It has been brought up in other threads the ever on-going debate on Brand name vs. Replicas... I thought we'd start a thread solely dedicated to this topic (this one focusing on Wheels, Tires, Brakes & Suspension -- body kits can be another topic). So let's hear them... like major factors such as weight, durability and of course quality, etc. Is there a wheel out there where you can have these bases covered and yet not break the bank... or are you ill fated unless you blow some serious $$$.

This is not a bash on a particular brand or company, but an open discussion where you can chime in and share your OPINION. Let's not start attacking each other if the other doesn't share the same feelings toward a product. Inevitably, the final choice and decision lies on to each individual person... with that said...

Who will cast the first stone?

My 2 cents..... I don't care if they are brand name or not.... All I care about is the look and the price.... I am sure none of the wheels are unsafe, so to me the price and the look works for me... I only drive on the street and never race the car so weight is not a big factor.... I love the bling bling and love having the extra cash for the honeys.......

I think weight and overall quality will be sacrificed on a replica. I'm sure that they are all fairly safe, but the finish is what I would be worried about. I have heard stories about quality not being up to par on replicas but I have no personal experience with them, so I can only go by what I read.

I would rather go with a nice wheel that I know will last the lifetime of the car and not have to worry about its quality. The replica will be cheaper, but with cheap comes sacrifices in quality that I don't want to risk. They may be fine, but they may disentegrate into thousands of pieces as soon as they are installed. I think that a quality name brand wheel will give a certain peace of mind that replicas can't

As far as price, that is really up to the individual. What I think is reasonable someone else might think is outrageous. My idea of reasonable is somewhere around 1500 dollars for wheels which is expensive, but not crazy. While I think they are awesome wheels, most Volks, HREs, Advans, BBS wheels and such are just too expensive. There are some nice wheels that you don't have to break the bank on though, including some in the Work, Gram Lights and Enkei line ups.

weight, quality, and customer support could be issues with replicas. A buddy of mine had a wheel BREAK as he was getting onto a freeway (Chevy Tahoe), not fun to see the damage suspension as his Tahoe slid to a stop.

With that said: not all replicas are made the same though. I'm sure there ARE some good ones out there and we dont' always need to be such brand whores. Do your homework is all I can say.

The posters above are correct. Weight / Over all Build quality/finish and customer support is what sets fakes and the real deal.

However, I have had some of the wheels from the cheaper companies like Konig and Motegi on my past cars and they have worked great for me. So im not going to say dont buy a replica or fake. They will probably work out alright for you, just get them from a decent manufacturer.

depends on what you are going to do with the wheel..

beers :beer:

The posters above are correct. Weight / Over all Build quality/finish and customer support is what sets fakes and the real deal.

However, I have had some of the wheels from the cheaper companies like Konig and Motegi on my past cars and they have worked great for me. So im not going to say dont buy a replica or fake. They will probably work out alright for you, just get them from a decent manufacturer.

Motegi is owned by American Racing, which isn't a horrible company (I'd never buy from them, but they aren't that bad), and Konig used to be a great company with great looking wheels many many years ago.

I think the discussion has ended with it being said that weight/quality/finish/customer service will be much better with brand name wheels. But I do understand personal preference, however if you can afford an RX8, it's peanuts more to buy a decent set of wheels for it...

or you can skip the center caps and keep everyone guessing :lol:

EDIT:: This is an interesting read right here: http://www.importfactor.com/aftermarket/rotarded-wheels.html

depends on how good you are at driving. Even the most brand name lightweight wheel will crack if you hit every curb and pothole.

I don't like cheap knock offs.

The minute you buy one someone pulls up to you in a Huyndai with the same wheels.

^^^ ha ha thats exactly what happened to me, i bought some fake wheels for winter and bad weather and no longer than half an hour after i put them on my car some girl in a tiburon pulled up with the same ones on. but i kinda forgot about that cause she was a gorgeous brunette!!! ha ha

I don't like cheap knock offs.

The minute you buy one someone pulls up to you in a Huyndai with the same wheels.

what do you consider a knock off??? when theres always going to be a wheel that will look similar, there are ton's of wheels that look alike but arent Necessarily knock offs.so does this mean that new up comming wheel companys are all consider knock offs??? theres always going to be someone with the same wheels as you, and others might feel the same way when you pull up.

if it looks good why not????

