FORUM ID: G3tR3DDY2GR3DDY
PARTS Brought: Used, OEM RX-8 Wheels (18”)
Amount: $500/shipped
Description of transaction:

Not quite sure where to start this, and this will no doubt be a lengthy piece, but I guarantee you it will be an informative read. To summarize the transaction, I was searching for a set of used RX-8 wheels, and G3tR3DDY2GR3DDY (from here on out referred to as ‘James’) sent me a Private Message (PM) indicating that he had a used set of RX-8 for me, for the tune of $500/shipped.

We discussed the fact that the rims had undergone some aesthetic abuse (read: curb rash and scratching), but that structurally the wheels were sound (read: I was assured the wheels had absolutely no bends or cracks in them)

no cracks or bends, just like i said one wheel has some scratches on the side you would need to repaint. And yes, comes with center caps.

When I received the wheels, I notice almost immediately after unpacking them that one of the wheels has TWO (2) visible bends on the inside lip.

Hey James,

I got the wheels delivered a few days ago, but I was away for the week, and just opened them up yesterday. I hate to be a nitpicker, but you seem like a cool enough that I figured we could discuss this. The one rim that needs to be repainted appears to have two minor bends in it. I was under the impression that there were no bends in any of them, so I just wanted to bring that to your attention as I was surprised to see that.

Happy Easter/Regular Old Sunday (depending on your religious affiliations),

Tim

I take the wheels to my mechanic in the meantime to get the summer tires mounted (Monday), and the next day I am informed by the mechanic that 2 of the wheels are badly bent, one wheel has a distinct wobble to it, and the remaining rim was ‘okay.’ The mechanic then proceeded to tell me that he wouldn’t mount the tires because he didn’t feel the were safe/adequate enough to drive on.

I PM ‘James’ again, informing him that the situation has escalated, and that we need to talk.

I'm not sure if you got my last message, but I just got a call from my mechanic and he said that he put the wheels on the balancer, and 2 are bent pretty bad, 1 has a slight wobble, and 1 is "okay."

I'm going to take the to Wheel Collision (Bath, PA, they have a website, they do some pretty awesome stuff) to get straightened out and what not, so I wondering if you wouldn't mind refunding some money to help cover the cost of the repairs, since I was under the impression there were no bends in the rims.

Hey man- all i do is part out cars, ive never actually driven on these wheels and from my eye i cant notice any bends. I dont have any warranty on items as im not a mazda dealership or anything... just a guy with a basement. I can help you find some other wheels to replace those especially the scratched one, but for the price you paid i cant refund any money to make any thing off of them or make it worth the sell. There are a few wheels on here for 130 to 150 in great condition. There are also a set for 1k in great condition. Let me know if you want me to find you two. Thanks

I understand that you've never driven around on these wheels, but what I'm trying to say is that when I looked at the wheels as soon as I got them, I could tell that one was bent in 2 spots. And that was after about 3 seconds of looking. I don't believe that I have some extraordinary ability to detect bends in rims....It was fairly obvious.

I also realize that you're not a mazda dealership, but I'm not asking for a warranty here. I'm asking you to make right on a misinformed product you sold me. You told me that there were no bends in the rims, and I took your word for it because I had no way of verifying that. That's your responsibility as the seller, not mine.

I'm sorry that you won't be making as much money on the rims as you'd like, but the fact of the matter is, the product you described to me and the product I received are not the same. And I'm pretty sure I stand to lose more money than you, but that's neither here nor there.

And I believe the last part of your message is insinuating that I take a $500 dollar hit, and give you MORE money to buy MORE rims to replace the original ones you sold me. I'm sorry, but had you done your homework and known that these rims were in such rough shape we wouldn't be in this predicament.

I'm not looking for free rims. It's going to cost me a significant amount of money to get the wheels road ready, and I wouldn't have purchased the rims if I had this information before the transaction.

Like I said before, my mechanic stated that two of the rims are bent badly (ie not road ready), 1 has a distinct wobble, and the last one is okay. (Basically I'm left with only one good rim if I don't pay to get them repaired.)

Please let me know how you'd like to proceed.
Yea im really busy at the moment. i know you think im ignoring you but im not... i do sleep. I dont know what you want me to do about the wheels. I wasnt aware of the bends or else i wouldnt have sold them. Since you found them now, yes im sorry, but i cant just refund every part thats not perfect because none of my parts are perfect. You had pictures of the wheels and could see what i see. I didn't take them to a shop to get balanced because it's not a concern of mine and didnt seem to be a problem. What do you want me to about the situation?

I understand that not all of your parts are perfect because you sell used parts. But as a businessman, you should know that you need to accurately describe items that you're selling.

In regards to your statement about "getting them balanced," I'm appalled at your utter lack of concern for your customers. If you're going to sell wheels to ANYONE and say they aren't bent, you better make DAMN SURE that they're not because your reputation relies on it. You cannot just assume they're not bent, especially when one of them had OBVIOUS bends in it, when the wheels are used. Due to your lack of "concern," I'm now stuck with $500 worth of aluminum and 4 18" tires with nothing to put them on (read: stock 17s).

Had you actually looked at the rims, you would have been able to see that there was a problem. By stating that the wheels had "had cracks or bendsperfect except for the scratches," you opened yourself up to a huge liability being that the wheels were used. And I don't even want to get into the fact that the amount of curb rashes contained on the rest of wheels was grossly underestimated, as it's a moot point right now.

But I'm not going to lecture you on business practices/ethics anymore. Basically, I'm looking for you to make this situation right. I'm willing to accept a partial refund of $200 to help fray the cost of fixing the wheels (which won't be able to be driven on safely or without excessive vibration), seeing as how it's more than likely the cost of repair will far exceed the amount of $200. A second option would be a full refund and you get the wheels back.

It's really up to you. I'd prefer the first option, as it would be a lot easier for both of us (probably more so for you than me).

Like I said, I want this to be as equitable as possible for both of us, and I'm simply trying to displace the burden fairly and evenly.

Let me know where you stand.

-Tim

i will refund 150 as one wheel was worth 100 and one was worth 50, other than that i could have been better off just selling the two perfect wheels for 300 plus shipping which would have been easier.

$150 for the 2 wheels sounds fair enough, though I'm asking for $200 not to try and screw you out of money, but because I'm going to have to get 3 wheels fixed which will cost ~$270, at a conservatively estimated at $90/wheel. Contrary to your idea that only 2 of the wheels are damaged cand 2 are "perfect" (which is a far cry from your original "no bends or cracks" communique), I will be needing to get three (3) wheels fixed. And like I said in the last email, you're descriptive techniques in regards to the amount of curb rash contained on ALL the wheels (not just the one bad one we discussed) have some room for improvement to say the least, but this isn't what were talking about (and that is NOT included in the estimate to get the curb rash fixed, as I will be paying for that out of pocket).

[It should also be noted that had you just sold to two rims to another buyer, which i gave you the option to do, you still would have run into a problem because the other party would have received one DECENT (read: not perfect) rim and one damaged wheel.]

