View Full Version : Any owners here with a S2000?
DailyDriver2k5 03-17-2008, 04:28 PM These gas prices are killing my wife and I with driving the Titan around, she is 10 minutes from work, I am 55 miles one way . $40 bucks to fill up the 8 and the 8 will last her the whole week. If i Take the 8 , it last 2-2.5 days , barely depending on my driving style.:naughty:
Driving the Titan with $70 buck fill ups will last her till Thurday evening if she fills up on a Monday, If i take it, it will last just a day and a half , with being easy on it. Can't sell it 6k in the hole, and the value has plumeted even more with these outrageous gas prices.
We have to get a 3rd vehicle by May, before this $4 dollar jump in gas. Were going to have to get a 3rd vehicle, we want something fun,gets decent milage, and has decent looks. Here is what we like and what i found out on each vehicle we like.Did some research on the S2000, gets about 340-380 miles on one tank of gas. The RSX-Type S Manual gets 430 miles on a tank of gas. And a 95 Nissan 240sx gets 480 miles on gas. Budget is 10k with 2k in cash down. Seen a 2000 S2000 with 98k for $9800 bucks, of course the RSX is much cheaper and even more so a 95 240sx,$2000-3000 dollar range.
But with owning the RX-8 I love high revving engines now, i would be status quo with the other two, but i would be happy if we could get a S2000. Anybody with one getting even close to that milage that i mentioned above?
IcarusX8 03-17-2008, 04:59 PM I don't own one but I'd say get an Accord. Obviously not considered "sporty" which I can tell you're hoping for but you already have an 8 so it doesn't matter :)
The Accord will do you justice and you can easily find a good one for 10k.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-Honda-Civic-Si-Cruise-Sunroof-CD-A-C-Keyless-Entry_W0QQitemZ270219908398QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m270219908398
So that styling isn't so hot, but it is extremely practical, a hoot to drive, loves to rev, and gets good MPGs.
Looks better in blue...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/05-SI-VTEC-Hatchback-5-Speed-LOW-MILES-INSPECTED-SI_W0QQitemZ200207231032QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item20 0207231032
laythor 03-17-2008, 05:20 PM FriendlyCat has the s2000cr... very nice little car.
imput1234 03-17-2008, 05:28 PM One of my good friends has an S2000, and according to him he gets 29-20MPG on highway.
Detrich 03-17-2008, 06:07 PM a bicycle will get better gas mileage with the way gas prices are these days- thanks to the chimp in the white house.
AdoRe 03-17-2008, 07:17 PM nice car very diffrent to the 8 (2doors,2seat) but nice ..not as coomfy as the 8 but much more gas saver!
Big_Mike_4488 03-17-2008, 07:18 PM I'd get some kind of old Accord or Civic and save some money. (Unless you have money to burn.) Can't really see the point of having an RX8 and an S2000.
TopGear8 03-17-2008, 08:13 PM Get a honda fit.
tiltmode43 03-17-2008, 08:24 PM Mixed driving (highway/streets/hard on it) my friend just saw 24mpg. I'll show him this thread...
tiltmode43 03-17-2008, 08:25 PM I'd get some kind of old Accord or Civic and save some money. (Unless you have money to burn.) Can't really see the point of having an RX8 and an S2000.
Depends on mods ~ modded s2k weekend car near stock rx8 DD :lol:
mysql 03-17-2008, 08:28 PM wait till the 2009 models come out. You can get a honda Accord diesel that gets ~60 mpg. Suburu is also pushing out a diesel boxter engine that should beat the economy of the econoboxes.
Diesel may run you $1 more or so than regular gas, but do the math and you'll see which side comes out on top.
alexisthemovie 03-17-2008, 08:28 PM Mixed driving (highway/streets/hard on it) my friend just saw 24mpg. I'll show him this thread...
not really that hard on it...75% fwy going ~70-75mph
21-24 mpg
240-260/tank TOPS (I fill up when there are NO bars left on the digital gauge)
alexisthemovie 03-17-2008, 08:32 PM I say get a 94-01 integra GSR for ~$5-6k in good condition. 8k+ rpm fun and 35mpg if you drive it like a geo metro. 25MPG if you drive it hard...
