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shinka213
12-25-2007, 10:06 PM
Wow. You are an asshole.
Oh well, Happy Holidays, anyway. To everyone.

seriously Jeff....what was under your tree?
any cool gifts?

MazdaManiac
12-25-2007, 10:20 PM
Well, being an atheist raised in a secular-Jewish household would limit my "tree" experience, but we exchanged some pretty cool stuff around here a few weeks ago - most of it not car-related since the rest of the year is about that.
A bunch of X-Box360 games, a drill press, some 21-year-old Glenlivet, etc..

shinka213
12-25-2007, 10:30 PM
nice

im already looking for some more games for my Wii.....it came with the sports package... bowling, tennis, golf, baseball, boxing...

its a pretty cool game...i can see how you could put a hole in your tv if the controller wasnt attached to your hand...

:rollingla

shinka213
12-25-2007, 10:31 PM
Well, being an atheist raised in a secular-Jewish household would limit my "tree" experience, but we exchanged some pretty cool stuff around here a few weeks ago - most of it not car-related since the rest of the year is about that.
A bunch of X-Box360 games, a drill press, some 21-year-old Glenlivet, etc..

do you celebrate hannakuh? (sp??)

marsredr100
12-25-2007, 10:33 PM
A bit late but nevertheless enjoy the vid. :eyetwitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tkBfp0BAq8

erx8s
12-25-2007, 10:47 PM
Well, being an atheist raised in a secular-Jewish household would limit my "tree" experience, but we exchanged some pretty cool stuff around here a few weeks ago - most of it not car-related since the rest of the year is about that.
A bunch of X-Box360 games, a drill press, some 21-year-old Glenlivet, etc..

Jeff , with your sense of humour you will appreciate this .

weeweechu

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It's a romantic full moon, when Pedro said, 'Hey, mamacita, let's do Weeweechu.'

Oh no, not now, let's look at the moon!' said Rosita.

Oh, c'mon baby, let's you and I do Weeweechu. I love you and it's the perfect time,' Pedro begged.

'But I wanna just hold your hand and watch the moon.'replied Rosita.

Please, Corazoncito, just once, do Weeweechu with me.'Rosita looked at Pedro and said, 'OK, one time, we'll do Weeweechu.'Pedro grabbed his guitar and they both sang.....

'Weeweechu a Merry Christmas, Weeweechu a Merry Christmas, Weeweechu a Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year.'



All the best to everyone who has entertained me on this Forum for the year

Cheers
Michael

MazdaManiac
12-25-2007, 10:57 PM
do you celebrate hannakuh? (sp??)

No.
Its sad to me how the commercial channels have hooked the population into their marketing by equivocating spiritual/religious sentiment with gift giving/purchasing.
Its not just Christmas, either.
Just think how pleased Jesus would be at the spectacle of a modern Christmas.
I bet he would have opted out of the resurrection bit entirely...

We shouldn't allow Hallmark/DeBeers/WalMart to dictate our generosity, let alone our spiritualism.

Mike - Thanks for that! Chag Sameach!

swoope
12-25-2007, 11:17 PM
A bit late but nevertheless enjoy the vid. :eyetwitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tkBfp0BAq8


:):):)

beers :beer:

Charles R. Hill
12-25-2007, 11:21 PM
That alky install looks familiar in where things are placed.

MazdaManiac
12-25-2007, 11:32 PM
That alky install looks familiar in where things are placed.
A little bit.

morkusyambo
12-25-2007, 11:33 PM
How so??

Bastage
12-26-2007, 10:48 AM
Wow. You are an asshole.
Oh well, Happy Holidays, anyway. To everyone.

Thanks, man.

shinka213
12-26-2007, 10:56 AM
what was under your tree Bastage?

Bastage
12-26-2007, 11:10 AM
what was under your tree Bastage?

For me, clothes. I did get the AFE Short Shifter, and I guess you could say the flash was a present to myself.

