I just thought it would be nice to have a thread that lists all the owners of the Pettit super chargers. There are other threads that are dealing with other aspects of the s/c. I am the proud owner of one of the originally released Pettit super charges and would like to hear from all whom have also purchased one. It would be nice if you also posted if you self installed, Pettit shop install or other third party install.

Mine was installed by Paradox Performance, Charles R. Hill.

MAP OF PETTIT SC OWNERS OF THE WORLD
http://platial.com/mapv/Pettit-SC-Map/638383


I AM PRESENTLY REVISING THE MAP AND WILL MAKE SURE THAT EVERY ONE GETS ON IT. IF YOU DO NOT SEE YOUR NAME ON THE LIST BELOW, PLEASE PM ME WITH YOUR INFORMATION.1. Owners Name(s): Screen name and first name
2. State and city of residence:
3. AT/MT & color of vehicle
4. Installed By:
5. Any links that you wish to have added



1. shinka213 / Pat
Aston, Pennsylvania
MT
Pettit Racing

2. Bastage / Gleyner
Melbourne, Florida
MT
Pettit Racing

3. Phil's8 / Phil Dorsey
Las Vegas, Nevada
AT, Brilliant Black
Paradox Performance/Black Halo Racing
See my garage http://www.rx8club.com/vbgarage.php?do=view&id=12315

4. marsredr100 / Juan
Lakeland, Florida
MT
Self Installed (PM him for details)

5. munche187 / Roland
Pembroke Pines, Florida
MT
Pettit Racing

6. vIce^gRip / Dan
Virgina Beach, Virginia
MT
Pettit Racing

7. olddragger / Denny
Macon, Georgia
MT Red
back yard install with help from members of the GA rx8 club

8. Joff / Jesse
Phoenix, Arizona
MT
Pettit Racing

9. jskup1 / Jon
Virginia Beach, Virginia
MT
Pettit Racing

10. cybershark01 / Carlos
Disappeard from members list, Florida?
MT
Pettit Racing

11. MorkusYambo / Adam
LA (lower Alabama), Alabama
MT
Self-Install

12. Rote8/Norman Madden
Orlando, Florida (it's still raining)
MT
Pettit Racing
VB Garage- http://www.rx8club.com/vbgarage.php?do=view&id=13533

13. Bco007/Bryan
Aventura, Florida
MT
Pettit Racing (Cam)

14. ZenRx8/Wes
Unknown, Virgina
MT
Pettit Racing (Moon)

15. Moon/Moon
West Palm Beach, Florida
AT, Yellow
Pettit Racing (Cam and self installed)

16. California Style/Robbie
London, England
MT, Yellow
Self Installed

17. Dogpound 48/ Jon
Mount Holly, New Jersey
MT
Self Installed

18. Rotr8/Greg Thompson
Baltimore, MD
MT, 2004, Ti Gray
Moon Installed

19. BLYNCH/Bill Lynch
Montgomery, Alabama
AT, 2007
Installed by Cam at Pettit Racing

20. JMKuco / Jean-Michel
Guadelope, French West Indies
MT, unknown year
Self Installed with help from an unnamed PRO

I'll have one in 4 days if that counts. They're putting it in.

I have the last of the first production run. Installed by the Man the Myth the Legend Cam.

Ps. I love it!!!!

I'll have one in 4 days if that counts. They're putting it in.

I thought you were getting it this week. That is why I asked earlier plus I am going to be getting an oil change soon. So i wanted to time it to be able to see another Silver 8 with the S/C.

Your going to love it.

I was originally planning on it, but I have a promotion dinner to attend w/ my wife tonight. When are you going to be there? I should be there on Monday and at least Tuesday as well. At least by getting delayed, I'll be able to install and use my new navigation head unit for my trip down there.

This Friday. I may be able to swing by Tuesday mid afternoon.

JSKUP1:
Welcome to the Pettit group. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do.

I believe mine was installed right after Shinka213's was (3rd week of April). First and only blue to my knowledge (until Moon gets his)

I am here... I am waiting on word from Cam to get his Ok for us to make an official Map. This way he will provide all users with the s/c.

I also thought it may be a cool touch to Phil's request to have the a Shot of the Owner with the s/c'd 8. Kinda helps to identify the family.

1. Owners Name:
2. State:
3. Installed By:
4. Photo of You and your s/c'd 8


Sound like a plan?

Good idea, it'd be nice to know where all these kits are...

How many kits have been sold to people who don't frequent these forums, though?

pledge----- :)
olddragger
Georgia
MT
back yard install with help from members of the GA rx8 club
olddragger:scratchhe :sweatdrop :fingersx:
OD

Dun forget
Joff
AZ
MT
Pettit

The pictures sound like a good idea. I'll just have to get me in one, somehow.

Check out the 1st post by Phil... It has been updated.

map enlargement doesn't work on my end.

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when I click on the link, it looks like this:

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/Lookslikethis.jpg

map enlargement doesn't work on my end.

map enlargement doesn't work on my end.
What does it do or not do?

This is the direct link.
http://www.hr8c.com/forum/Pettit_Map.gif

Maybe your browser has an issue with large GIFs
I made a JPG.
http://www.hr8c.com/forum/Pettit_Map.jpg

Anyone else having similar issues?

Linky no worky.

Very nice upgrade to the begining post - I assume that Cam liked the idea?

Question: Was not Moon the first to receive a s/c? I understand leaving off Cam as it was the development unit. Then again Moon does not have the ride any more.

The link on the map does not work for me. I think you got Joff's name wrong but I could be wrong also.

It will be very interesting to see what the "family" look like. The only two that I have meet or seen to date have been Moon and Joff (and his lovley wife).

Very nice upgrade to the begining post - I assume that Cam liked the idea?

Question: Was not Moon the first to receive a s/c? I understand leaving off Cam as it was the development unit. Then again Moon does not have the ride any more.

The link on the map does not work for me. I think you got Joff's name wrong but I could be wrong also.

It will be very interesting to see what the "family" look like. The only two that I have meet or seen to date have been Moon and Joff (and his lovley wife).
Cam has not approved or denied the map. SO this is an UNOFFICIAL USER CREATED MAP! I just figured, as we know who these people are, we could add them. Moon's s/c was undamaged, but is not on the road. When Moon is s/c'd again I will put him back up.
Also when this car has a home that owner will be up here too.
http://pettitracing.com/car_sale/black8gallery.htm

Mao Question? It is working fine for me and I see no apparent flaw in the code?
Can yas tell me what Browser you are using?
Internet Exploder or FireFox?
UPDATE: OK Never Mind... It was a bug in lame ass Internet Exploder! It will not display large filed GIF's. I have updated the map with a JPG file so it should all be fine now.

You fixed it - I was getting the same as Bastage earlier. Very nice. Being computer challenged seems to be a trait in my family - even my sister who is a Prof. at CSLB and has a doctorate in languages has trouble operating the computer.

hi guys
my name is carlos im from the palm beach area and as we speak my Black 2004 GT RX8 is at the shop getting the stage 2 SC and stage 2 breaks install im looking foward to get it back and try it . i been reading u guys post for a few weeks so i decide to join u guys family

hi guys
my name is carlos im from the palm beach area and as we speak my Black 2004 GT RX8 is at the shop getting the stage 2 SC and stage 2 breaks install im looking foward to get it back and try it . i been reading u guys post for a few weeks so i decide to join u guys family
Welcome to the fold Carlos.
Get us a pic of you with your s/c'd 8!
I'll add you to the Map as soon as I can.

hi guys
my name is carlos im from the palm beach area and as we speak my Black 2004 GT RX8 is at the shop getting the stage 2 SC and stage 2 breaks install im looking foward to get it back and try it . i been reading u guys post for a few weeks so i decide to join u guys family

I was at the shop today your car is done. I like the brake upgrade. Your car sounds looksa and sounds awsome.

