View Full Version : Does your sunroof rattle?


Javafuel
10-23-2003, 12:45 AM
Lately, the sunroof in my car is making rattling noise whenever car vibrates. I did some "tests", it rattles regardless the sunroof is open or closed. Any advice? Thanx.

Elak
10-23-2003, 01:11 AM
Yeah I have that. Sounds liks a small bag of sand or something on top of the sliding inner ceiling in mine. Can't see anything loose, so I'm just learning to live with it. If you figure it out, I'd be grateful for a hint.

/Elak

Dugless
10-23-2003, 06:06 AM
I just noticed that today!!!!

It doesn't make any noise when the sun shade is closed though...... But what good is that?

RX-8 2004
10-23-2003, 07:23 AM
Ahh okay, Question,

Anyone ever own a car that the sunroof did not have some sort of problem ?

I have owned 5 cars with sunroofs/moonroofs ... Sadly to say everyone I have had, had some kinda malfunction/problem with them. Everything from leaking to electrical, getting stuck in the opening position, not opening, Gear stripping in the motor, and rattling too.

I bought a sport model just for this one reason alone .. I did not want another sunroof.

Winning_BlueRX8
10-23-2003, 10:00 AM
mine makes a squeek noise. Sounds like the trim around the sunroof is rubbing against something. I only hear it with the cover open though.

jdl
10-23-2003, 10:26 AM
My vibration/rattle is coming from the manual slider. My best description of the sound is like there's a cable or wire loose that rattles just a tiny bit -- but a very annoying noise. It tends to really come on while on the freeway, and was surprisingly hard to reproduce on side roads when I took the service manager for a ride on a QA run to point out the noise. Lately, though, it's become louder and more ever-present, freeway or no.

I discovered that slight pressure on the inner slider stops the rattle: release and it's back. This happens in any slider position, full open, full closed, partially open...so maybe a thin bit of weatherstrip will be enough to tame this rattle? I may end up trying something like that.

On the other hand, my wife's '97 Honda Prelude has a moonroof that's been perfectly silent and 100% trouble-free over the years. Well, 'they make it simple' & it just works by our experience.

RX22
10-23-2003, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by RX-8 2004
Ahh okay, Question,

Anyone ever own a car that the sunroof did not have some sort of problem ?

I have owned 5 cars with sunroofs/moonroofs ... Sadly to say everyone I have had, had some kinda malfunction/problem with them. Everything from leaking to electrical, getting stuck in the opening position, not opening, Gear stripping in the motor, and rattling too.

I bought a sport model just for this one reason alone .. I did not want another sunroof.

Not being a smart a, but I've had 3 VW Corrados, 2 RX7s and a Maxima and none of them had any problem at all. Although I have had a couple of other cars that had rattles. Maybe I was just lucky.

nash
10-23-2003, 03:46 PM
Mine was making a noise too, that stopped when I slid the sunshade just ever so slightly closed. After driving like that for a while, I moved it back to fully open, and it hasn't made the noise since. I think something is just loose in there, so you have to bang on a it a bit to get it to shut up :)

cruzdreamer
10-23-2003, 05:42 PM
My experience with sunroofs are great. I never buy a car without one. 7 cars...7 sunroofs.....zero problems. Hope you figurre it out. Guess I am lucky.

Javafuel
10-23-2003, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by jdl
My vibration/rattle is coming from the manual slider. My best description of the sound is like there's a cable or wire loose that rattles just a tiny bit -- but a very annoying noise. It tends to really come on while on the freeway, and was surprisingly hard to reproduce on side roads when I took the service manager for a ride on a QA run to point out the noise. Lately, though, it's become louder and more ever-present, freeway or no.

I discovered that slight pressure on the inner slider stops the rattle: release and it's back. This happens in any slider position, full open, full closed, partially open...so maybe a thin bit of weatherstrip will be enough to tame this rattle? I may end up trying something like that.

Mine rattles more frequently on the freeway too, it rarely rattles when driving on the surface streets. But mine rattles with inner slider closed or open, it is getting louder. So, your local dealer didn't fix the problem?

