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Learjet_Pilot 11-26-2007, 11:56 AM Hey Gang, I'm new here. I'm buying an 8 in the next few months. Thanks to many of your comments, and its good looks, all other competition has been eliminated. I do have one sticking point, though.
In sitting in the car, it seems that the headrest, and the doorpost make it hard to give that quick glance over the left shoulder to make sure no one is in the left lane next to you before a lane switch.
In test driving the car, it seems that the solution might be to just give it a blast of power and move. That may not always be possible. I'd appreciate anyone's comments/techniques/experience on dealing with blind spots in this car.
I had to adjust the side mirrors to cover the blind spots. My seating is right where the post is.
reaper1 11-26-2007, 12:17 PM Like any other car , once you adjust your side mirror you should be fine .
Plus , you;ll get used to it .
jones75254 11-26-2007, 12:20 PM Ur gonna have to double check with a slight turn of your head to be sure. IMO the blind spot in the 8 is pretty big, due to your position in the car and the small rear view mirror. Early on i had a couple close calls relying on the mirror alone. I now automatically double check w/ a quick look prior to changing lanes....and yes i normally will give the car a lil extra rev just to be sure i clear the merge:)
StewC625 11-26-2007, 12:20 PM Hey Gang, I'm new here. I'm buying an 8 in the next few months. Thanks to many of your comments, and its good looks, all other competition has been eliminated. I do have one sticking point, though.
In sitting in the car, it seems that the headrest, and the doorpost make it hard to give that quick glance over the left shoulder to make sure no one is in the left lane next to you before a lane switch.
In test driving the car, it seems that the solution might be to just give it a blast of power and move. That may not always be possible. I'd appreciate anyone's comments/techniques/experience on dealing with blind spots in this car.
The view backwards in this car - to any angle, sucks.
My answer is to keep my rearview mirrors adjusted properly. The outside mirrors are adjusted to view the entire lane next to me - if you're on the highway, you do not see your own car at all in the mirror - just that lane. The inside rear view makes up the difference - if they are adjusted right, with very little movement of your head, you can see 180 degrees around the back of the car with no blind spots at all.
BTW, this "trick" works on all cars, and is something taught in high performance driving schools like Bondurant. Most "driver's ed" courses teach you to set the outside mirrors so you see your own car in 1/4 of the mirror - but this leaves a blind spot directly to the side of the car. You can entirely eliminate the blind spot with the right mirror adjustment.
Tim Tim Tim 11-26-2007, 01:39 PM I have the same issue, adjustimg mirros does fix. I usually dont adjust because my fiance drives the car daily and it gets annoying adjust mirrors every time you get in. I just turn my head and look.
pussywillow1972 11-26-2007, 02:04 PM What I've done is lean my head until it just touches the window and adjust the side view mirror until I just barely see the rear of the car. After doing this, when in the normal driving position, any cars in the left lane are visible in the side mirror right up to the point where they become visible in my peripheral vision. As soon as they are out of view in the side mirror, I can see them by simply glancing left.
ken-x8 11-26-2007, 02:05 PM The key is situation awareness. Don't sit there in a fog, wondering what's around you only when you decide to change lanes. Keep your eyes moving, like they taught you in Driver's Ed. Always be aware of what's in the next lane.
The ability accelerate into a hole ahead of you, rather than drop into one forming behind you, is certainly a plus.
Ken
CosmosMpower 11-26-2007, 02:06 PM Look over your right shoulder for lane changes...problem solved.
Uncivilizedracer 11-26-2007, 02:12 PM Check and double check, i always adjust the mirrors anything else my heads out the window
bruce_van 11-26-2007, 03:39 PM Just get a blind spot mirror. I've had them in every car that I've owned and would not drive any of my cars without them. No need to look over your shoulders and you can see 2 lanes with them.
This is simply the best $4 mod anyone can do. Not pretty but a life saver.
http://www.care4car.com/productimages/4545blind%20spot%20mirror.jpg
abbid 11-26-2007, 03:41 PM Just do what i do, always downshift and WOT before changing lanes, this way you can ensure no one is in your blind spot.
Learjet_Pilot 11-26-2007, 04:23 PM So other than mirror tricks, I'm reading that most of you have found a way to actually look in the next lane, despite the small window of opportunity. (Pun possibly intended.)
Jethro Tull 11-26-2007, 04:35 PM When I took Driver's Ed (summer of '74), actually turning your head to check blind spots was a requirement. Been a habit ever since. Saved several motorcyclists lives, over the years.
The Drunk IT Guy 11-26-2007, 04:42 PM Yea I don't change lanes without actually looking.. I've got mine set like Stew was describing. You don't see your car in the mirrors, and when another car moves out of your mirrors view then they're right where you can see them with a quick glance.. It's dam near failsafe, but it does take some getting used too.. I felt so blind when I first started driving it, but now I feel as confident as I did with my truck....