So just to reiterate, even if you were to reimburse me $200, which, based on our previous interactions, I highly doubt will happen, I'm still taking a loss of $70-100 (before fixing curb rash) just to help make this issue as financially painless as possible. Evidence of my genuine attempts at solving this amicably are show by the simple fact that I COULD have taken much more drastic measures in the form of a chargeback or legal action (as this entire transaction falls under the category of fraud, deceptive sales, and/or just plain old shitty business practices), and I would have been entirely justified in doing so.

If you really want to haggle $50 dollars from a poor college student, then go ahead. But just remember the old adage of "what goes around comes around" while you're doing it.

If you'd like proof of how damaged the wheels are, I will be taking a video of them all on the balancer tomorrow morning, as well as photographing the visible bends, and would be more than happy to show them to you.

Please send the reimbursement to xxxx@xxxx.xxx, and don't hesitate to add a few bucks on top to cover the paypal fees. ;)


dude if you wanted absolute perfect wheels then go to mazda and pay 430 each for them, im not here to hear your sad college student stories. Im a college student myself so dont worry, i understand. I am in fact tempted now to not refund you at all just because of your poor attitude. And for the harsh comments, the refund will come in a few days. Legal actions are non-existant as you paid for wheels, which i shipped. Paypal is no longer involved. Trying to justify your repair costs once again has nothing to do with the transaction as the deal was never to get a full set of perfect "no rash whatsoever" wheels so it was already assumed the repairs by you or to just live with it like most people. Expect either a 150.00 refund sometime in a few days or if you have further comments expect none. Thanks

Look man, I'm not trying to start anything with you. I obviously did not want "perfect" wheels by any means, as I wouldn't wouldn't have purchased these wheels because they're they were scratched the hell up.

I did, however, expect to purchase unbent (read: straight) wheels, and you said you would provide that, and you did not.

For the last time, the reason that I'm demanding a refund is because THREE of the wheels you sent me are bent, when you told me they would be straight. Hence my grounds for legal action.

The only one here with a bad attitude now is you, so don't act like I'm being/have been a prick, because I've done nothing wrong. Please don't threaten me.

I would appreciate it if you would handle this in a timely and adult-like manner.

-Tim

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It is at this point that he started a thread in this same forum, bashing me, accusing me of “slander” [sic], saying that I wasn’t happy with my wheels because of the curb rash on them, and that I was an all around bad guy and pain in the ass (my words, not his exact words, but you get the point), and people should seriously consider not doing business with me. (It should be noted that I did bring up the fact that he understated the amount of curb rash on the wheels, but that it was an aside and a moot point, considering how badly the wheels were bent.)

When the thread turned against him, it magically disappeared. http://www.geocities.com/xtmesisx/bad-guy-xtmesisx-thread-backup.pdf << Right click to download the old thread (changed to pdf)

edit: James' original thread is back from the dead....http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=141773

He then PM’d me saying the money ($150) would be in my account on Monday (yesterday), and I received the money around 11PM last night.

I have since dropped the wheels off at Wheel Collision, and will post the estimate on repair after I get a phone call from them.

Wheel 1 - Bend 1
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/saucemania/2008/Cars/20080329-002.jpg
Wheel 1 - Bend 2
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/saucemania/2008/Cars/20080329-005.jpg


A history of my all PMs (up until james' thread about me) can be seen here >> http://geocities.com/xtmesisx/privatemessages-xtmesisx-03-28-2008-editedforsensitiveinfo.txt

It has been edited only to remove sensitive information (like locations and emails). If you question my honesty, credibility, or intent, feel free to glance through it.

It should also be noted that ‘James’ no longer wants me to send him private messages.


Okay, that’s the long and short of it all. Will update as necessary.

I'm still waiting for a refund that was promised for an ECU, last year.

"Bought" off some loser who was parting a car, Greddguy bought all the pieces & stock and said he would handle all the pending sales and refunds, but chose to sell the ECU with the engine, to someone else.

Still waiting.......


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heh, if u hang around the for sale place long enough, you can tell that gredd does. he will pounce on the cheap cheap deals especially part cars, and part it out for a profit later. he is not a vendor, and most stuff he sell i doubt he even owns more than a week. those rims were soo bent that it would take an idiot to not see it -.-

heh, if u hang around the for sale place long enough, those rims were soo bent that it would take an idiot to not see it -.-

i sent him those same pictures, but he never acknowledged them.

wow those are pretty noticeable bends...

Ya'll should read the thread the "James" posted. It's pretty awesome watching him squirm when no-one backs him.

This whole transaction was pretty shitty. I would have gotten a full refund and return shipping, personally. This asshole got off lightly for only having to send back $150.

Hopefully this will get enough people's attention to save them from dealing with this dirtbag.

holy shit!!!!....those wheels are in really bad shape...........I sold my wheels on here a while back........they were in incredible shape.....with only mild curb rash. but they were deffinately straight and sold them for 500. Wow.....i guess thats the issue with internet sales....you just never know what you are going to get.....you have to hold the seller to his/her word. I read thru all of the treads and posts and I think 150 is less than what you deserve back. Frankly, the two wheels should have never been sold in the first place. Anyways, sorry to hear you are out of pocket some cash.........but thats horrible, theres no way those bends could have been missed before selling them to you. guess we all know who to boycott on here

ahhh....can't stop myself from looking at the pics of the bent wheels....driving me nuts.......I would never sell shit like that.

Thanks for the heads up. I will make sure to never deal with this moron.

If he did not notice the bends it's simply because he never looked at the rims. I don’t care how bad your eye sight is those are HIGHLY noticeable!

Wow.

By reading all of this,I would contact paypal and file a dispute and then contact an attorney.This boils down to internet fraud and should not be taken lightly as it is a federal crime since I am assuming it is across state lines.Give him 48 hours to comply with a full refund and a call tag for returning the wheels or just stick it to him legally and thru paypal.


I am a new member to this forum and after reading this it makes me wonder if I want to be a part of it.Such a shame that a scammer gets away with this,looks like it has not been the first time either since Stealth TL has a complaint from a year ago....

Yeah, I want to go on the record and say that I am NOT happy with $150 refund, and I am definitely getting screwed six ways to sunday.

I gave him the option of $200, or a full refund, and he opted for neither.

The best part is, my pal Jimmy here thinks he's done NOTHING wrong. Or at least hasn't admitted it.

Originally Posted by G3tR3DDY2GR3DDY
Hey man- all i do is part out cars, ive never actually driven on these wheels and from my eye i cant notice any bends.

:Eyecrazy: Those bends are as plain as day!!!!

Yeah, I want to go on the record and say that I am NOT happy with $150 refund, and I am definitely getting screwed six ways to sunday.

I gave him the option of $200, or a full refund, and he opted for neither.

The best part is, my pal Jimmy here thinks he's done NOTHING wrong. Or at least hasn't admitted it.

I think you're being more than reasonable with the $200 option if it's going to cost more than that to fix the bend on the rims. You could technically ask for the entire repair cost to fix the bends.

