Anybody see Matrix Revolutions yet? It started here on the east coast at 9 am this morning. I may try to play hooky from work this afternoon and catch a show. I think they should use an RX-8 for transportation in the Matrix.....much cooler than that old Lincoln and both have suicide doors.

Saw the movie this morning. All I can say is I feel insulted by the ending. Overall the movie ROCKED, but the ending was so terrible, it wasn't funny.

O town, you should try to catch a show at Pointe Orlando...watch it at their IMAX screen. I saw Reloaded on IMAX...NOTHING COMPARES (crappy ending or not).

IMAX is sweet

but if the ending sucks I might skip it
I can't stand movies with bad endings or to be continued endings

Haven't seen it yet. I'm just praying that the whole thing isn't in Key-Aw-New's mind, or a dream, or some crap like that.

I wouldn't say the ending sucked, maybe it was a bit dissapointing... but I'm not sure how else they could've have ended it. What did suck was me waking up at 5am to see it and still having to sit in the front row 'cause a bunch of other dorks had the same idea :)

Overall, I liked the movie and would recommend it to Matrix fans. If you didn't like Reloaded, then you might want to skip it since it basically continues that story with a similar style.

Originally posted by DisneyDestroyer
Haven't seen it yet. I'm just praying that the whole thing isn't in Key-Aw-New's mind, or a dream, or some crap like that.

Haha, that would suck if the ending was just Keanu waking up in his apartment with his patented "woah!" :)

personally i think reloded was a bit redundant of the agent smith fighting crap

Just got back from seeing Revolutions here in the UK. This synchronised World release is weird: I'm used to you Stateside guys seeing movies months before me! Anyway:

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The movie is adequate, no more. There are some amazing sections and there are some poor moments (movie cliches of the worst kind - and I'm a Matrix fan too). The ending is... well, problematic. It didn't satisfy me but as yet I can't work out why. I think perhaps I was being emotionally dragged into the final section and the very last scenes didn't resolve that emotional engagement, therefore I went away unhappy. I might just be me. I can best describe the movie as 'a curiousity'.

Imma just dl it.

Just saw it, and thought it was much better than Reloaded. Still has a lot of loose ends, though. The ending was weak, IMHO, as has been pointed out here already. The effects were great and the battle for Zion was pretty amazing. Overall, I liked it.

the battle was crazy, but the ending left so mant more questions, and very little answers. Why did they do this to me I was so attatched and they kinda came weak with it. Let me sleep on it and I might feel better.

I feel much the same way you guys do. The battle sequences were amazing, but the plot was a little weak and deteriorated toward the end. The conclusion is what killed me. I was expecting all my unanswered questions from Reloaded to be answered, but very few if any were. I left feeling somewhat betrayed.

It was not the best movie in the world, but I think it was worth seeing in the theaters just because of the special effects.
3 out of 5 stars (more like 2 for the actual design, but the special effects tacked on another star).

Well, disappointing endings are only rare in movin' pitchers. Realizing that we live in something kinda like the dang Matrix and can't easily get out is enormously disappointing.

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I liked the whole movie from beginning to end. I agree that if you liked the original but didn't like Reloaded then this part won't be for you. Answered all Reloaded's questions for me, and based on the circumstances it could only end two ways: Neo wakes up and its all a long dream, or the way that it ended. Think about it, he's fighting himself in essense.

Maybe they'll pull a '28 Days Later' and reissue with an alternate ending.

Maybe they'll release the DVD with multiple endings (like 28 Days Later).

I thoroughly enjoyed it.

My take is there's NO way they can re-create what they did in the first film - the first was an absolute paradigm shift for movies. Amazing story, ground-breaking special effects and cinematography...I knew they wouldn't be able to top it, per se, just give you more of the same.

I do like how they've kept it a "thinking man's" movie - not just blam-slam action crap.

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I think the big disappointment in the end was you kind of wish they'd wipe out the machines and free the minds of all the other people. Thinking about it, it's just not possible. The machines have an ENORMOUS society and system, and the Zionites are relatively small and poorly-equipped. It would have been the US defeating Russia in the cold war period, wiping out all of Russia, and moving all the citizens to the US. Just not feasible. They're both two entities that will just have to coexist. And that's what the ending was all about.

I'm just happy they didn't take the "cop out" endings -

- it was all a dream
- Zion was actually another Matrix, and that was all fake too.
- Neo had to travel to the "main frame" of the machines, insert the virus code, and all the machines break down and die (similar to Indepedance Day).