Congrats and welcome to the club.

I loved the hood which hood is that. Where did you get it

Cam has not approved or denied the map. SO this is an UNOFFICIAL USER CREATED MAP!

I spoke to Cam during lunch and the MAP is a GO!!!!

hi i know this is a ridiculous question, but may i ask what you owners of the Pettit SC are getting in MPG city/hwy? and what your pre-SC mpg were?
The reason I ask is, Mazdatrix has a new SC out, and I would like to have some comparison, and weigh out the pros and cons of each SC before I commit. Appreciate any info. Thanks.

Can't wait til my warranty is over to get the SC and the HP this car should have had in the beginning.:mdrmed:

hi i know this is a ridiculous question, but may i ask what you owners of the Pettit SC are getting in MPG city/hwy? and what your pre-SC mpg were?
The reason I ask is, Mazdatrix has a new SC out, and I would like to have some comparison, and weigh out the pros and cons of each SC before I commit. Appreciate any info. Thanks.

Can't wait til my warranty is over to get the SC and the HP this car should have had in the beginning.:mdrmed:

I was 225/300 Full to Empty - City/Highway Stock
S/C'd 180/280 Full to Empty - City/Highway Blown

As you can see in city it drinks a lot... mostly cause the shutter opens up if you roll the throttle anything other than mellow.
I used to get just over 50 miles per 1/4 tank City... now I get like just over 40 miles per tank. You can't play without paying! Though Cam suspects and hopes that with the flash the fuel economy will come back.

hi guys
my name is carlos im from the palm beach area and as we speak my Black 2004 GT RX8 is at the shop getting the stage 2 SC and stage 2 breaks install im looking foward to get it back and try it . i been reading u guys post for a few weeks so i decide to join u guys family

Your car runs SOOOOO good. Can you say FLASHED.

Your car runs SOOOOO good. Can you say FLASHED.
Flash - a-ah - saviour of the universe
Flash - a-ah - he'll save everyone of us
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Flash - a-ah - he's a miracle
Flash - a-ah - king of the impossible

He's for everyone of us
Stand for everyone of us
He'll save with a mighty hand
Every man every woman
Every child - with a mighty flash

Flash - a-ah
Flash - a-ah - he'll save everyone of us

Just a man
With a man's courage
He knows nothing but a man
But he can never fail
No one but the pure in heart
May find the golden grail
Oh oh - oh oh
Flash

http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/562/

No cells either, yea. Drives stock, learns and everything, really smooth, Cams has the 3rd stage pully on and that flash is almost ready also.

No cells either, yea. Drives stock, learns and everything, really smooth, Cams has the 3rd stage pully on and that flash is almost ready also.

D00d... Stop!
Don't get my hopes all up for Stage 3 already... I told myself not till Jan 08.
Not that I won't take it any sooner!

Cant have it any sooner, lol

Moon your a Tease!!!!

hi guys
my name is carlos im from the palm beach area and as we speak my Black 2004 GT RX8 is at the shop getting the stage 2 SC and stage 2 breaks install im looking foward to get it back and try it . i been reading u guys post for a few weeks so i decide to join u guys family

Welcome to the family Carlos.

Wait a minute---wait a minute---hold on---i am dizzy here. i am finalizing full payment next week------anything I need to know to make my plan to be better? I have not received my int x yet--still in building stage----come on help out a wounded veteran here!
olddragger

I think I may have mentioned it to you earlier. I am not sure if others have the same problem, but the X does not respond well to changes in the humidity levels or air density. The idle is a real bitch to get correct and hold. Jeff (MazdaManiac) has the technical terms for this, me just the results. I am frustrated with the X in the desert cuz in the very early morning it will run well and then in the heat of the day it was a completely different car. Now that winter/fall has set in it's more under control. I would have chucked it long ago if not for the chance of the flash tool from Pettit. Jeff and I are going to give it one more try during SEMA and if we can't get it to acceptable levels of operation then it's up for sale. NOW please note that no one else except desert people have complained about this so it could be only dry thin air that is the problem. Cam did a quick tune at SSX and it ran well in Cali but the closer I got to home the worse it got. In fairness a vacuum hose came loose during the drive but even after replacing it the car still ran terrible. I reloaded a map off the dongle and it is now running acceptable. Sorry I can't be more technical but I'm just learning about tuning.

Wow so having the X out here sucks ah Phil? Does Pettit come with a flash?

OD... no holding of the breath... And I'd not go and call Cam about Moon's announcement (A Calculated Leak). It is rather premature, but a fact that it really is quite this close. The Flash in on a few Vehicles, but it is in the tuning, diagnostic and trouble shooting phase. It is not being sold as ready for release. Carlos is in the area and can quickly go to the shop for mapping and diagnostics etc...

Now... Phil. It is not only you. We may not have it as severe as you, but we are not perfect either... The Int-X (by my estimation) "gets the job done". On cool crisp days, it is absolutely unbelievable the power the s/c / Int-X produces. The drive is smoother and better than I could dream for. But the same thing at sea level on my coast up north... as the climate changes, the power, response & crispness is not the same. This does lead to the notion that the Int-X can not adjust for altitude, humidity and climate changes the way factory PCU's are designed to. It does not go without saying that cool intake air will always make a car run better because the molecules are more dense and create a nice rich explosion as opposed to big fat lazy hot air molecules. It also does not say that some of the things that are being added, specifically for the flash would no assist the Int-X, but Pettit wants a stand alone solution for their kit, so rather than spend time developing fixes for the X, they are focusing on the Flash.

Perhaps there are some things I could shed some light on in regards to tuning the Interceptor-X with the Pettit setup. There are cars running the unit all over the U.S. and other countrys without these issues. Feel free to call the shop or pm me if you like, I will be happy to help,Scott

I wanted to play--so i guess I will play.
OD

thanks Scott I am new to this type of modification and have a lot to learn. Add that to basal cell ganglia fatty deposits in the brain and i have a real challenge ahead of me! with 3 women in the house i hope my install etc is in good coordination with the estrogen God. Sometimes there is not enough chocolate in the world........
olddragger

Wow so having the X out here sucks ah Phil? Does Pettit come with a flash?

Now where did I say that??? No it does not suck it just seems to have some quirks that I am not smart enough to fix. Obviously the flash will be the panacea and solve all our problems. I just get frustrated when the tune changes. Scott is always asking me to get with him about my problems but I'm not the one tuning it only changing the maps when I have a problem.

Oh I see your just frustrated with it at the moment. Got it.

Perhaps there are some things I could shed some light on in regards to tuning the Interceptor-X with the Pettit setup. There are cars running the unit all over the U.S. and other countrys without these issues. Feel free to call the shop or pm me if you like, I will be happy to help,Scott
Scott,
Please know I am not at all slamming your product. My X was loaded with Juan's latest tune, and while in FL. it ran great. even better when it was cooler at night with low humidity.
I do appreciate your position on standing by the X! I hope I did not come across as calling it not a "finished" product.
Maybe I will give ya a call next week to get some better understanding of your system.
Dan

I've been using the X since I was n/a and was satisfied with it's performance. I am not capable of tuning myself and have had three others tune it. One of them is touted as being the best. All can get a good tune for the hours of the tune and we have mapped the best in the computer or the dongle. Scott, I think you know Steve Kan. He was in town for a 7 tuning session and agreed to do mine. He got a great n/a tune in it but even he got frustrated later in the day when it completely changed. Jeff has tuned it three times and has produced some great tunes but they have changed (settings still the same but results changed) in a few hours. Cam tuned it at SSX and it ran great during the tune and again the next day but as I got closer to Vegas it started to deteriorate. Since then Jeff suggested that until we have another chance to work on it that I reload one of the dongle tunes (it's worked rather nicely). I have been reluctant to bring you in because if I then had a problem you are 3000 miles away. I was hoping that you would be at a tuning session that was planned in LA so that you and Jeff could talk, but it did not come off. Jeff is trying to teach me, thank god he's got patience. I did not realize I was bad raping the product just pointing out my frustration. I apologize for any of my comments that may have been construed to be negative to your product. There are hundreds out there that do not have any problems.