YaXMaNGTO 03-17-2008, 09:21 PM Do you folks who are concerned with gas mileage actually take a minute to do the simple arithmetic to calculate what a higher mpg car will actually save you per month? Even with $4 a gallon prices? If you haven't, I invite you to do it. If you're mathematically inept enough that you can't do it (like some if not most Americans unfortunately are), well, have fun your new vehicle.
playdoh43 03-17-2008, 10:25 PM Do you folks who are concerned with gas mileage actually take a minute to do the simple arithmetic to calculate what a higher mpg car will actually save you per month? Even with $4 a gallon prices? If you haven't, I invite you to do it. If you're mathematically inept enough that you can't do it (like some if not most Americans unfortunately are), well, have fun your new vehicle.
+1 good comment
playdoh43 03-17-2008, 10:27 PM solution: sell Titan, who cares if youre upside down, you will just end up even more upside down as gas price rise and resale value plunge. loosing some money is better than having a car you dont drive! selling now and loose some money is better than buying a car you dont drive and selling later and loose a lot of money.
sell RX-8.
Buy Lotus Elise,
buy bicycle from Walmart for wife.
Wife needs to stay in shape.
Wife ride bike to work,
you drive elise to work.
tiltmode43 03-17-2008, 11:37 PM Do you folks who are concerned with gas mileage actually take a minute to do the simple arithmetic to calculate what a higher mpg car will actually save you per month? Even with $4 a gallon prices? If you haven't, I invite you to do it. If you're mathematically inept enough that you can't do it (like some if not most Americans unfortunately are), well, have fun your new vehicle.
Though this comment is perfectly valid I'll play devils advocate just for fun.
18mpg, 15,000mi/yr @ $4.00/gallon = $3,333.33
28mpg, 15,000mi/yr @ $3.70/gallon = 1,982.14
So, $1,351.19 extra spent per year on gas. Well, some may say thats not much. Consider, however, owning a titan in addition ~ I gave a guesstimate of 16mpg but it sounds like it might be doing worse...
16mpg, 15,000mi/yr @ $3.70/gallon = $3,468.75
Thats $6,802.08/year on gas. If the 8 were driven much less and a higher mpg car put in its place (10mpg better isn't unimaginable) Saving $1,351.19 is roughly a 20% savings in gasoline (19.9%), which some may consider decent. Also, perhaps an individual has other expenses that have come up since owning the car? Like it or not some have to pinch pennies for gas (I'm a college student, wow do I know the feeling!) and sometimes the prices/mileage just seem ridiculous. Also, if one plans on keeping a certain car for a certain number of years multiply the savings times that many years (even without factoring in rising gas prices purchasing a 28mpg car and keeping it for 5 yrs vs the 8 for 5yrs yields a $6,755.95 savings - down payment on a new car/extra change along the way - factor in gas inflation and this could be $8-9,000.00 extra)
What am I saying? For those of us who will make it work no matter what the prices are (wow, check out gas prices in eastern europe, I thought they were decent until I realized it was in liters!) then the savings may be nominal. For others who either pinch pennies or are looking more long term it is easily justifiable to purchase a better mpg car.
I vote rsx-s; Interior is great, looks are classy/sophisticated for the $$ and if you ever plan on modifying the engines respond amazingly...
I am so tired of the stupid american cliché; it may seem relatively true but it seems so trendy to put down the country we live in. By no means are we all well educated or (in some people's opinions) as intelligent as other portions of the world but this is not to say other countries haven't had ups and downs. I've been all over the world from a youthful perspective and talked to other's of the same age everywhere from Costa Rica to Russia to Australia. One of the most notable things that I've noticed is that essentially, people are people - no matter where they live; 'the world' just seems to think Americans's leadership is a direct reflection of all of it's citizens...
[/rant] Sorry about that, I've just seen way too many 'stupid american' comments today...
BTW YaXMaNGTO, whats your car pushing? GTO's were a bit of a hidden love of mine for a while...
edit: After reading that a second time I'm realizing how much it contradicts the stereotypical college student's extreme liberalism and disdain for our country haha. For the record I do not support the war, I did not support Bush, my favorite color is green and I loooovveee anything and everything mango.
playdoh43 03-18-2008, 12:37 AM ^^^nerd
tiltmode43 03-18-2008, 12:44 AM ^^^nerd
But I thought nerds were supposed to be good at computer shit? Maybe good grades? Anti social perhaps?
