Whoever posted on the friggin box, "when one light goes out, the rest stay lit," SERIOUSLY needs to be shot right now!

That's all... carry on. :banghead:

i take it they all went out?

You would be assuming correctly.... :sad:

buy the ones that arent linked in a parallel series

ah. take it back

Now I know how Chevy Chase felt in "Christmas Vacation"... Grrrr... Can we say, "this sucks?" (!!!)

It's a pain in the ass but return them and get a refund. Stupid holiday decorator people.

Time to choke a bish with Christmas lights.

That sucks...I've been pretty lucky so far and nothing like that has happend...yet.

When it does...I'll explode.

It's going to be hard to return those lights way back in the 70's.

this is why i just dont do anything for christmas, except get a tree, and gifts. then again, i dont believe in jesus, or god. but that is another thing.

this is why i just dont do anything for christmas, except get a tree, and gifts. then again, i dont believe in jesus, or god. but that is another thing.

why would you celebrate CHRISTmas if you dont believe in god or christ? just wondering. being the celebration/holiday is to mark the birth of christ. not the day of presents. This is what has happened to christmas over the past decade-decade and a half. Its very commercial and focused on the presents/gifts. It has really taken away the true meaning of what the holiday is for. Sure, celebrate it as a time to be with friends and family but do not recognize it as christmas.

/end my CHRISTmasS rant.

this is why i just dont do anything for christmas, except get a tree, and gifts. then again, i dont believe in jesus, or god. but that is another thing.

While i am not one to get on anyones beliefs, or push mine onto anyone else, i have to correct you:

Jesus was an actual person, i think you meant to say you don't believe in what was claimed by others that Jesus did.


And Jenn, the first bulb in the string is the one bad. The rest will not light if that one is out. Find the end (or beginning) of the outted lights and change those two. the string will come back lit. Had this problem last year with the outside lights (which i told you about then).

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why would you celebrate CHRISTmas if you dont believe in god or christ? just wondering. being the celebration/holiday is to mark the birth of christ. not the day of presents. This is what has happened to christmas over the past decade-decade and a half. Its very commercial and focused on the presents/gifts. It has really taken away the true meaning of what the holiday is for. Sure, celebrate it as a time to be with friends and family but do not recognize it as christmas.

/end my CHRISTmasS rant.

as i may not believe in god, or as apostle said, what jesus did, i still celebrate christmas, because i love how it makes people feel. there is love, caring, and apathy in the air, and i dont want to ruin that just because of my beliefs.i want to share it, and spread it, because people need that in their lives, especially with the way things are going now with oil prices, the economy, and everything else. the sense of family, the smell of the food, and the caring of others is something to embrace you can debate and flame me all you want, but nothing you say will change my belief. but i dont want to hijack this thread anymore than we already have, so as the beatles said, let it be

as i may not believe in god, or as apostle said, what jesus did, i still celebrate christmas, because i love how it makes people feel. there is love, caring, and apathy in the air, and i dont want to ruin that just because of my beliefs.i want to share it, and spread it, because people need that in their lives, especially with the way things are going now with oil prices, the economy, and everything else. the sense of family, the smell of the food, and the caring of others is something to embrace you can debate and flame me all you want, but nothing you say will change my belief. but i dont want to hijack this thread anymore than we already have, so as the beatles said, let it be

dont want to try and change your beliefs. only pointing out how the commercialization of christmas has really ruined the true meaning. freewill [given by god or whatever you believe in] was given to us for a reason. I dont bible thump others nor push my beliefs.. just a pet peeve of mine as to what has happened to a holiday once celebrated for different reasons than how it is celebrated today. It is also a shame that we have to use excuses to gather for family events and/or use the holiday season to be cheery and then bah-humbug the rest of the year. it should be a way of living 24/7/365/366 leap year.

dont want to try and change your beliefs. only pointing out how the commercialization of christmas has really ruined the true meaning. freewill [given by god or whatever you believe in] was given to us for a reason. I dont bible thump others nor push my beliefs.. just a pet peeve of mine as to what has happened to a holiday once celebrated for different reasons than how it is celebrated today. It is also a shame that we have to use excuses to gather for family events and/or use the holiday season to be cheery and then bah-humbug the rest of the year. it should be a way of living 24/7/365/366 leap year.

very true statement. i agree with you 100% family isnt something we should take for granted, but we still do.

why would you celebrate CHRISTmas if you dont believe in god or christ? just wondering. being the celebration/holiday is to mark the birth of christ. not the day of presents. This is what has happened to christmas over the past decade-decade and a half. Its very commercial and focused on the presents/gifts. It has really taken away the true meaning of what the holiday is for. Sure, celebrate it as a time to be with friends and family but do not recognize it as christmas.