There was no problems with my past 2 cars' sunroofs. The CRX Si lasted over 10 years, good old Honda! Sunroof is a must if you live in S Cal.

loco4rx8
10-23-2003, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by RX-8 2004
Ahh okay, Question,

Anyone ever own a car that the sunroof did not have some sort of problem ?

I have owned 5 cars with sunroofs/moonroofs ... Sadly to say everyone I have had, had some kinda malfunction/problem with them. Everything from leaking to electrical, getting stuck in the opening position, not opening, Gear stripping in the motor, and rattling too.

I bought a sport model just for this one reason alone .. I did not want another sunroof.


I feel the same way. Hence, mine's a sport package, too.

My Accord sunroof rattled, and Honda suggested I use Shin-Etsu silicone grease on the rails and moulding. It helped quite a bit, but I had to keep re-applying it when it dried out. Got mine from a Honda dealer online, FWIW. Good luck getting it to quiet down.

8_wannabe
10-24-2003, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by RX22
Not being a smart a, but I've had 3 VW Corrados, 2 RX7s and a Maxima and none of them had any problem at all. Although I have had a couple of other cars that had rattles. Maybe I was just lucky.

Ditto. This is my 4th sunroof, 1st Mazda, never had any kind of problem whatsoever. The s/r gods are smiling on me.

Despite the cycling a/c and low mileage, I don't have the oil light problem, no rattles or squeaks, good radio reception, no skipping CD, no chafing leather seats, no vapor lock, flooding engine, or trees falling on my roof. so all in all, I count myself lucky.

jtimbck2
10-27-2003, 04:27 PM
My sunroof rattles too. I'm learning to ignore it.

Shocka
10-27-2003, 04:35 PM
my sunroof rattles too i guess. there is some rattling never could figure it out.

i just turn the music up.

as for problems with sunroofs. my 97 civic and 00 galant but have sunroofs with no problems.

Javafuel
10-28-2003, 01:12 AM
I now confirm the rattle noise is coming from the slider. When the slider is open, it rattles more frequently. It stops rattle when I push up on the right corner of slider (in open position). I hope Mazda have a solution. Thanks for all your inputs. Zoom on!!

RX8 RX8 RX8
03-21-2005, 02:26 PM
Add me to the list off sunroof rattles. It did not do it for the first 3 months of ownership, but a 11 months you would think that the entire unit was dislodged and could go shooting onto the highway at any minuet.

I can live with the noise that results from putting the car into a hard turn (flexing the body) with the sunroof open, but the straight line driving rattles are a pain.

Anyone have a suggestion for a self fix? Or is it a trip to the service department??
Thanks

rockin
03-21-2005, 03:16 PM
on my car the rattle came from a steel pin that is on the shade. The pin is located where the shade slides in the track. It is on top and at the back of the shade. I but a small piece of felt with adheasive on it and the rattle is gone. if you want to know more info I can send a pix.

RX8 RX8 RX8
03-21-2005, 06:53 PM
Excellent Rockin! I think everyone would benifit from the PIC...can you not post it here?

Thanks Again

rockin
03-21-2005, 08:49 PM
Open the moon roof using the open switch not the vent switch. Just open the moon roof enouph to get it at the max angle. You do no want it to begin to slide aft because if further decreases your work space. Make sure the shade is closed. The pix is not good but feel the top of the shade were the arrow is (top of shade, back and in the track) you will feel a small steel clip. The clip makes contact with the guide and causes the rattle. I used a screwdriver and some sticky felt (you can buy this at any craft store and it comes in 8 1/2 x 11 sheets for about $2) and fed it between the clip and the track with the sticky side down (hopeing it would stick to the clip on the shade). I did this about 6 months ago and have not heard a wisper from the moon roff since. Hope this helps, the working space is tight, you could remove the moon roof if you wanted but I was conserned I would not get the fit proper again. Good luck.

RX8 RX8 RX8
03-21-2005, 08:53 PM
Excellent! Thanks, I will try this fix and let you know how it worked out.

kmg1186
03-21-2005, 09:17 PM
my moonroof is fine. guess i'm a lucky one :rolleyes:

good luck with yours. its those little things that annoy me the most!

socalightning
03-22-2005, 12:58 AM
Mine rattles when it's closed. I think it's loose on the passenger side, so either the metal prop/brace is loose and makes the noise and/or it's loose enough to cause the glass to rub weird on the rubber seal. My previous Pontiac had an aftermarket power moonroof with a similar rattle though - never fixed it. Wish my 8's sunroof closed automatically (without holding the button) like my Pontiac's though - cool feature.