I remember in the old days that you also had to chamge the tune when you went to the mountains etc. dang car at times would not even pull up a steep hill in high gear as usual. So I suspect the physics are the same:)--it is just the way cars are tuned now. That is why at the track people now have weather stations.
If we are going to play we have to learn the game.
olddragger

I remember in the old days that you also had to chamge the tune when you went to the mountains etc. dang car at times would not even pull up a steep hill in high gear as usual. So I suspect the physics are the same:)--it is just the way cars are tuned now. That is why at the track people now have weather stations.
If we are going to play we have to learn the game.
olddragger

What on the tunning fixes the elevation diffrances? Make a knob that changes those perameters on the fly. Just throwing out ideas. Is that possible Scott. Other then the tunning modual wich if you dont now what your doing you can accidently erase maps just by sitting on it wrong. I like that thing by the way, you can tune in some great gas milage out of tank buy the way.

Somthing in that respect but I look at that as being another map to worrie about. Thats what I liked about the interceptor is the simplicity of what your working with. Load, wide open throttle, cruze all crossed buy the boost /vac. Thats a great option for those that like to try different things like mods and more boost, nos and just about anything, hell they run them on the Diasios and plant a consistant 370 to the ground and have very reliable results.

Baro sensor.

LOL... my Next gauge... Altimeter!

Wow a barometer sensor. Must be a Aneroid barometer is an instrument for measuring the pressure of the air, due to the weight of the column of air above it. As the earth's atmosphere gets thinner with increasing height, it follows that as we ascend from sea level and low-lying parts of the earth's surface, the weight of the air will decrease. That is, the pressure will fall.
Invented about or around 1645 by an Italian mathematician named Torricelli. He discovered the principle of the barometer. Talk about old technologie lol

Another plus about the interceptor is it dosnt care if you have a cat or not so if you want to flash you need to keep your kitty or get a high flow. It throws a cell without it.

Moon, would you restate that differently, please? I don't quite understand what you are saying. Thx.

About the tunning??

The same maps dont work as well with or without the cat. You need sedate changes to get the best of it.

ok, sorry florida storm cut the power

You need not make many changes to the interceptor tune if you remove your cat, but you can make the best of it.
The Flash needs every thing pretty much stock between the MAF and the last O2. If you change that the ECU trys to correct itself to keep the CAT lit off adding fuel and running to max fuel. Its step 1 to getting the kit Carb certified in those states with emmisions. Trust me on this, youl see a dyno to prove 269 2nd stage very soon and the HP climb is so liner, I was scratching my head, no wobles or drops, youl see it on the pettit sight soon.

So Moon...

When can I drive my car down and get this???

So Moon...

When can I drive my car down and get this???

When Cam calls ya. Lets get a few miles on the new guys car no pun intended. Plus im tired of making those dam airflow housings, 5 sofare. Time to CNC after Cam decides wich one to mass produce.

Your on the list of locals though.

Cam have any plans to offer a re-flash along the lines of RB's?

Dont now much about RBs.

Ow yeh, the NA flash, id say the same method as them or mazda does. Through your obd.

I wonder if it will be a portable flash tool or will I need to send in my pcm? I'm hoping for a portable tool and I'm hoping I am somehow on that list.

Moon, how about an RP super cat, will that work? Will it work on the at?

Even though I knew Cam was developing it, I was careful not to bug him about it at SSX. I mentioned it once and he did not respond so I hope he did not think I was not interested.

You beat me to it Phil! Had to step out for a sec.
But yeah will a high flow cat work? Like the one for the RX-8 on the rx7shop.com or something site? Or Greddy high flow cat? I was told buy Ray STL that if I fool the o2 I will still have the code and light on then it will get moved to the back to make room for a new code. So now my question on that one is; is the code the reason for the idle/car running like this?
Phil, Aer you hooking up a tool where you can read the codes and delet them?
Food for thought?

I wonder if it will be a portable flash tool or will I need to send in my pcm? I'm hoping for a portable tool and I'm hoping I am somehow on that list.

Moon, how about an RP super cat, will that work? Will it work on the at?



I cant go into that at this time but ill tell you when I see it ready to ship or what ever. I do now it needs all of your coded moduals together at this time, the key, the halo around the key and a few moduals I cant discuss for the safty of peoples parts or vehicals getting stollen.

Thats to be tested, no reason it wont work that I forsee though.

Ow, also, you can hookup an interceptor without messing up the flash to run a custome pully to push ??? psi. You can run 12 psi withought overspinning your blower at 9000 RPM, govern it at 7500 and Id say 16, 18 maybe for those days when you want to just track test. Ow you say to high a compresion, well, cant say anymore. Let me see what happens next week.

Hummm... I like the sound of this

Ow yeh, the NA flash, id say the same method as them or mazda does. Through your obd.

I'm of the opinion that RB reflash via the JTAG interface, which requires PCM removal and dissassembly (no-pun intended!) rather than through the ODBII port.

Cheers,
Hymee.

LOL... my Next gauge... Altimeter!

Hey Dan, maybe we can head over to DRMO and see about getting an old dash panel out of an F14! We'd have all kinds of gauges then!

sound also like i have made a good decision to get the int x---
when I track--i install a midpipe
when i track it can be in the winter, summer or fall (temps can range from the 50's to over 100)
I have the rb street flash and when i get to the track my long term fuel trims affect the car. I pull the room fuse and then reinsert just a few minutes before i pull out of the staging area. Its not much but every bit helps.
Nice to know the flexibility of all this. Good info
thanks Moon
olddragger

You beat me to it Phil! Had to step out for a sec.
But yeah will a high flow cat work? Like the one for the RX-8 on the reship.com or something site? Or Greddy high flow cat? I was told buy Ray STOL that if I fool the O I will still have the code and light on then it will get moved to the back to make room for a new code. So now my question on that one is; is the code the reason for the idle/car running like this?
Phil, Ear you hooking up a tool where you can read the codes and delete them?
Food for thought?

I presently have a Scan Gauge that allows for reading cels and deleting them but if the cause is not fixed they will come back, for example the infamous cell that the X throws. I just clear it out every so ofter and let it come back so that I can check to make sure nothing else is wrong.
I'm glad that the flash will accept the high flow cat (I can keep mine on). The possible use of the X for other uses is also intriguing. OD has some good ideas for track racers. Moon, you made me happy

I'll trade my race pipe if anyone has a high flow.

I'm of the opinion that RB reflash via the JTAG interface, which requires PCM removal and dissassembly (no-pun intended!) rather than through the ODBII port.

Cheers,
Hymee.

The flash is done through the OBD port from what ive seen, Bill and Cam never even opened Carloses ECU cover and had it Flashed before the instal was even completed, I like it alot.

Moon give me a quick call.

Moon with the Flash are the fans going to be able to be set to turn on at a lower temp. Like with the Racing Beat Flash.

The DSC can we invert it to be off and only on when we switch it on.

Moon with the Flash are the fans going to be able to be set to turn on at a lower temp. Like with the Racing Beat Flash.

