THERE IS NO COMPARISON.

G35C runs circles around the RX8...

And for 3k more, G35C please! :)

Seriously though, better power, better interior, better handling, better reliability, better highway gas mileage.

The RX8 just lagged at low RPM, you had to push it to like 5K to get good power. And although I was impressed by the interior of the RX8, when I saw the G35C interior, it just blew me away.

G35C here I comeeeeeeee!

Interesting?
A good friend has a 2003 G35C and I have to disagree. It does feel like it has more torque, but I have driven it more than once, and the 8 is just as fast, but doesn't feel that way. I currently have a 1.8T Jetta and we have stayed neck and neck at a light with his G35?. The one thing about the 8 is, it is deceiving as the power is so linear, and not like the grunt of a piston. But the G35 is a great car to, but there is no way it would run circles around the 8.......just my opinion after driving both.
Power is much more smooth than the G35, with better feel behind the wheel. The 8 has to be reved like a s2000 to get power, but I think both cars are almost identical in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.

What I find entertaining is that he says the G35C has better handling... I think there are few people (and a lot of them are RX-car owners) that know great handling, from good handling, to crap handling. The G35C falls in that 'good' to even 'okay' handling bracket. Understeers like mad.

Also some people prefer being able to make use of the back seat because they aren't midgets.

Granted it's different strokes for different folks, but I always laugh when people come running here to tell us how bad our car sucks.

Go tell that to Car and Driver and all the other magazine editors that would take the RX-8 over a Nissan 350Z or G35C. We bought our car because we know it's the best. That's why we don't come to Nissan/G35 forums to explain why we did so. And when you do, it's always entertaining and at the same time... very sad.

A newish forum member (AlexCisneros) from the autox I am going to just returned his Audi S6 (all wheel drive) and got an RX-8. Says it's slower, but the handling is awesome (I think it was an S6, maybe he can chime in?). I have not heard a single person drive a G35C and say it had better handling than the 8, and form my own test drives I agree.

After test driving the G35C I found it to be in a completely different class than the RX-8 and at least two generations behind it mechanically.
Turn the steering wheel in a RX-8 and you get almost instant response. Do the same in the G35C and the car rocks on rubber then responds. Note the same differences during acceleration and braking. The RX-8 just does what it's supposed to do without theatrics or sloppiness.
Put the sales person in the back seat (the G35C) and check out the headroom. Sit in the back seat of the RX-8 and note the difference.
Feel the difference in the clutch.
Note the difference in the cockpit. Most everything in the RX-8 is rounded that can touch your body (that goes for the back seat also).
The RX-8 really is a world class vehicle that has no real competition.
The G35C is a very nice car but IMHO feels very dated in comparison to the RX-8.

Vince

Amen!

Originally posted by Genom
A newish forum member (AlexCisneros) from the autox I am going to just returned his Audi S6 (all wheel drive) and got an RX-8. Says it's slower, but the handling is awesome (I think it was an S6, maybe he can chime in?). I have not heard a single person drive a G35C and say it had better handling than the 8, and form my own test drives I agree.

Well it would most likeky be the RS6 if it's new, which is an 80k car. How do you return an 80k car anyhow?

well, thats your opinion guys...

been a member here for over a year, but time to retire....and move on to bigger and faster ;) things

enjoy your 8's people...its a great car, but just not my car.

ok good luck cya.

i will soon find out...... Im planning to test drive the G 35 myself. I already test drove thew 8 and I gotta say it left me sppechless. I love that car !!

The G35 is more like a luxury cruiser while the 8 is more akin to a zippy sportscar. Both great cars for people looking for different things in a car. If you want a great engine with nice power at all areas of the rev range, lots of pull on highways, and more luxurious interior the G35 is a damn good choice.

well, G35 is too much of a pig, and looks heavy, too. and also acts heavy... plus i just really can't stand its interior, you could say it has better more expensive material and is more luxurious, but i just don't find it attractive at all. the fact that they pitted it as the skyline replacement really disappointed me

Originally posted by IkeWRX
Well it would most likeky be the RS6 if it's new, which is an 80k car. How do you return an 80k car anyhow?