/end my CHRISTmasS rant.

Puts up a tree, gets drunk, barks up it, passes out.

Christmas perfect! :lol:

Puts up a tree, gets drunk, barks up it, passes out, wakes up to tree on floor due to cat climbing it.

Christmas perfect! :lol:

LOL!! :lol:

why would you celebrate CHRISTmas if you dont believe in god or christ? just wondering. being the celebration/holiday is to mark the birth of christ. not the day of presents. This is what has happened to christmas over the past decade-decade and a half. Its very commercial and focused on the presents/gifts. It has really taken away the true meaning of what the holiday is for. Sure, celebrate it as a time to be with friends and family but do not recognize it as christmas.

/end my CHRISTmasS rant.

haha I had a girl in university that was atheist and she would argue with me about certain beliefs. So I asked her why she's being a hypocrite when she'll celebrate Christmas but isnt Christian :lol2:

another good one was about abortion. She was pro choice and asked me "do you eat eggs?" I said yes and she's like well you're killing an unborn chicken. Then I had to tell her that chicken or egg, I'm still gonna eat the sucker. Whether I wait for it to be hatched or not, that thing's going in my belly!! :rofl:

another good one was about abortion. She was pro choice and asked me "do you eat eggs?" I said yes and she's like well you're killing an unborn chicken. Then I had to tell her that chicken or egg, I'm still gonna eat the sucker. Whether I wait for it to be hatched or not, that thing's going in my belly!! :rofl:

now thats funny:lol:

I'm agnostic and celebrate on Christmas however, I do not celebrate Christmas itself. I celebrate the holiday because that's what all my family and friends celebrate and to me, that's what's important. I avoid the religious aspect of the holiday.

Do I give presents? Yes. Do I give the presents as a representation of Jesus receiving presents on the day of his birth? No. I give the presents to show my appreciation for everything my friends have done for me for the past year.

Do I decorate? Yup! It's fun and makes the house/dorm look pretty. Do I put up a Christmas tree? Well, I personally don't, but my family does so of course I take part in decorating it.

Do I make Christmas cookies? Yup! It's a good stress relief and my sister enjoys helping me.

I'd be just as happy celebrating during Hanukkah or Kwanzaa if that's when my family and friends wanted to celebrate. Heck, I'd celebrate in June if they wanted.

So do I find it hypocritical that I'm celebrating ON Christmas? No, but to celebrate the actual holiday if one is Agnostic/Atheist... I won't say hypocritical but I find it odd.

I'm agnostic and celebrate on Christmas however, I do not celebrate Christmas itself. I celebrate the holiday because that's what all my family and friends celebrate and to me, that's what's important. I avoid the religious aspect of the holiday.

Do I give presents? Yes. Do I give the presents as a representation of Jesus receiving presents on the day of his birth? No. I give the presents to show my appreciation for everything my friends have done for me for the past year.

Do I decorate? Yup! It's fun and makes the house/dorm look pretty. Do I put up a Christmas tree? Well, I personally don't, but my family does so of course I take part in decorating it.

Do I make Christmas cookies? Yup! It's a good stress relief and my sister enjoys helping me.

I'd be just as happy celebrating during Hanukkah or Kwanzaa if that's when my family and friends wanted to celebrate. Heck, I'd celebrate in June if they wanted.

So do I find it hypocritical that I'm celebrating ON Christmas? No, but to celebrate the actual holiday if one is Agnostic/Atheist... I won't say hypocritical but I find it odd.

this is what I was trying to say by my posting. celebrate the being with family and friends and sharing the day. but as for christmas, dont recognize the holiday itself. dont think my post came across properly, and I think this one doesnt either. hope some understand what im saying/trying to say.

haha I had a girl in university that was atheist and she would argue with me about certain beliefs. So I asked her why she's being a hypocrite when she'll celebrate Christmas but isnt Christian :lol2:

another good one was about abortion. She was pro choice and asked me "do you eat eggs?" I said yes and she's like well you're killing an unborn chicken. Then I had to tell her that chicken or egg, I'm still gonna eat the sucker. Whether I wait for it to be hatched or not, that thing's going in my belly!! :rofl:

haha

I'm agnostic and celebrate on Christmas however, I do not celebrate Christmas itself. I celebrate the holiday because that's what all my family and friends celebrate and to me, that's what's important. I avoid the religious aspect of the holiday.

