View Full Version : Best guages for the money?


xenon
10-09-2007, 03:48 PM
I ordered an AEM UEGO wideband gauge and now I need a Boost gauge and EGT gauge.

Who makes a good quality Boost and EGT gauge that matches the RX-8 interior? :naughty:

I am not interested in the Defi-Link gauges (too much $$$)

Is there an advantage to use Greddy gauges since I use the e-Manage Utimate?

nycgps
10-09-2007, 03:56 PM
I have Defi Link gauge.

I can just hook all the sensors to the Control Unit II, 1 wire out and thats it (daisy chain)

Jedi54
10-09-2007, 04:00 PM
Autometer makes great guages. Are you looking for mechanical or digital?

xenon
10-09-2007, 04:03 PM
Autometer makes great guages. Are you looking for mechanical or digital?


I keep reading Autometer = crap

I dont have a clue what the difference is between "mechanical .vs electronic"

xenon
10-09-2007, 04:04 PM
I have Defi Link gauge.

I can just hook all the sensors to the Control Unit II, 1 wire out and thats it (daisy chain)

Yeah Defi gauges are sweet but I just cant justify the price.

Jedi54
10-09-2007, 04:12 PM
Mechanical = lines running from engine bay to cabin with a sweeping guage. (here's the autometer Nexus)


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/Jedi54/AutometerNexus.jpg



Here's a Digital guage from Nordskog

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/Jedi54/NordskogDigital.gif

nycgps
10-09-2007, 04:15 PM
Autometers are cheap, I never use them but I saw quite a lot of *horrible* story on them. It could be just unhappy user's post, like our Rx-8.

Defi is more like Mechanical. its pretty easy to install (once you figure it out where your wires should go)

w0rm
10-09-2007, 04:16 PM
arnt there also 'sweeping' digitals as well though?

Red Devil
10-09-2007, 04:16 PM
I've had autometer gauges in the past and found them to be accurate.

Jedi54
10-09-2007, 04:17 PM
yes, there are also full sweep electricals.

Odd that some of you have read bad reviews on the Autometers, I've always heard good things about their products. Also, keep in mind that when Racing Beat decided to make a guage pod for the RX-8, they chose to offer Autometer guages.
I've always known Racing Beat to use high quality materials in their products

xenon
10-09-2007, 04:20 PM
Is there an advantage to use Greddy gauges since I use the e-Manage Utimate?

Jedi54
10-09-2007, 04:20 PM
nope

nycgps
10-09-2007, 04:22 PM
Is there an advantage to use Greddy gauges since I use the e-Manage Utimate?

You're wrong Jedi ! there will be advantage, by going *not* Greddy you will save a few extra bucks. (If Autometer is what you're talking about)

xenon
10-09-2007, 04:24 PM
Well the Autometer Nexus gauges look sweet. :)

Jedi54
10-09-2007, 05:16 PM
^^^ they're very expensive though; don't say I didn't warn you. ;)

shaunv74
10-09-2007, 05:29 PM
I don't know anything about the quality of these gauges but here is another option.

http://www.prosportgauges.com/amber.php

xenon
10-09-2007, 06:19 PM
^^^ they're very expensive though; don't say I didn't warn you. ;)

More expensive than Defi-Link gauges?

jskup1
10-09-2007, 06:22 PM
Yeah, but they are cool.

xenon
10-10-2007, 12:23 AM
Well looks like I will be ordering the Greddy gauges afterall.

Price is right, thats for sure. :)

How is the quality of the Greddy gauges anyways?

nycgps
10-10-2007, 01:48 AM
Unless theres some sort of electrical problem.

Gauges should last you a LONG time.

c0ldf1ame
10-10-2007, 02:51 AM
i had some apex-i EL gauges in my 240, really sweet, but dont get the white background ones unless you want to go blind

http://www.apexi-usa.com/product_electronics_detail.asp?id=205&pageNum=1

Rocketman1976
10-10-2007, 01:08 PM
Autometer definitely isn't crap, they've been making guages forever, for a long time thats all there was! Just some of them still have really old school look and are mainly for 60's cars.