I mis-stated it I guess. The lease was up is all.

Originally posted by chinx
well, G35 is too much of a pig, and looks heavy, too. and also acts heavy...

Actually, it weighs 500 lb more than the RX8. This guy is obviously smoking something if he thinks the G35 handles better.

It is a little chunkier, but still enough for a nice sport/luxury combo I think. I think it would be a slightly more comfortable purchase as a new car, with infiniti value & service behind it, plus added comfort with how widely-used the engine is when compared to the Renesis. But if you're in the 8 either for the rotary, or because no other rwd sporting beast is as nimble as the 8, then these things probably win out in the purchase thought process.

Isn't Tupak 16? It'd be a little weird seeing a 16-yr-old in a G35 coupe (I guess in an 8 too, although 26k is one thing, 34+k another)

TuPak,
Enjoy your G35C. It sure appears to be the best choice for you. I am certainly enjoying thoroughly my choice - the RX-8.

Originally posted by TuPaK
THERE IS NO COMPARISON.

G35C runs circles around the RX8...

And for 3k more, G35C please! :)

Seriously though, better power, better interior, better handling, better reliability, better highway gas mileage.

The RX8 just lagged at low RPM, you had to push it to like 5K to get good power. And although I was impressed by the interior of the RX8, when I saw the G35C interior, it just blew me away.

G35C here I comeeeeeeee!

I got to say it:

RX-8 Fully Loaded: 35K
G35 Fully Loaded: 37K
Having a LIFE: PRICELESS!

When I went into the dealership to look for the 8 I had a VPP number in my hand for the G35c. I had to come up with the decision as to which one to get.

The 8 got me sold on the rear seating. Putting a 17-mo old and her baby seat into the back of the G35c proved to me a challenge to me. The baby seat fit perfectly in the rear of the 8. Although I have a minivan already, the 8 gives me the option of taking my wife and my daughter with me.

Originally posted by blizz81
Isn't Tupak 16? It'd be a little weird seeing a 16-yr-old in a G35 coupe (I guess in an 8 too, although 26k is one thing, 34+k another) First of all you idiot, im not 16, don't be a little jealous sob.

second, no...not 26k, you are smokin it. If you want a decent RX8 with a GT package your gonna pay at least 31,000.

You guys are seriously haters, I'm sorry to say. If anyone opposes your RX8, you guys get so defensive, chill out. It's just a car. Be glad, you won't see me on the road in an 8. The roads here are too steep anyways.

I'm wasting my time here, anyways. For those that helped me throught my search, thanks, you know who you are.

But for all you haters....i can get free tissues from work anytime.

Originally posted by TuPaK
been a member here for over a year, but time to retire....and move on

Originally posted by TuPaK
I'm wasting my time here, anyways. For those that helped me throught my search, thanks, you know who you are.


Don't go away mad....just go away

P.S. Take Ike with you and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out

I'm confused....TuPak says we hate him, but I doubt any of us even know him. Yet, he's the one calling us names...??????

Truth told, if he's as young as we suspect, I doubt seriously, he's going to be driving a G35 or an RX8 or anything else short of the well-used Saturn Mummy and Daddy buy for him.

Before I bought the RX8, I drove the G35C and the 350Z extensively. The 350Z is marginally quicker than the RX8 and the G35C is about on par with the RX8. Can't compare the ride, handling, high quality of the RX8 to either of those cars. Even the interior of the Infiniti pales by comparison.

After getting the "buyback" letter from Mazda, I redrove both the 350Z and the G35C. Felt stronger the 2nd time around that the RX8 was the better car. As others have pointed out, the G/Z feel way too heavy compared to the RX8. They also feel like you have to "manhandle" them to get them to do what you want them to do.

The one thing I do agree with, is he's wasting his time here. So why bother (unless he does have the RX8 envy)?

Originally posted by TuPaK
First of all you idiot, im not 16, don't be a little jealous sob.

second, no...not 26k, you are smokin it. If you want a decent RX8 with a GT package your gonna pay at least 31,000.