The DSC can we invert it to be off and only on when we switch it on.
Both excellent questions Roland!
If we can internally control the Fans, then I can off load my MazSport Cool Fan Mod. (Which as it stands, I like a lot.)

And I would rather the DSC remain off as well and I can switch it on when it is raining or snow etc...

I was at the shop today your car is done. I like the brake upgrade. Your car sounds looksa and sounds awsome.

Congrats and welcome to the club.

I loved the hood which hood is that. Where did you get it

Ty for the info.
the hood is a SEIBON TS carbon fiber i order it from bodykitz.com great place they work fast and prices are good too im ordering the Seibon TS2 in a couple of weeks i think will help a little better with temp

MorkusYambo/Adam
Alabama
MT
Although i've owned the kit for a few weeks now, I bought a used Int-X and have been waiting on that to do the install.

MorkusYambo/Adam
Alabama
MT
Although i've owned the kit for a few weeks now, I bought a used Int-X and have been waiting on that to do the install.
Welcome to the community Adam. You gonna be doing the install yourself? please let us know how things go.
I'll get ya added to the map!

Welcome to the club.

Moon with the Flash are the fans going to be able to be set to turn on at a lower temp. Like with the Racing Beat Flash.

The DSC can we invert it to be off and only on when we switch it on.
Yes and not yet

My Dad and I will be doing the install. I am going to take photographs of anything that ends up being different from what is in the install PDF.

Vice Grip. My location is in SE Alabama, near Enterprise.

welcome to all the new SC owners....

:D:

Welcome Adam.

My Dad and I will be doing the install. I am going to take photographs of anything that ends up being different from what is in the install PDF.
By the way Adam,
Do you need a Pettit s/c Map to load in the Int-X? If yes, let me know and I'll have Pat mail my latest tune to ya. You will get to touch my Dongle! LOL It will be good for at least a base to start with if it is not good enough already.

Pat how is your tune doing now? Any of those idle issues getting better? Power differences? What does the Butt Dyno say?

Scott at Mazsport is going to load a map for me. If I am not happy with it, myself and my dad will try to tune it ourselves. If that doesn't work I will definately be interested in your map.

I am sure Scott's map will be just fine! I thought I read that you got a used X. I had just assumed that you would need a good map for the s/c. I did not think that you had contacted MazSport to get a map. I was juts wanting to help, but alas you are already covered!

I'm HEEEEERE!

This was a really good idea. I like this!
By the way. Ithink the forum shut down the pettit superscharger thread in the "Major Horsepower Mod" window?
What the heck?
olddragger

This was a really good idea. I like this!
By the way. Ithink the forum shut down the pettit superscharger thread in the "Major Horsepower Mod" window?
What the heck?
olddragger

It got closed by a mod because things got off topic and a flame-war was in process.

I nominate you to start a new one in there.

This was a really good idea. I like this!
By the way. Ithink the forum shut down the pettit superscharger thread in the "Major Horsepower Mod" window?
What the heck?
olddragger
Yeah Dan,
I think Ol' Jeff and I went a bit too far again. I wold hope that he wold bare some blame for it, but for sure I will own my part. I am sure my poor behavior contributed. Though I must say, my very last post was just the "I Feel Pretty" song from the West Side Story / Anger Management movie!
LOL
Sorry.

It got closed by a mod because things got off topic and a flame-war was in process.

I nominate you to start a new one in there.
No please don't. Keep it here.

No problem for me. I definitly have enough questions about what i am trying to do to stay on topic. Sometimes, I feel too many!
Now if all of us dogs will stop sniffing each others butt we can get back to work> :)
Has anyone gotten the mazsport cannister set and applied it to the sc setup. Sure is sweet looking.
olddragger

No please don't. Keep it here.
RG... with all due respect... This Vendor Area is not the same as the Aftermarket Performance Modifications areas. It is not fair to Pettit and potential customers and all others on the boards to not have a Pettit s/c discussion in that venue. It is not right the two knuckle-heads have that much power over this.
I would propose a ban of the two of us from being able to post in that thread at the very least. If not permanently, but for a while until something in us changes that allows us to co-exist.
Please consider the option! http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b205/awful1/wtu.gif

Has anyone gotten the mazsport cannister set and applied it to the sc setup. Sure is sweet looking.
olddragger
Nope but if Scott wants to donate a kit to me I'll sure drop it in and send feedback!!! LOL figure the odds... :) It sure does look like a sweet setup though! I cannot gets Scott's site to play nice though, it keeps 404's.
Not Found
The requested URL /shop/index.php was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

It was requested that I close it down so it could be kept here. I proposed the idea but ultimately it wasn't my decision that closed it. Unless I am requested by Petit to allow it back into that section, it stays here. Petition them on the matter.

RG, Being that the case, understood.
Thank you for your consideration.
Dan

No problem for me. I definitly have enough questions about what i am trying to do to stay on topic. Sometimes, I feel too many!
Now if all of us dogs will stop sniffing each others butt we can get back to work> :)
Has anyone gotten the mazsport cannister set and applied it to the sc setup. Sure is sweet looking.
olddragger

Whats that for?

Dom...
Air/Oil/Water Trio
Custom air separator tank, oil catch can or windshield washer reservoir will give your 8 a more attractive appearance and much more!
http://www.mazsport.net/images/airoilwatertriobig.jpg
The set-up looks sweet and Blingy for show.
I know Pettit is designing a custom air separator tank too. But Scott's has all the bells n whistles.

Oh yeah ok. I know what that part was just could not place the name "cannister". Guess I should have looked at the web-site.
Thanks.

what is an "air seperator " ?

its a flashy word for lungs?

no it is part of the cooling system. to insure that air bubbles actually do not continue to circulate in the cooling system.
An additional idea of mine is that MAYBE it (the same cannister) could be used for the air to water inter cooler reservoir instead of the air separator tank.. I talked to betsy about them today----very sweet set up.
olddragger

Thanks I was going to ask the same question. Odd by looking at the item I can some what tell what its for. But just dont know the ex term.

Interceptor is on the way. Will be installing this week!

We all should plan on going to the Dragon next year

We all should plan on going to the Dragon next year

+1

I've never been there. Count me in.

+1

http://rx8botd.com/

Its on, I should have a 6 speed buy then. I couldnt wait to go to this past meet but, well no car to take. CRAP

I've never been there. Count me in.


It's one of those MUST DO's if you own an 8! I missed it this year,:banghead: but I've been to the DGRR (Deals Gap Rotary Rally) which is held in the same place.
BTW if you ever get up to North Alabama give me a yell.

We have a pretty cool group of foks up here in our club. Check us out at TVRX8.ORG. Usually someone is up for a burger and/or a beer. :)

Laura

It's one of those MUST DO's if you own an 8! I missed it this year,:banghead: but I've been to the DGRR (Deals Gap Rotary Rally) which is held in the same place.
BTW if you ever get up to North Alabama give me a yell.

We have a pretty cool group of foks up here in our club. Check us out at TVRX8.ORG. Usually someone is up for a burger and/or a beer. :)

Laura

Hey Laura
will you be at the dragon next year??
:)

I discovered the "Dragon" for the rx8 club. hehe---years ago i posted about deals gap (i used to use it to go to a white water launch point) and the guys took off with it. They sure did a good job promoting and it is a great event. I am all for that also--maybe a side trip to Road Atlanta?
olddragger

We posted this the other day on the Pettit site, This is our flash pull 2nd stage settup, just like all the kits sold. Look at that strait solid HP line. This was also an at the least 85 degree day. Click on the dyno to expand, If anyone can paste it bigger please do.

http://pettitracing.com/rx8/index.htm

Very nice! 271! I can't bloody wait...

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/dyno2.jpg

oooh - that's better than porn ....