The fight for Zion was just absolutely nuts and overwhelming, there were some parts I got choked up, some I was cheering, and some I was on the edge of my seat with anticipation. To me, that's a good movie.

I'd give it an A-. Could have been better in some ways, but it's just a good damn movie.

Dale

I saw it lastnight. Too much character building too late in the game. I felt I was watching Matrix meets Airport 79.

The way it ended with that kid in Detroit making it all up on his pentium 4 was kind of crazy. Just kidding.

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Yea man what was with that ending?? Let's discuss that conclusion. It totally threw me for a loop. Yes I agree it's the only logical way to end it, but man, I feel hungry after the show.

First of all, the movie had some draggy points and a tad too much too late character development, but I can say it all was totally made up for with the Zion battle.

What about Persephone? Hot outfit, but totally good for nothing. Even the Merovingian didnt do much. I guess they only belonged in Reloaded.

So the end..

Neo and Smith duke it out, kill each other, then bam all is right as rain. My understanding is that Smith is the Yang to Neo's Yin, and both cancelled each other out.

The Mother Of the Matrix, Oracle.. The Father of the Matrix, The Architect... I'm guessing the Oracle was tired of the "reloading" of the Matrix (hence it's 6th iteration) and all of the senseless violence thus created an uncontrollable Smith to unbalance the equation.. Both worlds needed each other to survive. The Machines needed Neo to help take out Smith or else face destruction. Neo needed the machines to stop the attack on Zion. Thus both agreed on peace.

So now, the Matrix and Zion still exist. Architect will let out the minds that want out, and the two will live peacefully together.. for how long was their question... hmm.

My guess is that this particular Neo was the first one to CHOOSE peace. It was all about Choice. In the Animatrix the machines always wanted peace and coexistance, but the humans did not. Every predcessor chose to keep fighting, thus the reloading. This time the choice was different and so was the result.

I dunno, maybe I'm still confused.

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i think youre right for the most part, except i think youre wrong about how smith came about (unless you mean she used neo to create him). she even says that Smith is his negative sign
oracle said her job was to unbalance the equations, whilst the the architect's job was to balance them

neo was "allowed" to exist because he had to be the initial unbalancing (the agents maybe), however, when he killed smith (killing him and thus shifting the power to the human side more, and destroying the balance) , which was unforseen , the balance was naturally restored through the freeing of smith. However, now two entities were beyond the machines' (and so the matrix's) control, and the only way a balance could be restored was through a mutual destruction, at least in the machine world.

i agree with the chosing peace thing, it seems that neo was the first "true" human, so a balance could finally be found in peace.

so the only way to achieve piece (the ultimate balance) was by initially unblanacing the equations of the matrix and allowing anomalies to exist.

a question i had at the end however, was if the real-life neo lived or died, at first i thought he died, but then came to the conclusion that he was still alive cause it showed his "vision" like the way he sees the machines, though in actuallity he is blind, at the end of the movie when the machines are carrying him about.

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I had a lot the same take except that Neo did not die. He was able at the end to enter and leave the matrix without being hooked up. Thus the machine at the end taking off his tired but living body.

Your slant on Smith probably being the creation of the Oracle in order to force a change to the same old (6 time) reload sound very possible.

Battle for Zion was incredible. I definately like the old (Men in Black) straight faced and tough type Trinity versus the lovy dovy wimpy one in this third movie.

Bad weather and strobe lighting when used is generally covering for sloppy graphics and computer generation. It appears that 90 % of the third movie effort went into the Zion battle. The other two movies spread the effort out, making them more enjoyable end to end.

Exactly! I think the Oracle used parts of Neo to create Smith thus doing her job of unbalancing..

I have the same question, is Neo dead or alive.. argh.

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hes def alive becuase he mind transcends the machine world into the real world, hence his vision at the end of the movie, if he was dead, no one else could see liek that mind you, that graphic COULDNT have been there
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youre wrong about smith being an unbalancing, smith is a balancing of Neo
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Aahh.. I get ya.. before there was always the unbalance (just Neo), but now Neo and the badder ass Smith created a balance that required a mutual sacrifice of both worlds.

now that you mention it, I would suppose he's alive with that special graphic scene...

movie was so damned nuts lol, wish there was an imax theatre closer than an hour away (that sounds strange doesnt it)
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IMO Neo's dead. I say that because the movie ending takes on a biblical, Neo as Jesus form, which is the purpose for the aformentioned graphical image at the end. If this is the last edition, there is no PURPOSE in leaving us wondering if Neo lives or dies. They did seem to leave an open ending which I didn't expect but all in all a biblical, Neo dies on the cross type ending(atleast thats what the graphic looked like to me). As my wife said "if there is another part to the matrix trilogy it will be called "Resurrection"

Excellent insight!! I was sort of thinking the same thing..