You guys are seriously haters, I'm sorry to say. If anyone opposes your RX8, you guys get so defensive, chill out. It's just a car. Be glad, you won't see me on the road in an 8. The roads here are too steep anyways.

I'm wasting my time here, anyways. For those that helped me throught my search, thanks, you know who you are.

But for all you haters....i can get free tissues from work anytime.

What's your problem?? you are the one that didn't measure words saying something stupid like: "It'll run circles around the RX8..."

Maybe you are no 16, but you don't seem to know how to measure your words: what did you expect?? Oh! yes, it'll draw circles 'round the 8 anytime! good luck!

If you had taken the approach that someone else did, who changed from an 8 to a 350Z, and was polite, and constructive in his comparisson...well, you could have left in good terms with all (most) of us.

Anyways, enjoy it. Don't be a hater yourself! and be happy. I have no doubts the G will give you plenty of satisfaction. It's an excellent vehicle.

Originally posted by TuPaK
THERE IS NO COMPARISON.

G35C runs circles around the RX8...

And for 3k more, G35C please! :)

Seriously though, better power, better interior, better handling, better reliability, better highway gas mileage.

The RX8 just lagged at low RPM, you had to push it to like 5K to get good power. And although I was impressed by the interior of the RX8, when I saw the G35C interior, it just blew me away.

G35C here I comeeeeeeee!

I agree that the G35 is one fine car, BUT it does not have a better interior(allthough I think the leather is better) and handling is not even close to the 8. Reliability is up in the air, Iknow there is an engine recall right now. I have heard that the gas milage is as bad as the 8, but I have no personal knowledge there.

Anyway, good luck with your new car, I really do not think you can go wrong with it.

congrats on the g
my second choice

Originally posted by TuPaK
First of all you idiot, im not 16, don't be a little jealous sob.

second, no...not 26k, you are smokin it. If you want a decent RX8 with a GT package your gonna pay at least 31,000.

You guys are seriously haters, I'm sorry to say. If anyone opposes your RX8, you guys get so defensive, chill out. It's just a car. Be glad, you won't see me on the road in an 8. The roads here are too steep anyways.

I'm wasting my time here, anyways. For those that helped me throught my search, thanks, you know who you are.

But for all you haters....i can get free tissues from work anytime.

Sorry, it was PoLaK that was 16. You both have 5-letter "ak"-ending alternating-caps nicks, so sue me.

*shrug*...if I end up buying an 8, it won't be a GT package. I'd be satisfied with the base + one or two options. It would be a car more for sport so the extras wouldn't matter to me.

To tell you the truth, if I had just a bit more oomph in my projected budget, I'd probably take the G35C myself. I guess by commending it's luxury sport blend and infiniti as a company, I'm a "hater".

:wave smiley:

Originally posted by Genom
I mis-stated it I guess. The lease was up is all.

If that's the case it wasn't an RS6, maybe just an A6?

I own the G35C, I test drove the RX-8 and poked around quite a bit. I also AutoX my car and witnessed the RX-8 on the same track. I gotta say........

IMO

I like the ride quality of the G35C better than RX-8 (more solid)
I like the engine of the G35C better than the RX-8 (more torque)
I like the interior of the G35C better than the RX-8 (more solid)
I have been getting 27+mpg on highways and 18mpg in cities under normal traffic conditions..... blah blah blah

------BUT-----

The RX-8 is more tossable than the G35C hands down. The RX-8 is a better drift car, handles quicker, feels lighter and I can't stress enough the importantce of nimbleness in a sport car. I can match the performance of a RX-8 on AutoX track, but by the end of the day my front tires would be a lot more beat up than the 8. We can argue with other points all day, but the RX-8 definitely has the edge on the handling if you ask me. (note to RX-8 owners, get new tires, stock tires on the RX-8 really limits its potential)

Also, you might want to check local newspapers. Here in NE, a 6MT RX-8 with CD can be had for less than $25k easy. Recently they started the $280/mo special and $2700 off MSRP + free CD changer. If you don't need leather and other mumble jumbles, $2500 is one hell of a deal for a car like the RX-8.