Brice-RX8
03-31-2005, 09:40 AM
so does this felt go in between the pin and the metal track that it looks like it slides through and is the fix still working for you rockin?

rockin
03-31-2005, 06:12 PM
Yes it goes between the pin and the track with the sticky side on the pin (down). Yes it still works, I was concerned with the warm temps of summer because they tend to soften the sticky glue on the felt but it has not fallen off. I hope it works for you. keep me posted, good luck.

success07
06-22-2006, 06:14 PM
Mine has somewhat of an achy sound when the sunroof is open. It's different than a rattle but equally as annoying. Any ideas? The dealership said that all thr RX8's are like that. I'm thinking.........probably not.

Rotator
07-04-2006, 10:49 PM
White Lithium based grease on all the sliding surfaces worked for about 1 year or so.
I will look into the felt.

VOODOO8
07-05-2006, 10:42 AM
As a less permanent fix, I have used some fairly viscous silicone grease to buffer the mechanical contact points in the slide mechanism and related. It works for a while until the grease wears off the points of contact.

Picking the right grease is an important consideration, don't want something that is water soluable nor something that could freeze, etc. Depending on your individual locale, other considerations might come in to play...

zoom44
07-05-2006, 11:05 AM
i understand that for some sun roof rattles mazda is replacing the whole track/rails.

Cool-Blue-Dad
07-05-2006, 03:18 PM
Never rattled (and I do drive hard over bad, bad roads).

cjkim
07-05-2006, 03:30 PM
Mine used to rattle. Brought it to the dealer, said they "tightened" it (that's all they said) and I haven't had a problem since.

Jedi54
07-05-2006, 03:53 PM
i understand that for some sun roof rattles mazda is replacing the whole track/rails.

YUP, I just took mine in for an oil change last week and brought up the sunroof rattle. Dealership has ordered the parts and I should be getting it fixed some time this week.

I'll update with part #'s in a little bit.

Jackallll
07-23-2006, 03:48 PM
mine just started rattling a couple weeks ago when totally open. me thinks a tightening is in order but i can't replicate the rattling unless i'm driving. i'll add that to the list of things the dealer needs to attend to on my next visit...

VOODOO8
07-23-2006, 08:29 PM
YUP, I just took mine in for an oil change last week and brought up the sunroof rattle. Dealership has ordered the parts and I should be getting it fixed some time this week.

I'll update with part #'s in a little bit.

If you coud Jedi, please advise how the dealership went about the repair. I've been told by my primary servicing dealer that they have to take the entire headliner on the roof ceiling as part of the repair - just want to get confirmation from somebody who is actually having the fix done.

Thanks!

roytheboy
08-05-2006, 12:27 PM
I have a rattle / loud tapping noise which only occurs when the sunroof is tilted. Originally thought it was coming from right rear of car, but can now confirm that is under the headlining. Dealer has tried to fix it on 3 occasions, and failed each time! (He had the car for 2 days last time and stripped out the headlining to 'make some adjustments').
Any ideas?

VOODOO8
08-05-2006, 01:57 PM
I have a rattle / loud tapping noise which only occurs when the sunroof is tilted. Originally thought it was coming from right rear of car, but can now confirm that is under the headlining. Dealer has tried to fix it on 3 occasions, and failed each time! (He had the car for 2 days last time and stripped out the headlining to 'make some adjustments').
Any ideas?

My dealer (Werner in "ManchVegas" NH) told me a couple of weeks back that Mazda had finally come out with a TSB and repair kit which involves replacing the rails/sliders. To install, it requires pulling out the headliner.

Jackallll
08-05-2006, 02:03 PM
hmm...i'm brining mine in next week for this and other issues. i wonder when the tsb will come out.