Otherwise, most of the gifts under the tree were for my kids, with a purse and some random stuff for the wife.

olddragger
12-26-2007, 06:43 PM
I agree with MM ---commercialism has ruined the holiday. My teenage children get angry at me because I do not allow them to buy me anything---they have to make it. I refuse to shop at Christmas.
It is a frightening thing that people can be manipulated so easily. We have been brainwashed into thinking that buying each other gifts is the proper way to celebrate the birth of Jesus.
oscd

MazdaManiac
12-26-2007, 07:05 PM
The correct way to celebrate the life of Jesus would be to give away personal possessions of true value to those in need, wouldn't it?
Having your kids make their gifts is an excellent way to instill a sense of value.
Its much more difficult to give away something you put yourself into or value personally than to just buy something.

eviltwinkie
12-26-2007, 07:12 PM
The correct way to celebrate the life of Jesus would be to give away personal possessions of true value to those in need, wouldn't it?
Having your kids make their gifts is an excellent way to instill a sense of value.
Its much more difficult to give away something you put yourself into or value personally than to just buy something.

Strange you should say that...my best friend still makes me a card to this day every year...its the one present i value above all others...

olddragger
12-26-2007, 07:19 PM
Careful---we are all starting to agree! JK:)
MM cant agree with you more. only one other thing to add. A person has really discovered something when then can give away that thing of personnel valve to another in need and then---- feel really good about it. As MM says that is true giving.
Merry Christmas all and Happy new Year
oscd

Charles R. Hill
12-26-2007, 07:34 PM
One of the things I do with my kids is take them shopping for the same stuff that I am supposed to get them as a normal part of parenting. It's the time spent together, casually strolling around the mall, that really counts for us holiday or not.

MazdaManiac
12-26-2007, 07:51 PM
Careful---we are all starting to agree! JK:)
MM cant agree with you more. only one other thing to add. A person has really discovered something when then can give away that thing of personnel valve to another in need and then---- feel really good about it. As MM says that is true giving.
Merry Christmas all and Happy new Year
oscd

A very Zen approach, Denny. Ultimately, it is the abandonment of possession that brings total peace. But who the hell want to go on without all the stuff!?!

We all DO agree. Its just my passion for the subject that chafes people and keeps them from seeing the logic in my assertions.
If you go back and look at the substance of everything I've put forward (with the obvious exception of pointing out what a huge prick Bastage actually is), you'll see its all for the enhancement of the Pettit experience, not the detriment.

morkusyambo
12-26-2007, 09:23 PM
A very Zen approach, Denny. Ultimately, it is the abandonment of possession that brings total peace. But who the hell want to go on without all the stuff!?!

We all DO agree. Its just my passion for the subject that chafes people and keeps them from seeing the logic in my assertions.
If you go back and look at the substance of everything I've put forward (with the obvious exception of pointing out what a huge prick Bastage actually is), you'll see its all for the enhancement of the Pettit experience, not the detriment.

I disagree! None of this is a "Zen" approach. Haven't you read any of his posts?:bootyshak

MazdaManiac
12-26-2007, 10:17 PM
I disagree! None of this is a "Zen" approach. Haven't you read any of his posts?:bootyshak

LOL. No, I meant the gift giving part! Not the ham-fisted, "Why ain't this thing carburetted?!?" parts.

Charles R. Hill
12-26-2007, 10:54 PM
Here we go again.........:)

shinka213
12-27-2007, 12:19 AM
vitaveetavegimen!!!

Charles R. Hill
12-27-2007, 12:25 AM
Lucy!!

Bastage
12-27-2007, 12:29 AM
Your insults to Moon among others basically negate any contributions you've made (not that I can think of any). Let's not forget your feeble attempt at discrediting a dyno sheet provided by Pettit (I never saw you admit fault/stupidity there), and all of the other times you just made !@#$ up.

I think you're just insanely jealous of the success Pettit is seeing, and you wish you were Moon. You'd trade everything you own to be in Moon's shoes right now (in spite of the fact that it's a small miracle he can even walk in them). Oh, and you're right, he can't spell worth a !@#$, big !@#$ing deal. You can't multiply and divide, which is worse?

Furthermore, even though you've called me a huge prick and an asshole, I still love you :) You've made me laugh more often than you probably realize. Also, sticks and stones, and all that :wiggle:

MazdaManiac
12-27-2007, 12:34 AM
I did chuckle.
You should come over the the "Boost Atheists" thread. Fun stuff over there.