Do I give presents? Yes. Do I give the presents as a representation of Jesus receiving presents on the day of his birth? No. I give the presents to show my appreciation for everything my friends have done for me for the past year.

Do I decorate? Yup! It's fun and makes the house/dorm look pretty. Do I put up a Christmas tree? Well, I personally don't, but my family does so of course I take part in decorating it.

Do I make Christmas cookies? Yup! It's a good stress relief and my sister enjoys helping me.

I'd be just as happy celebrating during Hanukkah or Kwanzaa if that's when my family and friends wanted to celebrate. Heck, I'd celebrate in June if they wanted.

So do I find it hypocritical that I'm celebrating ON Christmas? No, but to celebrate the actual holiday if one is Agnostic/Atheist... I won't say hypocritical but I find it odd.

Yea I was just messing with that girl...she was just questioning everything about Christianity so I decided to push some of her buttons. I find that it's the intention of Christmas that's really important.

I actually refuse to buy gifts for people because it's Christmas. I'm not down with the commercialization of it. I'd rather do a Kris Kringle type thing so that you just get one gift (I think that's good enough). I'd rather just spend time with people than give them some generic gift I bought at the store.

Yea I was just messing with that girl...she was just questioning everything about Christianity so I decided to push some of her buttons. I find that it's the intention of Christmas that's really important.

I actually refuse to buy gifts for people because it's Christmas. I'm not down with the commercialization of it. I'd rather do a Kris Kringle type thing so that you just get one gift (I think that's good enough). I'd rather just spend time with people than give them some generic gift I bought at the store.

thats why i only buy a few gifts for intermediate family members and make something for the rest (like baked goods, and such). time and heart behind it. said it before and will say it again, commercialization has RUINED christmas. kids should not be getting $600 console systems for presents no matter how rich you are.

thats why i only buy a few gifts for intermediate family members and make something for the rest (like baked goods, and such). time and heart behind it. said it before and will say it again, commercialization has RUINED christmas. kids should not be getting $600 console systems for presents no matter how rich you are.

Plus it doesn't really mean as much when you're expected to give something. It's better just to give spontaneously and not just one day out of the entire year.

Plus it doesn't really mean as much when you're expected to give something. It's better just to give spontaneously and not just one day out of the entire year.

Be I En Gee Oh! nail on the head.

another good one was about abortion. She was pro choice and asked me "do you eat eggs?" I said yes and she's like well you're killing an unborn chicken. Then I had to tell her that chicken or egg, I'm still gonna eat the sucker. Whether I wait for it to be hatched or not, that thing's going in my belly!! :rofl:

I believe that most commercially-produced eggs found in the supermarket these days are not fertilized. Her abortion argument fails unless you're definitely eating fertilized eggs.

I believe that most commercially-produced eggs found in the supermarket these days are not fertilized. Her abortion argument fails unless you're definitely eating fertilized eggs.

yea I eat balut eggs...mmmm tasty! When they had those on fear factor, I was like "why arent they sprinkling salt on it??"

thats why i only buy a few gifts for intermediate family members and make something for the rest (like baked goods, and such). time and heart behind it.

I do the same thing! When it comes Christmas time around my house, the kitchen is all mine. My parents know not to even bother because I bake so many cookies for people.

I do the same thing! When it comes Christmas time around my house, the kitchen is all mine. My parents know not to even bother because I bake so many cookies for people.

#1 holiday goodie = Peanut Butter Balls!!!

http://www.penzeysone.com/media/buckeyes.jpg

Well, agnostic/atheists, when a gift is given to you and it says Merry Xmas, or someone hands you a gift and they say Merry Xmas, do you refuse the gift?


Atheism/Agnostic is all fine and dandy, but how strong are your beliefs when greed is involved? something to think about

#1 holiday goodie = Peanut Butter Balls!!!

http://www.penzeysone.com/media/buckeyes.jpg

I would rather shave the back of my legs with a cheese grater than eat one of those. They look like they should be flushed, not eaten. :puke:

But then, I don't like peanut butter...

Well, agnostic/atheists, when a gift is given to you and it says Merry Xmas, or someone hands you a gift and they say Merry Xmas, do you refuse the gift?