Decat 11-26-2007, 04:57 PM I have been driving my Isuzu Vehicross for the last 3 years or so and it has terrible rear visibility but I lived with it and I always double check with a little look over my shoulder, but as for the RX-8 I personally think it has great rear visibility. Since I am 6'4" I have the seat so far back that I actually end up looking out of the small window above the rear seat and it works out perfectly. On the passenger side I cannot get the side view mirror out far enough. It is pointed out as far as it will go and I would still like it to angle out a little more, but I guess that is what I get for sitting back so far and tilting the seat back. Oh and I also tilt the passenger seat back so I can see out of the little back window when making lane changes here in Houston, helps a ton.
ashwins 11-26-2007, 06:09 PM Yeah, In Mazda RX-8 you have a bigger blindspot problem than regular cars. Looks like bruce van has a solution
Footman 11-26-2007, 06:15 PM QTWRE taught me the same thing at the club meet in Toronto. I brought up the issue with the blindspot. I've only owned the car for 2 months; but ever since I adjusted my side mirrors such that I can no longer see any edge of my car, I've been good. I do that in addition to looking over the shoulder and I've been safe.
I use a 400 mm broadway mirror (convex) (http://www.autogiga.com/mirror.htm)
Myardor 11-26-2007, 08:50 PM +5 for the above posts.
Remembering that the SIDE mirrors are for side viewing and not for rear viewing. The inside rear view mirror is for that.
Adjust the side mirrors as stated in above posts and you will be ok.
Yes, the rear view is a bit hard to see, esp if one has tinted back window. It takes the eyes a few seconds to adjust. Just enough time to hit something, esp if one is backing up.
Take some time getting used to seeing out and you will get used to it.
mysql101 11-26-2007, 08:59 PM yep. Anyone who says there are blind spots, does not know how to properly adjust the side view mirrors. If there is a car immediately behind you, you should not see them in your side view mirrors. You should not see their headlights, you should not see any part of your car in the side view mirrors either.
The half dome shaped mirrors that stick on the side view mirrors also help.
I didn't have my mirrors adjusted properly when I first bought my rx8 and I switched lanes almost hitting another car.
Something else to mention, the rear view mirror has 2 ball joints, from the factory the mirror is adjusted really low, blocking forward view in the front window. You should push it up and out of the way.
Astral 11-26-2007, 09:57 PM yep. Anyone who says there are blind spots, does not know how to properly adjust the side view mirrors. If there is a car immediately behind you, you should not see them in your side view mirrors. You should not see their headlights, you should not see any part of your car in the side view mirrors either.
+1
I have no blind spots in my RX-8. I adjust my mirrors to be maximum left and maximum right (I wish I had more to go outside on the right).
You want to adjust your side view mirrors to begin where the rear view mirror ends.
costello 11-27-2007, 11:01 AM This website has a good diagram. Some cars are better than others, but this is the technique everyone is talking about.
http://www.smartmotorist.com/mir/mir.htm
New Yorker 11-27-2007, 11:27 AM Two thoughts…
First, as many others here have said, make sure you adjust the side mirrors the "new way," so that you cannot see the sides of your car. Many motorists still adjust them the "old way" because that's what they were taught way back when and they don't know better.
Second, I've found that when I do the "quick look" over my left shoulder, I can see the blind spot in the lane next to me thru the small rear passenger window. (Of course, I'm 5'7" and you may not be able to do this.) Good luck.
Like Whoa 11-27-2007, 11:47 AM yea look thro the small rear passenger window also, i do this because i adjust my mirror to see the bottom of my tire/rim as i do a lot of parrallel parking and parking on the street so i dont curb my rims/tires although they're already curbed to hell =/
raizen82 11-27-2007, 12:53 PM wow, good advice on the mirror adjustments! didn't know about the "new" adjustment thing. i still leave a tiny bit of space to see my sides. so i should not see the side of my car at all? they should teach this at driver's ed schools... too many careless teen drivers in my area...
Astral 11-27-2007, 01:06 PM wow, good advice on the mirror adjustments! didn't know about the "new" adjustment thing. i still leave a tiny bit of space to see my sides. so i should not see the side of my car at all? they should teach this at driver's ed schools... too many careless teen drivers in my area...You should not see the side of your car at all. I'm telling you, try maxed out left and right on the 8.
Adjust it this way: sit in the driver's seat. Tilt your head all the way left (comfortably) and adjust to barely see the side of the car there. Then tilt your head all the way right and do the same. This way, if you DO need to see the side of your car in the side view mirror (e.g. parallel parking), all you have to do is move left or right.
Revvittupp 11-27-2007, 01:09 PM Mostly, I only change lanes when I KNOW there isn't a car next to me. I'm usually one of the faster moving cars on the road, and I look in my interior rear VIew A LOT. I know if someone is coing from behind me, and I attack through the cars in front of me. I do still have my mirrors set correctly, and occasionally from habit still check over my shoulder, remember it's fruitless and go anyways.
What i have found thoguh is that lately other cars have been missing me in their blindspots, or jsu tnot looking as I tend to find myself having to maneuver quickly to avoid cars in my lane.
Footman 11-27-2007, 01:29 PM yep. Anyone who says there are blind spots, does not know how to properly adjust the side view mirrors. If there is a car immediately behind you, you should not see them in your side view mirrors. You should not see their headlights, you should not see any part of your car in the side view mirrors either.