If I'm not mistaken. Car and Driver did a comparison test with the g35 ,Mustang cobra and the Rx8. The g35 was .4 second quicker to 60 and .3 second quicker in the quarter mile. When they did the road test. The sraight line advantage the g35 had evaporated. That show how much better the RX8 handle than the g35. Oh, they pick the RX8 over the other two and so did we.

The only problem I have with the G35 coupe is the vibration in the shifter, other than that it is very nice.

Originally posted by Hanzo
The only problem I have with the G35 coupe is the vibration in the shifter, other than that it is very nice. The vibration on the RX-8's shifter isn't that great either.

I don't like the shifter in the G35C but as Skyline has said that over time it feels more 'worn in'. I can't speak on that, but from when i drove it, it was quite 'notchy'.

But different strokes for different folks and I do like the G35C a lot... it just wasn't the car for me at this time, specially since the rear seat is useless and I'd like to have something useful in a car. The interior is more luxurious, has more low-end torque which is nice I suppose... though I think I've gotten used to the RX-8's torque and power delivery and grown quite fond of it :)

Originally posted by Hercules
The vibration on the RX-8's shifter isn't that great either.



I think I'm the only one who likes the vibration from the shifter......I've loved that feel every since I drove my friends S2000 back a few years back. That feeling is the feeling of a great tranny giving you feedback directly from the tranny itself! How much more can you get connected to your car than your shifter snicking into each gear, feeling it actually get caught into gear rather than having a boring, lifeless shifter than gives no feedback and feels ambiguously in gear.

Originally posted by djmano
I think I'm the only one who likes the vibration from the shifter......I've loved that feel every since I drove my friends S2000 back a few years back. That feeling is the feeling of a great tranny giving you feedback directly from the tranny itself! How much more can you get connected to your car than your shifter snicking into each gear, feeling it actually get caught into gear rather than having a boring, lifeless shifter than gives no feedback and feels ambiguously in gear.

Sorry but I drove 2 S2000s and their shifter is a lot smoother than the G. I am not talking about the gated feel but the vibration while it is in gear.

Originally posted by Hercules
The vibration on the RX-8's shifter isn't that great either.

I don't like the shifter in the G35C but as Skyline has said that over time it feels more 'worn in'. I can't speak on that, but from when i drove it, it was quite 'notchy'.

But different strokes for different folks and I do like the G35C a lot... it just wasn't the car for me at this time, specially since the rear seat is useless and I'd like to have something useful in a car. The interior is more luxurious, has more low-end torque which is nice I suppose... though I think I've gotten used to the RX-8's torque and power delivery and grown quite fond of it :)

Trust me the vibration is a lot less in the RX8 than the G35 coupe.

I think I'm the only one who likes the vibration from the shifter

That's the price you pay for direct connection. Personally, I love the feel my shifter gives me:o

I have the G35C, I test drove the RX-8.... Handling better? I don't know about that, the RX-8 is easier to toss around, the G35C holds the road better on the curves. The RX-8 handles switchbacks and turns in better, the G35C holds the corner and exits the corner better. The RX-8 is more neutral but it also handles more twitchy than the Infiniti.

Just as fast? The G35C will eat RX-8s all day on stop lights unless you care to rev up the Renesis to some stratosphere rev and then drop the clutch. Without smoking tires or peel out, the G35C will win. When I have some fun with my friend's RX-8, if he manages to keep up I can usually smell his clutch at the next stop. Still, cornering is where the fun's at, drag racing is for people with short attention span and lives on the edge of the speedometer.

Weigh: Let's face it, the G35C is too heavy by at least 500lbs..... and the RX-8 is also too heavy. Turn in, braking and slalom are very hard of the G35C because of the extra weight. At the same time a torque-less 1.3L rotary with 2 backseats makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. A Scion tC has more torque than a RX-8!? What in the world!? If the backseats are useless in a pure sport car then get rid of them and shave another 200-300lbs off the RX-8. Modern sport cars utilizes more and more weight saving material through every generation and somehow the weight just keeps growing.

