View Full Version : Magnetic Oil Drain Plug


rx8dorifto
10-02-2007, 03:47 AM
any bro here have this magnetic oil drain plug on their 8?

Does it really help?

Who is carrying this plug? Changing my engine oil soon...

StealthTL
10-02-2007, 04:00 AM
I have one, always covered in a "fine fuzz of filings", not sure if it does any good, but I get a nice warm feeling.......

I just bought the size that fits an RX-7, most good car shops stock 'em.

S

TrochoidMagic
10-02-2007, 06:58 AM
spoon sports for honda cars has magnetic drain plugs. i kept them in case... it may have same thread pitch. and a cheap way to get a magnetic drain plug for your tranny is to get one from an automatic trans. diff is another story.

mysql101
10-02-2007, 07:09 AM
you can do one better. buy some earth magnets off ebay, then slap a few on your oil filter.

Emperor
10-02-2007, 08:33 AM
I thought it came stock? Theres plenty of replacement magnectic drian plugs here on the other side of the world; but i figure i didn't need a replacement as it came stock.

rx8dorifto
10-02-2007, 09:47 AM
u sure stock drain plug is magnetic?

I thought it came stock? Theres plenty of replacement magnectic drian plugs here on the other side of the world; but i figure i didn't need a replacement as it came stock.

d j
10-02-2007, 04:15 PM
stock drain plugs doesn't have magnets. kics project and TC sportline makes magnetic drain plugs. kics is a little more expensive but it's jdmtyteyo! :rolleyes::uhh:

csl
10-02-2007, 07:16 PM
I think it is better to get a used speaker magnet and just put it in the oil pan. When you change engine oil, remove the whole oil pan and clean it. Those magnet plug is just too small and have very minor effect.

But before you decide on the magnet deal, I just wanna know, if it is effective on the aluminum housing and the apex seal cutting.

Maybe is better to mod for twin filter :)

lennon
10-02-2007, 08:20 PM
CSL, alternator itself generates electromagnetic field, so does it did anything to your engine?? ;) You worried too much.....

mysql101
10-02-2007, 08:23 PM
I think it is better to get a used speaker magnet and just put it in the oil pan. When you change engine oil, remove the whole oil pan and clean it. Those magnet plug is just too small and have very minor effect.


Uh what? you want to drop the oil pan when changing oil? That's not only time consuming, but unless you reinstall it properly and make a good gasket around it, you're just asking for problems...

Mazurfer
10-02-2007, 08:24 PM
CSL, alternator itself generates electromagnetic field, so does it did anything to your engine?? ;) You worried too much.....

What?

Mazurfer
10-02-2007, 08:25 PM
Uh what? you want to drop the oil pan when changing oil? That's not only time consuming, but unless you reinstall it properly and make a good gasket around it, you're just asking for problems...

+1..............you're gonna drop and clean the pan at every change? Jeez....shouldn't be long before you develop gasket leaking!

lennon
10-02-2007, 09:18 PM
What?

??? :rolleyes:

csl
10-02-2007, 10:24 PM
+1..............you're gonna drop and clean the pan at every change? Jeez....shouldn't be long before you develop gasket leaking!

As far as I know, 4 AT doesn't have drain plug and have to remove the whole pan (told by a mechanic). And remove the pan won't be long if you use the right tools. Perhaps, maybe faster because don't need to wait so long for draining. The mechanic should have power tools and the pan removal just need a right size socket + extension. Regarding the gasket, you can choose either original gasket set or liquid gasket. If you have time, you can buy a big piece of paper gasket and cut by yourselves. Very easy. Just put some oil on the pan contact area, stamp it on the paper, cut it out and use a small metal tube and hammer to punch holes (if you don't have proper tools). It will be more than enough to hold that little pressure. But I'm not sure if you can somehow pump until 20 bar. About the heat, if you worrying, then have to check the oil filter o-ring 1st.

Emperor
10-03-2007, 02:39 AM
Are you talking about the trans oil pan or engine oil pan. Doesn't have a drain plug? I guess for the past 40k my mechanic have been sucking the oil out of the dipstick as i am preety sure they did not drop the oil pan.

Better pay my mechanic more for the effort.

rx8dorifto
10-03-2007, 02:40 AM
anyway, i've just got the magnetic drain plug from Autobacs for $16. Now looking for Aluminium oil pan and 2nd oil cooler :)

sqflyer
10-03-2007, 02:41 AM
As far as I know, 4 AT doesn't have drain plug and have to remove the whole pan (told by a mechanic).Ermm.. I don't drive a 4AT but I don't think there is a car out there that doesn't have a drain plug on the oil pan. Maybe your mechanic is trying to "drain" your money by claiming extra work.. time to change mechanic/workshop.

lennon
10-03-2007, 03:51 AM
As far as I know, 4 AT doesn't have drain plug and have to remove the whole pan (told by a mechanic). And remove the pan won't be long if you use the right tools. Perhaps, maybe faster because don't need to wait so long for draining. The mechanic should have power tools and the pan removal just need a right size socket + extension. Regarding the gasket, you can choose either original gasket set or liquid gasket. If you have time, you can buy a big piece of paper gasket and cut by yourselves. Very easy. Just put some oil on the pan contact area, stamp it on the paper, cut it out and use a small metal tube and hammer to punch holes (if you don't have proper tools). It will be more than enough to hold that little pressure. But I'm not sure if you can somehow pump until 20 bar. About the heat, if you worrying, then have to check the oil filter o-ring 1st.