Old Rotor
08-14-2006, 09:06 PM
I wonder if this "TSB" would fix any of your probs.....let us know if it dose....

http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/pdf/09-029-06-1651.pdf

Rotator
08-15-2006, 09:32 AM
That TSB uses the word "squeak". Most of the complaints are "rattle".
Mine really rattles - especially on a rough road.

pdxhak
08-15-2006, 10:33 AM
My sunroof rattles when it is tilted back. It is going in soon for the flooding tsb so I will request them to look into this as well.

roytheboy
08-15-2006, 11:42 AM
Thanks to Old Rotor for posting the TSB. It came as a suprise to my dealer! However, I believe there is a separate problem distinct from the squeak described, and that is the rattle that usually occurs with the sunroof tilted whilst driving on an uneven or bendy road, and appears to come from the left hand rail under the headlining. My dealer has yet to rectify this after 3 visits despite removing the headlining and 'making adjustments'. There appears to be quite a few of us with this problem. We will just have to nag our dealers until one of them comes up with the solution!

Jackallll
08-15-2006, 01:37 PM
Thanks to Old Rotor for posting the TSB. It came as a suprise to my dealer! However, I believe there is a separate problem distinct from the squeak described, and that is the rattle that usually occurs with the sunroof tilted whilst driving on an uneven or bendy road, and appears to come from the left hand rail under the headlining. My dealer has yet to rectify this after 3 visits despite removing the headlining and 'making adjustments'. There appears to be quite a few of us with this problem. We will just have to nag our dealers until one of them comes up with the solution!


it's a royal pita to diagnose. that was the reason i didnt bother bringing it up when i was at the dealer the other day (that and the fact getting the brakes/AC/center console fixed was more important to me).

Edmonton s/silv
09-12-2006, 07:18 PM
My sunroof rattles/ vibrates when open and at a low RPM. I took it in and they heard the noise but cannot fix it. The dealership indicated it was it was from the body shaking, but indicated nothing would fix it..............in drive thru its so bad i am embarrassed

Jedi54
09-12-2006, 07:31 PM
I finally got this fixed on my car! I've got the invoice at home and I'll put up the part #'s that the dealership ordered / replaced.

VOODOO8
09-12-2006, 10:46 PM
My dealer (Werner in "ManchVegas" NH) told me a couple of weeks back that Mazda had finally come out with a TSB and repair kit which involves replacing the rails/sliders. To install, it requires pulling out the headliner.

Just had the repair done under the "Sqeeking Noise from Sunroof" TSB (http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/bulletins_index.html). Done deal!!! No more irritating rattles and sqeeks. :ylsuper:

Cool-Blue-Dad
09-19-2006, 12:54 PM
Just had the repair done under the "Sqeeking Noise from Sunroof" TSB (http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/bulletins_index.html). Done deal!!! No more irritating rattles and sqeeks. :ylsuper:How was the quality of their work? I'd be leery of them removing the headliner. Did they reinstall it properly?

Jedi54
09-19-2006, 01:10 PM
How was the quality of their work? I'd be leery of them removing the headliner. Did they reinstall it properly?

Mine actually looks pretty good. I haven't done the thorough inspection but at a quick glance, you couln't even tell they touched it. (except for the 3 finger prints I found near the map lights...easily cleaned off)

VOODOO8
09-19-2006, 01:58 PM
How was the quality of their work? I'd be leery of them removing the headliner. Did they reinstall it properly?

Same results as jedi54, minus the fingerprints. Werner Mazda in "ManchVegas", NH came through again! :rock:

Edmonton s/silv
09-29-2006, 12:36 AM
thx tsb is great...my guys hate it when i show them that.........beware let them know before warranty expires because then the try and say its just recommended and my tech cannot duplicate the problem..............

roytheboy
10-10-2006, 02:13 PM
Finally had my sunroof fix done today in accordance with the TSB. No rattles so far. Nice clean job with no damage or fingerprints! Dealer even valleted the car inside and out. Also had 36 month service done at same time. Didn't realise spark plugs were so expensive! (£62 plus 17.5% tax per pair........ouch!)

blueballz
11-07-2006, 11:40 AM
here is the answer

http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/pdf/09-029-06-1651.pdf

Old Rotor
11-09-2006, 01:43 AM
here is the answer

http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/pdf/09-029-06-1651.pdf

Yes thats what was on the page before Mesg# 37 on Aug 14...........

18bsTiRX8
12-19-2006, 01:14 PM
I just had the TSB repair done to my 8. The sunroof is now solid a rock...doesn't move around like it did before so I guess that is good.