:squint:
hehe, Just trying to distract myself from studying for finals, thats all...
playdoh43 03-18-2008, 02:45 AM just jokin lol good luck, isnt it kinda early for finals? most schools are just entering spring break
galaxy07 03-18-2008, 03:30 AM ive recently owned a s2000, but the mpg was not all that different from the 8. i actually preferred the 8 because it was more practical. you should probably invest in a civic
tiltmode43 03-18-2008, 04:24 AM just jokin lol good luck, isnt it kinda early for finals? most schools are just entering spring break
quarter system, finals this week, spring break next, then new quarter
lol I know joking
HCTR154 03-18-2008, 05:31 AM I am in a similar situation with my 8. My wife drives a Dodge Ram quad cab with 360 V8, which averages about 13-14 mpg regardless of city or highway. Of course, we all know the 8 averages about 18-19 mpg.
I would lean towards a Civic, but I have a cousin who has a Ford Contour SVT that is actually a pretty fun car to drive. Mileage is respectable, around 24-25 mpg. Finding one that hasn't been thrashed is a problem, since the last year of production was 2000 or 2001.
Right before I left for Kosovo, I had a friend who was unloading a 2004 Chevy Aveo sedan. Ok, I know Aveo is not the coolest car around, but it get 34-35 mpg and the asking price was $7,000. Mileage was around 50,xxx if I recall. Well, I thought about it, but just couldn't make up my mind. Of course he sold the car and now I'm still looking for a 3rd car to save money! With high gas prices becoming a permanent thing, more efficient cars in good condition will become harder to find, so if you find one, jump on it.
j_tso 03-18-2008, 05:39 AM I'm curious what did you (to the OP or anyone in the same situation) need a truck for in the first place, if you could replace it with a small car?
VikingDJ 03-18-2008, 06:01 AM ive recently owned a s2000, but the mpg was not all that different from the 8. i actually preferred the 8 because it was more practical. you should probably invest in a civic
Hmm. Interesting you come to that conclusion. I made the switch from the RX8 to an S2000, and I gotta say the MPG is very noticable. I've gotten 28-30mpg several times cruising at 70-75mph highway, and in normal city driving I can pull off 23-24. Granted, if driven at high rpms, I will agree, the S2K will guzzle gas, not as bad as the RX8, but the MPG is closer. Under highway and normal driving that isn't spirited, there is indeed a difference, and it's quite noticable.
I had an 01 S2000 after selling my RX8, but 9 months later got rid of it for an 06, and I did lose a little bit of MPG, but that might be because it's new, and also a bigger displacement engine with more torque and different gearing. I pulled off 32mpg on the 01 highway, and averaged about 25mpg with 50-50 city highway.
Now for my 04 RX8, I could never pull off more then 22-23mpg on highway regardless of speed, and on city driving I was always in the teens. Personally, I saw a pretty nice change.
The RX8 is more practical in every aspect except perhaps compromised reliability long term, and gas mileage, but if you really wanna save on gas, the S2000, while being one of THE BEST sports cars for gas mileage to match it's power, isn't exactly a good choice for that reason. You'd be far better off getting a practical car like a Civic, and I'm not so sure I'd buy an S2000 with high mileage. Odds are it wasn't driven like a grandma.
As for the S2000 as a third car choice, I think perhaps you're not thinking practical here, but more to spoil yourself, which hey, that works. HEHE It might be out of your budget because $10k for an S2000 right now is gonna get you pretty nicely worn and beaten down car. For $10k, there's far better choices as a gas saving vehicle, while still getting performance and practicality. The S2000 is practical from a MPG and reliability standpoint, but that's where it ends IMO. I'd look into a an RXS, as it will get even better gas mileage, and you can get a newer less mileage one with less potential problems in the near future. Good luck!!! :)
HCTR154 03-18-2008, 10:33 AM I'm curious what did you (to the OP or anyone in the same situation) need a truck for in the first place, if you could replace it with a small car?
I need a truck to haul around a couple of ATVs....but I'm thinking about selling the truck, buying a car and just rigging a hitch to it. Afterwards, I would have to buy a trailer or just sell the ATVs....since I don't ride motorcycles anymore I had to have some fun so that was my justification for the ATVs which lead to the truck.
What is strange is that regardless of engine size, truck mileage (my recent experiences) all seem to hover around 13-14 mpg. My daughter bought an '03 Dodge Ram single cab with a 3.7 V6 and it sucks down as much gas as my 5.9 V8...:banghead:
Of course, it isn't nearly as much fun to drive. Although the new Hemi engine has more to offer, the 5.9L it replaced is quite torquey and has plenty of power.