I hoped you guys would show us a decent dyno at some stage - the previous ones showed a real bad dip at 7200 . MYSQL - if you are reading this - can you put it up on the comparison chart please .

Its pretty flat and the volume of TQ along the entire RPM range is outragos compared to anything ive seen yet on 6 psi, its making that much TQ, maybe not so much HP but theres nothing like running these cars from 3 grand all the way to 8 or 9000 in 4th or 5th, its crazy. I love turbos also but for the street and roadcourse I like the blower, its so much more fun in my oppinion. If you race turbos like I ran my car for as long and hard im willing to say your turbostuds will be welded and break off.

wonder what the intake charge temp was?
OD

Ray,
I plan on doing a Dyno Run up North. We can get those exact numbers, though not the "Flashed" ones. I know the flash is supposed to by way more linear than the X, but it will be an idea of where it is at with the X to compare to the Flash.

hmmmm.....

maybe we could get Jon to dyno???

:kiss:

We all should plan on going to the Dragon next year

I have heard of over aggressive law enforcement on the Dragon. I was up there a week ago on my motorcycle and there was 6 LEO's on The Dragon. They seemed to be fairly chilled. I was there for about 4 hours and only one guy got a ticket. He was a Harley rider who was in the 45 zone at the lake heading back toward NC.

If you have not been there in a while, you have to fight the urge to accelerate out of the corners. It does not take much to put you over the 30 mph speed limit in the tight section. With a trooper or deputy around about every corner you do not want to take any chances.

I will still go to The Dragon once in a while, but there are so many great roads in NC and some that I enjoy actually better than the dragon. They are just as curvy and are longer. It is just impossible to replace the excitement of The Dragon.

Well I just finished my install. The car definately has more kick in the lower rpms. Anyone planning on doing the install yourself? Make sure you have an experienced mechanic helping you. I have a couple of other minor issues, but it wouldn't be fair to Pettit to air them in the open forum since Cam has allways done his best to assist me in the past.

i bought a dremel....does that count...

:rollingla

plan on doing my install soon. I will not "back out" of buying the int x from scott since I had already ordered it--I cant do that type of thing. He is suppose to ship it this week. I can get use out of it i am sure between data logging and track.
I live about 500 miles away from the install point and my work could not let me go until sometime in november. so my plan is:
1- Cam to ok shipment this week--he likes to make sure the kit is right when shipped.
2- install with the int x.
3 sort out any "issues"/individual things I would like to do(maybe an inlet charge temp monitor--maybe a single radiator up front, maybe a battery relocate etc
4- make an appointment with Cam in November and go get the flash?
Meanwhile I have a billet oil filter relocation kit from ebay(turned out VERY nice) with gauges access x 2 , earls ss 10an lines and earls nickel plated swivel fittings. I had forgotten how much of a pita putting these lines together would be. But they sure are purty:).
Getting mazsports chrome/polished windshield washer bottle and then mounting all on the firewall.

How much weight does the kit add to the front.??
olddragger

shinka, I KNEW you wear gearing up for some hostilities during my visit. Have you been watching those "Saw" movies?:lol2:

no "SAW" movies....i prefer scapules... :naughty:

PM me your cell....just in case, to coordinate the upcoming event...

:D:

Summit racing asking to see my car after the install. i live about 45miles from the southeastern distribution part of it. huge showroom and they have car meets ALL the time. we will see.
OD

roger that--keep in touch
OD

just love those buttons!
OD

Sweet

I am currently trying to select a tank that fits nicely under the hood so you don't have to use your windshield washer jug. I suppose you could use washer fluid for both your windshield AND alcohol injection. The factory jug, at nearly 1G, is big enough to use for both.

What are your opinions on the matter?

Your saying that the size of the tank will need to be one gallon?

separate tank--check out mazsport's set up. i just ordered the windshiled wiper one to replace my oem one so i will have enough room to mount my aftermarket oil filter relocation bracket.
i would suggest doing a battery relocate, a radiator overflow air tank relocate and then line the bottles up for the a/w intercooler tank(larger one than present) and the injection tank.http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=108532&stc=1&d=1191896833
overflow tank.jpg
OD

Kiss

Here's the dyno sheet from my SC install. Unfortunately, teardown had already begun before I could get a base run. My car is flashed, no piggyback at all. Before people start being critical, I agreed to be a lab rat. They are not finished with the flash yet. The choppiness after the 6th port opens up will be smoothed by the time the flash goes full production. I can say that the flash is working out pretty well though. I've had 1 CEL for Bank 1 running too rich and that is being resolved. It only did that in one instance and other than that. It runs awesome. I cleared it and it hasn't come back. My idle is steady and there is no noticable hesitation. The irregularities in my curve aren't felt in the butt dyno, but when all is said and done, I should probably expect about 10 more HP w/ smooth curves w/ the Stage 2 kit. The dyno is cut off at 8K and my rev limit is set at 8.5K. I'm still pulling past 8K though. It was typical SOFL weather, humid and in the 90's. Car was driven about 10 miles prior to dyno.

Here are a few pics of the engine bay upon a few requests:

Well I went to rotate my tires and the lugs stripped. So since I had to get new ones I went with the Skunk2 light weight ones. Has anybody switched to light weight lugs yet.

just make sure you use the long ones not those little acorns.
Sweet Pics jsk thanks for posting those.
the dyno looks good to me other than the mentions you said. love that torque line.
i bet that really changes the car:) Do you like 4th gear!.
One ? why the throttle body hose? You didnt do the bypass mod? Live in a cold climate?
olddragger

just sent final payment---here we go............:0D

????? does the base model that comes with 16 inch rims come with a sunroof????? if so what else is lacking

????? does the base model that comes with 16 inch rims come with a sunroof????? if so what else is lacking

Not sure about '06 or '07, but I'm pretty sure you need at least a Touring model to get the sunroof in the '04s and '05s.

Still looking for a car moon?

Not sure about '06 or '07, but I'm pretty sure you need at least a Touring model to get the sunroof in the '04s and '05s.

Still looking for a car moon?

Thats what I thought, dont rember seeing any other years without the MOONROOF, bad joke, ha ha..

I might have bought a new 07 but im still contemplating the dreaded payments.

I might have bought a new 07 but im still contemplating the dreaded payments.

TAKE THE PLUNGE.....

you will never regret owning an 8 especially with a blower!! :)

who said I was going to put a blower on, lol

Why would I have him do it for me, im not in the hospital for major back surgery. Now its time to make some lets say, alterations, major alterations, youl see what I have in mind soon enough. I have a few ideas for my own up my sleeve, like for one, inverted coil brackets so you can keep an eye on the condition of them without removal. Youl have to see the rest as I go.

yeah you need a gt to get the moon roof. If you decide to go 07 let me know the company I work for gets the employee discount on all ford motor company vehicles

I just need a new set of wheels to get my brembos to fit

just make sure you use the long ones not those little acorns.
Sweet Pics jsk thanks for posting those.
the dyno looks good to me other than the mentions you said. love that torque line.
i bet that really changes the car:) Do you like 4th gear!.
One ? why the throttle body hose? You didnt do the bypass mod? Live in a cold climate?
olddragger

yup I got the long ones and they are surprisingly light

why the throttle body hose? You didnt do the bypass mod? Live in a cold climate?
olddragger

It's just vented, not ran with coolant. The purpose? That's a good question. Now I'm curious to go follow the hose.

