View Full Version : seibon emblem? did i get a fake hood?


Jeromie
01-28-2008, 11:51 PM
just wondering... did i get jacked? is this really a seibon hood? if so the fit is horrible....


http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g216/renesis123/0127081039.jpg


http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g216/renesis123/0128081642.jpg

Shadow12one
01-29-2008, 12:41 AM
Probably a knock-off. AFAIK Seibon makes decent products. Where did you get it? Link?

Jeromie
01-29-2008, 12:46 AM
f**k i bought it localy from a shop.... i want to see how a real seibon emble looks so i can get my money back or something....

IcarusX8
01-29-2008, 12:47 AM
wow! serious problem there

Jeromie
01-29-2008, 01:24 AM
i will admit that some of it is my replica ms bumper.... but the lines next to the fenders are raised. i will try to get something back but i doubt it will happen... if not can anybody come up with a creative solution? the only thing i could think of is hood pins right above the fenders to hold the raised parts down.... :icon_no2:

Mazdaspeed RX8 ver2
01-29-2008, 02:03 AM
that sucks man... honestly, we dont need a CF hood when our hood is already aluminum... i just plan on painting my hood black or keeping it WB. But sorry for the knock off, get your money back if you can

perks11
01-29-2008, 02:23 AM
yea sorry about that man that really sucks, i would go try and get my money back and that business would never see my money again.

Wind Dance
01-29-2008, 02:44 AM
Looks real to me, but it also depends on how they stored it. Could have been warpage or something. Seibon is a descent company.
IMHO, your rep kit fitments is worst.. Good luck with that.

rx8spiritR
01-29-2008, 04:08 AM
you know, i don't know how others are saying about seibon is a great company blah blah blah, to me, it's crap, I've seen so many seibon product, NONE fits well to me. Stop saying it's a REAL or AUTHENTIC seibon hood, SEIBON ITSELF IS A FUXKING REPLICA, so when you're getting replica, crappy fittment is expected, stop complain and live with it. or get a veilside hood, which is real and it fits PERFECT.

Flashwing
01-29-2008, 04:16 AM
No aftermarket part is going to have perfect fittment on every single vehicle. If you look at the construction of CF hoods they all have slightly different shapes.

I have that same Seibon emblem on my hood and it was ordered directly from Seibon. I had to tweak the alignment of the hood slightly and it fits without any problems.

If Seibon is a replica what is it a replica of? So far I haven't seen any Seibon hoods which match any other vendor with the exception of the OEM RX8 hood.

chrism
01-29-2008, 06:59 AM
seibon is a replica hood....they replicate oem and varis.....so if thats a fake then its a fake of a fake.... but that looks real and seibon's fit is far from perfect.......thats why i, along with many others always say buy real..this is a perfect example....you get what you pay for...did you expect a fake ms kit to work perfectly with a fake oem hood?......you want a decent piece then you have to go with more reputable companies......but that will cost ALLOT more

lxlxlxl_saki_lxlxlxl
01-29-2008, 12:23 PM
in my own point of view, both Seibon and VIS OEM style hood have fitment problem. Seibon is a little worse than VIS cuz the gap is terrible.

WoodsOfGreenRx8
01-29-2008, 02:27 PM
*shrugs* My SEIBON hood fits well enough. The gap on one side, is just slightly larger but nothing too noticable.


Also: rx8spiritR, cool down man. I dont know why you need to go all half-c*cked and stuff..

Jeromie
01-29-2008, 03:10 PM
you know, i don't know how others are saying about seibon is a great company blah blah blah, to me, it's crap, I've seen so many seibon product, NONE fits well to me. Stop saying it's a REAL or AUTHENTIC seibon hood, SEIBON ITSELF IS A FUXKING REPLICA, so when you're getting replica, crappy fittment is expected, stop complain and live with it. or get a veilside hood, which is real and it fits PERFECT.

go read again and tell me where i said its authentic... and i dont see how seibon is a replica company, plz show some proof before i u mouth off. and btw the veilside stytle is fuggly. (which is why i didnt buy from them)

Jeromie
01-29-2008, 03:12 PM
seibon is a replica hood....they replicate oem and varis.....so if thats a fake then its a fake of a fake.... but that looks real and seibon's fit is far from perfect.......thats why i, along with many others always say buy real..this is a perfect example....you get what you pay for...did you expect a fake ms kit to work perfectly with a fake oem hood?......you want a decent piece then you have to go with more reputable companies......but that will cost ALLOT more

ive read from forum members that they were very happy with there products so i figured seibon was reputable.... :dunno:

chrism
01-29-2008, 03:37 PM
they are a reputable company for sure but they do copy originals....not saying they arent one of the better replica companies but they are.....personally i am a stickler for very close fits but some people are a bit more forgiving.......every one has personal taste limits.....if you were local i would be able to pinpoint for you exactly what i am referring to

Jeromie
01-29-2008, 03:50 PM
yea im not very picky. its not really the gaps that bother me... its how it lines up with the fenders... on the side u cannot see the hood is raised maybe a 1/4" above the fender :eyetwitch

i wonder if it was stored incorrectly like wind dance said...
i will probably go and get anotherone from the people i bought it from....

chrism
01-29-2008, 03:53 PM
it was when it was cured and has nothing to do with storage.....it was a bad batch when they were made....either that or your fenders are more off than you thought.....seibon is decent and wont be off that much so i tend to believe its a combination of the 2 that make it like that and another hood may vary even more......