I did notice a problem though....now when opening the sunroof, I hear a loud click/knock from the rear of the glass. Did anyone else experience this noise AFTER having the repair done???

DaveCM203
12-19-2006, 01:22 PM
If you go fast enough, the force from the wind will stop it. JK

I complained several months ago about the rattle. I figured they would lube it up. That seemed to work for a while on others I had with sunroofs. They called me and told me that the motor was not putting out enough torque (or something, can't exactly remember) and they ordered me a new one. Since they replaced it, it has been fine so far. Still some rattle when open, but I think that is normal with a spoiler type like we have.

NOTE***** When they replaced the motor the mechanic ran the crews in too far and they hit the roof and pushed two little nipples out. I did not notice it until I washed the car. So, if they replace your motor, look to see if you 8 now has two little tits about 4 or 5 inches behind the windshield.

18bsTiRX8
12-19-2006, 01:25 PM
With this repair though....does your sunroof make a loud "cracking" like sound when it first opens. Like when it is completely closed and you hit the button to open it......

This is new for mine after the repair.

VOODOO8
12-19-2006, 02:23 PM
I just had the TSB repair done to my 8. The sunroof is now solid a rock...doesn't move around like it did before so I guess that is good.

I did notice a problem though....now when opening the sunroof, I hear a loud click/knock from the rear of the glass. Did anyone else experience this noise AFTER having the repair done???

No similar issue with mine post the TSB repair. It worked without fault and has remained quiet (so far :icon_tup: )

Stavesacre21
03-31-2007, 12:35 AM
Hey guys...I've recently had the joy of experiencing the rattling sunroof as well. I was wondering about the updated status of those who have had the repair done.

First and foremost, did it completely stop the rattle?

Second, i've heard about the loud cracking when it opens...i figured it to be the tightness of the new rails breaking in. However, has this loud cracking subsided or at least quieted down at all?

I'd appriciate any input on this one, as i'm starting to consider having this done. Small thing, but it's getting annoying quickly when the radios off.

DarkBrew
03-31-2007, 12:40 AM
My dealer has the rails on order for me so I'll update when they get installed.

Jedi54
03-31-2007, 12:53 AM
mine got replaced a while back and it's rattle free. :) I think it did make slight noises at first but now they're gone.

OH, speaking of which...mine sounds like it needs to be lubricated; any suggestions on what to use?

Stavesacre21
03-31-2007, 08:55 AM
white grease usually seems to work miracles in most of those type of spots. I'm pretty sure that the stock lubrication has to be something similar to that nature.

I'll be sure to check in on this post as more answer and after more have it performed. I'm leary of this TSB, but gosh dang, it's annoying.

VOODOO8
03-31-2007, 09:43 AM
No similar issue with mine post the TSB repair. It worked without fault and has remained quiet (so far :icon_tup: )

Still quiet here!!! :rofl:

Rotator
04-01-2007, 09:54 AM
Had this done about 6 weeks ago. TSB claims 2.7hrs - Mazda didn't give my car back for over 10 days.
Went in with rattles when open - white lithium grease aided this.
Came out with new sunroof and rattle free? Not so much.
Headliner has many dirt marks from the replacement.
A pillar trim was not positioned properly - since fixed
Dome light plastic trim gouged - replaced
Somehow my amplifier power cable hidden under the door sill trim was exposed.

There were a whole host of other issues with the service not related to the sunroof.

Word of warning - ALWAYS examine the condition of your car before going into the dealer - record any damage, odometer, etc.
Before taking the car off the lot - thoroughly examine the condition of the car. After you get off the lot it may be too late.

Observations of the new sunroof.
Closed - creaking and rattle that can be stopped by pressing up on the leading edge centre of the headliner. Was quiet before the "FIX"
This may be temperature dependant - haven't figured it out.

So a word of caution - you may end up with bigger problem(s), loss of use of your car, and a few hours to clean up careless dirt monkeys in your car.

I'll report on whether the OPEN RATTLE is gone when it warms up here.

I can't beleive MAZDA did so well in the TOP GEAR survey in the UK. I try to avoid the statanic evilness aka mazda dealer service at all costs.
I have never been dissapointed at the consistency of their ineptness. 4 dealers so far, and only 1 that I would like to go back to happens to be the furthest away.