Here's the dyno sheet from my SC install. Unfortunately, teardown had already begun before I could get a base run. My car is flashed, no piggyback at all. Before people start being critical, I agreed to be a lab rat. They are not finished with the flash yet. The choppiness after the 6th port opens up will be smoothed by the time the flash goes full production. I can say that the flash is working out pretty well though. I've had 1 CEL for Bank 1 running too rich and that is being resolved. It only did that in one instance and other than that. It runs awesome. I cleared it and it hasn't come back. My idle is steady and there is no noticable hesitation. The irregularities in my curve aren't felt in the butt dyno, but when all is said and done, I should probably expect about 10 more HP w/ smooth curves w/ the Stage 2 kit. The dyno is cut off at 8K and my rev limit is set at 8.5K. I'm still pulling past 8K though. It was typical SOFL weather, humid and in the 90's. Car was driven about 10 miles prior to dyno.

Thanks for the update, dyno, and pics. It looks like it put down about 260whp? It has a nice balanced power curve but looks like it could use a little more power up top. I'm sure in the coming months there will be a fix for that. Looks very clean, how much was your final price tag after the install and tune? Did you use the autotrain to get it down there? I'm in NoVa...gas to get down there must be a samll fortune. Damn, I use to live in FL until this summer!!! Also since this cold front is about to hit, let us know how it holds up with a cold start/running in the cold. FL hardly ever gets cold!!!

It put down 266. Like I said, one they get the flash smoothed out, it'll be good for more. I drove it down there. It took about 14 hours. I thought about shipping it but I've read a ton of nightmares about it and how much of a hassle it is to get things fixed if they do fubar it . I'll let you know about how it runs when it's cooler. But, when it get's really cold, they car will hibernate. It's not my everyday car, so when it's crappy out, it sleeps. It did make me cry to have it on the highway in the rain though to get it down there. I'll pm you the price.

Wow - are they working on a flash for the 4-port 4AT? That would make me have to start thinking seriously...

When it is released, I'm sure it will cover it since they have a SC for the 4port AT

The Flash will work on both N/A and FI Manual or AT. For the NA one of the key benefits is it will turn on the fans earlier. For the AT in addition the rev limiter can be adjusted. That is some of the benefits there are more. When it gets released they will post it up on their site.

Wow - are they working on a flash for the 4-port 4AT? That would make me have to start thinking seriously...

yep

i am in the same boat. i love the kit and the reflash will be a step in the right direction for me. i am also curious about other enhancements to the kit will become available.

Theres a couple in the works.

Will the reflash be included in the 5K price for StageII? Maybe too early to ask that question...very good to hear they are getting close, though...

Will the reflash be included in the 5K price for StageII? Maybe too early to ask that question...very good to hear they are getting close, though...

I sure hope, or at least if you have them do the install they will reflash as part of the $5K for the kit or the $1k for install. That would make this kit a great deal, just my opinion but they need to do something to keep a competitive advantage. Good quality kit, but there are others coming into the market, the threat of substitute (according to Porter's 5 forces model) for those business strategy people haha. Seriously though it would be a nice perk. I'm dancing on the line on what kit to go with so a flash included would def. sway me to go with the Pettit kit.

I sure hope, or at least if you have them do the install they will reflash as part of the $5K for the kit or the $1k for install. That would make this kit a great deal, just my opinion but they need to do something to keep a competitive advantage. Good quality kit, but there are others coming into the market, the threat of substitute (according to Porter's 5 forces model) for those business strategy people haha. Seriously though it would be a nice perk. I'm dancing on the line on what kit to go with so a flash included would def. sway me to go with the Pettit kit.

Hate to say that the flash isnt going to be free, its an alternative to managment ECU or piggyback, and a good one at that. The price hasnt been figured out yet.

Like a better radiator for the A/T models perhaps? Maybe alcohol injection, too? Shameless self-promotion on my part.......:icon_no2:

We have 5 A/I kits on the way for testing with our inshop blowers. Opps, did I say that.

We have 5 A/I kits on the way for testing with our inshop blowers. Opps, did I say that.

"A/I kit"? If they're coming with Artificial Intelligence now, I want one of those!

Rather have a single a/water intercooler--not into a mo-power thing. Always wanted this car with a 260-275 at the wheel with some more torque----enough for me! Although without developement of differant things we would not get anywhere.
OD

O, almost forgot, I dont think its been posted yet, if it has sorry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foUYemyjpzM

stars are born!!!!

cam and moon of pettit racing!!!

w00t!!!!

awesome work...especially in the elements...
you guys rock!!!

:rock:

Another cat to be let out of the bag here are spy pics of something new.

Any guesses?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/MUNCHE187/RX8/moonint.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/MUNCHE187/RX8/moonint2.jpg

SIII Intercooler!!!

It looks to be about 10-15% larger then the SII intercooler...
So am I right?
LOL

yes it is 10%-15% bigger

don't know about the stageIII.

This is something Moon is working on. Wait until he sees the pics.lol

After he flips out he may elaborate or just ban me from the shop.lolol
Well not the shop but the work area.

Ohhh,
This is Moon's project.. I think I know what it is... he had said he was gonna try to kick the chilly factor up a bit! If the guts are from some other car... than I know what it is!

I know what it is and it is "very cool"!!
OD

I forgot to mention that the issues I thought I had were worked out with the help of Cam and Charles Hill. The car has been running great since this weekend. Now I just need to lean out the tune. The car feels like its drowning in fuel above 7k RPMS.

Roland, im gona kick your ass, lol, na its a evap. that got a tight squeeze. Gona try to eliminate the tank, pump, and heat exchangers, water. A cooler charge temp is always great.

Almost forgot, hows the 8 running?

Roland, im gona kick your ass, lol, na its a evap. that got a tight squeeze. Gona try to eliminate the tank, pump, and heat exchangers, water. A cooler charge temp is always great.

and it doubles as an ice maker!!!!

beers :beer:

just so you guys know that the shinks is not ALL GO and NO SHOW...

heres her latest mod!! just got her back today!!

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3976/vertex1xj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and it doubles as an ice maker!!!!

beers :beer:
It depends on if the air temps are lower, I pulled 15 deg of ambiant with the ice maker by the way, wasnt enough to reach my goals, im shooting for 30.

It depends on if the air temps are lower, I pulled 15 deg of ambiant with the ice maker by the way, wasnt enough to reach my goals, im shooting for 30.

good job moon..

will be down before to long to say hi..


beers :beer:

very well done pat.. looks wack!!!!

beers :beer:




just so you guys know that the shinks is not ALL GO and NO SHOW...

heres her latest mod!! just got her back today!!

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3976/vertex1xj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

just so you guys know that the shinks is not ALL GO and NO SHOW...

heres her latest mod!! just got her back today!!

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3976/vertex1xj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


looks awesome shinka - I could never have a kit that low - would get wiped out the first time I went out the drive .

the kit is not as low as it looks...
the road is curved up in the middle...
she actually has more clearance now than the lip that was on before...prolly an inch more...
i still dont do speed bumps..

:D:

i still dont do speed bumps..

:D:
we call them speed humps - just FYI :)

arrrr,

speed humps.

beers :beer:

arrrr,

speed humps.

beers :beer:

not a whole lot of room in the 8 for speed humps!! :naughty:

Roland, im gona kick your ass, lol, na its a evap. that got a tight squeeze. Gona try to eliminate the tank, pump, and heat exchangers, water. A cooler charge temp is always great.

Sterling...

Seek ye a sporting goods store moon...Coleman makes the turn key part you need...

Requires dismantling the cooler...but it works like a champ...

Thats a Evap out of a Geo, im plumbing it strait into the AC system, weve already run 2 evaps in one system on the RX-7 limo so we now it works.

Car Is running real good just a little hesitant on the initial throttle response on first.

Car Is running real good just a little hesitant on the initial throttle response on first.

Cam can tune that out fairly quickly

Hes flashed.

Hes flashed.

