I was just wondering if there is a real performance chip, and not that crap on ebay. All my friends bought serious performance chips for their cars( audi A4, s2000, BMW 3 Series) and it really does seem to work, just wondering if there are legit chips for the 8.

Most people just call MazdaManiac and buy a COBB Accessport, but I've heard that they actually take away 1.785 hp, and 0.03 lb/ft of Torque.

I recommend to all who ask that instead, you install one of THESE (http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=9)

Happy Motoring!

Most people just call MazdaManiac and buy a COBB Accessport, but I've heard that they actually take away 1.785 hp, and 0.03 lb/ft of Torque.

I recommend to all who ask that instead, you install one of THESE (http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=9)

Happy Motoring!

Really? Because I've heard completely differently. From what I've heard, the Accessport delivers a good 5-10hp across the board and 2-3mpg.

I was just wondering if there is a real performance chip, and not that crap on ebay. All my friends bought serious performance chips for their cars( audi A4, s2000, BMW 3 Series) and it really does seem to work, just wondering if there are legit chips for the 8.There isn't a plug in chip for the RX8. The options you have are piggyback controllers (eg: emanage, intercepter-x) or reprogramers (eg: Racing Beat, Cobb AccessPort). All of these units has some sort of base tune available that can be customized to your car. The Racing Beat is a fixed tune that requires you to remove the PCM and send it to them to be reflashed.

Really? Because I've heard completely differently. From what I've heard, the Accessport delivers a good 5-10hp across the board and 2-3mpg.Sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet. That is what he was trying to convey. He may have also been trying to tell the OP to read more and search before posting.

Really? Because I've heard completely differently. From what I've heard, the Accessport delivers a good 5-10hp across the board and 2-3mpg.

Just look at the numbers he's quoting. I think he's being facetious - the OP didn't do any research.

I mean I already have the Pettit SC and the Interceptor X, but I was just looking for another way to put some more power into my beauty... thanks anyway for the feedback.

Ahhhh. That explains why you are looking for more power. I have some bad news for you though.

Most people just call MazdaManiac and buy a COBB Accessport, but I've heard that they actually take away 1.785 hp, and 0.03 lb/ft of Torque.

Damn it! I hate when that happens. I needed that extra .005 HP!

I recommend to all who ask that instead, you install one of THESE (http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=9)

Happy Motoring!

I have one of those. Doesn't seem to work correctly, though!

Ahhhh. That explains why you are looking for more power. I have some bad news for you though.

That's just plain mean! I lol'ed.

I mean I already have the Pettit SC and the Interceptor X, but I was just looking for another way to put some more power into my beauty... thanks anyway for the feedback.

have you called pettit about their flash?

have you called pettit about their flash?

No, but thanks for the heads up! i'll do that asap

Most people just call MazdaManiac and buy a COBB Accessport, but I've heard that they actually take away 1.785 hp, and 0.03 lb/ft of Torque.

I recommend to all who ask that instead, you install one of THESE (http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=9)

Happy Motoring!



haha, their superior ones are superior to the inferior ones, I love the description in that link.

when the COBB accessport is unplugged the changes it made still stay right? is there a way to get the settings back to stock?

when the COBB accessport is unplugged the changes it made still stay right? is there a way to get the settings back to stock?

Yes.

Alright, lets recap here...

You've been on this board since March 2006
You have a Supercharger
You run the Int-x
Yet you STILL don't know that there is NOT a 'chip' for our car?! :banghead:

^ Hahahahahahaha

I am just woundering if in the last two years have there been any real chips made for the rx8 or dose anyone have a review on one?:smoker:

I am just woundering if in the last two years have there been any real chips made for the rx8 or dose anyone have a review on one?:smoker:
You have been around here for almost a year. You should know the answer to that question.

I know that there are a lot of people in the pockets of a select few vendors and hate on every thing that seems to take money from their pockets(such as my exhaust) and if there is a good chip out their this could put a pain in the side of thous that sell certain programmers around here. These chips could just as well be junk and I know there has to at least one member here that rolled the dice on one I am just trying to find an unbiased review:suspect:

mmmmm performance Chip. . . .

http://secondratesnacks.com/images/dorito.jpg

I know that there are a lot of people in the pockets of a select few vendors and hate on every thing that seems to take money from their pockets(such as my exhaust) and if there is a good chip out their this could put a pain in the side of thous that sell certain programmers around here. These chips could just as well be junk and I know there has to at least one member here that rolled the dice on one I am just trying to find an unbiased review:suspect:
There is no "chip" that you can replace. It is all reprogramming the ECU.

mmmmm performance Chip. . . .

http://secondratesnacks.com/images/dorito.jpg
See now there is one fine chip and its cheap:yumyum:

There will never be a "chip" for the 8. The vendors on the boards here are basically the only vendors in the world that are willing to do serious R+D for the 8. Lots of people can make some assumptions that Chip A will work for a certain range of vehicles, Chip B for another range, etc... The 8 is unique. ECU wise, it isn't even like the RX-7s. Anything made for the 8 will only be applicable for the 8, and that REALLY drives up research and development costs. Alot. And there isn't a broad market for it even among 8s.