18bsTiRX8
04-05-2007, 11:58 AM
With this repair though....does your sunroof make a loud "cracking" like sound when it first opens. Like when it is completely closed and you hit the button to open it......

This is new for mine after the repair.

Just an update...the TSB did FIX the problem. The loud cracking noise (which the dealer claimed was NORMAL) was actually the result of the tech installing the glass in BACKWARDS. The noise was from the clips in the front of the glass that normally push down the wind deflector...they were now on the backside and snapping off the sheet metal. Just one of many issues with my '05 and service at the local dealer....

I can now say that my new '07 RX8, thanks to Mazda, does not have this issue, and I now drive 30min PAST my old dealer to the new dealer that takes care of my service...couldn't be happier. :ylsuper:

Stavesacre21
04-06-2007, 10:10 AM
wow, that'd be sad to think that ALL those people claiming that loud snapping sound had their sunroofs put back in backwards. That would be absitively, posilutely REDICULOUS.

18bsTiRX8
04-08-2007, 09:58 AM
Just to clarify, the rattling noise everyone is complaining of has to do with the sunroof rails.

The snapping noise I am referring to was something totally different...it was the result of the dealer performing the sunroof rail repair incorrectly (and then saying it was normal, not realizing they put the roof in backwards). I do not think this is a common problem, and it was definately not done at the factory.

I guess the key point in the second part of my story is proof that Mazda has to do some serious improvement of it's dealer base. This particular dealer got caught red handed, making up a story about another "normal", but clearly obvious defect. Makes you wonder about everything else they claim is normal...

DarkBrew
04-08-2007, 10:36 AM
I got my rails installed per TSB on Thursday but the snow has precluded a test for now :(
In my garage I opened it and didn't hear any snapping sound. Also the looseness is gone and it feels solid.
With my old rails I could grab the sunroof panel when open and move it around to clearly demonstrate the clunking sound to the service people. Since they could never 'duplicate the problem' this turned out to be important. Now I'm looking forward to a warm day to try it out!

Stavesacre21
04-08-2007, 09:59 PM
either of you notice any problems with your interior being put back together properly? How about dirty or damaged panels or roof?

DarkBrew
04-08-2007, 10:15 PM
My car smelled of cleaning solution but I didn't see any dirt or damage.

18bsTiRX8
04-09-2007, 04:28 PM
No dirt or damage here either...but I wouldn't be surprised. Mine was clean only because I very clearly stated that they better make sure it doesn't get dirty/damaged. But they threw that back in my face when they took 10 days to repair mine too...said they were being careful. In the end, the glass still ended up backwards so they can take 3 months and still not know what they are doing.

Stavesacre21
04-09-2007, 09:13 PM
err...sounds like a hit or miss on customer service...status quo for mazda. I'm probably gonna be heading in to get this done pretty soon, although i might have to wait until the shake is a little worse before they agree it's a problem.

You can't really move and shake the sunroof yet with your hand. Were you guys able to before you got it done?

Mine just recently started making shaking sounds on very slight bumps.

DarkBrew
04-09-2007, 10:04 PM
I could easily move the drivers side of the sunroof back and forth and side to side about 1/4" with a nice clunk when in the full open position. The roof would also clunk in the vent position and would rattle and squeak in the closed position.
The service rep said that they couldn't hear any problem on a test drive! I dragged the guy over and demonstrated the problem to him. They took it in the next day to confirm the issue and then ordered the part. The next week it was installed. So three visits to fix it.

Rotator
05-03-2007, 05:45 PM
either of you notice any problems with your interior being put back together properly? How about dirty or damaged panels or roof?

My A-Pillar Trims were not replaced properly
There were many dirt marks on the headliner - not fixed yet.

Update:

Brought back in the car for Sunroof Problems.

What are the problems?

1. Rattles When Closed as opposed to Open before replacement - nice tradeoff.
2. Clean the dirt marks on the headliner
3. Fix the black plastic piece in the FR corner they broke
4. Fix the bend on the right rail they damaged
5. Fix the scratch on the door they caused.
6. Adjust the Sunroof so that it is level - off by at least 5 degrees when tilted.

rockin - Question - does the FELT on the rail fix the rattle when closed?

