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PoolShark 04-08-2008, 10:51 AM i've been thinking of the RX-8 and the Nissan 350Z for quite some time now. i am leaning towards the 350Z simply because i am afraid to buy an RX-8. here's what scares me about the RX-8:
1) HAVING to add oil
2) Flooding issues
3) Seems like there's alot of people with things going wrong once they hit 50,000 miles
sad thing is, i totally prefer the looks of the RX-8 over the 350Z. but the RX-8 just scares the heck out of me. my luck usually runs bad, and i dont have any mechanical skills. if anything goes wrong, it could get very, very expensive for me.
sorry, at this point, i am just afraid to buy one, dont trust its reliability.
Mike
Loogootee, IN
rglbegl 04-08-2008, 10:53 AM 1) If you cant ad oil to a car, you are a moron
2) They do not flood anymore
3) Havent you seen all the 100,000+ mile threads?
Don't be sorry or afraid.
Wanna play a few rounds of 9ball?
Rems31 04-08-2008, 10:55 AM Didn't you make that clear in 2 other threads that you started??
CyberPitz 04-08-2008, 10:57 AM 1.) You add a quart of oil ever couple fill ups, hardly an inconvenience.
2.) The flooding problem is mostly resolved. Just don't start it/shut it off fast to be sure...
3.) I've seen plenty of cars over 50k miles. Just get a newer one with lower miles, maintain it better, and you're good to go.
I'm up for some 9 ball!
JRichter 04-08-2008, 10:59 AM 1. Why is this scary?
2. Blown way out of proportion. It only has a chance of flooding if you start it cold, then immediately shut down while still cold. Mines never flooded.
3. What seems, and what's true is very different things.
All these issues have been brought up a millions times a week and all have been addressed, answered, beat to death. This biggest thing that scares off potential RX-8 buyers is LACK OF KNOWLEDGE!.
Test drive a Z, then test drive an 8. But definitely do some research on an 8 to suspend your presumptions.
Leesha 04-08-2008, 11:02 AM 1. Never flooded mine...
2. Never had to add oil...
3. Never had one problem yet and I'm at my 1yr mark at the end of April...
rglbegl 04-08-2008, 11:03 AM Everyone knows the Rotary is oil injected. It is designed to burn oil.
Here are a couple threads about the VQ35, which is not designed to burn oil, but does anyway. (maybe cuz it wants to be more like the rotary?)
http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=344090&highlight=burns+oil
http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=347178&highlight=burns+oil
superglue 04-08-2008, 11:04 AM 1) Adding oil isn't any scarier than pouring a glass of milk.... any car owner should consistently check their oil levels anyway, you just need to do it more often in an RX-8.
2) Warm up you car before you turn it off and it won't flood, or if there's no time, blip the throttle to 3500RPM just before you turn off the car.
3) Maybe you were thinking of the last gen RX-7 that had high mileage problems. The engine is as reliable as any other as long as you take care of it with proper maintenance.
There's nothing scary about owning an RX-8 dude. Unless you're scared of taking car of your car, in which case, I wouldn't suggest owning a sports car.
killerfish 04-08-2008, 11:04 AM sorry, at this point, i am just afraid to buy one, dont trust its reliability.
Then don't.
Rems31 04-08-2008, 11:04 AM Here you go...this should help you sleep better with your upcoming Z purchase
http://www.350zmotoring.com/forums/archive/index.php/f-5.html
reaper1 04-08-2008, 11:05 AM This guy is just a little confuse . In every thread he has started he's pretty much asking the same thing.
Get the 350 and move on ....................................
xsnipersgox 04-08-2008, 11:08 AM Afraid To Buy An RX-8.......
PoolShark 04-08-2008 11:05 AM
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PoolShark 04-07-2008 11:22 AM
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PoolShark 04-06-2008 01:00 AM
$3,000 Rebate Vs. Reliability
PoolShark
7 post, 4 new threads... ya... don't get one, u are obivously not ready.
delhi 04-08-2008, 12:56 PM People like the OP should just take the transit. Oh wait, you have to buy tickets. Dang...
Renesis07 04-08-2008, 01:03 PM from the sounds of it, youve already convinced yourself but youre trying to convince us or justify why youre "afraid" of the RX8. EVERY SINGLE CAR MODEL HAS ITS BAD SEEDS AND LEMONS!!!!! INCLUDING THE 350Z!!! So what everyone here is telling you is get over it bc its not a big deal. Just bc you buy an RX8 doesnt mean youll have a stream of endless problems. Just be careful of the RX8 you go with. If thats too difficult than go for the Z. DONT keep starting threads about the same thing.
