I know most of the members on this board usually recommend the Axial Flow Short shifter. However, I was wondering if anyone bought the short shifter by Mazdaspeed. I do recall that Cortc (the black 8 with the HRE's and Mazdaspeed Bodykit) had this short shifter, but he is no longer on this forum. The reason why I'm interested in the Mazdaspeed is because it has a higher percentage in reduction of throws, and more importantly, it is about $100 cheaper. If anyone has experience with this shifter and can give us your input, that would great.

um, where did you find it for 100 cheaper??? and % of throw is maybe slightly more but actual quality and performance would be nowhere near the AFE.

Yes do tell... I've been wanting a short shifter :)

I have the mazdaspeed short throw and it is great. Not sure about the AFE, I am sure it is a great product but my service manager at the dealer and some of the techs love it. I do not know why they did not make it standard. It also makes the gears very identifiable. There is absolutely no vague feeling in the gears whatsoever

where can i find a mazdaspeed short shifter? all i can find is a dang shift knob

www.japanparts.com is where you can find one. i got it from them. honestly, i used to have an AFE SS and it's better and shorter than the mazdaspeed one. i got mazdaspeed because i didn't want the AFE SS to be the blame for a bad transmission if it ever fails.

i cant find it. link?

http://www.japanparts.com/db/partslist.php?dealer=6&car=93&middle=1&small=5

It's $442.90 without shipping costs versus AFE SS is $259.00 and is here in in the states.

MS SS= 20% shorter throws versus AFE SS 29% shorter throws...you do the math.

Didn't you just sell your AFE SS?

AFE shifter > MS Short shifter

I'm waiting for someone with an AT to come in and say "Paddle shifters are faster than any short shifter out there."

:rofl:

I'm waiting for someone with an AT to come in and say "Paddle shifters are faster than any short shifter out there."

They are... just check w/Blueknight

www.japanparts.com is where you can find one. i got it from them. honestly, i used to have an AFE SS and it's better and shorter than the mazdaspeed one. i got mazdaspeed because i didn't want the AFE SS to be the blame for a bad transmission if it ever fails.

My understanding is that the MazdaSpeed parts void that part of the warranty just as quickly as the AFE did.

My understanding is that the MazdaSpeed parts void that part of the warranty just as quickly as the AFE did.

Not too sure. But if a dealer chose between 2 cars with a tranny failure (one with Mazdaspeed parts - backed by Mazda and one with AFE - not backed by Mazda, the dealer would choose to repair the one with parts backed up by Mazda under warranty. The Mazdaspeed shifter itself has limited warranty and wouldn't be replaced if the shifter failed. I guess it depends on the dealer if they blame what part or if anything caused the failure. Main point is that one is looked more down upon the other because it's either backed by Mazda or not.

Another example: all Mazdaspeed RX8's that are out there - all Mazdaspeed parts; I don't think they will sell that car without warranty.

While I see your logic...in the end they don't have to warranty a tranny problem that might have possibly been caused by the shifter.

There is no Mazdaspeed RX8 yet. All of them are parted together with Mazdaspeed parts but aren't available that way from Mazda. So yes...they have in effect no warranty in issues that could be related to Mazdaspeed parts.

I know most of the members on this board usually recommend the Axial Flow Short shifter. However, I was wondering if anyone bought the short shifter by Mazdaspeed. I do recall that Cortc (the black 8 with the HRE's and Mazdaspeed Bodykit) had this short shifter, but he is no longer on this forum. The reason why I'm interested in the Mazdaspeed is because it has a higher percentage in reduction of throws, and more importantly, it is about $100 cheaper. If anyone has experience with this shifter and can give us your input, that would great.


Sure. I'll give it a shot.

1. Your facts are completely wrong.

2. The MS STS has longer throws than the AFE STS.

3. The MS STS costs a lot more than the AFE STS

4. The AFE STS was designed/modeled after the MS STS, but with a shorter throw.


In conclusion, the MS version gives you less gain, costs almost twice as much and most of the people who bought the MS version ended up offloading them to get the AFE version.

While I see your logic...in the end they don't have to warranty a tranny problem that might have possibly been caused by the shifter.

There is no Mazdaspeed RX8 yet. All of them are parted together with Mazdaspeed parts but aren't available that way from Mazda. So yes...they have in effect no warranty in issues that could be related to Mazdaspeed parts.

There are Mazdaspeed RX8s sold by Mazda, just not in the US.

There are Mazdaspeed RX8s, just not in the US.

It's true, in Japan they had a limited edition RX-8 that had the mazdaspeed parts installed on it from the factory. But calling it a "mazdaspeed" vehicle when it makes the same power as the standard rx-8 is disingenuous. People expect more, and you end up with a body kit and a stiffer ride instead.

Why don't you tell that to Nissan with their Nismo I mean Notmo

I'm waiting for someone with an AT to come in and say "Paddle shifters are faster than any short shifter out there."

tis true!... for a GTR XD

It's true, in Japan they had a limited edition RX-8 that had the mazdaspeed parts installed on it from the factory. But calling it a "mazdaspeed" vehicle when it makes the same power as the standard rx-8 is disingenuous. People expect more, and you end up with a body kit and a stiffer ride instead.

this is true but again not, the mazdaspeed version in japan has an upgraded pcm, longer final gear ration, does have the suspension and body kit parts and other stuff i cant think of right on top of my head. but i'm in between afe and mazdaspeed one at the moment, even with the ms sponsorship, afe is still cheaper.. so i dont know, ill do more reserach

just buy the AFE, you'll love it

just buy the AFE, you'll love it

After the read, I'm leaning towards this one.

Where do we source/buy these? Anyone have a part number?

Brian-

http://www.axialflow.com/products.htm

about half way down the page

regarding trans issue's if your worried that the dealer might
sweat you about the ss just swap back to the standard before
you take in to the dealer. it easy

AFE all the way, i got mine and i absolutely love it

Here is probably a stupid question, buuuuuuuuut working on a 3 rotor this weekend I was informed I had a short shifter which I thought that's how it was supposed to be since it was already in the car lol. I need to know if it is a mazdaspeed or af. The base is a cream color that I assume is mazdaspeed from what I've found over the net, where af is black, but not sure. Can anyone help confirm this please.

sounds like the first gen AFE

Was there a reason for changing it? Is there a way to tell what one you have?

my car came with an optional short throw shifter from factory, is that the mazdaspeed one?

i like the factory one's looks...