Your insults to Moon among others basically negate any contributions you've made

BTW - Moon came out of the blue this time around. He didn't even threaten me first. Oh well. If a tree falls in the woods...

shinka213
12-27-2007, 12:35 AM
Lucy!!

that could be a relapse issue for me!!!

:rollingla

munche187
12-27-2007, 04:32 PM
Lucy!!

I'm Home!!!!

MazdaManiac
12-27-2007, 05:23 PM
I always wanted a gig at Ricky's club.
Looked cool. Smoking, drinking, playing Merengue and Salsa.

zoom44
12-27-2007, 07:15 PM
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7609/pc250164xy7.jpg

yeah see that should not be in your rx-8

MazdaManiac
12-27-2007, 08:01 PM
Mazda stopped putting a "beam" on the OE leading plugs. There is a good reason for that.

munche187
12-27-2007, 08:21 PM
^^^Mazda those cheap skates I want my beam back.
lolollolol

MazdaManiac
12-27-2007, 08:43 PM
If you are lucky, one of the '04 owners can probably pull one for you.
Out of one of their scrapped rotor housings...

california style
12-28-2007, 07:31 AM
blimey... what happened? Why did they change spark plugs? Whats the diferences?

shinka213
12-28-2007, 09:50 AM
at the risk of sounding totally non-mechanical....and of course i havent a clue...

the beam looks like it could pop off easily...while inside the rotor housing....which in any case...wouldnt be good??????
help me out here jeff...

waiting with bated breath...........

Charles R. Hill
12-28-2007, 11:00 AM
Don't worry, Shink, your rep is still intact.:lol2:

olddragger
12-28-2007, 11:00 AM
that beam IS fragile in the earier issues of the ngk. One broke with me while gapping unexpectively. Course the plug in the picture is hitting the rotor. Tis aint good.
oldscdragger

Charles R. Hill
12-28-2007, 11:03 AM
There are actually two issues of concern when trying to gap these plugs; the first is the relatively brittle ground strap. The second is the Iridium that is on the tip of the electrode. It isn't that difficult to knock it off, so be careful. That's why I clean my plugs with an old toothbrush and not a metal brush.

mazsportmantis
12-28-2007, 04:23 PM
There are actually two issues of concern when trying to gap these plugs; the first is the relatively brittle ground strap. The second is the Iridium that is on the tip of the electrode. It isn't that difficult to knock it off, so be careful. That's why I clean my plugs with an old toothbrush and not a metal brush.

or you could just but nother' set....:uhh:

Charles R. Hill
12-28-2007, 04:47 PM
I clean 'em and re-use em several times before they are wasted. F/I apps might be a different story.

mazsportmantis
12-28-2007, 05:08 PM
if they look like this, replace them...

Charles R. Hill
12-28-2007, 05:25 PM
That looks "yucky" but how are the edges of the electrodes? I can't see 'em. Is the gap larger due to electrode wear?

MazdaManiac
12-28-2007, 05:25 PM
if they look like this, replace them...

If they look like that, you've got bigger problems!

mazsportmantis
12-28-2007, 05:36 PM
ha ha ha!

Red Devil
12-28-2007, 05:50 PM
I agree with MM ---commercialism has ruined the holiday. My teenage children get angry at me because I do not allow them to buy me anything---they have to make it. I refuse to shop at Christmas.
It is a frightening thing that people can be manipulated so easily. We have been brainwashed into thinking that buying each other gifts is the proper way to celebrate the birth of Jesus.
oscd

Not trying to really pick at you others have expressed the same sentiments in this thread...but for HUNDREDS of years this has been a complaint throughout Western society and within literature. It happened when you were a child, and it was happening multiple generations before you.