Service has had the car for 2 full days and I don't know if I'll ever get it back.

The rattle is especially noticeable on sharp bumps like concrete expansion joints.
If you press on the headliner in the centre front, the noise goes away.

Let's see - rattle when open which is only 5% of the time, or rattle 95% of the time?

Which one will you choose?

Their current stance is - we tried everything we could, but can't get rid of the rattle so sorry.

Felt - possibly this is the cure-all.

puff
05-15-2007, 10:22 PM
my sunroof/shade has started to rattle this week, it's been silent before, it alslo sounds like theres some flexing going on up there when i m over speed bumps even at a slow speeds!

DarkBrew
05-15-2007, 10:35 PM
Mine is still good but it is sitting low in the opening when closed so I guess it needs an adjustment.

Stavesacre21
05-15-2007, 11:46 PM
I'm in the process of waiting until it gets unbearable. It's already probably 1/2 way there, and is now starting to rattle when moving, when NOT EVEN running over bumps now. :banghead: with some of the negative input i've gotten about the repair, i've been a lil weary about letting them take the whole thing apart.

Rotator
05-16-2007, 10:05 AM
Stavesacre21 - You have a right to be concerned.

Update on my Issue - Brought the sunroof in because the rattle was unbearable when open:

Visit # 3 - 3 days of service did not fix the sunroof alignment issue. By day 3 I had not received a call from the dealer on the status, so I decided to pop in. I was told the car was just ready and they were going to call (sure). What was the result? They didn't fix the alignment issue like I had asked. They did manage to fix the scratch they caused from the last visit albeit not very well as there are clear circular burn marks in the paint from the buffer - I guess they used a standard grinder to polish it??

I spoke with the tech and showed him the issue - response "Ohhh..."

Brought the car in for another day to be fixed.

Another day of service - and I am happy to report - FIXED!!!

TSB claimes 2.7 hrs - how about 4 dealer visits totaling 19 days?
Visit #1 - 10 days
Visit #2 - 5 days
Visit #3 - 3 days
Visit #4 - 1 day

Every dealer visit was pre-scheduled. The knew exactly the work that was required.

I could not live with the rattle any longer - but I didn't expect the dealer to keep my car for 19 days.

Now I have to address the rattles in:
Passenger Door Trim
Front Centre Console
Front Centre speaker rattle
Rear Passenger trim rattle.

Mazda ain't no Lexus.

Stavesacre21
05-22-2007, 03:12 AM
grr...still getting worse...coming close to caving....

reaper1
05-22-2007, 06:38 AM
I'm going in this Friday for the oil change , so I will bring this matter up . Cause mines sound like shit. I 'll update .

Imidazole
05-23-2007, 10:51 AM
Anyone got a fix to this? Mine too.

Stavesacre21
05-27-2007, 12:10 AM
If you follow the thread, you'll see that the last page has been about the TSB that's out to fix it. The question isn't can it be fixed, it's simply if it's worth taking in and letting a dealership grease-monkey take your roofline apart, and possibly do more bad then good.

Stavesacre21
07-02-2007, 07:19 PM
appointments tomorrow morning. Taking pictures tonight before I run it in. Here goes nothing.

Stavesacre21
07-03-2007, 06:03 PM
Just got her home.

I must say that after all the negative feedback i've heard, i was very suprised to find nothing wrong, even after going over it all meticulously. No loud clanks, no scratches, no grease on the headliner. Nothing out of the ordinary.

However, to be fair, the sunroof makes a SLIGHTLY different sound when intially opening, and then right before closing. Best described as a very soft click.

However, more important then anything, NO MORE RATTLING! Anyone close to Lima Ohio whose looking to have this done, it's worth the drive...tech did a flawless job. Dropped the car off at 8AM and got the call to come get it at 4PM.

Just so everyone has a visual, the difference between the old and new rails is VERY slight...as a matter of fact, the only difference I could tell on the before and after pics was the round shape of the cam/pin.

For those wondering if you have the new cam/pins, the old one was a complete circle (as shown below), the new one is a circular shape with 2 flat tangets on each side. See for yourself!