Hope that makes sense....
DailyDriver2k5 03-19-2008, 09:14 AM Hmm. Interesting you come to that conclusion. I made the switch from the RX8 to an S2000, and I gotta say the MPG is very noticable. I've gotten 28-30mpg several times cruising at 70-75mph highway, and in normal city driving I can pull off 23-24. Granted, if driven at high rpms, I will agree, the S2K will guzzle gas, not as bad as the RX8, but the MPG is closer. Under highway and normal driving that isn't spirited, there is indeed a difference, and it's quite noticable.
I had an 01 S2000 after selling my RX8, but 9 months later got rid of it for an 06, and I did lose a little bit of MPG, but that might be because it's new, and also a bigger displacement engine with more torque and different gearing. I pulled off 32mpg on the 01 highway, and averaged about 25mpg with 50-50 city highway.
Now for my 04 RX8, I could never pull off more then 22-23mpg on highway regardless of speed, and on city driving I was always in the teens. Personally, I saw a pretty nice change.
The RX8 is more practical in every aspect except perhaps compromised reliability long term, and gas mileage, but if you really wanna save on gas, the S2000, while being one of THE BEST sports cars for gas mileage to match it's power, isn't exactly a good choice for that reason. You'd be far better off getting a practical car like a Civic, and I'm not so sure I'd buy an S2000 with high mileage. Odds are it wasn't driven like a grandma.
As for the S2000 as a third car choice, I think perhaps you're not thinking practical here, but more to spoil yourself, which hey, that works. HEHE It might be out of your budget because $10k for an S2000 right now is gonna get you pretty nicely worn and beaten down car. For $10k, there's far better choices as a gas saving vehicle, while still getting performance and practicality. The S2000 is practical from a MPG and reliability standpoint, but that's where it ends IMO. I'd look into a an RXS, as it will get even better gas mileage, and you can get a newer less mileage one with less potential problems in the near future. Good luck!!! :)
Thanks for your input, if you don't mind me asking, how much are your fill ups with your S2000, I assume you run premium? Is it about in the $30-40 dollar range?
VikingDJ 03-20-2008, 02:37 AM Thanks for your input, if you don't mind me asking, how much are your fill ups with your S2000, I assume you run premium? Is it about in the $30-40 dollar range?
I usually don't let the tank run too low, as it's not my daily driver, but the gas tank is smaller then the RX8 (only 13.2 gallons), so I have spent $30 to fill it, back when premium fuel was in the $3.00 range, as it took about 10 gallons. I'd imagine now you can spend $40 if you let tank run all the way to bottom, and with today's gas prices on premium fuel.
The most miles I ever pulled off on an S2000 was about 280 miles (on my 06, which I got 27mpg on that tank highway trip to north carolina, but I was driving 75-85mph), but of course I never let it get low enough to reach 300. If you keep the S2000 at 65-70mph, you can reach 30mpg (I hit 33mpg once cruising on highway in my 01 at 65-70mph, but in all honesty it was manipulated), but like I said, my 06 S2000 lost a couple of MPG perhaps because it's newer and barely broken in, and perhaps because of the increased torque and bigger displacement engine. I may get that back as I get more miles on this thing.
The car is easily capable of 30+mpg, but high 20s is more realistic unless you maintain a steady speed below 70mph the entire time, which I gotta tell ya, that was torture, and I'll never do it again. ;)
szym0n 03-20-2008, 02:42 AM My friend just bought a used one...05 Conv, 16K miles for 23K....Point is, gas is just like the 8....If your looking for gas, get a civic or accord....My dad has an 06 accord and he gets great miles on it. and its very comfy
VikingDJ 03-20-2008, 10:40 PM My friend just bought a used one...05 Conv, 16K miles for 23K....Point is, gas is just like the 8....If your looking for gas, get a civic or accord....My dad has an 06 accord and he gets great miles on it. and its very comfy
at high rpms you are correct, under normal daily driving keeping revs low, you are incorrect. ;)
Sorry, but this whole concept of buying an additional car to save money is just absurd.
Sure, your gas expenses might go down by a few hundred dollars per year, but then there is the cost of the car itself, interest on the loan, depreciation, insurance, sales tax when you buy the car, maintenance, the returns you would've gotten if the money was invested instead of being tied up in a car (i.e. "cost of money"), etc.
You're not going come even remotely close to breaking even here.
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