......my, my, my the irony

yeah, i'd file a complaint w/ paypal and get a full refund. send him his trash back and call it a day. if you look around here long enough you can find a good set for $500 from a reputable seller. this is just piss poor. i'm glad he didn't have the parts i needed after reading this, that's for sure.

It blows me away that he would rather keep $200 and ruin his reputation.

That was a shady sale. His lame attempt to discredit you was nothing more than a preemptive attack knowing that it was inevitable that you were going to "blacklist" his ass.

Thanks for letting all of us know. If he doesnt rectify the situation, then you can count on his activity on this site to dwindle. I applaud your being courteous throughout the whole thing. At very least he should buy back the 2 wheels that were clearly sold under false pretense. Nothing less should suffice. If its worth a couple hundred bux to him to have his reputation run through the mud then he obviously doesnt know shit about good business (or about ethics/honor), and your $250 just saved many us the heartache of dealing with him.

yeah, i'd file a complaint w/ paypal and get a full refund. send him his trash back and call it a day. if you look around here long enough you can find a good set for $500 from a reputable seller. this is just piss poor. i'm glad he didn't have the parts i needed after reading this, that's for sure.

from what i read, paypal doesn't do shit for you unless you buy things on ebay. it's in the fine print.

my other option would be a credit card charge back, but i would never pay to ship these rims back, and can definitely foresee him not covering the return shipping.

It blows me away that he would rather keep $200 and ruin his reputation.
it's quite astonishing.


and your $250 just saved many us the heartache of dealing with him.
that's how i'm justifying the situation to myself.

I think you're being more than reasonable with the $200 option if it's going to cost more than that to fix the bend on the rims. You could technically ask for the entire repair cost to fix the bends.
but then he wouldn't make any money on the sale.....:rollingla

the BIGGER question is.... is greddy ACTUALLY a forum vendor??? I asked this recently and he said he was 'working on it' but I think it's absolute BULLSHIT that he can sell a million parts on here while the rest of the vendors pay an annual membership to do this.

wow, another one bites the dust. I can't understand how he was all "I won't make as much money on the deal", I recently sold my 2 front tires for 150 shipped, 143 is what I ended up with, it cost me 144 to ship them to Canada to the person I sold them too. In my case, 150 was the agreed upon price, so I ate the whole thing as I think that was the right thing to do and I think it would be nuts to contact the buyer and ask for more $ etc. This dude should have done the same, and ate the cost instead of keeping the $ and ducking everything.

People just don't get it, all you have in life is your word and your integrity, take away your car, your house, everything, and ultimately that's all you have, maybe it's just me, but 200 bucks out of 500 on a shitty deal to somewhat salvage that seems like such a small small itty bitty price to pay compared to what's lost by not doing that instead. :banghead:

Damn,
I never knew Greddy was that shitty of a seller. Those rims look fucked! Any idiot can see that.
I hope that paypal refunds you back man!

Damn,
I hope that paypal refunds you back man!

like i said in one of my posts above, if you look at the fine print, paypal only covers you if you buy things on ebay. you can dispute it with them, and they'll mediate, but they won't refund you, and they won't guarantee you get any money.

like you said, if you paid through paypal with a credit card then i would have the credit card company deal with it. they will take care of everything. just give them a call.

wow, another one bites the dust. I can't understand how he was all "I won't make as much money on the deal", I recently sold my 2 front tires for 150 shipped, 143 is what I ended up with, it cost me 144 to ship them to Canada to the person I sold them too. In my case, 150 was the agreed upon price, so I ate the whole thing as I think that was the right thing to do and I think it would be nuts to contact the buyer and ask for more $ etc. This dude should have done the same, and ate the cost instead of keeping the $ and ducking everything.

People just don't get it, all you have in life is your word and your integrity, take away your car, your house, everything, and ultimately that's all you have, maybe it's just me, but 200 bucks out of 500 on a shitty deal to somewhat salvage that seems like such a small small itty bitty price to pay compared to what's lost by not doing that instead. :banghead:

same thing happened to me with my oem airbox.....I sold it for 50 with shipping and it cost me 48 to ship it. It's the right thing to do....when you give your word you keep it....plain and simple.

This really makes me grateful that I didn't buy from him back when I was looking for wheels...Who knows, it may have been the exact set that he sold you and I would be in this fucked up predicament.

Whether you get reimbursed or not, which seems unlikely, at least you are looking at it the right way...Hopefully your $250 saves someone else the headache of dealing with this douche.

This really makes me grateful that I didn't buy from him back when I was looking for wheels...Who knows, it may have been the exact set that he sold you and I would be in this fucked up predicament.

Whether you get reimbursed or not, which seems unlikely, at least you are looking at it the right way...Hopefully your $250 saves someone else the headache of dealing with this douche.

how POETic

i do like it. i dont need anyones business and if you ask anyone i actually deal with everything with me has been pleasant. Only when you ask for a negative experience do you get one. I apologized for the misinterpretation which was reason for the refund and still i get this. Everyone thats posted here i would suggest not to deal with me as now your experience may be as bad :D

BTW my name is not James and for the people bashing me about lurking the classified section, don't be pissed off that i am on here finding good deals. On another note, the only "parts car" i have bought off this club was "dom the douche's" car that if you dont know anything about that i can understand why your badmouthing me :D

no a-hole here :dunno:

I've always done business here on a 100% satisfaction guaranteed basis, my FS rep speaks for itself

the only "parts car" i have bought off this club was "dom the douche's" car that if you dont know anything about that i can understand why your badmouthing me :D

^^Great person to compare yourself too ;)

Good service will always win out in the end....and if you always deliver 110% then you can sleep at night knowing you did the right thing

Do you people know how many good parts greddy has sold on here? If i recal, a month or two ago he had Three, i repeat, THREE different "Good Guy" Thread started for him, by numerous people who have purchased parts from him. He is one of the most popular sellars on this forum. And Everybody, except 1 guy, has been satisifyed with his products. It was a simple mistake, he refunded the guy $150. Honestly he's a great guy, and he has hooked up a good percent of people on this forum...To say that you will never buy something from him is ridiculous. I know him personally, and i understand his love for RX8's, and the rotary engine. I am sure that he would not try to screw someone over, and sell them faulty wheels.

^^ I'm afraid that "he made the bed" he is presently lying in.........

Could have handled it much differently.....Especially the PM's....why were any of them necessary...

g3tr3ddy, please add me to the list of people you don't do business with. You have no place on this forum selling this kind of crap to others. It is not ethical and no one deserves to be taken advantage of.

its good a partial refund was made but it doesn't make up for passing off unusable rims as usable in the first place.

actually it was four and now five but only because people are lazy.