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h319/stavesacre21/beforeandafter.jpg

early 30's crisis
07-13-2007, 10:34 PM
Hmmm.... I noticed mine starting to rattle last week, it was 'skipping' when I opened it, figured it needed some grease. Today at a red light when the fan kicked in, I could hear the glass clicking against whatever.. the roof?
I just went to look, and the right side (if I'm sitting in it right side) isnt even in the rail! I tried to move it back in but it wont budge... not that I tried hard, I dont want to break it. I wonder why it would just pop out? Lots of grease in there, track looks okay, I havent been on any rough roads or hit any huge holes or anything..

LOL had sunroofs in all my cars, this is the first time I've ever had any issue...

New Yorker
07-19-2007, 10:14 AM
Mine rattles, but only when it's "tilted" open. When it's "slid" open, partially or all the way, there's no rattle.

Anyone know if the TSB addresses that? 'Cause I can have it done at my next oil change, next week.

Stavesacre21
07-20-2007, 04:31 AM
As far as I know new york, it's a one-stop-fixes-all kinda deal. As far as I could tell, any and all the problems that people seem to have been having with the sunroofs have ceased once they got the TSB done.

HOWEVER, some people have had problems with other things rattling due to shotty work from the dealer.

As long as you can gather up enough confidence to let the dealer rip your headliner out, it's a win-win in the end.

I did however, find out that he forgot to put the 3 pins in the back of the headliner 2 days ago. Not a big deal, and if that's all that goes wrong, i'm a happy camper :)

Again I digress...check the above pics. If you DONT have the new cam, go get um!

New Yorker
07-20-2007, 10:22 AM
Thanks, Stavesacre. My service dept is one of the few good ones—and I'll gently tell the guy about mishaps others have had (glass replaced backwards, motor mount screws turned too far, and now, pins in back of headliner). Maybe they'll be careful. :scared:

New Yorker
07-24-2007, 05:42 PM
Just got the sunroof TSB done.

Squeak is gone. A little bit of grime on the headliner, but I cleaned it off pretty easily with some upholstery wipes. Now there's the tiniest little nick (the size of a pin point) on one of the long 'piano black' trim pieces that runs along the center console (the piece that's silver on most 8's), but only someone as anal as me would notice it. So overall, pretty good job.

Stavesacre21
07-25-2007, 01:09 AM
If your anything like me, those very very "minor" details were well worth the sacrifice for that sunroof to stop making noise.

I mean, I knew it was gonna be more quiet, but I didn't realize how much the rattling was annoying me until it was gone. Everything sounds so much more...smooth now. It's kinda hard to believe!

Detrich
08-24-2007, 12:59 PM
ok... i noticed some sounds weird sounds coming from my roof as well lately...

specifically, it's a loud ticking sound- ie sorta like the sound an old telegraph machine makes that you see in the movies when they were sending telegraphs- but a lot louder. i guess u could call it a rattle, but it's more of a crackling sound i suppose...

is this the type of problem that you guys experienced?

thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. i will print out the TSB and have it looked at with my 7K mile oil change service in a few weeks and report back.

lycanthrope
10-30-2009, 12:09 AM
so my moon roof was rattling and i took it into the dealer to get it fixed. first they said they had never heard of this problem and then after they drove it around for a while they told me it was normal. to top the whole thing off they charged me 50 bucks to look at it even though it would have been free (warranty) if something had been wrong. just needed to vent about that. i guess i should be angry at myself for being such a push over and not saying something to them about it.

Stavesacre21
10-30-2009, 05:48 AM
Lazarus.......come forth!!!!

Over 2 years ago?? Really??



Reguardless....print this (http://www.finishlineperformance.com/pdf/rx8/bulletin/09-029-06-1651.pdf) out and take it with you.

Then demand your money back or threaten to never visit their dealership again.

Then reguardless of what they do, never visit that dealership again.

Ever.

lycanthrope
10-31-2009, 03:23 AM
Its the thread that wont stay dead! hey at least im searching instead of just starting a new thread and asking about something that has already been covered right? anyway...yea i should take that in and demand my cash back unfortunately im a huge pansy and i hate confrontation. i think the most irritating thing is that this dealer has always been really good in the past. this is my first problem with them. oh the frustration!