Most do not care about the birth of Jesus. Yeah, it's Christmas and perhaps they should. But signs of compassion - such as gift giving to others - is basically tradition. And giving to neighbors and community is a direct outlet of the church's themselves, which whether you're Protestant, Orthodox or Catholic at root exist for the benefit of the community.

olddragger
12-28-2007, 06:45 PM
I understand what you are saying and i have totally agree with you that a gift when given with COMPASSION is a way of growth and celebrating , if you will, some principles that Jesus preached. Nothing wrong with tradition either, when the tradition makes sense. What I refer too is the mindless buying without compassion, the acceptance without true thanks, the so called 'pressure" that others try and place on you to buy, the celebration of the season and the the name Jesus is never even mentioned etc.
Now i understand and see and participate in giving with compassion through various groups I associate with---the family in which their Mother died of cancer, the family who's house burned down, the solders overseas,etc. All of that type of compassion and giving is a great thing. It also should and it does happen more than once a year.
But I be damned if I am going to buy my teenage daughters an I Phone(for example) for Christmas just because it is the latest and greatest. THAT type of giving along with all the office parties, the neighborhood parties, and the pressure to buy,buy, buy is what I speak of.
get back to the real spirit of Christmas, celebrate family, adopt a family or person down on their luck, help build a home for someone, deliver a meal to an elder that physically is unable to leave their home, help serve meals at the salvation army, give of yourself--dont take the easy way out and just BUY something.
oldscdragger

MazdaManiac
12-28-2007, 07:57 PM
^^ Well said. Off topic :), but well said.

Red Devil
12-29-2007, 08:18 PM
I understand what you are saying and i have totally agree with you that a gift when given with COMPASSION is a way of growth and celebrating , if you will, some principles that Jesus preached. Nothing wrong with tradition either, when the tradition makes sense. What I refer too is the mindless buying without compassion, the acceptance without true thanks, the so called 'pressure" that others try and place on you to buy, the celebration of the season and the the name Jesus is never even mentioned etc.
Now i understand and see and participate in giving with compassion through various groups I associate with---the family in which their Mother died of cancer, the family who's house burned down, the solders overseas,etc. All of that type of compassion and giving is a great thing. It also should and it does happen more than once a year.
But I be damned if I am going to buy my teenage daughters an I Phone(for example) for Christmas just because it is the latest and greatest. THAT type of giving along with all the office parties, the neighborhood parties, and the pressure to buy,buy, buy is what I speak of.
get back to the real spirit of Christmas, celebrate family, adopt a family or person down on their luck, help build a home for someone, deliver a meal to an elder that physically is unable to leave their home, help serve meals at the salvation army, give of yourself--dont take the easy way out and just BUY something.
oldscdragger

No real argument with anything you've written. I feel the same way, for the most part. Iphone example, philanthropic endeavors, etc... - perfect.

Alway seems to me 10 months out of the year we, as a collective (not naming you or anyone else in particular), are all "buy, buy, buy" and then Christmas comes and there is a lot of backlash against the very system we support and embrace for the majority of the year. A system, that again, right or wrong has been in place for centuries. I could go on at length, as I'm sure could others...but really no point.

Anyway, enough threadjacking...happy New Year all...:)

olddragger
12-29-2007, 08:38 PM
Thanks RD and you are right --this could go on and on. Happy new year to you and yours also!
oldscdragger

RX4+4=8
12-30-2007, 01:12 PM
anybody selling their int-x?
let me know

zenrx8
12-30-2007, 01:29 PM
I disagree! None of this is a "Zen" approach. Haven't you read any of his posts?:bootyshak

Ahhh, the warm fuzzy feeling you get knowing that you've wormed your way into the hearts of your fellow man, whether they admit to it or not :lol:

shinka213
12-30-2007, 02:38 PM
welcome zen....to the pettit super chargers club...

:D:

PS...ive been successfully flashed

:naughty:

olddragger
12-30-2007, 04:13 PM
I will have one for sale in a couple of weeks.
oldscdragger

shinka213
12-30-2007, 05:10 PM
yeah!!!!

OSCD is getting flashed.....you will NOT be sowry!!!
:naughty:

olddragger
12-30-2007, 06:53 PM
Tell me more!
oscd

shinka213
12-30-2007, 07:15 PM
hubba hubba hubba!!!

you will be soooooooooo smooth that the ladies wont be able to resist..

olddragger
12-30-2007, 07:41 PM
Oh Jeez---i have too much of that already:blue:
oldscdragger

Phil's 8
12-30-2007, 07:49 PM
Oh Jeez---i have too much of that already:blue:
oldscdragger
LOL!!!!:bsmeter:

MazdaManiac
12-30-2007, 08:22 PM
LOL. We can always count on Shinka for concise, detailed and technical descriptions.

shinka213
12-30-2007, 08:31 PM
^^
exactly....i have to be so freakin technical, precise and professional at work...the forum is where i can let loose....

