i think that mazda should make a new rx7. how would you guys like the rx7 to be like?

Originally posted by unemployedpimp
i think that mazda should make a new rx7. how would you guys like the rx7 to be like? 2 doors. Tad faster, tad lighter.

RX-8 body style is fine by me.

Though I do think this is better posted in the RX7Forums :)

like a Pagani Zonda, with a rear mount 3 rotor twin-turbo making 500+ hp... duh :)

Originally posted by R.Cade
like a Pagani Zonda, with a rear mount 3 rotor twin-turbo making 500+ hp... duh :) :eek:

McLaren F1 :D

well i was going to post one of styjan's photochops from his "try to guess what i did to this pic" thread. but the pics seem to have been lost in the server crash. but that is what i would like to see the rx-7 look like. maybe styjan still has a copy he can post?

lower and bit less large than the RX-8. And offcourse a 2-seater with 2 normal doors.

More than a bit lighter, preferably more than a bit faster.

I'd like to see 2500-2600 lbs (not impossible, the Toyota Celica weighs 2500-2600) with a standard 250 hp engine an an optional 300 hp motor. Cut 10 inches out of the wheelbase, leaving it at 96 inches, which is the traditional RX-7 wheelbase length - every RX-7 made has had between a 95 and 96 inch wheelbase, give or take a few tenths. Lower the beltline and roofline several inches, and the proprtions will be such that 17" wheels will look very nice as the stock rims (the FD looked great with 16s).

As for looks, there are plenty of good RX-7 cues to work from. Number one, I'd keep the popup lights for legality (headlights must be 23" from the ground) but using some modern lighting techniques they showed on the RX-EVOLV, make the "flash to pass" lenses bright enough to be used effectively as headlights. An evolution of the FD's styling would be fine. For a bit more edge, incorporate the character line that runs from the fender bulges around to the nose on the FC into the styling, as well as the Turbo II's hood scoop (this time for a ram-effect intake instead of an intercooler). Keep the theme of the five-point Mazda grille for the lower intake, though wider and flatter like on the last JDM FDs, flanked by more aggressive intakes to either side for oil coolers and perhaps intercoolers should a turbo model ever materialize. The tail should combine elements of the SA/FB and the FC (I think the FD's tail is its weakest point stylistically), but instead of smoked lenses or the currently trendy "Altezza lights," I'd go back to the RX-3 with simply exposed triple round lights on each side, two red lenses (one with backup lights in the center like a Ferrari, though in this case make them rotor shaped :D ) and one amber turn signal on either side, with the plate recess inbetween. A hatchback is a must, and with regulations being changed in the US to allow cars to use plastic compounds in place of front and rear glass, make the rear window as light as possible. A wing similar to that of the one on the 88 and later FCs would be very nice, with the same proportions in that it was not tall but hung over the rear almost as far as the rear bumper.

Finally, PLEASE no Audi-style fender bulges like on the RX-8 - fender flares need not be perfectly circular. Something more organic and less architectural would be great.

Originally posted by SmokingClutch
More than a bit lighter, preferably more than a bit faster.

I'd go back to the RX-3 with simply exposed triple round lights on each side, two red lenses (one with backup lights in the center like a Ferrari, though in this case make them rotor shaped :D ) and one amber turn signal on either side, with the plate recess inbetween.

Sheesh, enough with the rotor symbolism! This is getting trite. I'd rather they remove a few rotor cues and add an extra rotor under the hood.

here ya go pimpman, here is styan pic which is also my pick
http://www.vernova.com/Styjan/4grx-72.jpg

I love the FD body style. It will be hard for me to get over anything that is radically different, but over time I'm sure I can adjust as long as it inherits some previous design traits.

Here is another RX-8/RX-7 morph that is a little different then the other one I did.
http://www.vernova.com/Styjan/4grx-7.jpg
It's a little longer and the back window rakes different.

Styjan, I really like your rendition, the shorter version. My only desire would be a more aggresive front fascia. While I like the RX-8's front end, I think it would be a bit too pedestrian for an Rx-7.

What would you all want in terms of price and power? I think it would be smart of them to offer two engines and transmissions. The lower power version would be a Renesis with a 6-Speed (standard), and the flagship model would offer a 6-speed or Sequential gearbox connected to a 3-rotor Renesis making ~350hp N/A. As for pricing, I beleive that the cheaper RX-7 would own everything if it were priced around $33,000-$35,000. Add a few thousand for options and it would be a maximum of $39,000. I think for a 3-rotor a starting price of around $45,000-$50,000, loaded at no more than $53,000 would be perfect. Both cars would dominate in their segments, and would satisfy everyone. I would assume that the 2-Rotor would have a 0-60 of somewhere around 5 seconds, and the 3-Rotor would be somewhere around 4.5. The ownage would be collossal. What do you think?