Whoops, got that one wrong - I saw in his signature that he still has the X so I just assumed.............I'm jealous.

You should be the fans are coming on sooner. Smoother through the whole power band and I am getting better mpg.

lol

The hesitation is very very minor. The Int-X worked good I never had any issues with it. I like the flash better. Like I stated earlier the smoothness is amazing.

me next please??

Drive your car down here woman, thats the only way at this point. Also phill, as soon as I patch mine back together to have a test mule, your gold on the flash. I have parts on the way and I have to send it to the frame shop. If we have to drive it around with fenders missing we will, lol.

Flash Flash News Flash !!!!!!

Flash Flash News Flash !!!!!!

yep,

aint it cool.

beers :beer:

It sucks that you have to turn your traction off dosnt it, any cells yet anyone who has the flash, you now who you are. There are 5 out there. Mr break it if you can, I mean Roland how many miles on your car pre flash and post flash? What are your thoughts, be serios, these are things to take into consideration for another even better flash. The only shortcomming is not nowing the charge temps.

So you're saying the flash performs better than the X?

In my case it does. The car feels better and I have the fans turning on sooner which I couldn't do with the X. The issue I was having with the decel (fuel being dumped causing space shuttle flames) is gone.

My mileage on S/C 10,600 with the X
My mileage on S/C 1,700 with the Pettit Flash

It is a little hesitate on 1st with the initial throttle response. Would be nice to have the Traction control off and turn it on manually. Only other thing I would like is to advance the timing just a little.

On a different note I need to check my A/C belt it's squeaking.

It looks a little lean on the dyno sheet down in the lower RPMs WOT. Ill see if we can add a point or a point and a half. Have you tryed a fast roll on with the same affect?

Yup same effect pn the fast roll. I have to have the revs up and slip the clutch a little not to get the hesitation.

Drive your car down here woman, thats the only way at this point. Also phill, as soon as I patch mine back together to have a test mule, your gold on the flash. I have parts on the way and I have to send it to the frame shop. If we have to drive it around with fenders missing we will, lol.

Perfect News

Drive your car down here woman, thats the only way at this point. Also phill, as soon as I patch mine back together to have a test mule, your gold on the flash. I have parts on the way and I have to send it to the frame shop. If we have to drive it around with fenders missing we will, lol.

i told ya - i aint gonna drive her down there...i just got a new kit put on it and i really dont have the time off from work...

boooo hooooo!!

Drive your car down here woman, thats the only way at this point. Also phill, as soon as I patch mine back together to have a test mule, your gold on the flash. I have parts on the way and I have to send it to the frame shop. If we have to drive it around with fenders missing we will, lol.

Does the "drive your car down" offer apply to me too?

I live 12hrs away, so I'm going to wait untill you guys have the kinks on the flash ironed out. Must be nice to talk to Cam face to face whenever you have an issue.

I live 12hrs away, so I'm going to wait untill you guys have the kinks on the flash ironed out. Must be nice to talk to Cam face to face whenever you have an issue.

How would you like to live 36 hours away? Cam is always available though. Just takes a little longer to fix.

Shink, we can tape up the front end and, since I am a "professional" driver now, I'd be happy to carefully drive your car down to FL and back for you. I need to see some peeps in FL anyway so it would work out well for all of us. I am serious.

Are you going to get close to NYC anytime soon ? :lol2:

hmm, FL ...

Is there any information regarding how much the flash is currently costing, or will cost?

Sad for me...I live about 1.5 hrs away from Pettit in Ft. Lauderdale but I can not afford the S/C. It's like having food waived infront of your face when your starving! LOL!!!

Anyways, This is all amazing news!!! :Eyecrazy:

Shink, we can tape up the front end and, since I am a "professional" driver now, I'd be happy to carefully drive your car down to FL and back for you. I need to see some peeps in FL anyway so it would work out well for all of us. I am serious.

If she does hire you, we can meet up on I-95 and I'll race you down to the shop. Last one there buys the beer!

Can I come over here and lerk :dark: I crossed sowards with a turbo fanbois in another thread and I hope I'm welcome here. I promise not to start anything:)

lol ur more than welcome
what thread can I go stir up S$$%T to?
LMFAO!!!

lol ur more than welcome
what thread can I go stir up S$$%T to?
LMFAO!!!
Well he (backed down) had a change of heart, it was the FI!!! thread in major hp section. I'm glad I have a place to come home to.:grouphug: :)

how did you find the car when you got back. A little birdie told me it was runing quite good.

Our little birdie called me on Saturday and told me he had my car running better than any a/t he has work on. I was ecstatic. I received another call Sunday afternoon with a good news / bad news scenario. It seems that our little birdie decided that he would make a final check of everything and somewhere in the process the computer crashed and during the panic, lost the tune. With a cab waiting, he got the tune somewhat back (acceptable) but not where it was. A whole slew of small items were done also (I'm still discovering little things he did). While I'm OK with it, Cam was all over himself about the loss of the tune.

I understand that Moon's car is not completely toast and they are going to resurrect it. They tell me that they are doing something that will help me. I hope it's a flash but if not I can wait.

How's your hesitation? Make me jealous, tell me something about the flash. Did you remove the X?? Oh well your most likely sworn to secrecy. Ya I know what flash.

No more CELs beyond the one I got driving home from FL for running rich in bank 1. I've put about 300miles on it since but I haven't been on the interstate for any long range driving so I can't say if it would happen again or not. I would like for both fans to turn on sooner though if you're taking any recommendations.

The ONLY reason Pat would let me drive her car would be because she knows she can trust me when I promise not to beat on it or race it.:)

I wouldn't want Momma Bear to be mad at me.

I will definitely keep that in mind....
hmmm...what would paradox charge for that...or better yet...maybe ray would consider it a privilege to drive it down??

:D:

Ray...
i will keep that in mind!!
:)

I have some boxes in my game room!!
ray I spoke with Chas/Allen today==sorry I couldnt make it--sick and dying people have a way of not understanding that you need some time off.
OD

Jon, I get that 172 code like you did. I wonder if there is anything in common, even though I am N/A(?).

Pat, the place in question to where I would drive and I have a few things to discuss so it would have been a trip I would have taken anyway. What's the round-trip airfare from Det. to FL? As far as paying me to drive your car down and back, that's not something I had planned on billing you for as I have much to gain from the rest of the trip.

Under what conditions are you getting it? Here's mine. After long highway driving at 75+ mph, pretty much a full tank's worth, I'd stop for gas and turn car off. When I'd restart it, it would start right up but when I would go and stop for the first time, the rpms dropped, and the car would stumble and stall. The one time I gave it some gas to try and keep the rpms up, I got the CEL and then it stalled. After a couple turn-offs and restarts when this happened, the car would act normal. That was on the way home from FL. Just driving it here with some 50 mile spirited drives, it acts normal.

Weird, watch your A/F if it ever does it again.

You might want to look at your LTFT and STFT also...

Is it still doing it? Might be bad gas also.

The AFR was showing in the 10s when it did it, so when I got the CEL, I figured it was for being too rich. It did the stalling thing all 3 times I filled up on the way home from FL. Like I said, it hasn't done it since I've been back, but I haven't been on a long drive like that.

Hmmm, odd. Atleast its not doing it anymore. If you have any problems call the shop, im headed down to the keys to kill some big fish, ill see you guys when I get back.

I'll be changing my oil to 20w50 next week. What brand of oil and filter are you guys and gal using??

K&n

I'll be changing my oil to 20w50 next week. What brand of oil and filter are you guys and gal using??

rp oil - k&n filter

The rp is synthetic right?? If so, i'd like to keep using non-syn because that is all I have ever put in the crankcase.