TeamRx8- your a great guy and i know it because i see the satisfied people and you have great stuff. I still like ya and i wish my real friends didn't decide to pick this guys side who is out TRYING to make me look as bad as possible. :D

Thanks Micheal... noone who posted on here is important enough to care or else they would have investigated further :eyetwitch

Guess what? The wheels were bent! i didnt see them. I refunded him for the misunderstanding. Im still a bad guy? Only because he wants me to be :lol2:

its good a partial refund was made but it doesn't make up for passing off unusable rims as usable in the first place.

he chose the partial refund not me. Thanks Jason for not understanding again.

i do like it. i dont need anyones business and if you ask anyone i actually deal with everything with me has been pleasant. Only when you ask for a negative experience do you get one. I apologized for the misinterpretation which was reason for the refund and still i get this. Everyone thats posted here i would suggest not to deal with me as now your experience may be as bad :D

If by apologizing you mean threatening me with no refund for "having something to say" and just have a general lack of concern for your customer, then I guess you're right; you did "apologize."

And I'm sorry, but when, throughout our entire transaction, did I "ask for a negative experience."

g3tr3ddy2gr3ddy, could you please make sure the rims you sell me are completely unusable and only really worth their weight in aluminum?? i really hate it when I purchase products I can actually make use of. I have this awesome collection of "unconventional" paper weights going right now, and I really think 4 shit-ass rims would add to my collection nicely.

^^oh, that's when. my bad.

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BTW my name is not James and for the people bashing me about lurking the classified section, don't be pissed off that i am on here finding good deals. On another note, the only "parts car" i have bought off this club was "dom the douche's" car that if you dont know anything about that i can understand why your badmouthing me :D

i just assumed your name was James because that was the name on the paypal account. As for why everyone is badmouthing you, I think it's because they see how poorly you handled (and are still handling) the situation.

I just dont understand why people are so against greddy now? He has sold everything that come off of an RX8, he sells one set of bad wheels, that he was not aware of, and he gets bashed for it? If greddy had known that the wheels were bent badly and unusuable, i am positive that he would not have sold them to you.

tell me how i could possible handle it differently?? all you do is comment back with something of why im a bad guy?

i did NOT choose the refund. you chose the method (i gave you the option of a partial or full refund) and you chose THE AMOUNT you'd refund, and didn't want to hear anything else.

:banghead:

I just dont understand why people are so against greddy now? He has sold everything that come off of an RX8, he sells one set of bad wheels, that he was not aware of, and he gets bashed for it? If greddy had known that the wheels were bent badly and unusuable, i am positive that he would not have sold them to you.
did you even LOOK at the pictures dude? it's pretty obvious.

tell me how i could possible handle it differently?? all you do is comment back with something of why im a bad guy?
you could have treated me with a little respect, and given me the $200 like I asked for, especially considering i'm STILL going to lose money on it. The reason you didn't is because you were too concerned with still making a profit, instead of doing the right thing.

it seems like you think it's MY fault the rims are bent....

um ya, you told me you would prefer the partial refund of 200 which you stated. I countered with 150 because two of the wheels ( ones already scratched) were bent ( that i didnt notice i said im sorry) and you said that sounded fair for the two wheels. Stop being so pissed off and maybe you might get somewhere :uhh:

and let's not overlook the fact that you put me on blast in front of the whole forum, for something that was YOUR responsibility.

Let's see....

"I'm sorry the wheels were bent...I didn't notice that before. What would you like to do about it? Would you like a refund on the whole transaction...or just something done about the bent wheels?

I would prefer that you kept the two wheels....would $$$$ be a suitable amount for those two wheels that are OK? I really don't want to pay for the shipping of the two damaged wheels back..would it be OK if you disposed of them for me as they are not usable?

I have 2 other wheels that I will check out and make sure they are as agreed before I ship them to you at my cost if you would like

Again I am sorry that the two wheels were not usable as agreed"

Thank you for the business

so what you want the other 50 dollars?? sounds like your trying to make more of a profit. Why is that such a big deal.... You could have just told me either give you the 200 dollars or your going to attempt to ruin my reputation with everyone because it would be funny

Is this all worth $50....

I could see you being mad if he wanted $300 back...but half would have been reasonable

Let's see....

"I'm sorry the wheels were bent...I didn't notice that before. What would you like to do about it? Would you like a refund on the whole transaction...or just something done about the bent wheels?

I would prefer that you kept the two wheels....would $$$$ be a suitable amount for those two wheels that are OK? I really don't want to pay for the shipping of the two damaged wheels back..would it be OK if you disposed of them for me as they are not usable?

I have 2 other wheels that I will check out and make sure they are as agreed before I ship them to you at my cost if you would like

Again I am sorry that the two wheels were not usable as agreed"

Thank you for the business

and i dont know what this means but if that is supposed to be a "what you would have replied with" then that sounds superficial and a refund WAS given for the two bad wheels.

um ya, you told me you would prefer the partial refund of 200 which you stated. I countered with 150 because two of the wheels ( ones already scratched) were bent ( that i didnt notice i said im sorry) and you said that sounded fair for the two wheels. Stop being so pissed off and maybe you might get somewhere :uhh:

first off, i said that 150 was okay for TWO rims, but i had to repair THREE, and thats why i was looking for 200. you seem to think that only two wheels were messed up, even though i keep telling you it's THREE. TRES. TRE. TROIS. TRIFECTA. SAN. THREE.

and i'm not going to apologize for feeling the way i do. it would be rediculous if i WASN'T pissed off.

Is this all worth $50....

I could see you being mad if he wanted $300 back...but half would have been reasonable

sure it would have but it was agreed for 150 was fair for the two wheels. So he quitely waits for his refund then unleashes this thread to ruin me? Yet still people dont give me a chance

^Yes i did look at the pictures, and for someone like greddy, who has 100 PM's every night, and ships i dont even know how many parts out a day, it would be very easy to miss the bend in the wheels. He drove the car before he sold everything, and the wheels were useable then... And he was most likely assured by the one whom he bought the car from, that everything he was planning on selling were in good working order. So, maybe he did overlook the wheels, and maybe he should have been more careful as to what quality of parts he was selling, but that doesn't make it right to try to turn everyone on this site against him.

so what you want the other 50 dollars?? sounds like your trying to make more of a profit. Why is that such a big deal.... You could have just told me either give you the 200 dollars or your going to attempt to ruin my reputation with everyone because it would be funny

and i dont know what this means but if that is supposed to be a "what you would have replied with" then that sounds superficial and a refund WAS given for the two bad wheels.

one last time. i'll say it real slow. THERE.

ARE. THREE. BUSTED. WHEELS. I. WILL. STILL BE LOSING MONEY. EVEN IF YOU GIVE ME 200 DOLLARS.

oh ok. Im sorry. ill refund you the other 250 and you send me all the wheels back. Oh wait that doesnt help me any because now everyone think im a crook anyway. :uhh:

You sent me the pic of one wheel that was bent. I didnt see any pictures of the other wheels you said were bad. I had no idea the wheels were so bad until after you got them. Again i know your pissed off but can we calm down and do something about it instead of keep arguing? Its not helping anything

but that doesn't make it right to try to turn everyone on this site against him.

i'm doing nothing of the sort. i'm simply posting in the good guy/bad guy thread because i'm getting the shit end of the stick in this.

you must have missed the thread he started about me....theres a link for in in my first post, at the bottom

first off, i said that 150 was okay for TWO rims, but i had to repair THREE, and thats why i was looking for 200. you seem to think that only two wheels were messed up, even though i keep telling you it's THREE. TRES. TRE. TROIS. TRIFECTA. SAN. THREE.

and i'm not going to apologize for feeling the way i do. it would be rediculous if i WASN'T pissed off.