Hey,
well no offense but i've driven the G35, and the rx8 is faster.
To further support my claim, yesterday i raced a Z, and I completely vaporized him. In the first leg before I could get the rev's up he was a car length ahead, when we were in 2nd, I was at 6.5 Krpm, when he had to shift to third, in that delay my 8 continued revving to 8K +RPM then I did a quick shift to 3rd, at which point I was nearly 1.5 car lenghts ahead of him, and then it was over, no way he could catch me.

BTW. we both burned rubber in 1st and 2nd gear shifts.

So there, that's my opinion.

8 wins hands down in speed and handling. Obviously you have to push the 8's rpms up in comparison with a regular engine. that's how the renesis is designed- apples and oranges. No doubts about that.

The rx8 is supernatural and its moves are magical....anyone who denies this a: hasn't driven it; or is b: jealous and angry for buying the wrong car.

JL, keep dreaming, it is well established that the G35 and the Z are faster, especially when the noob RX-8 owner doesn't redline each gear, and even moreso when there is no streetracing on RX-8 club... :p Skyline and everyone else doing it lately, STOP BUMPING YEAR OLD THREADS!

Curse these old threads! If you keep bumping these threads, I'm going to resort back to my old sig.

http://www2.hkedcity.net/citizen_files/aa/nd/id1025/myresources/200405/157276/LV3.gif

.....~

G35 coupe manual tranny

Performance
0-60 mph: 6.0 sec

http://www.fast-autos.net/infiniti/infinitig35.html

Car and Driver Road test of 350Z

Publication Date Aug. 2002

0-60
(Track with 6 spd MT)
5.4 sec.
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/nissan/2003/z/performance/home.shtml

Rx8 Manaul Transmission 0 - 60 mph [secs] 5.9

http://mazda.jbcarpages.com/RX8/2004/index4.php
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With those numbers a .5 second difference it's hard to say with certainty that the 350 z is faster. In fact, that doestn' necessarily mean anything.

The point is what happens after you get to 60mph, when the other guy is shifting and you still have 2K rpm to go without redlining..???

anyways, i don't know why all the animosity..the thread may not be new to you but it is to me, so if you don't own this site, i wouldn't diss someone who displays interest in a topic that obviously is not over.

Secondly having to red line or do whatever, is part of the design of the rx-8. The specifications of it's performance dileneate and lean towards it being used at higher rpm's and with different racing techniques. SO.... if winning a race means you have to redline a motor which has a. been proven to be able to withstand a much higher redline limit, and b. which is designed to be revved higher, is definately not a negative thing, and definately doens't mean it's an improper technique or cheating.

If an athlete wins a race, it doesn't matter which athlete exerted more effort or put more strain on his body all that matters is who crosses the finish line first.

And regarding your comment about me street racing, where in my post did i say it was a public street? Maybe you can take your paranoia for a spin in the RX-8....and vent a bit.

Oh yea, and to the comment about a newbie rx8 drivers..........well what power of rationalization did you use which failed to alert you that it's possible that a person who just started driving an rx8 has actually been driving in harder conditions for a long time, and has supersport motorcyle racing experience (vtr1000F firestorm, or superhawk for you americans). What type of insecurity would you be experiencing to need to disqualify or belittle someone who is attempting to share their input, and to make this a better site?

Later...

I drove both and the G35 was nice, but I didnt feel like I was driving a sports car. The 8 just feels right- even though you doo have to rev it to get moving- which is actually just plain fun.

rx8 owns. g35 is overplayed. g35 isnt practical. g35 is expensive. g35 SUCKS

simple... rx8 owns

i feel sad for the thread starter.

came out w/ a proud statement of g35 and we all beat it down w/ our rx8 prideful comments...

eehhh WHO CARESS


RX8 OWNS!

g35 SUCKS
Not really.

rx8 owns. g35 is overplayed. g35 isnt practical. g35 is expensive. g35 SUCKS

simple... rx8 owns

agreed, agreed, agreed, agreed, I don't know about that

agreed.

only reason why the G35 feels like it holds the road better is because its alot heavier.

:)