Jon, I get that 172 code like you did. I wonder if there is anything in common, even though I am N/A(?).

you using the int-x? 172 is normal with it. If I don't go into boost, I don't get it. If I boost, I get it within 5 minutes. So if you're NA and you get it, it sounds like you should lean it out more since even the stock car doesn't get it and it run damn rich.

Ray...
i will keep that in mind!!
:)

Pat,

Get your car to DC around Nov. 16th and I'll drive it down for free!
I'm flying up to Arlington around that time(+/- a day or two) and will be following my daughter home(her in her Hyundai Accent), so we won't be setting any land speed records for sure! :lol2:

I'd even buy the gas! :Eyecrazy:

Turn around time would be like a week because then I would follow her back up to DC and then fly home.

And............I promise not to race Bastage from Melbourne down to the shop! :nono:
Sorry "G"............not in her sweet-ass car!

Dave

Yeah but he didn't say anything about me lolololol

When you guys come down let me know I take the drive up.

Mazurfer bring your daughters car to I'm sure Cam could put an S/C on it.lololol

Yeah but he didn't say anything about me lolololol

When you guys come down let me know I take the drive up.

Mazurfer bring your daughters car to I'm sure Cam could put an S/C on it.lololol

Yeah.......then we'll go challenge Rodney King right? :lol2:
I am still on the fence about putting the S/C in my car and have been since May. I think about it daily and try to resist pulling the trigger.
It's one of those cases where I don't need it........but want it! :uhh:

do it.....do it.........do it.......do it

Yeah.......then we'll go challenge Rodney King right? :lol2:
I am still on the fence about putting the S/C in my car and have been since May. I think about it daily and try to resist pulling the trigger.
It's one of those cases where I don't need it........but want it! :uhh:

Hey Pat, I can vouche for Mazurfer; he's a pretty stand-up guy... and about racing your car from Melbourne down to Lake Park... I WAS KIDDING!

Mazurfer... I read recently in Florida Today that the company you've been working for since forever is posting record profits right now...

get the S/C

You deserve it :)

Hey Pat, I can vouche for Mazurfer; he's a pretty stand-up guy... and about racing your car from Melbourne down to Lake Park... I WAS KIDDING!

Mazurfer... I read recently in Florida Today that the company you've been working for since forever is posting record profits right now...

get the S/C

You deserve it :)

Never was a money issue.......you know that! :lol2:

My install is set for next weekend if no surprises come forward. i am sure I will have some questions.
One thing in reading the install instructions is the map and maf work. I will be running the int x.
Pettit instructs to cut the intake temp wires from the maf and re route them back to themselves in the main harness. Says there is an intake temp sensor somewhere else but it never says where and what to do with it? I maybe missing something? Int x instructions tell me not to cut those wires.
So if someone could clarify that for me and the location of the map and where to hook it up (int x system)? Rest of it --will be work but dont see problems.
olddragger

My install is set for next weekend if no surprises come forward. i am sure I will have some questions.
One thing in reading the install instructions is the map and maf work. I will be running the int x.
Pettit instructs to cut the intake temp wires from the maf and re route them back to themselves in the main harness. Says there is an intake temp sensor somewhere else but it never says where and what to do with it? I maybe missing something? Int x instructions tell me not to cut those wires.
So if someone could clarify that for me and the location of the map and where to hook it up (int x system)? Rest of it --will be work but dont see problems.
olddragger

Calling Ray.............Calling Ray.
Might need one of those batman(errrrrr....trunk monkey) searchlight systems!

If all else fails.......PM "marsredr100"....aka "Juan", he did his own install and is quite knowledgeable.

Hey Pat, I can vouche for Mazurfer; he's a pretty stand-up guy... and about racing your car from Melbourne down to Lake Park... I WAS KIDDING!

Mazurfer... I read recently in Florida Today that the company you've been working for since forever is posting record profits right now...

get the S/C

You deserve it :)

Hey...BTW, my Racing Beat sways and endlinks should be in this week. Might be calling you and see if you have any install tips! Not sure when I will actually do it, kinda want to wait for a cold snap first. Oh, and my apologies for not calling you back last weekend.....was busy with a special lady friend!
It's no rush to get me back those cords, we'll make it happen at some point, don't worry about it.

[QUOTE=Charles R. Hill;2105329]Juan did a pretty sweet job.

The deal with the IAT wires is that you are just removing the sensor circuit from the factory MAF sensor and, instead, using them with the IAT sensor that is in the new intake manifold.

Roger That!

See new sensor location inside red circle.

i havent opened the entire kit yet--so i probably can see it when I do--but what harness plugs into the new itp?
OD

Hey...BTW, my Racing Beat sways and endlinks should be in this week. Might be calling you and see if you have any install tips! Not sure when I will actually do it, kinda want to wait for a cold snap first. Oh, and my apologies for not calling you back last weekend.....was busy with a special lady friend!
It's no rush to get me back those cords, we'll make it happen at some point, don't worry about it.

If you need an extra set of hands, let me know.

i havent opened the entire kit yet--so i probably can see it when I do--but what harness plugs into the new itp?
OD

You will need to cut the OEM ITP wires and a new (longer cable) included in the kit will added. This will in turn will hook up to the ITP located in the Pettit intake as noted in my last post.

Yeh, you want to now what the temps are after compresion and intercooling. Thats the only thing that sucks about the flash, you go back to the stock sensor. So if your charge temps go to high like if you ran out of I/C coolent or the I/C pump fails, you run the risk of high charge temps and no reduction of ignition timming.

^^^
Would it be that difficult to place the MAF/IAT as blow through instead of draw? Then you would get the post IC readings...

^^^
Would it be that difficult to place the MAF/IAT as blow through instead of draw? Then you would get the post IC readings...

We havent tryed with the flash yet. We did get temp readings through the obd but flow readings were all messed up. Thats why when we ran the Emanage early on we had it on the boosted side.

What needs to happen is to come up with better methods to replace the complexity of the sensors...

But that is outside of the scope of this thread...

I was just thinking about that today too..."There has to be a better way"...

Moon are you going to try what you mentioned the dissassembly of a stock sensor and create a new one from it just to check the temp.

module in this week----install this weekend:101384_l: :101384_l:
Sure I will run into some ?--but looking good.
OD

Moon are you going to try what you mentioned the dissassembly of a stock sensor and create a new one from it just to check the temp.

It seems like the MAF sensor is a chip of its own so that idea may be impossible.

Yeh, you want to now what the temps are after compresion and intercooling. Thats the only thing that sucks about the flash, you go back to the stock sensor. So if your charge temps go to high like if you ran out of I/C coolent or the I/C pump fails, you run the risk of high charge temps and no reduction of ignition timming.

Just for my own sake I installed an Air Temperature Sensor in the Pettit SC intake manifold (90 degrees from the Pettit AIT sensor location) past the intercooler and just before the lower intake manifold. I had to drill and tap a hole for the additional sensor and it allows me to monitor the charged air temperature with a digital gauge located in the middle of my RB gauge panel. So far I’m getting 98 to 108 temps while driving and 125 to 138 while in heavy traffic. Keep in mind that my intake setup is set for outside the engine bay air and we are still in the high 80s to low 90s temps in Florida. Therefore I assume that it might be a bit higher for the engine bay air filter setup. :)

those are not bad temps at all. I wonder what the inlet temps are compaired to the charge. Are they ambient? You can be surprised at the heat soak by the time the air gets past the TB. Speaking of which i am rerouting the heater hose that go by the back firewall--damn thing gets really hot and right by the intake.
It would be a good graph for the efficentcy of the A/W intercooler?
olddragger

I just posted a few new videos and pictures in the multimedia section:

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=2105666#post2105666