I think the ending was a bit abrupt though, the last few minutes just blurred by. IMO they should have taken 10-15 more minutes to do a bit more explaining of what was going down. But oh well, it does leave a bit to the imagination.

On a lighter note. My favorite scene of the day is when the merovingian is rambling on about the Oracles eyes and trinity cuts in with "I don't have time for this shit!!!" LMAO'ed

i initially thought that he was dead, with him layed out the way he was on that machine, but then it shows that graphic of his vision, which couldnt have been if he wasnt alive
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Originally posted by RotaryX
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IMO Neo's dead. I say that because the movie ending takes on a biblical, Neo as Jesus form, which is the purpose for the aformentioned graphical image at the end. If this is the last edition, there is no PURPOSE in leaving us wondering if Neo lives or dies. They did seem to leave an open ending which I didn't expect but all in all a biblical, Neo dies on the cross type ending(atleast thats what the graphic looked like to me). As my wife said "if there is another part to the matrix trilogy it will be called "Resurrection"

I agree with you. I think it was very biblical. The whole story line of Love and Choices. At the end when the little girl is talking to the oracle. She asks if they will ever see Neo again and the Oracles answer was "I Suppose". Did you guys notice when Neo was taken over by Smith he then started to emit light from his mouth and then his body. The light was in the sign of a cross. I founf that strange. Maybe I am just over thinking this

You could probably argue either way that Neo could be dead or alive... but given Neo's "transcendental" capabilities when it comes to human/machine/virtual consciousness, it may not even matter.

I found the movie entertaining, and it seemed to me to bring the current batch of movies to a tidy enough conclusion. The thing to remember is that this has become a very significant movie franchise, so the ambiguity of the end of Revolution is not surprising -- it allows any number of future storylines, or even prequels, for that matter.

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Yeah, I agree that it may not matter whether Neo is dead or alive...but I tend to think he is alive...at least in some form.

We all saw the many cross symbols and references to Christ at the end of the movie...If not here are some

- Neo with arms stretched wide, resembling Christ's position on cross

- The glowing cross-like shape emanating from his body

- Similar cross glow shown in the Matrix when the Smith's are wiped out (white glow that spreads over the world)

- Machine God, "It is done." similar to Christ's, "It is finished."

If indeed we draw parallels between Neo and Christ, then we can assume that Neo is still alive. In "spirit" or some form of consciousness.

Good point about the graphic of the ship as it continues to fly off. How can that be seen? Unless...?

And when Sati asks the Oracle if they'll see Neo again..."I suspect we will....someday."

To me, that's a reference to Christ's second coming. So for such a reference to be made, it would imply that he's still alive.

They just better not make sequels to this. A friend of mine also predicted the "Resurrection" title...it's too predictable...therefore it should be left alone as a brilliant three part story...but hollywood being what it is...you never know.

LOL, I have only read the first page of post here and I can't help but laugh. I have seen the movie and it's "SICK". Obviously nobody knows what THE MATRIX is.... The whole series is based on the bible. That why the ending was the way it is. The way it didn't end like everyone thinks it is going end. ITS NOT A REGULAR MOVIE - LIKE THE TERMINATOR OR SOMETHING.

JUST REMEMBER ITS BASED ON THE BIBLE

And go see all three and then you will understand the MATRIX!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, but i just read some of the other post! see some do know about THE MARTIX

There is almost as much reference to Greek Mythology as there is to Christianity.
The merovingian is hades and Persephone is hades reluctant wife as she is the merovingian's unloving wife.

Persephone was hot :) I almost missed half the Merovingian scene for staring at her... assets so wonderfully in view!

Monica Bellucci > *

also a lot of judaism, "theres a diff between walking the path and knowing it" if i recall correctly, theres a teaching in judaism which says that you can be destined for something, but only you yourself can realize your destiny

as well as nebuchadnezzar which has a lot of Biblical stuff in the name alone as well as in the history of the man himself. all and all a great story IMHO
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Good special effects... as always....