As long as they look good. Iam cool with it. But if they weight to dam much then I'm out.
-Gil

As long as they look good. Iam cool with it. But if they weight to dam much then I'm out.
-Gil


as long its not heavier than stock its and upgrade!:)

what I hate are fake multi piece wheels...fake rivets are the worse

as long its not heavier than stock its and upgrade!:)


even if it breaks???

beers :beer:

If you break a wheel you where doing something wrong LOL

even if it breaks???

beers :beer:

how often do you see somebody with aftermarket wheels stuck on the side of the road cause of a broken wheel??? i heard of flat tires but broken wheel, dont know where you live man.:dunno:


;) i mean i mean :beer05:

how often do you see somebody with aftermarket wheels stuck on the side of the road cause of a broken wheel??? i heard of flat tires but broken wheel, dont know where you live man.:dunno:


;) i mean i mean :beer05:

ah,

so you see my point from before.. it is about intended use, weight, size, aesthetics, strength, cost....

one mans perfect wheel is often not the nexts.... wheels are like tires, very very subjective..


beers :beer:

ah,

so you see my point from before.. it is about intended use, weight, size, aesthetics, strength, cost....

one mans perfect wheel is often not the nexts.... wheels are like tires, very very subjective..


beers :beer:

you alright bro????:dunno: i didint say anything bout your post.

I've cracked a stock wheel on a pothole, I can only imagine that a cheaper quality wheel would do the same thing or possibly worse. Had it been a super nice forged wheel, which is much stronger than the stock wheels (more expensive too!!) it might not have cracked like it did.

One mans perfect wheel is often not the nexts.... wheels are like tires, very very subjective..
beers :beer:

I can see your point.

you alright bro????:dunno: i didint say anything bout your post.


no,

that was not meant to be harsh... (damn typing) it is just an observation that gets missed.. :)

beers :beer:

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Cool article. What bothers me about it is that they shaved off alot of the original GTC-01. Enkei designed that wheel to work exactly the way it came from the factory. Had they wanted it lighter, they would have designed it be be lighter.

Its not really a fair comparison considering the wheel wasn't meant to be shaved down to a bare minimum. In doing so, of course they will sacrifice rigidity.

Ummmm... that's the point. They designed the best wheel from the get-go.

The point I was trying to make is that the article seems to say that lightweight wheels are bad.

When in reality, all they proved was that shaving down your wheels to make them light is bad.

Good article. So is there a rigidity standard between manufactures?

I don't like cheap knock offs.

The minute you buy one someone pulls up to you in a Huyndai with the same wheels.

last week i saw a mid 90s toyota corolla with 18x9(ish) gold BBSs on it. :lol: wheels were worth more than the car!

read this article, it talks about the advantages of using cheap cast wheels vs expensive forged rims in racing

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/editors/0709_sccp_jay_chen_appendix_j/index.html

My thoughts are this... I'm not out to set a landspeed record nor break any track records anytime soon... if the wheels look good on the eyes, the car and the pocketbook... (w/ an acceptable weight close to stock)... why not? If i come across some "brand" name product at an unbelievable price, I'd get it... but its all about spending your hard earned money wisely.

i have always found you get what you pay for so i tend to get name brand hence my pocket hurst. most likely something will disapoint you over time.

I take generic prescription drugs... drink crystal geyser water instead of fuji, evian or voss water... and select from the dollar value menu...haven't gotten disappointed yet.

flip I couldn't have said it better.....

The point I was trying to make is that the article seems to say that lightweight wheels are bad.

When in reality, all they proved was that shaving down your wheels to make them light is bad.


...the wheel wasn't meant to be shaved down to a bare minimum. In doing so, of course they will sacrifice rigidity.

exactly the point ... you're just looking it at differently. i think they're saying this: enkei made that "perfect" wheel, with regard to the balance between the necessary rigidity and weight. lightweight wheels ARE bad, when they sacrifice rigidity. think of it this way, if a "knock-off" wheel came along, they might "sacrifice rigidity" but taking a wheel similar to enkei's but shave it down, so they can say, "hey look, our wheel weighs less than enkei's so you'll go faster"! the uneducated wheel consumer might not realize that the maker may have sacrificed rigidity to make it more lightweight. so in this case, lightweight wheels are bad; that doesn't mean you should get a heavier wheel, just know that it's more than just how much it weighs. that's what i took from that article at least :dunno:

Exactly, light weight wheels that are modified from heavier wheels like in the article will have sacrifices in strength.

Light weight wheels that are designed to be light won't have those sacrifices because they are made to work at that weight. It isn't some hack and slash job on a regular wheel like MCR did with the GTC-01.

Take the RPF1 for example. 17.2 Lbs 18*9.5, strong AND lightweight because they were made that way.

EDIT: Moral of the story is don't buy modified wheels, because you never know what they sacrificed to get the weight down.

there are enough inexpensive good looking wheels out there from enkei or 5zigen, why save a few more dollars on some cheap ebay stuff that might not be as trustworthy?

There are inexpensive deals and then there are cheap deals. Obviously we all should know the cheap option is not the preferred choice. Enkei RPF1 is a great example of an inexpensive option.

I take generic prescription drugs... drink crystal geyser water instead of fuji, evian or voss water... and select from the dollar value menu...haven't gotten disappointed yet.

amen....:)

There are inexpensive deals and then there are cheap deals. Obviously we all should know the cheap option is not the preferred choice. Enkei RPF1 is a great example of an inexpensive option.
agreed and why i chose my words very carefully there.