May i know who's that mechanic you're talking about?? I'm 'impressed'.....

coupe07
10-03-2007, 04:34 AM
As far as I know, 4 AT doesn't have drain plug and have to remove the whole pan (told by a mechanic). And remove the pan won't be long if you use the right tools. Perhaps, maybe faster because don't need to wait so long for draining. The mechanic should have power tools and the pan removal just need a right size socket + extension. Regarding the gasket, you can choose either original gasket set or liquid gasket. If you have time, you can buy a big piece of paper gasket and cut by yourselves. Very easy. Just put some oil on the pan contact area, stamp it on the paper, cut it out and use a small metal tube and hammer to punch holes (if you don't have proper tools). It will be more than enough to hold that little pressure. But I'm not sure if you can somehow pump until 20 bar. About the heat, if you worrying, then have to check the oil filter o-ring 1st.

first time hear remove oil pan is fast........

Mazurfer
10-03-2007, 07:27 AM
first time hear remove oil pan is fast........

AND.................Every car I've ever run across has an oil drain plug! His mechanic is an idiot! Find another one.......quickly!

Zero_Rotary
10-03-2007, 10:57 AM
:rollingla

csl
10-06-2007, 01:34 AM
I jack up the car and see and found that is not difficult to take out. Use power tool very fast.

ngkenny
10-06-2007, 02:44 AM
coupe07....next time i go monster and change oil....i want your guys to remove my oil pan and get your guys to clean it ok. U have all the tools right? Please don't use the lazy way of using the oil drain plug anymore ok. :)

Mazurfer
10-06-2007, 05:31 AM
coupe07....next time i go monster and change oil....i want your guys to remove my oil pan and get your guys to clean it ok. U have all the tools right? Please don't use the lazy way of using the oil drain plug anymore ok. :)

It's not lazy..............that's what it's there for! Do what you want, but pulling the pan everytime you change the oil is not needed and can lead to other issues......that's all.

mysql101
10-06-2007, 06:32 AM
you guys are doing it wrong. The correct way is to pull the entire engine from the car, drain it (by turning it upside down), then fill the engine up with oil. Don't mess with the oil pans!

Mazurfer
10-06-2007, 06:43 AM
you guys are doing it wrong. The correct way is to pull the entire engine from the car, drain it (by turning it upside down), then fill the engine up with oil. Don't mess with the oil pans!

:rofl:

StealthTL
10-06-2007, 06:47 AM
"Taking the pan off" sounds like a good idea, but it ain't.

If you want a Jiffy-Lube teenager pulling the pan off just to get the last cup of oil out, you are nuts.

The 10mm nuts are small, they are easily overtightened/stripped into the alloy block....$

The pan won't come off, even after all the bolts are out, it's glued in place, so the tech will pry it with large screwdrivers, bending it all around the rim. Best case is it will leak forever, worst case - new pan.....$$

Tech will have to use silicone/goop to re-seal pan to block, gets some in bolt hole and tightens it up. Block WILL crack (check the warning in the manual).......New block. $$$$$$$

How are those LubeQuik guys looking now? Still think they are lazy and just "don't want to do it right"?.......

S

Mazurfer
10-06-2007, 06:55 AM
"Taking the pan off" sounds like a good idea, but it ain't.

If you want a Jiffy-Lube teenager pulling the pan off just to get the last cup of oil out, you are nuts.

The 10mm nuts are small, they are easily overtightened/stripped into the alloy block....$

The pan won't come off, even after all the bolts are out, it's glued in place, so the tech will pry it with large screwdrivers, bending it all around the rim. Best case is it will leak forever, worst case - new pan.....$$

Tech will have to use silicone/goop to re-seal pan to block, gets some in bolt hole and tightens it up. Block WILL crack (check the warning in the manual).......New block. $$$$$$$

How are those LubeQuik guys looking now? Still think they are lazy and just "don't want to do it right"?.......