Jeromie
01-29-2008, 03:59 PM
son of a b***h i already know the place wont take it back... might have to sell it on craigslist and lose a lil money.... that or find a way to make it look a lil better. i love the way carbonfiber looks on vr....

chrism
01-29-2008, 04:16 PM
trust me......i know......even though i got the fugly veilside kit

Jeromie
01-29-2008, 04:36 PM
haha yea sorry bro thats just imo. but im sure it fit right on the t. i just didnt wanna spend a G on the hood i really want.... but now i just might...

VIS v-speed carbon fiber hood

but now that i think about it. u guys dont like vis... crap

chrism
01-29-2008, 04:42 PM
for a g buy the real deal.....Varis.......fitment wont be an issue......you get what you pay for.....and no need to apologize.....personally i think of mazdaspeed to be as special as oem.....might as well be bone stock to me

Jeromie
01-29-2008, 04:48 PM
varis looks great but i cant read japanese:banghead:

WoodsOfGreenRx8
01-29-2008, 04:51 PM
varis looks great but i cant read japanese:banghead:

You dont need to read Japanese.. :icon_no2: I imagine Japanparts.com or even Lazi should be able to get you what you want..

Jeromie
01-29-2008, 05:01 PM
well ive decided a couple things. i am going to get my stock bumper back...
see if that helps. if not i will sell the hood and do some more research before buying carbonfiber products... thank you all for ur input except u rx8spiritR :)

Kris
01-29-2008, 07:46 PM
The VIS CF hoods fit good, sorry to see you got shafted.

Wind Dance
01-30-2008, 12:08 AM
The VIS CF hoods fit good, sorry to see you got shafted.

Vis is just another Seibon type company.

OBTIQ
01-30-2008, 12:27 AM
Wait, when did everyone have a meeting to decide seibon isn't good anymore... Last time I checked my hood and trunk fits nice, looks good, and pretty expensive. I guess to everyone has their own opinion, but if we are going to knock Seibon at least know they are the top replicas lol.....

o and yea, um...where is the Ks , Ts and TSII style hoods knocked off from...

rx8spiritR
01-30-2008, 01:06 AM
why? every single word i speak is true, you can't handel reality or something?

OBTIQ
01-30-2008, 01:18 AM
last time I check seibon has their own line up as well, yea they make replicas of oem hood, but they are far from the ebay line up.

BRGREEN8
01-30-2008, 01:38 AM
you know, i don't know how others are saying about seibon is a great company blah blah blah, to me, it's crap, I've seen so many seibon product, NONE fits well to me. Stop saying it's a REAL or AUTHENTIC seibon hood, SEIBON ITSELF IS A FUXKING REPLICA, so when you're getting replica, crappy fittment is expected, stop complain and live with it. or get a veilside hood, which is real and it fits PERFECT.

thats true......

Flashwing
01-30-2008, 02:16 AM
last time I check seibon has their own line up as well, yea they make replicas of oem hood, but they are far from the ebay line up.

I suppose it depends on the level of quality that you are looking for when it comes to carbon fiber parts. Being that the OEM RX8 hood weighs almost nothing, there is very little benifit from upgrading to a carbon fiber hood for weight savings.

My purpose of going with an aftermarket hood was mostly because of the venting feature. I'd have fabricated my own OEM hood to accomplish the same thing but with the cost of an OEM hood being over $1,000 it was much easier to spend the $700 on a hood that would bolt on and look good.

I also feel that the Seibon weeve looks much better than the VIS hoods. One thing I did per advice from a friend with a CF hood on his Mazda 6 was to have the hood covered completly with 3M clearbra material to prevent fading and rock chips. That in itself puts the value of the hood close to a supposed non-replica.

Sure, the Seibon hood I have isn't a flush fittment but it's not so bad people have commented about it. It's not like buying a fiberglass replica MS bodykit opposed to a polyurethane which is clearly a superior product.

Kinda comes down to this...if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck...people are going to think it's a duck.

Eatsomerice
01-30-2008, 07:45 AM
well ive decided a couple things. i am going to get my stock bumper back...
see if that helps. if not i will sell the hood and do some more research before buying carbonfiber products... thank you all for ur input except u rx8spiritR :)

i Have the same exact hood. The fitment is alright there are huge gaps and yes i am using my stock front bumper. The clear coat sucks. Ive had it less then a year and now it is ready to get refinished.