:naughty:

MazdaManiac
12-30-2007, 08:35 PM
I think you should let your descriptive abilities - as they reveal themselves on the forum - carry over into your work. Hilarity ensues...

shinka213
12-30-2007, 08:55 PM
I think you should let your descriptive abilities - as they reveal themselves on the forum - carry over into your work. Hilarity ensues...

i do that from time to time...:lol2:

marsredr100
12-30-2007, 10:05 PM
Shinka...why is Santa Claus still driving your 8? Is he enjoying the flash as much as you do? :eyetwitch

shinka213
12-30-2007, 10:45 PM
im waiting till the new year....perhaps a new avatar is in the wind...:uhh:

marsredr100
12-31-2007, 10:21 PM
I just ordered the following BeatRush parts from GummyGrip in Las Vegas, Nevada 702-457-7278

BeatRush Center Transmission Bracing
BeatRush Rear Differential Support Brackets
BeatRush Aluminum Under Panel

I talked to Matt the owner of GummyGrip and he was more than helpful with my order. Matt shipped and email me the shipping tracking number the very next day. Great customer service I might add is a big plus in the automobile business.

My BeatRush parts are do next week and I will be posting pictures of the parts, installation pictures, weight of parts and overall handling experience/improvements.

Also, next month I will be ordering the BeatRush Rear Arm Performance Bracing

Happy New Year Pettit Racing SC owners and may new year bring you more happy SC RX8 driving miles. :eyetwitch

shinka213
12-31-2007, 10:26 PM
happy new year all!!

Phil's 8
01-01-2008, 12:56 AM
happy new year all!!

+1 :smiley309

Japan8
01-01-2008, 02:39 AM
nice

im already looking for some more games for my Wii.....it came with the sports package... bowling, tennis, golf, baseball, boxing...

its a pretty cool game...i can see how you could put a hole in your tv if the controller wasnt attached to your hand...

:rollingla

Wish I could find one (not at e-bay prices)... :(

shinka213
01-01-2008, 09:30 AM
Wish I could find one (not at e-bay prices)... :(

i got mine on ebay...luckily didnt pay that much more than retail....just a couple bucks....

i think it was worth it... :lol: although i didnt pay for it anyway...

olddragger
01-01-2008, 09:50 AM
Bracing from Beatrush---I may need to look at that.
oscd

zenrx8
01-01-2008, 11:15 AM
welcome zen....to the pettit super chargers club...

:D:

PS...ive been successfully flashed

:naughty:


So, Shinka, tell us how it feels to be flashed. I lost track of what you were using for engine management before. I had mine out last night and still can't believe how smooth this thing is. It's like a liter-class motorcycle masquerading as a car.
And I haven't installed the new hi-flow cat yet.

olddragger
01-02-2008, 07:48 PM
anyone know what kind of a/f's and timing the flash has? Is the flash designed to use WITH the methanol system or is the methanol system a true option?
Reason I am asking is I dont want to run the methanol but I dont want the a/f and timing close to the edge --so to speak. It probably isnt---sure cam designed enough safe guard in it--but no harm in asking?
oldscdragger

shinka213
01-02-2008, 08:21 PM
OSCD

i dont think the flash was designed specifically to work with the meth...as they had been doing the R&D on the flash for quite sometime prior to the meth....

i dont need the methanol....no alcohol for me, it made my life unmanageable.... :rollingla ...dont wanna go off the wagon at this point...:Eyecrazy:

i would check with Juan...he seems to be runnin ok...

Razz1
01-02-2008, 08:22 PM
I will have one for sale in a couple of weeks.
oldscdragger

What! ??

Your not going to use it with the SC.

olddragger
01-02-2008, 10:37 PM
Going with the flash--found out that running without a cat is ok with it. That was one of my concerns.
Thanks Shinka---I had not thought of it that way. Makes sense--no etoh for me either!
oscd

morkusyambo
01-02-2008, 11:26 PM
All of this no alcohol business sounds like new years resolutions to me, and we all know how those allways turn out.

