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[]RhOdEs[] 01-23-2008, 06:22 AM OK, i've been reading alot of posts about people driving to redline. I know the 8 screams, but, this can't be healthy. Like my old cars, very rarely do i redline them. Is the rotary able to handle this more than the typical v8?
DarkBrew 01-23-2008, 06:44 AM Yes. Do it or suffer seized intake port valves and carbon build up.
Rotaries love to rev! Redline every day
[]RhOdEs[] 01-23-2008, 06:50 AM You can't be serious..lol
Spin9k 01-23-2008, 07:19 AM Try it (redline) You'll like it. Git used to it. Do it regularly, just like brushing your teeth. You'll be a better person because of it. Trust us, we live here.
Startl_Respons 01-23-2008, 07:32 AM Make sure your car is warmed up to normal operating temp first before you redline it. I like to give my car some extra time cruising on the fwy so I have that peace of mind. Then I rev it to redline several times to burn carbon deposits out.
But yes redlining the RX8 is a part of healthy regular maintenance. If you don't, then you will guarantee yourself a premature engine rebuild.
Wind Dance 01-23-2008, 07:34 AM 9k a day keeps the mechanics away.
peterlemonjello 01-23-2008, 07:36 AM Search the forums. He is serious. Since the rotary isn't a reciprocating engine it's a different ball game. Experienced Mazda techs have told me the worst thing you can do to the rx8 is to baby it. Drive it like you stole it or run the risk of carbon build up problems.
Startl_Respons 01-23-2008, 07:46 AM BUT make sure it's warmed up FIRST.
Wind Dance 01-23-2008, 07:49 AM BUT make sure it's warmed up FIRST.
+1.. should be listed on the SE3P Bible.
1. Redline a day, Keeps the mechanics away.
2. Always properly warm up a Rotary.
3. Never skimp on oil.
chrism 01-23-2008, 09:43 AM the harder you hit it the stronger it gets......
nycgps 01-23-2008, 10:01 AM RhOdEs[];2257179']OK, i've been reading alot of posts about people driving to redline. I know the 8 screams, but, this can't be healthy. Like my old cars, very rarely do i redline them. Is the rotary able to handle this more than the typical v8?
You have a lot to learn my friend.
Even piston powered cars requires a redline once in a while.
Dont believe me? Go do a search
HiTMaNN 01-23-2008, 12:14 PM the harder you hit it the stronger it gets......
Thats what she said
LoL Redlining is bad ass I do it to often
rotarygod 01-23-2008, 12:57 PM A rotary is a very different animal. It loves to be at high rpms. It's very comfortable there. You can sit above 7K all day long with no issues whatsoever. The engine loves it. It keeps carbon out of it. This is one reason why rotaries are very popular in small aircraft. They are typically required to be at 7-8K rpm under load for long periods at a time. And they do it well above the ground where a failure is typically a fatal thing. There have been a few people to use LS1's for this purpose but they typically fail catastrophically! Rotaries love high rpms. Rev it up and feel good about it. Have fun!
Huey52 01-23-2008, 01:04 PM Yep, as everyone else has said, don't be afraid to rev it after it's properly warmed up.
btw: The rotors themselves turn at only 1/3 the speed of the drive shaft. Think about that!!
HiTMaNN 01-23-2008, 01:07 PM A rotary is a very different animal. It loves to be at high rpms. It's very comfortable there. You can sit above 7K all day long with no issues whatsoever. The engine loves it. It keeps carbon out of it. This is one reason why rotaries are very popular in small aircraft. They are typically required to be at 7-8K rpm under load for long periods at a time. And they do it well above the ground where a failure is typically a fatal thing. There have been a few people to use LS1's for this purpose but they typically fail catastrophically! Rotaries love high rpms. Rev it up and feel good about it. Have fun!
You always explain things so perfectly and when I look back at my response I sometimes feel like deleting it so no one thinks I am an idiot. While I have been here too long so I guess it is a little to late for that one. :P
mdw1000 01-23-2008, 01:14 PM My mazda tech (who has been working on rotaries since the late 80s) said at their tech training center, they have a rotary on a stand that they use to show the trainees how it revs. He said they often run it at 12,000 rpms for extended periods of time. And he's pretty sure its the same motor they were using when he started in the 80s.
Huey52 01-23-2008, 01:18 PM Indeed. The engine itself is capable of much higher speeds. It's 'limited' to 9k redline to protect the transmission.
faboo 01-23-2008, 01:19 PM It's not only rotaries either...there are many (usually 4 or smaller 6 cylinder) engines that rev up around redline all day long with out thinking much
Currin 01-23-2008, 01:27 PM RhOdEs[];2257179']OK, i've been reading alot of posts about people driving to redline. I know the 8 screams, but, this can't be healthy. Like my old cars, very rarely do i redline them. Is the rotary able to handle this more than the typical v8?
i asked the same Q awhile ago
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=131419
ZoomZoomH 01-23-2008, 01:32 PM i can honestly say that my 8's engine feels MUCH smoother after a full day of track driving compared to a typical day commuting to and from work.