The half dome shaped mirrors that stick on the side view mirrors also help.
I didn't have my mirrors adjusted properly when I first bought my rx8 and I switched lanes almost hitting another car.
Something else to mention, the rear view mirror has 2 ball joints, from the factory the mirror is adjusted really low, blocking forward view in the front window. You should push it up and out of the way.
WHAT?? I never knew that!! I've only owned the car for 2 months... it has 2 ball joints? so I can push the mirror higher????
New Yorker 11-27-2007, 01:30 PM wow, good advice on the mirror adjustments! didn't know about the "new" adjustment thing. i still leave a tiny bit of space to see my sides. so i should not see the side of my car at all? they should teach this at driver's ed schools... too many careless teen drivers in my area...It really works! But remember to allow a little while to get used to it. At first it'll seem odd and you may not even like it. But… once you start to realize you're now seeing into what were previously your blind spots, you'll never go back!
rx8phase1 11-27-2007, 01:36 PM i had to drive a whole month without a side mirror seriously u dont realize u need it so much until it's gone lol.and for the blind spots i usually look through the small rear window
staticlag 11-27-2007, 01:39 PM The easiest way is just to get a dome mirror add on and stick it to the outside of your mirror, bingo no blindspots.
I like adjusting my mirrors just so that I can barely see the sides of my car just so that I have perspective of where it is I am looking. Then you turn your head and weave right and left. completely changing your perspective on both sides. If its clear then its clear.
Honestly people who think they can make a quick glance really take for granted quick motorcycles and stupid people who dart around.
Its so easy for a motorcycle to go from being a spot in your mirror to right in your blind spot that its not even funny.
Astral 11-27-2007, 02:13 PM The easiest way is just to get a dome mirror add on and stick it to the outside of your mirror, bingo no blindspots.
I like adjusting my mirrors just so that I can barely see the sides of my car just so that I have perspective of where it is I am looking. Then you turn your head and weave right and left. completely changing your perspective on both sides. If its clear then its clear.To have perspective? That's a bad reason. You're just not used to it. I know it messes people up who are used to the old way. For the life of me, I can't change my Dad over. But you should try it anyway: adjust to barely see the sides AFTER tilting your head maximum left and maximum right.
Here's a good test. Get on the highway and have some cars pass you on the left and the right. See where the cars enter your mirrors, and how they exit your side view mirrors and show up in your peripheral side vision. Make sure the cars don't disappear. With the new adjustment way, all cars stay visible (mirrors or side). With the old, I really do have a car-sized spot.
Soravia 11-27-2007, 09:46 PM There are side mirror attachments to fix that issue. Most are round but mine is a wide rectangle with a slope. great on my 240SX which has a big blind spot.
Moving the seat back reduces blind spot. but I always drive with my knees next to the dash.
zoom44 11-28-2007, 09:08 AM well its been covered mostly but i wanted to get this in as well
http://www.motorists.org/other/home/how-to-adjust-your-mirrors/
that link gives you these fine instructions
* For the driver side mirror, roll up the window and press your head against the glass. Adjust the mirror so that you can just see the edge of the car.
* For the passenger side mirror, place your head in the center of the car (directly behind the inside mirror mount) and adjust the outside mirror so that you can just see the edge of the car. This is necessary even with convex (curved) mirrors where the image is distorted a little.
When you're in your normal driving position, you won't be able to see the sides of the car but will be able to see other vehicles in the adjacent lanes.
For those times where there is a vehicle present in the other lane that isn't visible when checking the mirrors, the other vehicle's position will probably be such that its front is adjacent to your door and you'll spot it in your peripheral vision as you check the sideview mirror.
and this originally came up (but of course not the only time- 3 or 4 times a year since) in october of 2002 here http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=1122&highlight=adjust+side+mirrors
where kwolfman said
I suppose my vote is closest to number 2.
About 10 years ago, I came across a suggested way to adjust your sideview mirrors. It took a bit of getting used to, but I find it works great for me. The idea is you want the side view mirrors field of view to slightly overlap the field of view for the center rear view mirror. This means you want a very wide overall view. Heres how:
1) Roll up your driver's window.
2) With your head resting on the window adjust the driver's side view mirror so that you just can see the rear corner of your car.
3) Now, lean way over to the right with your head roughly in the centered (left-right) in the car.
4) Adjust the right hand mirror to just see the right rear corner of the car.
The rear view mirror sees part of what is in both side view mirrors. The overall effect is a very wide field of view to the back and sides. I don't know how many times the mirrors in this configuration have saved me from accidentally changing lanes into someone. The 1st gen RX7 I had, had a bad blind spot on the right side (very wide A pillar...like the RX8). I could easily see cars in the right hand mirror that were in my blind spot.
Try it you'll like it.
its true- proper adjustment of the mirrors gets rid of the blind spot. as cars move from the rear view you can see them in the side and as they move ahead of the side you can see them in the periphery.
and get that rear view up out of the way:)
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