Razz1
10-10-2007, 01:29 PM
I saw the price on the Defi gauges and I thought wow another Harley product.

Charge too much money for a bunch of marketing hype. They work, their great, but lots a monry for BLING.

c41250n
10-10-2007, 03:42 PM
why dont you just get AEM everything?
i have AEM, i think they are pretty cool.
only complain is the boost gauge when its reading vaccum, it doesnt show the negative sign, so when im cruising, sometime i wont know am i boosting 4 lbs or at vaccum 4 lbs

shaunv74
10-10-2007, 03:55 PM
^^That's kinda a big deal isn't it?

c41250n
10-10-2007, 06:43 PM
yea...but i kinda get used to it, and you know will when you're boosting, so you know it wont to vaccum!

xenon
10-11-2007, 12:26 AM
yea...but i kinda get used to it, and you know will when you're boosting, so you know it wont to vaccum!

I don't think AEM makes an EGT gauge.

c41250n
10-11-2007, 05:48 AM
I don't think AEM makes an EGT gauge.

what?? im pretty sure that everybody knows im talking about boost gauge right?

xenon
10-11-2007, 03:07 PM
what?? im pretty sure that everybody knows im talking about boost gauge right?

yes but I am looking to get a boost and EGT gauge.. and you said "why not get all your gagues by AEM"

Jedi54
10-11-2007, 03:14 PM
xenon: where / how are you mounting the guages? (just out of curiosity)

xenon
10-11-2007, 03:21 PM
xenon: where / how are you mounting the guages? (just out of curiosity)

I ordered the Lotek center console gauge pod.

Jedi54
10-11-2007, 03:48 PM
link? pic?

xenon
10-11-2007, 03:55 PM
link? pic?

http://www.gaugepods.com/mazda.html

http://www.gaugepods.com/rx8_dash.jpg

Jedi54
10-11-2007, 03:57 PM
not too shabby. The color / material doesn't seem to match in that picture?
Is it a bad pic or is it just me?

xenon
10-11-2007, 04:35 PM
not too shabby. The color / material doesn't seem to match in that picture?
Is it a bad pic or is it just me?

It's not a perfect match. What do you expect for $45 :)

Jedi54
10-11-2007, 05:08 PM
why not spend $95 and get the RB pod?

xenon
10-11-2007, 05:26 PM
why not spend $95 and get the RB pod?

I never heard of it..

link? pic? :)

Jedi54
10-11-2007, 05:31 PM
here ya go. If you get the guages on your own, the pod is only $95.


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/Jedi54/RacingBeatguage.jpg

Jedi54
10-11-2007, 05:34 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/Jedi54/RacingBeatGuage2.jpg

xenon
10-11-2007, 09:08 PM
That's interesting.

Do they make a 2 gauge pod? I find three gauges a little cramped.

Jedi54
10-11-2007, 09:11 PM
Nope, only 3

xenon
10-11-2007, 09:15 PM
I might have to make something myself then.

It would be sweet to have two gauges hidden behind the ashtray door. :)

olddragger
10-11-2007, 09:20 PM
on any gauge you install--double check to insure they are reading correctly.
olddragger

xenon
10-11-2007, 09:35 PM
on any gauge you install--double check to insure they are reading correctly.
olddragger

Those are some wise words. lol

Razz1
10-12-2007, 11:38 AM
I love those gage pods on the dash.

xenon
10-12-2007, 01:00 PM
I love those gage pods on the dash.

I like the idea but Lotek could have done a much better job. I actually canceled my order after I seen really good pictures of the pod. There is quite a bit of work involved to make it fit right.

Yuk

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=128647

Jedi54
10-12-2007, 01:11 PM
just get the RB pod, throw in one of their adapters (either water temp or oil temp / oil pressure), buy one more guage and you're good to go.

xenon
10-12-2007, 01:19 PM
just get the RB pod, throw in one of their adapters (either water temp or oil temp / oil pressure), buy one more guage and you're good to go.

Nah, I am gonna make my own.

Razz1
10-12-2007, 01:55 PM
Lets see if you get it as good as the Lotek or RB.