Socket7 01-23-2008, 01:43 PM If mazda didn't want you revving it that high, why would they reward you with a beep for reaching the redline?
DOMINION 01-23-2008, 02:00 PM i can honestly say that my 8's engine feels MUCH smoother after a full day of track driving compared to a typical day commuting to and from work.
Funny you say that. My RX feels that way after I get off the freeway. I love that zooooom beeeep! zooooooooooom beeeeeep! :)
HiTMaNN 01-23-2008, 02:35 PM If mazda didn't want you revving it that high, why would they reward you with a beep for reaching the redline?
The beeping tells you and MNAO of abuse :icon_no2: :icon_no2: :icon_no2: :icon_no2: :icon_no2:
rotarygod 01-23-2008, 02:56 PM If mazda didn't want you revving it that high, why would they reward you with a beep for reaching the redline?
That's just the factory equivalent of a shift light!
[]RhOdEs[] 01-24-2008, 03:22 AM That's just the factory equivalent of a shift light!
OK,,,, shift at the beep,,, after it's warmed up. Gotcha!
stuartm 01-24-2008, 04:12 AM It would be better to replace the beep with homer going " woo-hoo"
Huey52 01-24-2008, 06:45 AM ^ +1 :)
kersh4w 01-24-2008, 10:31 PM i think its kinda bad that the 8 drives so much better after abusing it. i would abuse it all day long if i could, but cops and gas stand in my way. especially cops.
even my transmission shifts smoother after hard driving.
:(
i need my own personal 4 mile long race track.
TeamRX8 01-24-2008, 10:44 PM It would be better to replace the beep with homer going " woo-hoo"
:lol:
nycgps 01-24-2008, 10:45 PM or Austin Power's *Shake it Baby!*
[]RhOdEs[] 01-25-2008, 03:56 AM Well I'm having trouble convincing my wife about this. Now every onramp I accelerate off,,, i get.."THE LOOK"... yaknow the one where she peers over to see how fast i'm goin,, then the look at me,,, like ya do it,,, and yer "cut off for a week"... damn... redline or no sex ,,, this is a real situation I got now!
^^^ LOL, that is why the speedo is hidden from the passenger seat.
[]RhOdEs[] 01-25-2008, 04:44 AM ^^^ LOL, that is why the speedo is hidden from the passenger seat.
She leans over,,, :cussing:
Dammit - we are out smarted AGAIN!!!!!!
Wind Dance 01-25-2008, 04:46 AM RhOdEs[];2261297']She leans over,,, :cussing:
Just calmly with a smile explain.. I was just trying to get ahead of that truck, dear. LOL and seal with a :kiss:
[]RhOdEs[] 01-25-2008, 04:50 AM Well,,, if I'm not going to be "Gettin any".. might as well have a helluva ride.,,, think we need a new Post,,, "[]RhOdEs[] excuses to redline the 8. Remember,, they gota be good enough to convince her.
Wind Dance 01-25-2008, 04:54 AM RhOdEs[];2261301']Well,,, if I'm not going to be "Gettin any".. might as well have a helluva ride.,,, think we need a new Post,,, "[]RhOdEs[] excuses to redline the 8. Remember,, they gota be good enough to convince her.
Cop pulls you over.
"Uh sorry sir, My wife has just threaten to cut me off.. "
LOL
HiTMaNN 01-25-2008, 05:34 AM Getting Laid > Hitting 9k RPM or is it the opposite :O
Wind Dance 01-25-2008, 05:45 AM Getting Laid > Hitting 9k RPM or is it the opposite :O
If you had it the other way around... ionno what to say.. :rofl:
nycgps 01-25-2008, 08:52 AM Everytime I redline, GF gonna scream like *SLOW DOWN*
I was about to go buy a Civic just bcuz of that ! why ? bcuz
"You want to slow down, you have to get a Civic!"
Renesis SE3P 01-25-2008, 09:12 AM It's not only rotaries either...there are many (usually 4 or smaller 6 cylinder) engines that rev up around redline all day long with out thinking much
Exactly, look at motorcycles, my CBR starts redlining at 15k. :)
Metal Soldier 01-25-2008, 11:04 AM If mazda didn't want you revving it that high, why would they reward you with a beep for reaching the redline?
:lol: :lol: I hate waiting to get some miles on my engine replacement. I want to do some high-rev driving again.
[]RhOdEs[] 01-26-2008, 03:36 AM Exactly, look at motorcycles, my CBR starts redlining at 15k. :)
I agree with bikes,,, i rode the hell outa my 04 CBR 600RR. But,,, I did that with all my bikes. Not so much my cars.
[]RhOdEs[] 01-26-2008, 03:38 AM RhOdEs[];2263127']I agree with bikes,,, i rode the hell outa my 04 CBR 600RR. But,,, I did that with all my bikes. Not so much my cars.
A rev limiter sounds much better on a bike with a loud pipe on it, than the beep in the 8.
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