess. i was in a car club once, not for very long because the people just werent that friendly...i got the feeling if a situation like this came up, i would be left in the parking lot by myself while the others went off to the cruise. I was also in another club that ive made some real life long friends in. friend of mine was driving on a long weekend and his camshaft broke, called me during thanksgiving dinner, i put my fork down, pulled the cam from my spare engine, drove 1.5hrs to his place where he had the car towed and spent the next couple hours installing it. and he did the same for me a couple weeks after that, i hit a curb and turned my strut and control arm into pretzles. he was at my place with all kinds of suspension parts from his personally inventory, didnt leave my place until like midnight on a weekday. thats what car clubs are all about. im glad to see that this is the sort where you can count on your local chapter to help out. :) glad shes back up and running

Greg

Thumper3322
10-08-2008, 12:39 PM
Thanks rotarygreg! Yup it is all about the brotherhood, and this club seems to have a great one!

Neo
10-08-2008, 12:53 PM
The majority of Rotor heads get together when one of our own is down for the count.

We can't count a successful rotary cruise without one of us having a small mishap or technical failure. lol :)

I can't wait for the next event!

prospectjtaz
10-08-2008, 12:58 PM
Footman, didnt u do car washes last year with the CAI on?

I remember you posted on going to the Sunoco at Bayview and 7, they gave you top wash for X amount?

Footman
10-08-2008, 01:10 PM
Yes, the Sunoco at Hwy 7 and Yonge is a TOUCHFREE and RAIL FREE wash system.

That system, I put my stamp of approval for autowash even with MS CAI on. That's a little out of the way for Thumper to use, but for anyone else around the area. That one is safe to use. I use it once a month during the winter. They are runned by indian people, I had a friendly chat with the owner one day. He says he'll offer $10 CASH price for top of the line wash at that location. (Regular price $13.99 + tax)

Thumper3322
10-08-2008, 01:19 PM
There is a shell one north of me I use to use, no rails at all. I am interested in trying it, but don't want to go thru that again in case of the same thing happening....what to do :scratchhe

Footman
10-08-2008, 01:25 PM
Take a standard size plastic bag from supermarkets, wrap over CAI sock, and tie simple LOOSE knot before entering.

Thumper3322
10-08-2008, 01:34 PM
Take a standard size plastic bag from supermarkets, wrap over CAI sock, and tie simple LOOSE knot before entering.

Thought about that, but the engine can't breath?

REV-illusions
10-08-2008, 02:35 PM
you can only do the bag thing with washers that are on a track and the track goes staight out the other side of the wash.. the last thing ya wanna do is to have to run out in the car was to try and rip the bag off the filter before the next car is piling in.

You might wanna try and find a large plastic shower cap or something instead of just a bag... there's a better chance of it staying on with the elastic at the end..

Footman
10-08-2008, 02:49 PM
Thought about that, but the engine can't breath?

Hence a loose knot so it can breath.
Also with a railless and touchless carwash, you are the only car in the washbay. No one else is in there with you until you exit completely.

Neo
10-08-2008, 02:49 PM
How about everyone just do the K&N or Racing Beat intake?? lol ;)

Is the reason why I won't be getting the air intake for the Miata. It's the same setup as the 8. And since this thing is going to be seeing winter, I want it to be trouble free.

Footman
10-08-2008, 02:51 PM
Neo, I ran winter last year, trouble free... so did Eric. Okay not exactly trouble free, but my trouble was not from the design of the CAI, it was from an improper installation from the dealership.

Footman
10-08-2008, 02:53 PM
In spring 2009, I'll report to you my +5HP gain I will be having this winter from the 0 C Intake-air-temperatures :lol: hehehehehehe

REV-illusions
10-09-2008, 09:49 AM
How about everyone just do the K&N or Racing Beat intake?? lol ;)

Is the reason why I won't be getting the air intake for the Miata. It's the same setup as the 8. And since this thing is going to be seeing winter, I want it to be trouble free.

Meh dude.... meh. That's the first time I'd ever seen anything like that. I had a AEM CAI on my tib... the filter was right behind a massive air intake vent... went through the car wash without issues...