Post up some pics.

rotarenvy
10-16-2007, 06:53 AM
mechanical gauges usually have the sensor in the gauge. so you have a tube line running to the cabin with manifold air for boost, oil for oil pressure etc. if they leak then you get the fluid in the cabin.

electrical gauges use sensors at the source and send a signal back to the gauge or control unit. there is no tubes running through the firewall so you can't pinch and block boost lines or have possible leaks.

analog or digital is a separate issue

c41250n
10-16-2007, 03:46 PM
do not get mechanical gauges!!

staticlag
10-19-2007, 12:11 PM
I like the autometer mechanicals, more lightweight and accurate than digitals.

That and they function without electricity so I can still have readings when the car is off.

olddragger
10-19-2007, 10:26 PM
mechanicals have always been more accuate to me.
olddragger

Jedi54
10-19-2007, 11:23 PM
i'd be curious to compare some of the guage readings to a scanalyser

rotarenvy
10-20-2007, 04:04 AM
how do you judge accuracy? how many car gauges would be calibrated? then you can't compare readings from sensors in different locations. in reality the reading is arbitrary to your situation.

staticlag
10-22-2007, 01:06 PM
how do you judge accuracy? how many car gauges would be calibrated? then you can't compare readings from sensors in different locations. in reality the reading is arbitrary to your situation.

Well, I judge accuracy just the way that every other person judges accuracy. That is, I put it in 180 degree water and it reads 180 degrees.

How many car gauges would be calibrated = all of them, but the problem is that digital gauges need to self calibrate each time they turn on, this is because the sensors inside them need to read the ground value of the car battery versus the piece of metal where the sensor is located so that it can set its reference points.

So, your accuracy on digital gauges is directly related to: how well your entire system is grounded, how near to high amperage you run the wires, how well your gauge wires are shielded, how well your spark plug wires are shielded, and how often the system re-calibrates itself, because once the car warms up the resistance values of all the grounding points change.

Whereas, with mechanical gauges, they read what they read, assuming they are functioning within the factory's tolerances reguarding calibration, they will always give you accurate readings, car on car off, good day, bad day, new battery, old battery.

staticlag
10-22-2007, 01:09 PM
how do you judge accuracy? how many car gauges would be calibrated? then you can't compare readings from sensors in different locations. in reality the reading is arbitrary to your situation.

Its true, a lot of people are comparing their car sensors which are properly hooked up to an improperly hooked up aftermarket gauge.

olddragger
10-22-2007, 10:23 PM
trouble is the car has some sensors and then it doesnt have others.
I double check what temperatures i can with a candy thermometer. Oil and water temps secured in a can of water, heat the water and read both, electrical s are hooked to the car(ground and power). mechanicals have always given me a closer reading to the candy thermometer. the electrical s are usually off(lower by 2% or so) so 2% of a 180F fluid is = 3.6 degrees and so forth.
And as with a lot of stuff it is not the one reading you want(except in a crisis situation!) but it is the range and how that particular situation has affected your readings.
olddragger

turborx8
10-23-2007, 04:23 AM
I made my decision.

AEM UEGO Wideband Air/Fuel Gauge and AEM Tru-Boost Controller.

I like the Tru-Boost gauge because it acts as a boost gauge and EBC in one!

turborx8
10-24-2007, 04:56 PM
I got them in today. I am not sure about the AutoMeter mounting cups yet.

http://www.turborx8.ca/pictures/gauges.jpg
http://www.turborx8.ca/pictures/pods.jpg
http://www.turborx8.ca/pictures/gauges1.jpg
http://www.turborx8.ca/pictures/gauges2.jpg

rotarenvy
10-26-2007, 04:28 AM
Well, I judge accuracy just the way that every other person judges accuracy. That is, I put it in 180 degree water and it reads 180 degrees.

How many car gauges would be calibrated = all of them, but the problem is that digital gauges need to self calibrate each time they turn on, this is because the sensors inside them need to read the ground value of the car battery versus the piece of metal where the sensor is located so that it can set its reference points.


while a gauge maybe manufactured based on some "calibration" at the factory is doesn't mean they are all calibrated and the scale adjusted for accurate or precision. for example bathroom scales are calibrated at the factory but one scale can read completely differently to another.