Still, Greddy gave you a good deal in the first place...Most people sell their wheels for $450 + shipping. When i shipped my wheels, it cost me $200. And greddy only charged you $100. So, you ended up paying $550 for the wheels. Since he gave you back $150 to cover the cost of the 2 bent wheels. I would say that $550, including shipping, is a good deal for wheels.

^Yes i did look at the pictures, and for someone like greddy, who has 100 PM's every night, and ships i dont even know how many parts out a day, it would be very easy to miss the bend in the wheels. He drove the car before he sold everything, and the wheels were useable then... And he was most likely assured by the one whom he bought the car from, that everything he was planning on selling were in good working order. So, maybe he did overlook the wheels, and maybe he should have been more careful as to what quality of parts he was selling, but that doesn't make it right to try to turn everyone on this site against him.


I am not basing my opinion on anything the PURCHASER has said...just the responses that he received from the SELLER.

As already stated..." he has made the bed he is lying in" :(

Man up....and make it go away in a manner that will leave everyone with the RIGHT impression

Just my 2cents....

i'm doing nothing of the sort. i'm simply posting in the good guy/bad guy thread because i'm getting the shit end of the stick in this.

you must have missed the thread he started about me....theres a link for in in my first post, at the bottom

No. I read the thread. So stop acting like i'm misinformed about the subject, as i have read everything between you two. And all the threads you have posted. And about you getting the shit end of the deal. Read my above post.

he paid 100 for shipping ( cost about 130 to ship) and i refunded 150. He has 220 in a set of four wheels shipped, yes one is bent pretty bad, one is bent in one place i guess, and one has a slight "wobble" so... ?

dannobre i understand, but what can i do? he doesnt want anymore refund, doesnt want a full refund, wont calm down.. just keeps arguing..

oh ok. Im sorry. ill refund you the other 250 and you send me all the wheels back. Oh wait that doesnt help me any because now everyone think im a crook anyway. :uhh:

You sent me the pic of one wheel that was bent. I didnt see any pictures of the other wheels you said were bad. I had no idea the wheels were so bad until after you got them. Again i know your pissed off but can we calm down and do something about it instead of keep arguing? Its not helping anything

the only one arguing here is you. you're the one who keeps escalating the situation. didn't you instruct me not to PM you anymore??

stop trying to make me out to be a bad guy.

grow up.

i think it's the attitude by which you handle a bad complaint that is not right. now, i don't know if he ever agreed to the 150 bucks, or did u just send it? should have never sent out bent rim in the 1st place
and coulda handled it a lot better.


damn ppl posting fast, if greddy is complying and its just not worth it, just drop it then. u've got 4 wheels for 100bucks it seems and that is already a steal.

the way i see it now is, it was agreed upon to sell 4 functional wheels that is not bend.

product not as described.

greddy charges 100 + shipping. (correct me)

refunds 150.

if that is wat it is.. this is good deal already, u've got 4 wheels for basically free.

dannobre i understand, but what can i do? he doesnt want anymore refund, doesnt want a full refund, wont calm down.. just keeps arguing..

that's just ridiculous. from the beginning, all i've wanted is to solve this matter amicably and peacefully.

xtmesisx. How much did you end up paying for the wheels, including the repair cost?

Paypal him the $50...if he doesn't want it....donate it to charity and leave it alone

That won't leave any room for complaints with what has been said in all the posts.

Another 2 cents :)

what am i arguing about? i asked you a question you havnt answered. I said stop pming me because all i got were negative PMs from you with an attitude. So you post my responses on here to make me look bad instead of just asking to correct it differently.

Grow up?

i do like it. i dont need anyones business and if you ask anyone i actually deal with everything with me has been pleasant. Only when you ask for a negative experience do you get one. I apologized for the misinterpretation which was reason for the refund and still i get this. Everyone thats posted here i would suggest not to deal with me as now your experience may be as bad :D

That's fine,I am an outsider looking in and I have not seen your behavior as being an upstanding salesman or doing good buisness.So I myself would not buy anything from you and if someone I know was going to purchase something from you I would direct them to this thread.

BTW my name is not James and for the people bashing me about lurking the classified section, don't be pissed off that i am on here finding good deals. On another note, the only "parts car" i have bought off this club was "dom the douche's" car that if you dont know anything about that i can understand why your badmouthing me :D

Great statement from a buisness man.:bigok:



Guess what? The wheels were bent! i didnt see them. I refunded him for the misunderstanding. Im still a bad guy? Only because he wants me to be :lol2:

Were you on some form of mind altering drug or do you have an eyesight problem?You can see the bends a mile away.

You come across as a scam artist to me.........and a terrible buisness man.


Rant over

what am i arguing about? i asked you a question you havnt answered. I said stop pming me because all i got were negative PMs from you with an attitude. So you post my responses on here to make me look bad instead of just asking to correct it differently.

Grow up?

what is the question? i'm afraid i missed it.

i think it's the attitude by which you handle a bad complaint that is not right. now, i don't know if he ever agreed to the 150 bucks, or did u just send it? should have never sent out bent rim in the 1st place and coulda handled it a lot better.
i wasnt aware of the bends until he got the wheels and contacted me. We have gone over this. And yes he "preferred the partial refund"

that's just ridiculous. from the beginning, all i've wanted is to solve this matter amicably and peacefully.
still waiting on a solution from you

Paypal him the $50...if he doesn't want it....donate it to charity and leave it alone

That won't leave any room for complaints with what has been said in all the posts.

Another 2 cents :)
He doesnt want it im not going to just throw it away lol... hes cause more than 50 in damage to my reputation in my eyes...

^You just joined today...Who are you? You have not been here long enough to know how great of a seller greddy actually is, so...you have no right to comment on him being a scam artist.

what is the question? i'm afraid i missed it.

how to fix the situation? you dont want a refund and you wont offer a solution...

greddy, just post the following:

original total payment by xtm
originial shipping paied by xtm.

that was for 4 working rims, just work it out to what shipping 1 working rim, 1 unbalanced (i bet lightly bent) rims, and 2 rims needing heavily repair not drivable would cost. then adjust accordingly, as xtm was gonna pay shipping anyway.

I have had a similar problem in the past with a customer......the work was done..and for whatever reason the customer wasn't happy. The person never complained to me at all, about anything...he reported it to the governing body of the professional organization that I belong. They had him come in..checked the work..and they found nothing wrong with it.......In fact they said it was better than "standard of care"

After all that...I still refunded ALL of the persons money. I know...legally I wasn't responsible for the problem....it wasn't even reasonable ...but the money went back so I could feel good about how I handled it...It had nothing to do with the other person at all....