Unfortunately, the movie has strayed even farther from the original plot.

Could have been so much better.... but all they did was leave openings for yet another sequel.:confused:

Hmmm, biblical leanings...

Gee, you mean like three movies = Father, Son, Holy Ghost?

1 = Morpheus (Neo's father-like character) who makes the sacrifice, willing to give of himself to save Neo
2 = Neo (Morpheus's son-like character) who make the sacrifice, walking through the "wrong" door to save Trinity, even at the potential cost to all
3 = The Architect (the holy ghost) who makes the sacrifice, granting a peace that he knows the humans will break in order to save the matrix-world.

MAN.....

Just like they said in Dogma.....

Ya took and idea and messed it up by turning it into a religion.

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the movie cliches killed it for me. and knowing full well how the matrix storyline resembles the stories of the bible (This was of course intentional...tons of bible references in all 3 movies), i knew that neo was going to sacrifice himself to save zion (jesus dying on the cross), in fact i thought it was quite obvious. yes, they leave it open-ended for his resurrection. but if the trend continues, i'm not going to pay to see the sequel (i'll download it though). the first one was great, second was neat, third one was a letdown. Why'd the Wachowski brothers have to sell out...so many cliches...it sickens me. It's like they KNEW we'd all pay to go see it, so they didn't put in as much effort. Typical of Hollywood. Sequels always outsell the originals, but rarely do they top the original. Not to mention the seeminly infinite number of plot holes in the movie.

I know i'm being overly critical, but when the machines were tunneling into zion...why go through the whole mess of sending in a million sentinels that just fly around cluelessly, but oh so gracefully. Yea it looked cool, but my god I couldn't help but wonder wtf were thoes sentinels were doing if not just swimming around like a flock of fish? They certainly weren't attacking...just kept flying around. Why not just drill the hole, and *GASP* drop a bomb in it????????????? Also, in the "Battle to Save Zion" I couldn't help but think it was dumb as hell to equip EVERY hover ship with an EMP blast, but not have a SINGLE ONE within your base defense. That...was...dumb. And while we're on that subject, there is such a thing as EMP shielding...after all these years, you'd think the machines would have looked into it. My biggest gripes:

1. That stupid 16-year old kid with the will of a soldier and the heart of a lion. Gung-ho to battle the evil machines (GIVE ME A BREAAAAAK. The only thing "moving" about this character was the stirring of my bowels). and SURPRISE he Heroically manages to open the gate for that hovership in the battle to save zion. Can you say CLICHE

2. Link's girlfriend. She bravely chooses to fight to save Zion instead of going into hiding, and SURPRISE she too is a hero when she manages to destroy that huge tunneling machine. But wait, her heroics don't end there. She too plays a role in opening the gate for the ship Naobi is piloting (Of course she'd be a hero, everyone in this movie is).

3. Agent Smith's maniacle laughter after he "infects" the oracle (I always thought of him as a "virus"...much like a computer virus). I actually said "Oh my god" in the theater. What were they thinking!!!!!!!! CLICHEEEEE


At this point in the movie I am annoyed with what I've seen and so I become even more critical.

4. When neo and trinity are in the ship and they wreck and neo doesn't realize that trinity is dying...the camera focuses only on the top portion of her body so as to not hint to the audience that she's dying, and then as if it were some surprise, the camera shifts downwards and "shockingly" reveals that she is dying.

5. I can't help but wonder where the "intense" emotion of love between neo and trinity stems from. I mean, they have so much love for each other but they don't know DICK about each other. They are willing to die for each other having only known each other for what, 8 months maybe? If their love is based on nothing but physical attraction, then Neo could do better than the manish Trinity (I don't care how much tight leather she straps on, she looks like a man and NEVER smiles. she's so ornery it's infectious). On a similar note, everytime they kiss, it looks scripted. Come on, make us believe they are in love.

5. That crap Wizard-of-oz-like ending when the sentinels form a face (reminded me of the wizard) and speaks to neo. Super lame.

6. The idea that peace will reign between the humans and machines because the architect "gave his word". Why the sudden change of character????????? Lame-o.