CyberPitz 04-08-2008, 01:09 PM Let's just help him, then.
1.) You have to add oil every 2 miles, otherwise it will be bone dry, and the engine will fail.
2.) You flood the engine every time you turn it off, be prepaired to pay thousands of dollars a week for the dealership to fix.
3.) 50,000 miles is too much. Each RX-8 last 10,000 miles, then it will automatically get launched to the moon, where there is the RX-8 graveyard.
Rems31 04-08-2008, 01:13 PM Let's just help him, then.
1.) You have to add oil every 2 miles, otherwise it will be bone dry, and the engine will fail.
2.) You flood the engine every time you turn it off, be prepaired to pay thousands of dollars a week for the dealership to fix.
3.) 50,000 miles is too much. Each RX-8 last 10,000 miles, then it will automatically get launched to the moon, where there is the RX-8 graveyard.
But people already have...check out the other threads he started...he's basically posting the same issues he has over and over. People have already responded to his concerns yet he still keeps posting the same things. Looks like he's just trolling now
CyberPitz 04-08-2008, 01:17 PM But people already have...check out the other threads he started...he's basically posting the same issues he has over and over. People have already responded to his concerns yet he still keeps posting the same things. Looks like he's just trolling now
:( Did you read the rest of the post. lol. I was essentially just making his fears come true so he can go away :P
Rems31 04-08-2008, 01:23 PM :( Did you read the rest of the post. lol. I was essentially just making his fears come true so he can go away :P
:lol2: my bad...I Just read the first sentence...
but maybe he just wants us to confirm his fears so he'll feel better about his Z purchase...so good job:icon_tup:
PoolShark 04-08-2008, 01:40 PM Looks like he's just trolling now
no, i am not trolling. just confused and uncertain about what to do. buying a vehicle is a BIG expenditure, and i am searching for that elusive light bulb that will pop on and convince me that i am making the right decision - one way or another.
i've been thinking about the RX-8 for a month now, and still cant make up my mind whether i should buy one or not.
its like, on the one hand, yes, here's the reasons that make sense to buy one. on the other hand, here's the reasons that make sense not to buy one.
so i keep searching, hoping the light bulb will pop on, one way or another.....:banghead:
Mike
JRichter 04-08-2008, 01:42 PM Have you test driven either one, PoolShark? Lots of people compare these two cars but this is where you will see some pretty heavy differences.
Rems31 04-08-2008, 01:49 PM no, i am not trolling. just confused and uncertain about what to do. buying a vehicle is a BIG expenditure, and i am searching for that elusive light bulb that will pop on and convince me that i am making the right decision - one way or another.
i've been thinking about the RX-8 for a month now, and still cant make up my mind whether i should buy one or not.
its like, on the one hand, yes, here's the reasons that make sense to buy one. on the other hand, here's the reasons that make sense not to buy one.
so i keep searching, hoping the light bulb will pop on, one way or another.....:banghead:
Mike
I understand your concern and people have tried to set the record straight about the issues you're having. But if you keep posting about the same negatives about the car that people have already explained, then it's just trolling. It's great that you're doing your research before purchasing your vehicle. But if people have answered your questions already, you have to either accept their response or not. I don't know what posting the same questions/concerns will accomplish. You'll get the same responses.
architect 04-08-2008, 01:57 PM No one is twisting your arm.
fastlaneracing 04-08-2008, 01:57 PM Here in Sweden there is alot moore people having problems with theres 350Z.
I was also choosing between these 2.
Drive them both and make your choise.
I didnt like 350Z build quality, its just like my Micra and that sucks when it comes to a sportcar.
SideOfBacon 04-08-2008, 02:00 PM OP, please just go buy a 350z. save us all headaches. obviously you havent done much research on the 8 to really know what you are or are not getting into.
as its been addressed
1) check oil every other gas fill-up and add as necessary. takes next to no effort, just add while your tank fills.
2) flooding issues have been resolved with ECU flashes, just dont back the 8 out of the drive and power her off. you let her warm all the way up and rev her to clear the bullets before powering her down, flooding will not be an issue.
3) every car has its few lemons in the crowd. being you are on a board with everyone having owned or does own an 8, you will get lemons in the group. go over to 350z forum and you will see issues with those cars too.
so like I stated in the beginning, go get your 350z and become a part of their boards. or better yet, have you test drove/considered a crossfire?
SideOfBacon 04-08-2008, 02:03 PM Here in Sweden there is alot moore people having problems with theres 350Z.
I was also choosing between these 2.
Drive them both and make your choise.