^You just joined today...Who are you? You have not been here long enough to know how great of a seller greddy actually is, so...you have no right to comment on him being a scam artist.

I have been reading this forum for over a year and decided to join today to post a comment.This transaction is ridiculous and of course you will stick up for someone you know personally.I know an internet scam when I see one.Refund the guy for the bent wheels to the tune of $50 more since that would be fair or send him 2 good wheels........that is an easy fix for the situation.

How about you both PM someone( I'll do it :( ) with what you want to end this right now......and let's get it over with....

greddy, just post the following:

original total payment by xtm
originial shipping paied by xtm.

that was for 4 working rims, just work it out to what shipping 1 working rim, 1 unbalanced (i bet lightly bent) rims, and 2 rims needing heavily repair not drivable would cost. then adjust accordingly, as xtm was gonna pay shipping anyway.

shipping was same for all wheels? im confused...

I have had a similar problem in the past with a customer......the work was done..and for whatever reason the customer wasn't happy. The person never complained to me at all, about anything...he reported it to the governing body of the professional organization that I belong. They had him come in..checked the work..and they found nothing wrong with it.......In fact they said it was better than "standard of care"

After all that...I still refunded ALL of the persons money. I know...legally I wasn't responsible for the problem....it wasn't even reasonable ...but the money went back so I could feel good about how I handled it...It had nothing to do with the other person at all....

well if i were to just throw money at him i feel like i would be at a loss now because of my new bad reputation that will lose so much money for the rest of my time remaining here. But, i understand what you mean. Hes going to fix them probably to perfect condition, which is not what he paid for anyway, and try to justify refunding and other request from me. And i still havnt seen the other supposedly bent wheels. Just one that was a shit wheel to begin with that had scratches on the spokes.

I have been reading this forum for over a year and decided to join today to post a comment.This transaction is ridiculous and of course you will stick up for someone you know personally.I know an internet scam when I see one.Refund the guy for the bent wheels to the tune of $50 more since that would be fair or send him 2 good wheels........that is an easy fix for the situation.

lol i still dont know who you are or why your commenting here. He said he doesnt want the additional refund. Keep your comments to yourself if you dont even know either xtemisisx or myself. Thanks

I have been reading this forum for over a year and decided to join today to post a comment.This transaction is ridiculous and of course you will stick up for someone you know personally.I know an internet scam when I see one.Refund the guy for the bent wheels to the tune of $50 more since that would be fair or send him 2 good wheels........that is an easy fix for the situation.

Really? Then you must have seen all of the great comments made about him being a wonderful seller, and you must have read about over 100 different transactions he had done and people have been satisifyed with. Right? Do you really think he would try to scam somebody, if he is planning on parting out more cars. No, i don't think so. If he was a scammer, he would not have sold over 100 perfectly working parts to people. He was unaware of the bend. He is NOT a scammer, and he will part out more RX8's. and people WILL be satisfied with his parts.

well i would be parting out more cars, but not anymore. Mostly because this website was my inspiration for starting my business. Now thats not looking so good and i wouldnt ever be able to afford the vendor fees. Hence my threads being closed. :D

well, 1st ur reputation can be fixed, and i see it many times on these threads.

basically, i did not go into all my research, u may wanna post the original price you charged him at, and what he paid for shipping.

next, since you basically sold him something he did not want, and shipping anything anymore will just make it worst, lets count the 1good rim + 1 below average + 2 bad rim as 2.25 good rims, you should take the original price/4 * 2.25. and refund him the difference.

since he had agreed to paid for shipping of 4 good rims, you should also cover some cost of shipping a bad product. then i am sure ur rep will be clear on the forum.. but i still advice you to get approved before you go on another part buying selling spree .

so what you want the other 50 dollars?? sounds like your trying to make more of a profit. Why is that such a big deal.... You could have just told me either give you the 200 dollars or your going to attempt to ruin my reputation with everyone because it would be funny

You brought it upon yourself. You could have 100 positive sales on here..... it only takes one shady deal to squash it. Guess which feedback that will ring into people's ear when they go to buy something off you in the future, 1 of ur positives ones or this one? This guy presented all the evidence of your dialogue with regards to this issue, and it is undeniable that you were in the wrong as a seller. You handled it badly. A simple "Im human, i screwed up, here is half your $ back, throw the bad wheels in the garbage, sorry for the inconvenience, hope you buy more things off me in the future".

Ur rep can be repaired back to 100%. Just make a formal apology right here, right now along with a fair reimbursement. Thats all. Not that you give a rats ass, but i would re-consider buying something off you if i saw such a post. Would speak volumes for your professionalism...and stop being so hostile dog, its not helping you.

lol i still dont know who you are or why your commenting here. He said he doesnt want the additional refund. Keep your comments to yourself if you dont even know either xtemisisx or myself. Thanks

I know xtemisisx from another forum so I can comment,thanks for playing.I look thru this forum because of work since I work for a Ford/Mazda dealer so I can be up to date on things that my customers may have or want and even steer them in the right direction.

So thank you jackass

A Judge will always tell you "ignorance is not an excuse"

You should have inspected the rims in order to know how to describe them when posting them for sale.

Really? Then you must have seen all of the great comments made about him being a wonderful seller, and you must have read about over 100 different transactions he had done and people have been satisifyed with. Right? Do you really think he would try to scam somebody, if he is planning on parting out more cars. No, i don't think so. If he was a scammer, he would not have sold over 100 perfectly working parts to people. He was unaware of the bend. He is NOT a scammer, and he will part out more RX8's. and people WILL be satisfied with his parts.


Is he your boyfriend or do you just get a cut of the profits?

well i would be parting out more cars, but not anymore. Mostly because this website was my inspiration for starting my business. Now thats not looking so good and i wouldnt ever be able to afford the vendor fees. Hence my threads being closed. :D


Another scammer bites the dust:)

You brought it upon yourself. You could have 100 positive sales on here..... it only takes one shady deal to squash it. Guess which feedback that will ring into people's ear when they go to buy something off you in the future, 1 of ur positives ones or this one? This guy presented all the evidence of your dialogue with regards to this issue, and it is undeniable that you were in the wrong as a seller. You handled it badly. A simple "Im human, i screwed up, here is half your $ back, throw the bad wheels in the garbage, sorry for the inconvenience, hope you buy more things off me in the future".

Ur rep can be repaired back to 100%. Just make a formal apology right here, right now along with a fair reimbursement. Thats all. Not that you give a rats ass, but i would re-consider buying something off you if i saw such a post. Would speak volumes for your professionalism...and stop being so hostile dog, its not helping you.

Fantastic post and great way to present a solution.

well, 1st ur reputation can be fixed, and i see it many times on these threads.

basically, i did not go into all my research, u may wanna post the original price you charged him at, and what he paid for shipping.

next, since you basically sold him something he did not want, and shipping anything anymore will just make it worst, lets count the 1good rim + 1 below average + 2 bad rim as 2.25 good rims, you should take the original price/4 * 2.25. and refund him the difference.

since he had agreed to paid for shipping of 4 good rims, you should also cover some cost of shipping a bad product. then i am sure ur rep will be clear on the forum.. but i still advice you to get approved before you go on another part buying selling spree .
I didnt buy these parts they were from BERG racing on here :D he had parts i had a car so we traded.

