So the economy(specifically my families) ain't doing so well and i'm forced to sell my car asap..

But I refuse to give up! I've already selected my next project car. I'm going an entirely different route, though equally as geeky :)


http://www.diseno-art.com/images/honda_insight_001.jpg

With mods can make well over 100MPG.

I say efficiency is the future and i'll have fun even if its on a much smaller budget! :)

http://www.diseno-art.com/images/honda_insight_001.jpg

hmm i wonder why the rear wheels are hidden behind the rear fender. might have trouble fitting 16x10's on there lol.. wide body insight?

^ less wind resistance?

yep tiny little drag coefficient. Only 165's all around :D

I've already found some nice RPF1's that might fit :D

why go to the extreme???

This is the Insight you need:

http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/lht-performance/425659-k20a-insight-lht.html

^^^ wow, that thing puts down more HP and gets 3 times the mpg that we do.
:rofl:

Ha maybe after school ill drop a F20 and s2000 subframe :D

But in the meantime i'll be modding it for max MPG!

seems like hybrids is a scam
Wait. There must be some mistake. How can an autobahn-inspired performance machine beat one of the most fuel-efficient cars ever made?

It looks like that is exactly what happened on a 545-mile London-Geneva run, when a diesel-powered BMW 5-series posted better MPG stats than a petrol-based Toyota Prius hybrid. The BMW 520d with a 2.0-liter diesel engine and regenerative braking posted an impressive 41.9 mpg - about 0.9 mpg better than a full hybrid Prius. The difference may not seem huge. But given that the Prius weighs about 500 lb less, BMW's fuel economy lead was significant enough to raise new questions about which drivetrain technologies are more environmentally viable and should become the future mainstream of sustainable transport.

According to our partner site Technoride, the 5-series' triumph over Prius can be attributed to "a series of energy-saving features BMW calls EfficientDynamics: battery recharge when braking, good aerodynamics, low rolling resistance, a continuous fuel consumption gauge on the dashboard, and a six-speed manual transmission that is rated as improving fuel economy by about 10%."

For more on this story read the full article here.

Check out some highlights from PC Magazine's recent Green Issue, on newsstands and online now:

http://www.goodcleantech.com/2008/03/bmw_beats_prius_in_mpgs.php

Check the prices at the gas pump next time yoiu go to a gas station with diesel... Nearly a dollar more a gallon im sure you'll find out mr playdoh...

and the Prius aint a manual insight

go to www.99mpg.com

:eyetwitch .......

Check the prices at the gas pump next time yoiu go to a gas station with diesel... Nearly a dollar more a gallon im sure you'll find out mr playdoh...

im just making a point that its not that much more fuel efficient than competing technology, if money has to be in the equation its not that much better than a small corola or civic or yaris on regular gas too and cost significantly more. the extra cost takes years to recover vs buying a civic or yaris

yea...i would rather have a deisel than a hybrid as well...hybrids are semi new technology where as diesels are known to last forever basically plus u get all that TORQUE

Hybrids costs more than non hybrids. This cracks me up. To me the point of a hybrid is to save money. This way you just spend more of it up front. To the "greens" out there it's all about pollution. Too bad those batteries will never biodegrade.

True that diesel is more expensive (it shouldn't be) but with so much greater mileage it offsets the price difference. If you are really adventuresome you can make your own biodiesel from waste cooking oil. It'll cost you some money and time but from a price standpoint you'd be ahead if that's all you care about. I've pondered getting into making biodiesel with a friend. I've already got a pretty good source of cooking oil lined up.

yea...i would rather have a deisel than a hybrid as well...hybrids are semi new technology where as diesels are known to last forever basically plus u get all that TORQUE

dude hybrids have a TON of torque! Thats what the battery is, all torque. We have a Prius and it can beat an 8 of the line. Ouch...

Hybrids costs more than non hybrids. This cracks me up. To me the point of a hybrid is to save money. This way you just spend more of it up front. To the "greens" out there it's all about pollution. Too bad those batteries will never biodegrade.

True that diesel is more expensive (it shouldn't be) but with so much greater mileage it offsets the price difference. If you are really adventuresome you can make your own biodiesel from waste cooking oil. It'll cost you some money and time but from a price standpoint you'd be ahead if that's all you care about. I've pondered getting into making biodiesel with a friend. I've already got a pretty good source of cooking oil lined up.

Found a 2001 Insight for 6k w/ 110kmiles and warranty till 150k. Batterys are under warranty as well.

Found a 2002 Jetta TDi w/ 120k miles for 13k and it sold promptly after.

dude hybrids have a TON of torque! Thats what the battery is, all torque. We have a Prius and it can beat an 8 of the line. Ouch...

yep that electric whirrrrrrrr

dude hybrids have a TON of torque! Thats what the battery is, all torque. We have a Prius and it can beat an 8 of the line. Ouch...

Lmao, I'm sorry but that's really sad.

Now if I could have anything, it'd be a 123d.

That BMW kills me with lust

why isnt there a hybrid for the 8? even an aftermarket one?

even an aftermarket one?

yes there is, its called the turbinator, it improves your fuel efficiency. google or wiki it

mmmm so update. My car is going up on April 8th on Ebay.

Sigh sadness

But! I have recently got wind of possibly a very cheap built K20A coming my way.

Sayin 200whp in 1700lb chasis?

you sound like the kind that have problem making up your mind. taking the big depreication hit and getting a k20A now? :p ebay?
im going to have to bet that this wont go down, dosnt seem like you put that much thought into it.

good lucks though if you do go through with it.

Put plenty of thought into it. When I say cheap, I mean in the free factory.

I didnt want to sell my car. I just have to. 10k was my new car budget so if I get a high mileage 2000 for around 6-7k that gives me some space to have fun.

Its a built K20A3 from a friend. Not the ideal one to have, but it put out a safe 195whp and has 35k miles.