S


It's just plain scary to think that people would want to pull the pan off at every oil change...............what else can I say. :scared: I mean this is really scary! I'd rather go ahead and use one of those vacuum things that go into the dipstick and suck it out before taking the pan off each and everytime. I hope to hell they read your response Stealth, as you took the time to explain most of the hazards I was thinking, but I was too lazy to put them all down!

ngkenny
10-06-2007, 09:12 AM
It's not lazy..............that's what it's there for! Do what you want, but pulling the pan everytime you change the oil is not needed and can lead to other issues......that's all.

oh man...i hope u caught my joke

sqflyer
10-06-2007, 09:25 AM
oh man...i hope u caught my jokengkenny, joke or no joke... Mazurfer is right, it's not necessary to pull the pan everytime you wanna change engine oil and might cause other problems. Dun think your Greddy oil pan won't spoil hor?! hiak hiak hiak... :yelrotflm :rofl: ;)

mysql101
10-06-2007, 09:43 AM
The pan won't come off, even after all the bolts are out, it's glued in place, so the tech will pry it with large screwdrivers, bending it all around the rim. Best case is it will leak forever, worst case - new pan.....$$

Who cares about the pan! worse case you need a new engine. If they pry on it in the wrong spots, parts of the engine housing can easily be damaged. The OEM pan is not in any danger of being damaged.

Mazurfer
10-06-2007, 10:49 AM
oh man...i hope u caught my joke

Apparently not. No worries! :hahano:

csl
10-06-2007, 02:56 PM
If change engine oil every 3k km with syntactic rotary oil , sure don't need to remove oil pan. But if using mineral oil with 5k km, then you can choose your engine fate. Pay another $10 for removing it won't make your wallet bleeds. The recent engine blown cost me about US$6k to get it done in Japan and send back (blown badly).

mysql101
10-06-2007, 03:10 PM
If change engine oil every 3k km with syntactic rotary oil , sure don't need to remove oil pan. But if using mineral oil with 5k km, then you can choose your engine fate. Pay another $10 for removing it won't make your wallet bleeds. The recent engine blown cost me about US$6k to get it done in Japan and send back (blown badly).

so, uh.. what the hell does your post have to do with this thread, or for that matter, what are you even trying to say? Dropping the oil pan is not going to increase the lifespan of anything versus draining from the oil drain. In fact, you'll have a much higher risk of oil leaking, or engine damage.

csl
10-06-2007, 07:44 PM
I'm not forcing you to follow. You can use the magnetic drain plug and put the hope on it. I have no offense but only give my comment. But so far, non of my cars got oil pan leak till date, including the 1993 wira. I have no doubt on high quality liquid gasket.

rx8dorifto
10-07-2007, 03:03 AM
hey guys...u all drag too far...

i gonna put the hope on the magnetic drain plug only...might change to Greddy oil pan soon as well.

Rumboo
10-07-2007, 01:37 PM
Hmm.. no one's forcing you not to remove the oil pan either, we're just a little concerned and are giving advice cos we know what taking off the pan can do to a car if your mechanic koks it up, and don't see the benefits of doing so (if any... The reasons you mentioned don't seem to make sense). Also, in my 13 yrs of driving and reading about cars, I've never heard of anyone removing the pan for routine oil changes, nor have I seen any writeups which even suggest that.

Regarding the magnetic plug, that's what some aircraft engines use to remove metal debris... or at least, to detect them. The question is, in cars, do we remove and clean the plugs often enough to be of any use, or does it just get saturated too quickly and stop being effective after a short while?

Mazurfer
10-07-2007, 01:42 PM
Hmm.. no one's forcing you not to remove the oil pan either, we're just a little concerned and are giving advice cos we know what taking off the pan can do to a car if your mechanic koks it up, and don't see the benefits of doing so (if any... The reasons you mentioned don't seem to make sense). Also, in my 13 yrs of driving and reading about cars, I've never heard of anyone removing the pan for routine oil changes, nor have I seen any writeups which even suggest that.

Regarding the magnetic plug, that's what some aircraft engines use to remove metal debris... or at least, to detect them. The question is, in cars, do we remove and clean the plugs often enough to be of any use, or does it just get saturated too quickly and stop being effective after a short while?

Let him do it if he wants to! Justy like you said....we gave him the warnings!
Anyway, I change my own oil every 3000 miles and I do clean the plug each and every time, so having said that...............If I was to use a magnetic plug, it would probably do some good.....not sure how much though.

Hey.................Isn't that Typhoon getting pretty close to you by now or is it gone already?

Rumboo
10-08-2007, 02:35 AM
Nup.. Typhoon hitting China.. we're further south, almost sitting directly on the equator. Yay for Coriolis!

Mazurfer
10-09-2007, 06:31 PM
Nup.. Typhoon hitting China.. we're further south, almost sitting directly on the equator. Yay for Coriolis!

Oh sorry....I didn't even see you were in Singapore, I guess I just thought you were in China(Shanghai). Guess I should look more closely! My bad! :rolleyes:

Need2Speed
10-23-2007, 12:42 PM
bought one of those magnetic plugs off ebay. whenever i change the oil there is some dirt around the magnet. not sure if it makes much of a difference but i'm sure it doesn't hurt either.

btw regarding dropping the oil pan to clean out the oil, i'd suggest disconnecting oil cooler lines to remove as much oil as possible out of the system.