Whenever I take my FD out, people often think that it's a brand new exotic and are truly suprised to find out that it's actually an 8-year-old Mazda. Not that I think that the 4th gen should necessarily look like an FD, I just want to see another classic, elegant, and sexy design that will stand the test of time; not some ugly Audi TT copy (like every other company seems to be doing these days) that will look old in 5 years.

Originally posted by velociti
What would you all want in terms of price and power? I think it would be smart of them to offer two engines and transmissions. The lower power version would be a Renesis with a 6-Speed (standard), and the flagship model would offer a 6-speed or Sequential gearbox connected to a 3-rotor Renesis making ~350hp N/A. As for pricing, I beleive that the cheaper RX-7 would own everything if it were priced around $33,000-$35,000. Add a few thousand for options and it would be a maximum of $39,000. I think for a 3-rotor a starting price of around $45,000-$50,000, loaded at no more than $53,000 would be perfect. Both cars would dominate in their segments, and would satisfy everyone. I would assume that the 2-Rotor would have a 0-60 of somewhere around 5 seconds, and the 3-Rotor would be somewhere around 4.5. The ownage would be collossal. What do you think?
First of all, what makes you think that people would actually pay $50k for a Mazda rotary? As you may know, the FD was a flop sales-wise.

But realistically we don't need to worry about that, since I don't see how the car could possibly get anywhere near that expensive.

Start with a $26k RX-8, strip off two doors, seats, and a bunch of metal and glass, and you're at about $24k. So feasably, you could add the more powerful engine (whatever it ends up being) and a bunch of other goodies like bigger brakes, lighter wheels, etc. and that would still put you at only about $30k. Add every single possible option to that, and we're talking maybe $34k-$35k tops.

Originally posted by m477

Add every single possible option to that, and we're talking maybe $34k-$35k tops.
you're right, mazda couldn't sell enough to make a profit if it was priced well above the Z.

I think it look something like the FD with shaper edges and a slightly different personality to it. The FD was such a beautiful car that it should be the inspiration for the next RX7.

i'm with Cueball, and i think Smokin'Clutch really hit the nail on the head too: incorperating many cues from the lineage...
i ADORE the look of the FD, it's just that its shape is a functional problem for people much taller than i (i'm 6'2'', but haven't yet attempted to squeeze into one... i've had a close look or two, and i suppose i could do it, i don't mind having my legs bent), so i think a return to the FC's cabin size would definitely be in order... i'm with SC in that i'm not a huge fan of the single wrap around lens, but i personally wouldn't go so far as to source inspiration from a non-7 for the rear end. the shape of the butt of the car is sensuous and fast, much like the women i enjoy dating (maybe why i love that car so much), but the tail lights DO need a little reworking. i say look at the post '89 FC's for the look to have...
the reflectors and light setup that has been RX-7 hallmark MUST be retained, with a low nose, long hood, and high wheel arches a must (for me), although i don't think the wheels need to be 20'' in diameter: the last 7 had glorious (although simple) wheels, and the size should be carried over, with a few ounces removed and a little style injected.
a windshield that's not raked too far back (to keep the long hood look really really prevolent), the sculpted and smooth roofline of the FD, with the obligatory hatch (maybe with a bit of useable space, a la the FC), and a polite AND FUNCTIONAL wing.
jeez, i could go on, and on, and on, and on... so i'll stop. ;)

I would like the new RX-7 looked somewhat like this concept drawing:

I love the look of that concept... she just needs pop-up headlights.

Originally posted by Beemer
I would like the new RX-7 looked somewhat like this concept drawing: http://www.rx8forum.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=16888

IMHO, i always think that the 7 look a bit similar to a viper GTS-R or a Vette Z07... or they copy from the 7... :D

If Mazda ever going to build another 7 it should have: 50/50 weight distribution, light weight, powerful and sexy... just imagine the 7(FD3S) is a 10 yr old car now... but yet its still a beauty!!!

I hope Mazda increase the size of the engine compartment to cool the 3 rotor engine... ;) ahhh... wat the heck... 3 turbo for each rotor... hahahah :D

oopsss... i forgot the pix

Originally posted by Styjan
I love the FD body style. It will be hard for me to get over anything that is radically different, but over time I'm sure I can adjust as long as it inherits some previous design traits.

Here is another RX-8/RX-7 morph that is a little different then the other one I did.
http://www.vernova.com/Styjan/4grx-7.jpg
It's a little longer and the back window rakes different.


that shit id the ugluiest thing i ever saw!! guys leave the rx8 alone