IF by some chance hell freezes over, and a chip is produced, it will probably be $700+ and likely be inferior to your factory tune. You can't just "trick the sensor" on 8s like you can on piston cars. It's already close enough to the edge from the factory that you can easily trick it into critical failure.

Race teams spend $30,000 or so for an ECU replacement and usually can still only get into the 225whp range, though a few have claimed 230 or so.

Get THAT 'chip' if you really want it.

Point made about the chip thats all I needed thanks:bowdown:

Another clarification. The ECU reprogramming devices out there (COBB namely), have to hack the ECU, unscramble it, and figure out how to change it as needed. That took quite a while for the 8. Long enough, with a low enough return on investment, that they have decided not to even try for the 2009+, since they have to go back through all of that again.

And that is manually adjusting the ECU specific to that car.

A 'chip' is a universal change which would be made to any car under any condition that it is applied to. There simply isn't enough room for improvement in the 8's ECU for a universal adjustment to work for everyone. Alot of people run too lean, alot run too rich, very few run just right. As an example, my friend got the AP, and got his 8 tuned, and it brought his 8 up to the point mine was running at from the factory. And it was faint ECU variations to do it.

A universal chip will never happen for the same reason a bolt-on intake or exhaust will never produce real power. The 8 is tuned that good from the factory. Not perfect granted, and some purist will call the factory tune terrible, but we are a few small hp% off the optimum, rather than 20-30% off the optimum like manufacturers do for piston cars.

and if there is a good chip out their this could put a pain in the side of thous that sell certain programmers around here.

Ouch. lol

You basically have two options.

1. Buy AP have have a tuner produce maps for your car.
2. Get the Racing Beat PCM flash

get a 20b and work from there...

so by reading all these comments there is NO way to get any more power from the 8 at all?
I'm a new rx8 driver and I've had it for maybe 9 months. trying to get information from smart and experienced people about this car.

so by reading all these comments there is NO way to get any more power from the 8 at all?
I'm a new rx8 driver and I've had it for maybe 9 months. trying to get information from smart and experienced people about this car.

From my new owner thread: http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=202454
Power Modifications:
From the factory, the 8 is VERY well tuned (mechanically). There are only 2 things you can do for easy power:
- AccessPORT custom tune to remove some of the "safe" parts of the tune
- Removing the naturally restrictive catalytic converter.

Doing the rest of the common upgrades piston cars get (intake, exhaust, pulleys, etc...) nets you MAYBE 5hp. MAYBE. Depending on the brand, alot of them are inferior to the OEM stock system, and plenty cause you to lose power.

If you want power, you have to go forced induction, turbo or supercharger. And you need a starting amount of about $8,000 to $10,000 for a complete set up. If you find what you think is a "deal", please don't get fooled. If you spent $1,500 on your turbo system, you will still spend $8,000 to $10,000 in modifications, errors, swapping parts, getting stuff to finally work right, and probably an engine replacement along the way. If you dont have an AccessPORT, you have very little chance in making it work.

If you don't go that route, then with a factory engine, new or reman, you will be capped to about 200whp. Getting a rebuild with proper hand-cut seals for proper seal tolerances is one of the key points needed for decent N/A gains, and it isn't cheap, and won't 'give' you lots of power, it will just reduce your wasted power. A proper engine rebuild gets your N/A limit (as it stands as of this post) to about 220whp. Spend $50k+ like race teams do ($30k ECU, hundreds of hours on the dyno with custom tune exhaust, really frequent engine rebuilds), and you can get over that, but we aren't sure exactly how far. Not far though. 222whp is the highest posted, and it was from a race team. (And no, Jedi54's 1,000hp dyno doesn't count, it was a software error in calculation). The highest non-race N/A dyno was made in the winter of 2011, Shadycrew31 posted 218whp, with the biggest piece of that being an engine rebuild by hand with incredibly close seal clearances.

Don't get fooled by any "chips", ebay or otherwise. There is no "chip" for the RX-8 that will do anything beneficial. The best you can hope for is nothing at all...a costly metallic sticker on your ECU. You can easily fry your ECU with one though, and that is $1,600+. The only flawless method of improving the ECU is through an AccessPORT. Hymee's ProTuner software and brick is also capable, but there are still bugs at the time of this post, and it is possible to wipe your ECU accidently. The piggybacks such as Interceptor-X and GReddy's E-Manager are terrible for the RX-8. You can get it to run, kinda. But you won't be making more power than stock.

So the statement "there is NO way to get any more power from the 8 at all?" is incorrect. But it's going to cost more per HP gain than what you may be used to seeing from other cars. Those cars get easy gains because the manufacturers left alot on the table right from the factory. Mazda didn't.

Those cars get easy gains because the manufacturers left alot on the table right from the factory. Mazda didn't.

Id say that pretty much sums it up!

Microtech.

Microtech.

lol

I'm Josh and I work at Pettit Racing. Give us a call and we will be happy to help. Thank you.

Interesting 5 month old bump...

I was following up on a post on Facebook from yesterday that was linked to this thread.

@RIWWP i know itz old but awesome post learned alott jus saying thanks for sharing ya knowledge i have nooo questions ive been out jus comming back had similar questions

Definitely does not qualify as an awesome thread.