His original price= 500 shipped for four rims
Shipping costs- 130
Refunded- 150

His investment- 220 shipped. I think thats even fair for one good rim and a decent rim. So he can scrap the two bad ones, buy two more good rims for the same price and be cheaper than any other set of wheels sold on here.



You brought it upon yourself. You could have 100 positive sales on here..... it only takes one shady deal to squash it. Guess which feedback that will ring into people's ear when they go to buy something off you in the future, 1 of ur positives ones or this one? This guy presented all the evidence of your dialogue with regards to this issue, and it is undeniable that you were in the wrong as a seller. You handled it badly. A simple "Im human, i screwed up, here is half your $ back, throw the bad wheels in the garbage, sorry for the inconvenience, hope you buy more things off me in the future".

Ur rep can be repaired back to 100%. Just make a formal apology right here, right now along with a fair reimbursement. Thats all. Not that you give a rats ass, but i would re-consider buying something off you if i saw such a post. Would speak volumes for your professionalism.

I understand. Ive made my apology to him already, reimbursed what we agreed on, asked to refund more (didnt want it?), and now im still waiting on an answer what he wants to do.

Its not like im not trying to fix this...

I really don't appreciate you accusing me of being a theif, and a liar. You're neglecting points I've already made just to prove your case.

Here are the facts:

I brought my wheels to wheel collision in bath, pa. they have a website, www.wheelcollision.com

I am going to get the wheels fixed to brand new. They will all be sanded and painted to the tune of $600, out of my own pocket.

But before I get them painted, I need to have then straightened.
Straighten Aluminum Wheel $ 75 - $180

even if the wheels only cost 75 a piece of fix (which they'll obviously cost more), 75 times 3 = $225+tax. I knew this when i asked for $200 or a full refund, knowing full well that I would still be losing money, but I was simply trying to make the best out of the situation, and make it as easy as possible on both us.

So yes, I am getting the wheels fixed to perfect. and no, i'm not asking you to pay anything more than you owe me. In fact, I'm asking less.

That's all I have to say about that.

Note: You never once apologized, and you've insisted that this on your terms at all times. All you've done is insult my character. I mean for fucks sake, you haggled with my refund request. wtf is that about?

A Judge will always tell you "ignorance is not an excuse"

You should have inspected the rims in order to know how to describe them when posting them for sale.

i didnt look that closely at the back of the rims, the front of the wheels were not bent that i could see. and you are not a judge...?

Another scammer bites the dust:)

I wouldnt quite call him a scammer. Just an oppurtunist that faultered a bit on a sale, which when not handled correctly, snowballed into an avalanche.

Is he your boyfriend or do you just get a cut of the profits?

Neither. I'm just trying to help him out, because i know he is a great seller.


And for everyone else. When you buy something on ebay, you look at the sellers feedback...correct? Well, say greddy is a seller on ebay. Now his feedback score just went to 99%. He had 100 different sales, and ONE person was not satisfied. And you are saying you would never buy something from him...So you would never buy something from a seller on ebay with 99% feedback? Because i'm pretty sure that most of you would.

i thought u said earlier that he paid 100 of the shipping cost?

type carefully, 17 ppl reading this thread including a mod.

I really don't appreciate you accusing me of being a theif, and a liar. You're neglecting points I've already made just to prove your case.

Here are the facts:

I brought my wheels to wheel collision in bath, pa. they have a website, www.wheelcollision.com

I am going to get the wheels fixed to brand new. They will all be sanded and painted to the tune of $600, out of my own pocket.

But before I get them painted, I need to have then straightened.


even if the wheels only cost 75 a piece of fix (which they'll obviously cost more), 75 times 3 = $225+tax. I knew this when i asked for $200 or a full refund, knowing full well that I would still be losing money, but I was simply trying to make the best out of the situation, and make it as easy as possible on both us.

So yes, I am getting the wheels fixed to perfect. and no, i'm not asking you to pay anything more than you owe me. In fact, I'm asking less.

That's all I have to say about that.

Note: You never once apologizes, and you've insisted that this on your terms at all times. I mean for fucks sake, you haggled with my refund request. wtf is that about?


ok so fixing the wheels to "perfect condition" is your choice not mine. Im still waiting....

i didnt accuse you of being a thief and liar where do you get that? your still arguing... CALM DOWN?

i thought u said earlier that he paid 100 of the shipping cost?

type carefully, 17 ppl reading this thread including a mod.

yea he paid 100 for shipping. Shipping cost 130. Im confused still ?

I wouldnt quite call him a scammer. Just an oppurtunist that faultered a bit on a sale, which when not handled correctly, snowballed into an avalanche.

You are correct on that,I may have gotten overzealous by his boyfriend sticking up for him and popping off to me on here.

You are correct on that,I may have gotten overzealous by his boyfriend sticking up for him and popping off to me on here.

Don't call people names. You have not been in the forums long enough to do that. You should be banned.

so did he paid

500 bucks for rim
100 for shipping?

so in total he had paid 600 bucks?

I apprichate it imput.

thanks imput- this is what makes it hard to have a clean discussion. Im trying to work it out- he doesnt want a refund and wont tell me what he wants. Im sure in 5 minutes he will post something else about how im calling him a liar and still arguing...

Don't call people names. You have not been in the forums long enough to do that. You should be banned.


Then report me to a mod and have them warn me or ban me.I can think of alot worse things to say than that and it would be ridiculous to ban someone over that comment.

so did he paid

500 bucks for rim
100 for shipping?

so in total he had paid 600 bucks?

No, he paid $500 total. $400 was for the wheels, $100 was for the shipping cost. It cost greddy $130 to ship, but he only charged him $100.

can you not read?? when did i ever say i didn't want "the rest" of the refund.


i think you're making things up.

here's my math. $75/wheel TIMES 3 WHEELS = $225+tax to get the wheels straightened. PAINT IS ANOTHER $600 ON TOP OF THE THEORETICAL FIGURE OF 225, which is going to be more BECAUSE THE WHEELS ARE BENT SO BADLY.


does anybody else understand that, or am i the only one???

so did he paid

500 bucks for rim
100 for shipping?

so in total he had paid 600 bucks?

no he paid 400 for the wheels and 100 for shipping

shipping was 30 more than i quoted.

I refunded 150 for wheels being bent.

he has 220 tied up in them, well i cant count the 30 really because he wasnt asked to pay 130 for shipping...

thanks imput- this is what makes it hard to have a clean discussion. Im trying to work it out- he doesnt want a refund and wont tell me what he wants. Im sure in 5 minutes he will post something else about how im calling him a liar and still arguing...