My guess for the issue was:
A) the filter is on the horizontal... so any water that gets on top of that sits there.
B) that $#@)(#^%(*@#$@$ sock just keeps the water in if some manages to get behind the it. Sure it's great for keeping the mist off the filter... but... mist isn't about to hurt the thing anyways. I freakin' went though like a roll of paper towel just pat trying the filter.. the paper towels were completely soaked after just pressing them against the filter (to the point that I could ring the water out of em).

Anyways... just guesses :)

Thumper3322
10-09-2008, 01:39 PM
you can only do the bag thing with washers that are on a track and the track goes staight out the other side of the wash.. the last thing ya wanna do is to have to run out in the car was to try and rip the bag off the filter before the next car is piling in.

You might wanna try and find a large plastic shower cap or something instead of just a bag... there's a better chance of it staying on with the elastic at the end..

How about everyone just do the K&N or Racing Beat intake?? lol ;)

Is the reason why I won't be getting the air intake for the Miata. It's the same setup as the 8. And since this thing is going to be seeing winter, I want it to be trouble free.

But doesn't sound as good!

Meh dude.... meh. That's the first time I'd ever seen anything like that. I had a AEM CAI on my tib... the filter was right behind a massive air intake vent... went through the car wash without issues...

My guess for the issue was:
A) the filter is on the horizontal... so any water that gets on top of that sits there.
B) that $#@)(#^%(*@#$@$ sock just keeps the water in if some manages to get behind the it. Sure it's great for keeping the mist off the filter... but... mist isn't about to hurt the thing anyways. I freakin' went though like a roll of paper towel just pat trying the filter.. the paper towels were completely soaked after just pressing them against the filter (to the point that I could ring the water out of em).

Anyways... just guesses :)

It was pretty wet lol!

prospectjtaz
10-09-2008, 02:32 PM
But doesn't sound as good!
It was pretty wet lol!

thats what she said

Thief
10-09-2008, 03:29 PM
thats what she said

Goddamnit you beat me to it.

Thumper3322
10-09-2008, 03:55 PM
Just the way I like my woman...loud and wet ;)

Thumper3322
10-23-2008, 04:24 PM
I think I'm gonna try a pizza box to shield it :)

REV-illusions
10-23-2008, 04:42 PM
I think I'm gonna try a pizza box to shield it :)

You laugh... there was a DIY for the 2nd gen which was pretty close to that :p

Smokin_LaLa
10-23-2008, 06:17 PM
Yes, the Sunoco at Hwy 7 and Yonge is a TOUCHFREE and RAIL FREE wash system.

That system, I put my stamp of approval for autowash even with MS CAI on. That's a little out of the way for Thumper to use, but for anyone else around the area. That one is safe to use. I use it once a month during the winter. They are runned by indian people, I had a friendly chat with the owner one day. He says he'll offer $10 CASH price for top of the line wash at that location. (Regular price $13.99 + tax)

Dude...is that the one that is right off Highway 7.....If thats the case that would be Sweet!!!!!!!!!

BlueEyes
10-23-2008, 07:10 PM
I have an AEM CAI on another car with one of their air bypass valves. It's supposed to prevent water from making it up the intake into the engine. I don't know how the 8's CAI is routed, but maybe worth a look. You just cut the intake and splice it in between the two pieces.

This is what it looks like:
http://www.iapdirect.com/images/T/airbypass.jpg

Footman
10-23-2008, 09:21 PM
Dude...is that the one that is right off Highway 7.....If thats the case that would be Sweet!!!!!!!!!


Yeah that one right off Hwy 7. Use it, their wash system is the cleanest one I've tried out of all the other gas stations.

BTW, were you on Major Mackenzie near Weston Rd. today around 5pm?

Gecko69
10-23-2008, 10:02 PM
The air bypass valve is a good idea.....when I had my CAI on I could go thru the sunoco touchless wash and be fine....however I had to drive gingerly as to not suck the water up the intake tube.....the car would sputter if I tried to rev hard after the wash...so I had to give it a while.....finally got rid of my stuff and before I got rid of the intake I got stuck in a 14 - 16 inch puddle after we had a flash flood here.....needless to say it was a long day.....but there is really nothing you can do about it.....as long as the filter is not dripping wet and not submerged you should " usually " be ok....just gotta be careful.

and yeah the sock does shit all!!!

REV-illusions
10-27-2008, 10:47 AM
only problem with the by pass is you pretty much loose the gains that from the CAI as a whole...

pbth ptbh