I didnt like 350Z build quality, its just like my Micra and that sucks when it comes to a sportcar.
they ride extremely rough/rigid for a sports car. doesnt have that smooth feel/roll that you get in the 8. I too test drove them both. I had the mindset going into testing both I was about 70/30 on getting the 8 anyhow, but they had one there so I said what the hell... very stiff to drive, and the decision within a few miles in the Z quickly became 100/0. I did the necessary research prior to buying like everyone should do with EVERY car they buy. A car is not an investment but more of a money hole as it depreciates so quick. Before dropping 20k+ in a car you should know its quarks, its reviews, the things to expect and the things not to expect. It is common sense with getting a new car, period.
dothackRAVE 04-08-2008, 02:11 PM OP, DON'T BUY A 350Z!
You're afraid of adding oil, and afraid of some mythical list of problems that might crop up.
You know what you need? A Toyota Corolla. Seriously. That, or a Honda Civic. You don't deserve a sports car. Go buy yourself a shopping cart like everyone else so you won't have to deal with ANY maintenance all the way to the 200,000mi mark.
SideOfBacon 04-08-2008, 02:29 PM OP, DON'T BUY A 350Z!
You're afraid of adding oil, and afraid of some mythical list of problems that might crop up.
You know what you need? A Toyota Corolla. Seriously. That, or a Honda Civic. You don't deserve a sports car. Go buy yourself a shopping cart like everyone else so you won't have to deal with ANY maintenance all the way to the 200,000mi mark.
SMART car FTW!
Wargoose 04-08-2008, 03:24 PM 2. Never had to add oil...
Now Leesha, this is intriguing...you've had the car a year and never had to add oil? The RX-8 consumes it by design, so do you mean that you, personally - looking foxy as you do ;-) - never had to add any or that your car has never consumed any?
fastlaneracing 04-08-2008, 03:32 PM they ride extremely rough/rigid for a sports car. doesnt have that smooth feel/roll that you get in the 8. I too test drove them both. I had the mindset going into testing both I was about 70/30 on getting the 8 anyhow, but they had one there so I said what the hell... very stiff to drive, and the decision within a few miles in the Z quickly became 100/0. I did the necessary research prior to buying like everyone should do with EVERY car they buy. A car is not an investment but more of a money hole as it depreciates so quick. Before dropping 20k+ in a car you should know its quarks, its reviews, the things to expect and the things not to expect. It is common sense with getting a new car, period.
I cant agree more.
superglue 04-08-2008, 04:03 PM no, i am not trolling. just confused and uncertain about what to do. buying a vehicle is a BIG expenditure, and i am searching for that elusive light bulb that will pop on and convince me that i am making the right decision - one way or another.
i've been thinking about the RX-8 for a month now, and still cant make up my mind whether i should buy one or not.
its like, on the one hand, yes, here's the reasons that make sense to buy one. on the other hand, here's the reasons that make sense not to buy one.
so i keep searching, hoping the light bulb will pop on, one way or another.....:banghead:
Mike
If you've been this indecisive for a full month....
YOU'RE NOT READY FOR A SPORTS CAR!
Sports cars tend to have a higher cost of ownership dude. You have to pay to play. If you treat it right, you have very good chances of it lasting a long time.
Crap, or get off the pot!
SideOfBacon 04-08-2008, 04:04 PM If you've been this indecisive for a full month....
YOU'RE NOT READY FOR A SPORTS CAR!
Sports cars tend to have a higher cost of ownership dude. You have to pay to play. If you treat it right, you have very good chances of it lasting a long time.
Crossfire, or get off the pot!
fixed for accuracy!
LionZoo 04-08-2008, 04:13 PM Don't feed the troll?
superglue 04-08-2008, 04:14 PM Why, not? I'm bored.
LionZoo 04-08-2008, 04:18 PM Why, not? I'm bored.
Then you should at least say something useful like "I like pie."
superglue 04-08-2008, 04:49 PM I hate pie.
I love lamp!
Raptor75 04-08-2008, 05:45 PM I can understand your concerns but lets look at them.
1) Adding oil is really nothing, the car burns oil by design and you'll learn to check the dipstick every so often. When it is time to fill her the add oil is right on top, 2 minutes later and you'll be done. This really will not be a concern for you.
2) The engine still can flood but with modifications made by Mazda over the last few years it is all but a thing of the past. To be safe never shut the car down cold, if your moving down the drive way, take it around the block to be safe.
3) The thing with a web site is you will here a disproportionate amount of problem. If a person has a problem he goes to the web to report and see what people say. That being said the 04 did have there share of teething problems. Also their is still a question about engine failures but, starting in 08 the engine received modifications which should solve the potential problems.