Then handle it by a pm or give him the other $50 he asked for,it is a simple fix and admit that you made a mistake.You had to have seen the bent wheels if you packaged then up..........C'mon now

^I already cleared that up.




Cheers!

can you not read?? when did i ever say i didn't want "the rest" of the refund.


i think you're making things up.

here's my math. $75/wheel TIMES 3 WHEELS = $225+tax to get the wheels straightened. PAINT IS ANOTHER $600 ON TOP OF THE THEORETICAL FIGURE OF 225, which is going to be more BECAUSE THE WHEELS ARE BENT SO BADLY.


does anybody else understand that, or am i the only one???

your the only one. Im not paying for all your repairs on the wheels. Im refunding what was misrepresented. What you do with the wheels ( painting, sanding, balancing, adding spinners, casting to carbon fiber) whatever is not my responsibility.

And you posted uh, a page ago, that you didnt want the other 50 refunded because it wouldnt matter anymore. ?

X: Take the $50 and let it end...

G: Apologize....and Send him the $50...and end it

ahh, alrite then, greddy is in the clear than.

original deal
4 used wheel in working condition no bend = 400 bucks + buyer pay shipping

wheel bad

new deal
1 used wheel working condition no bend, 1 used wheel need light adjustment, 2 used bend wheel. = 250 bucks +buyer pay shipping, if anything i would refund an additional 50 bucks due to false advertisement and the trouble of him having to get the used slightly bend wheel operational and this should be cleared..

and u should be cleared. it is his choice to go the more expensive route of repairing 2 bend wheels. sometime it's better to buy another good used wheel.

X: Take the $50 and let it end...

G: Apologize....and Send him the $50...and end it




+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Then report me to a mod and have them warn me or ban me.I can think of alot worse things to say than that and it would be ridiculous to ban someone over that comment.

Don't call greddy a scammer; he has sold several products, and he screwed up on one (bad) and it's been escalated. IMO This is pointless, just return the money for the 3 damaged rims + shipping ( of the three rims ) back to xt.

your the only one. Im not paying for all your repairs on the wheels. Im refunding what was misrepresented. What you do with the wheels ( painting, sanding, balancing, adding spinners, casting to carbon fiber) whatever is not my responsibility.

And you posted uh, a page ago, that you didnt want the other 50 refunded because it wouldnt matter anymore. ?

dude, i've never asked you to pay for paint. EVER. i'm asking you to pay for what was misreprented (omg, it's like you already said that): 3 BENT WHEELS. To fix 3 bent wheels is a MINIMUM of 225, and I'm only asked for 200. and when i say fix, i mean "make them straight" not "repaint them, in addition to making them straight"

and why would i turn down $50? it was either a typo, or a misunderstanding on your end.

So yes, I am getting the wheels fixed to perfect. and no, i'm not asking you to pay anything more than you owe me. In fact, I'm asking less.

That's all I have to say about that.

There is you telling him you do not want any more money.

ctme, it is not his fault u brought the wheel to repair center, his part of the deal was he was gonna sell u 4 unbent wheel, he has refunded appropriately for what he screwed up on, which is 1.75 rims. he could add 50 bucks as courtesy.

it is not his job to repair the wheels to unbend condition, especially when the wheels are basically "totaled" in term or cost to acquire another good unbent used one is less than those of repairing. just like insurance company will not repair ur car when it's totaled, and if u choose to repair it, they will not cover it.


IMO, greddy has upheld his end of the bargain (still need vendor approval or he should keep his sell threads shut XD)

I apologize xtemisisx, i deleted your thread so please delete this one.

I offer a 50 dollar additional refund to you if you want it or not it will be sent tomorrow evening.

I hope people understand the confusion and don't still think im a scam artists or whatever....

IMO This is pointless, just return the money for the 3 damaged rims + shipping ( of the three rims ) back to xt.

that's all i've wanted from the begining.

I apologize xtemisisx, i deleted your thread so please delete this one.

I offer a 50 dollar additional refund to you if you want it or not it will be sent tomorrow evening.

I hope people understand the confusion and don't still think im a scam artists or whatever....

yes, i would appreciate the $50 greatly. thank you.

These people can't read and/or comprehend, seriously.

HE'S ASKING LESS BY ASKING FOR $200 WHEN IT WILL COST HIM AT THE VERY LEAST $225...Is it really that hard to understand?


Thank you Jesus...Hopefully this is done now.

:grouphug:

That was like pissing out a kidney stone:lol:

Thanks Guys

Case close, i think, the refund has covered the bad merchandise + courtesy

my suggestion to xtmesis, if u have not repair the rims, don't repair the 2 bent ones, 9 out of 10 times its cheaper to acquire new rims. repaired rims are also weaker and more prone to future bending.

I apologize xtemisisx, i deleted your thread so please delete this one.

I offer a 50 dollar additional refund to you if you want it or not it will be sent tomorrow evening.

I hope people understand the confusion and don't still think im a scam artists or whatever....



Now there is a start of a solution.Thank you.



X,
take the fix to this situation.

These people can't read and/or comprehend, seriously.

HE'S ASKING LESS BY ASKING FOR $200 WHEN IT WILL COST HIM AT THE VERY LEAST $225...Is it really that hard to understand?


Thank you Jesus...Hopefully this is done now.

i didn't think so....

pleasegivemyfiftyamerikindollers,kaythnxbai!

Good, now you two hug and make up. :)

dont try to argue anymore. its over. You chose to take it to that place. Once again, im not reimbursing your repairs, im refunding the value of the wheels i sold you. Thanks

^^ Now you're both being unreasonable ......AGAIN:(

LET IT END!

and i really hope you didnt start this whole thread because of the fifty dollars... that would be quite "teh dickheaded moves" on your part

Shovel :)

dont try to argue anymore. its over. You chose to take it to that place. Once again, im not reimbursing your repairs, im refunding the value of the wheels i sold you. Thanks



Are you retarded? Seriously?..I'm not trying to be a dick but it would make ALL of your post and responses make a whole lot more sense.

dont try to argue anymore. its over. You chose to take it to that place. Once again, im not reimbursing your repairs, im refunding the value of the wheels i sold you. Thanks

the only point i'm arguing anymore is that you're the only one arguing.

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^those are what you're arguing. STOP IT.

sorry dannobre ! :whipping:

can you delete the thread now that you got what you wanted?

^^ Now you're both being unreasonable ......AGAIN:(

LET IT END!

AMEN to that brother!

can you delete the thread now that you got what you wanted?

i don't see cash in my pocket.

xtmesisx he said he would send you the money tomorrow night. So once he sends you the money, you should delete this thread.

and BOTH of you should just do like the beatles and "Let it Be"

This thread is being locked, but not deleted.

xtmesisx can contact me if payment is made as promised, and it can be deleted or if not received in a reasonable time, then it can be re-opened.

Maybe Greddy might read it thru again, he may have missed the point......

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Im not playing sides, but who says the buyer didnt swap out his shit rims for greddy's good rims? Why did he need rims to begin with?

xtsesisx pm'ed that he HAS received $50 fromGreddy.

S