Yes, I know I am being WAY overly critical but damn it, if they are going to hype this crap up so much, they should live up to it!!! It's time we hold hollywood accountable for this crap. In the end the movie left me with a bad taste in my mouth.

omg i had no idea i typed that much. i was watching TV at the same time i typed all that. sorry if you read it all and then feel it wasn't worth it. i had to vent

i saw it in an OMNIMAX theater (like watching a movie in a planetarium dome) and I'm all kinds of disappointed. I guess my problem was that i loved the Matrix because it was like a kung fu movie at heart, but the last one had basically none of that. I don't even really want to see it again, I don't know what I'm going to do when the DVD comes out...

Originally posted by Winning_BlueRX8
Yes, I know I am being WAY overly critical but damn it, if they are going to hype this crap up so much, they should live up to it!!!

you're not being overly critical. that movie, as far as story telling, like , the ART of it, is just shit. it's the coolest action SERIES i've ever seen, but because the fight scenes sucked so much ass in the last one, it's raunchy.

first one had guns: mega-sweet. second one had superfied kung-fu action: also mega-sweet. third one had long, drawn out emotionless cliched scenes, something which even student film makers would be ashamed of using: ultra-suck-ass.

the effects were cool. all the philosophical and borrowed religious meaning is just a ton of BS that seems like it was thrown together during a night of booze and taking-themselves-too-seriously.

"let's just take some very obscure parts of major world religions, throw them all together, and tell everyone that their reason d'etre is to choose!! it's brilliant!! no one will know!!" gimme a fuckin' break.

btw, it's not just christianity, there're Hindu references in there too:
Satti fits in there somehow, with the sunset somehow related to Krishna... don't ask me man, it's my weird hippie-raver friends that are reading way too much into this... and that to me bothers me as well.

the brothers don't want to say what they meant with all the BS they threw in there, 'cause it doesn't even make sense to them. if anyone knew what they were thinking, they'd look like idiots; so, leave it up to highly speculative, creative, and well-read nerds to create for them what they can't think of themselves.

i too realize the similarities b/n The Matrix and religion...but just like religion, the conclusion of The Matrix is left open on purpose...religion is there as a guideline, if you will, for you to attain answers for yourself...it's not there to be taken literally and word for word...answers were left to debate so that you can find truth in your own way

i forgot what this image was that you guys are talking about, i guess i'll have to go see it again...i originally felt that Neo did in fact die, as a martyr...he died to save mankind much like Christ did...he prolly did transcend into a higher consciousness as you guys have noted...

the underlying theme throughout The Matrix was choice...Neo chose to take the other path because he fell in love...he had to save Trinity...Smith chose not to return to the source and be deleted, gaining power because he no longer had to abide by the rules set forth by The Matrix...the Oracle chose to help Neo, thus forfeiting her original form and taking on the form of Morgan Freeman...Colonel Sanders chooses to free the minds of those that want out...in the end, it is choice that alters the events that have already been predetermined, all set about by Neo's choice to walk the wrong path

the ending was ok for me...it wasn't so Hollywood that Trinity was somehow saved and Neo saved the entire world by somehow disrupting the core and killing all the machines and it wasn't so bleak that the machines won and everyone died, there was a happy medium to it all...

i do feel that Reloaded was almost unnecessary...the entire scenes with the Merovignan and Persephone were useless as their character development was no longer continued in Revolutions...even Morpheus was reduced to Niobe's bitch, playing as her Chewbacca on the ship...the series could have been done in 2 episodes, but to be honest, i was happy with just the original

thus forfeiting her original form and taking on the form of Morgan Freeman...

hahahh hah ahhahahhahahhahahah. I knew i recognized her from somewhere. i didn't gripe about her changing form because i heard the original oracle died shortly after the second movie. wakeech, you put my thoughts to words very nicely. i agree with you. the brothers dropped the ball on the third one...those sell outs. here's a good matrix revlolutions review: Right here. Just kidding it's right .here (http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=matrix3) it's a rated R site so don't read it with your children around (no nudity, just swearing)

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You can't equip the base with an EMP because it will knock out all the power. They equip them to the ships so that they can blast it outside of Zion so that perimeter defenses of Zion will still be active.

you're not being overly critical. that movie, as far as story telling, like , the ART of it, is just shit. it's the coolest action SERIES i've ever seen, but because the fight scenes sucked so much ass in the last one, it's raunchy.

Give this man a cookie! For all of you people who think that the film has some sort of "deep meaning" that is there for people to study and gain an insight from... you've got problems. It is psuedo philosophy at worst, entertaining film at best.

For the guy who thinks the film is based on the bible... learn to read between the lines. Just because a medium makes use of Christian symbolism does not mean the subject is biblical in its nature. The film uses symbolism from all of the worlds major religions.