The best I can say is read the web site and look at reliability in Consumer Reports they rate the RX average over all. Also take what the Fan-boys tell you with a grain of salt. They will have you believe god drives an RX-8. It is a great car with some issues like any other car. The 350z had a tire wear issue which I believe was resolved with later models. No car is perfect.
i've been thinking of the RX-8 and the Nissan 350Z for quite some time now. i am leaning towards the 350Z simply because i am afraid to buy an RX-8. here's what scares me about the RX-8:
1) HAVING to add oil
2) Flooding issues
3) Seems like there's alot of people with things going wrong once they hit 50,000 miles
sad thing is, i totally prefer the looks of the RX-8 over the 350Z. but the RX-8 just scares the heck out of me. my luck usually runs bad, and i dont have any mechanical skills. if anything goes wrong, it could get very, very expensive for me.
sorry, at this point, i am just afraid to buy one, dont trust its reliability.
Mike
Loogootee, IN
Groundrush 04-08-2008, 06:08 PM Agreed with the rest of the replies. Get a 350Z, or get a Honda.
Think about it...with the position you're taking now, if you go ahead and pick up an RX-8, you're going to be forever looking at your car, waiting on a massive failure of some type re: the mechanics. When the first thing goes wrong, say fouled plugs or coils, you're going to be telling yourself "I shoulda got the Z." Save yourself the anguish. The Z may not be any more reliable than an RX-8, but it will be in your mind, and you won't be walking on eggshells every time you climb in the car waiting for it to explode or something.
Enjoy the 350Z forums.
chrism 04-08-2008, 06:28 PM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v693/chrismarko2/Picture002.jpg
JRichter 04-08-2008, 06:53 PM ^ classic... Did you cover all the threads? lol
CarAndDriver 04-08-2008, 09:08 PM If you're hesitant, buy something else.
superglue 04-08-2008, 10:43 PM I'm new, is that pictar a reference to how much you enjoy pie?????
juikster 04-08-2008, 11:42 PM back to the original thread post.....buy an RX8 ,don't be scared!!!
Silver06 04-09-2008, 12:22 AM You've read enough (probably too much) about the RX-8. I hope you've read the same amount about the Z.
I did quite a bit of comparison. I chose the RX-8 because of how it fit my driving style. YMMV. At some point, though, buy either one and learn to drive it - have fun.
dozer 04-09-2008, 10:29 AM poolshark....sublime????......adding oil???? omg go home, your not a sports car enthusiast
astrozoom 04-09-2008, 10:35 AM Some people have had issues, but I think you will find that most people do not have major issues with the RX-8. The flooding issues have been addressed already. My RX-8 usually does not burn enough oil in 3000 miles to have to add any oil. By 3000 miles, I get an oil change, and it really is not an issue. I have noticed on long road trips you usually do have to add some oil, but it usually is only once in a 1500 mile trip. If you do not know how to add oil or check it, ask someone to show you because it really is not a big deal. Keep in mind even piston engines can burn oil. So, the 350Z you might have to add oil occasionally too. If you have all the routine maintenance done on the RX-8, the chances of major issues are the same as for any car you purchase. Another way to mitigate the worry is to purchase an extended warranty when you purchase your RX-8. Personally, I would get the extended warranty with any car I purchased if I was planning on keeping it for a while. Hope to see you as a proud owner soon!
Renesis07 04-09-2008, 12:07 PM half the time I forget to add oil and the damn light comes on!! lol. Ive never had a problem with my car minus needing a new tranny which was a dogbox when I bought it. Ive had this car for 2 years and I usually add a quart between oil changes if that. But I guess nowadays you need a college edumacation to add a quart of oil to a shiny car between oil changes. Buy a 'yota.
HiTMaNN 04-09-2008, 12:13 PM Like I said in his 4 other threads where he is asking the same effing question this guy is a bonafide troll
chrism 04-09-2008, 06:38 PM I'm new, is that pictar a reference to how much you enjoy pie?????
pie is a very tasty treat......and i will splain this once so it can be found in the search.......the pic is for all the stupid questions that have been answered a bajillion times.....its just a stupid answer.....because i like pie
^ classic... Did you cover all the threads? lol
yes i actually did
HiTMaNN 04-09-2008, 07:45 PM I really do hope that this guy started these many threads on the 350z forums.....
chrism 04-09-2008, 07:46 PM i hope some one on 350 forums likes pie as much as i.......wouldnt that be funny......or if there were a cake lover there.....oh the possible debate!!
PIES ARE GROSS AND NEEDS TO BE BANNED FROM EARTH. :scared: lol
You should walk, it's better for the environment.
CarAndDriver 04-09-2008, 10:47 PM Free post care of troll.
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