BigOLundh
01-30-2008, 10:18 AM
just wondering... did i get jacked? is this really a seibon hood? if so the fit is horrible....


http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g216/renesis123/0127081039.jpg


http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g216/renesis123/0128081642.jpg
would be sad if you got a knock off hood of a knock off brand.

seibon is notorious for shit quality. its real hit or miss with them... not just with the RX8 community but with all different car types. good luck with that hood.

Eatsomerice
01-30-2008, 11:00 AM
would be sad if you got a knock off hood of a knock off brand.

seibon is notorious for shit quality. its real hit or miss with them... not just with the RX8 community but with all different car types. good luck with that hood.

on my mazda 6 the quality was excellent and fitment was perfect and after 2 years it still looked perfect. I cant say the same for my rx8 hood though :spank:

BigOLundh
01-30-2008, 09:52 PM
yup, real hit or miss... a clear sign of a bad manufacturer. Good brands arent hit or miss... they are all hits with the occcasional and very rare mistake or lapse.



-hS

Jeromie
01-30-2008, 10:12 PM
i can get most of it to look alright... but the main part thats was buggin me requires hood pins where the middle bolt by the fender is... 30-50 buks... i will see if its tolerable...

Kris
01-30-2008, 10:14 PM
i wouldnt say all good brands are a perfect fit. I have seen first hand quite a few authentic veilsides not fit perfectly.

If you want a perfect fit, the OEM MS is the only kit that will give it to you. We can all debate all we want, but after market is after market. There will be some issues with after market kits in terms of fitment etc. But the better (genuine) brands have these issues to a lesser degree.

RotoryMadness
01-30-2008, 11:20 PM
It looks like the real deal to me. I have the Seibon TSII. I have the knockoff MS kit. The kit needed a lot of work Half inch in some places. But when I got the hood it fit W/no probs. If your kit had fitment probs and the guy who did the bodywork adjusted it not as close as OEM. It may amplify probs. Also if it has to do with small clearence probs W/the fenders although it may look like the hood cannot be adjusted lossen up all the bolts and you can shift it minutly from side to sid and then tighten down. also when you ues the factory hood latch it makes the hood about a Quater to half inch too low. You could make a spacer as I did out of aluminun or place washers to space as a friend did. I know ppl who had the VIS hoods fly apart at the seems at speed. Nothing like that w/seibon.

onephatguy
01-30-2008, 11:34 PM
I got mine from invision (Sam) on this site, and the fit was horrible in my opinion. They said it was normal and didn't want to do anything about it. I found someone who did not mind the fit and they purchased it from me. I still lost money on the deal.

BigOLundh
01-31-2008, 10:46 PM
It looks like the real deal to me. I have the Seibon TSII. I have the knockoff MS kit. The kit needed a lot of work Half inch in some places. But when I got the hood it fit W/no probs. If your kit had fitment probs and the guy who did the bodywork adjusted it not as close as OEM. It may amplify probs. Also if it has to do with small clearence probs W/the fenders although it may look like the hood cannot be adjusted lossen up all the bolts and you can shift it minutly from side to sid and then tighten down. also when you ues the factory hood latch it makes the hood about a Quater to half inch too low. You could make a spacer as I did out of aluminun or place washers to space as a friend did. I know ppl who had the VIS hoods fly apart at the seems at speed. Nothing like that w/seibon.congrats on your innagaural post. finally coming out of the lurkers shadows.

just kidding. good info... hopefully others in the future who need to assist the fitment use the washers as well.

X Rx8
01-31-2008, 10:58 PM
Why even buy a CF hood when our hood is already aluminum

Juice
01-31-2008, 11:12 PM
If its an OEM style hood, it is usually just for looks. If it is vented, there can be benefits to getting heat out of the engine bay.

ЯX-8
01-31-2008, 11:26 PM
I got the Seibon TSII for looks and ventelation since we have a lot of heat in Las Vegas, but I will be painting it to match the car color.

a-spec fd
02-08-2008, 03:16 AM
Don’t worry about it man its a real seibon hood. Its an aftermarket hood so the fitment will always very. I today went to pick my seibon TSII hood from their where house on walnut st. I know for sure its real and the fitment is horrible!!!!! There is a gap in the front and on the drivers side. Its aftermarket and a knock off at that, so what. The only reason I got it was for the cool looking vents and since I cant afford the REAL R magic hood, this is the best alternative for me. It even feels the same weight as the stock hood. I'll post pics if you want.

ROCKSTAR RX8
02-08-2008, 11:16 AM
that looks like a real SEIBON hood dude... my looks exactly the same and the fitment is not perfect as well... it has huge gaps between the fenders~ mine came straight from SEIBON as sponsored products...

NgoRX8
02-08-2008, 06:26 PM
yea, iirc, that's how the seibon emblem is suppose to look too.