For those of you who are interested in the material that spawned the idea of the film; they are two books: Children of the matrix, and Nueromancer. Talk about freaky crap.

The brothers took something new and original (the first Matrix) and have created a HUGE cash cow with a couple of films that are unoriginal and uninspiring. Kudos to them... they've realized the American dream; they now have a franchise that will earn them bookoo bucks up the ying yang, and have gained a level of artistic freedom enjoyed by only a few other film makers (Lucas, and that ET guy to name two).

All in all... the first Matrix was a classic for our time; the last two get a marginal nod as decent sci fi flicks.

Originally posted by ToRX-8orToZ
The brothers took something new and original (the first Matrix) and have created a HUGE cash cow with a couple of films that are unoriginal and uninspiring. Kudos to them... they've realized the American dream; they now have a franchise that will earn them bookoo bucks up the ying yang, and have gained a level of artistic freedom enjoyed by only a few other film makers (Lucas, and that ET guy to name two).

All in all... the first Matrix was a classic for our time; the last two get a marginal nod as decent sci fi flicks.

ugh, original? far from it...The Matrix "borrows" way too much from several sources, predominantly a little known film released earlier entitled "Dark City"...the similarities will astound you:

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Originally posted by Zio
You can't equip the base with an EMP because it will knock out all the power. They equip them to the ships so that they can blast it outside of Zion so that perimeter defenses of Zion will still be active.

come on man. I KNOW that it would disable the perimeter defenses but you know what? they use emp devices on the ship...and afterwards the ship starts right back up and they go on their merry way! imagine that? so you couldn't do something similar within the base? Maybe keep about 15 emp bombs that would fire off in sequence so that only one is activated at any given moment and does not disable the others? anyways, it's silly to argue this because this small inconsistency is overshadowed by the many many many cliches in the film. like it's been said so many times, the first matrix was original and worthy of praise, the other two fizzled out and were typical hollywood sequels.

ugh, original? far from it...The Matrix "borrows" way too much from several sources, predominantly a little known film released earlier entitled "Dark City"...the similarities will astound you:

Dark City is very well known in film circles... but my originality reference was not made on subject mater.

I admit, I'm one of those who don't totaly understood the Matrix. Infact I walked out of Revolutions even more confused. I'll have to get the whole set of DVD and watch them all over again.

Anyway there's one particular section which I don't get it. Couldn't remember the name of these 3 charaters, in Reload, while these 2guys and the girl who were trying to destroy the back-up power, they ship was destroyed by the machines (with the bomb) and they all died in the ship that's why they died in their mission. But back in Revolutions, how did they walk out alive again??

Hope you guys know which scence I'm talking about.

Originally posted by ToRX-8orToZ
For the guy who thinks the film is based on the bible... learn to read between the lines. Just because a medium makes use of Christian symbolism does not mean the subject is biblical in its nature. The film uses symbolism from all of the worlds major religions.


Dude! If you can't see the similarities between the end of this movie and certain biblical events, then you need to learn to just read the lines.

I enjoyed the whole trilogy for what it is, a great story with a little bit of everything. I enjoy all kinds of movies especially the ones that make you think. So, if you think of all 3 parts as one big movie I think that it was pretty impressive.

Originally posted by M-ster
Anyway there's one particular section which I don't get it. Couldn't remember the name of these 3 charaters, in Reload, while these 2guys and the girl who were trying to destroy the back-up power, they ship was destroyed by the machines (with the bomb) and they all died in the ship that's why they died in their mission. But back in Revolutions, how did they walk out alive again??

Hope you guys know which scence I'm talking about.

Actually it was a completely different crew in the third movie...

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Actually it was a completely different crew in the third movie...



I kept thinking they were the same crew. Just did a quick look back on the DVD.

Cheers!

Originally posted by M-ster
I kept thinking they were the same crew. Just did a quick look back on the DVD.

Cheers!

Nah, the ship you're referring to was Captain Soren's Vigilant.

There were three ships, three crews. Morpheus', Niobe's, and Soren's. Soren's was the one hit with the bomb (which is why Trinity had to go back into the Matrix to complete the hack). In Revolutions, you see Niobe's crew come out. So, yeah...her crew is the same from Reloaded and Revolutions, but they weren't the ones that had to hack the emergency power systems, they just simply blew the powerplant to begin with...

Aye...I really shouldn't have even responded...I'm sick of those movies..