Atheism/Agnostic is all fine and dandy, but how strong are your beliefs when greed is involved? something to think about

just because the gift says merry christmas on it, doesnt mean its from jesus. it is from my family member, who cares about me, so they got me a gift. it has nothing to do with religion

btw, those peanut butter things look delicious

just because the gift says merry christmas on it, doesnt mean its from jesus. it is from my family member, who cares about me, so they got me a gift. it has nothing to do with religion

btw, those peanut butter things look delicious

they are crack, im telling you.. cant have just one.

im drooling just looking at the picture, you might have to send me some of those. im not kidding

Christmas is the celabration of Christ's birth. By accepting a gift that celabrates Christ's birth, are you not conceding the fact that he was born?

And we all know that Jesus's last name was not Christ, but Christ means the savoir... (or something like that) so accepting any gifts on Xmas admits to the fact that Jesus was in fact the savoir. :)

when i accept a gift, its not like i say praise jesus, or thank god for this gift. NO, i thank the person who gave it to me. or, i thank Santa :lol2:

im drooling just looking at the picture, you might have to send me some of those. im not kidding

definitely consider it.. as long as I dont consume them all before the chocolate even sets.

you damn well better not!!!!

Since this thread has already gone beyond the forum rules as far as religious topics, I will gladly join. I hate to break it to you bible-thumpers out there, but the Christmas celebration was created by the early Church in order to entice pagan Romans to convert to Christianity without losing their own winter celebrations. Winter festivals, Yule, Saturnalia, etc existed long before Christianity. So go take down your "pagan" Christmas tree... or do you really think pine trees grew in Jerusalem? Yep, the "Christmas" tree derived in the early 1800's from pagan tradition and ritual surrounding the Winter Solstice, which included the use of evergreen boughs and an adaptation of pagan tree worship.

BTW, I love giving "Christmas" presents to friends and family.

As commercialized Christmas is, it pretty much lost all spiritual meaning to me years ago.

nt nt.

Edit: With that said, did anyone see Shrek the Halls?! EL OH EL!

Hah. Didn't realize that my frustration over the inability for lights to actually STAY lit would spark the beginning of a religious debate. Well, let me tell you what I believe in......

I believe in being around family, friends, and those you care about--especially during the holiday season...

I believe in the magic of Christmas, and what it represents to individuals (despite varying beliefs or non-beliefs)....

I believe that sometimes, just sometimes, it actually IS better to give than to receive....

AND I believe in those peanut butter ball thingies!...... :rock:

Hah. Didn't realize that my frustration over the inability for lights to actually STAY lit would spark the beginning of a religious debate. Well, let me tell you what I believe in......

I believe in being around family, friends, and those you care about--especially during the holiday season...

I believe in the magic of Christmas, and what it represents to individuals (despite varying beliefs or non-beliefs)....

I believe that sometimes, just sometimes, it actually IS better to give than to receive....

AND I believe in those peanut butter ball thingies!...... :rock:

HELLZ YEA!

Well, agnostic/atheists, when a gift is given to you and it says Merry Xmas, or someone hands you a gift and they say Merry Xmas, do you refuse the gift?


Atheism/Agnostic is all fine and dandy, but how strong are your beliefs when greed is involved? something to think about

First of all, I'm not the one who would write "merry x-mas" on a gift. If they want to write it on my present because they celebrate it, that's fine. I'm not going to stop them from writing what they want, just like they aren't going to make me write something that I don't want to. Wouldn't that be a bit hypocritical?

... and how is an EXCHANGE of presents "greedy". I'd be just as happy exchanging presents on the 4th of July, or March 13th or any other day. Everyone does it on Christmas so that's when I do it too. As I said before, I'm not exchanging presents to symbolize the act of the massiahs giving Jesus a present on the day of his birth. I exchange the presents as an act of appreciation to the people closest to me.






P.S. I also enjoy the peanut butter balls.

Didnt Christians take a pagan holiday and turn it into Christmas? Im not saying I dont believe in God but I do believe that it was truly a pagan holiday that was twisted and made into something else. May people are raised with different religious beliefs yet still celebrate Christmas as a time for seasons change, family and sharing. I was never raised to view it as a christian holiday and I dont think there is anything wrong with that. My sister is athiest yet she loves Christmas. As long as you are enjoying yourself, your family and life then you will have a merry christmas!

when you say christmas somewhere besides a church, is the first thing that comes to their mind the birth of jesus? no. they think evergreen trees, gifts, food, red, white and green, and love

As long as you are enjoying yourself, your family and life then you will have a merry christmas!

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