Dogpound48
01-02-2008, 11:30 PM
Well finally decided to pull the trigger today. Will have everything in hand next week and should have it installed within the next month. I'll take my time since I haven't even taken my car out since Thanksgiving. I'm really excited and looking forward to making my car everything I wanted.

Does anyone have any suggestions on additional items needed? I plan on getting the RB gauge pod and am still undecided in the gauges I'll be putting in.

shinka213
01-02-2008, 11:38 PM
Well finally decided to pull the trigger today. Will have everything in hand next week and should have it installed within the next month. I'll take my time since I haven't even taken my car out since Thanksgiving. I'm really excited and looking forward to making my car everything I wanted.

Does anyone have any suggestions on additional items needed? I plan on getting the RB gauge pod and am still undecided in the gauges I'll be putting in.

ive got the rb gauge pod..

autometer cobalt series...
1. boost/vac
2. digital wideband (A/F)
3. water temp


PS...welcome to the club!!
i'll post a pic if you need one..
:D:

Phil's 8
01-03-2008, 07:27 AM
Welcome Dogpound 48

olddragger
01-03-2008, 12:52 PM
Welcome Dog!
I self installed also--pm if i can be of help. Gauge choice probably depends on what you are doing with the car and what info you want. Since I track several times a year i got the lotek center pod (rb was too low for me)and the classic 3 gauges of water temp, oil temp and pressure. Many choices out there. But, I would HIGHLY recommend oil and water temp gauges at the very least.
oldscdragger

shinka213
01-03-2008, 07:04 PM
its official....the shinx will be on display in the tuner section at the Philly Auto show..

im really excited for the public to view the SC....im sure there will be nice props for Pettit

:D:

zoom44
01-03-2008, 07:10 PM
nice going shinka:)

shinka213
01-03-2008, 07:12 PM
nice going shinka:)

thx :)

marsredr100
01-03-2008, 07:27 PM
its official....the shinx will be on display in the tuner section at the Philly Auto show..

im really excited for the public to view the SC....im sure there will be nice props for Pettit

:D:


You go girl...represent. :eyetwitch

olddragger
01-03-2008, 08:05 PM
Congrats Pat--show that black version off(plus a lot of other cool stuff you have)
oscd

Phil's 8
01-03-2008, 09:38 PM
its official....the shinx will be on display in the tuner section at the Philly Auto show..

im really excited for the public to view the SC....im sure there will be nice props for Pettit

:D:
Congradulations, Shinka

shinka213
01-03-2008, 10:23 PM
thanks guys..
means a lot to me!!

:kiss:

swoope
01-03-2008, 11:09 PM
thanks guys..
means a lot to me!!

:kiss:

good job.... any chance wheel get to you first?

beers :beer:

shinka213
01-03-2008, 11:28 PM
good job.... any chance wheel get to you first?

beers :beer:


na....wheels are 3 months out...
philly auto show is 1st week of february..
:sad:

Mazurfer
01-04-2008, 09:26 AM
Damn.would've been nice top have the new wheels on there, but congrats any way Pat. I'm sure the Shink will rep us all very well as always. :)

olddragger
01-05-2008, 09:56 AM
Well i am off to Florida tomorrow--- to get the flash Monday. Long trip but worth it. It will be good to meet in person the Pettit folks. Hell may as well pick up a radio Knob while i am there--go all out!
oldscdragger

morkusyambo
01-05-2008, 01:35 PM
Does Pettit have the new MAF tubes in stock now??

Mazurfer
01-05-2008, 01:41 PM
Well i am off to Florida tomorrow--- to get the flash Monday. Long trip but worth it. It will be good to meet in person the Pettit folks. Hell may as well pick up a radio Knob while i am there--go all out!
oldscdragger

Denny, I figure you'll be coming down I-75 at least until Orlando and then probably the turnpike down to Palm Beach?
Or..........you will you pop over to I-95(from Orlando) and then head South? Couple of us live in the Melbourne area which is South of Cape Kennedy by about 30 or so miles and about 90 miles North of Pettit.
Have a safe trip and if you decide to stop around Melbourne for some eats....let us know!
!

olddragger
01-05-2008, 04:55 PM
thanks! will do.
Cab said the RB maf pipe is fine to use. Have mine on now and all vacuum lines attached the recommended way.
I will probably go down and hit I 95. Guess i will be listening to a lot of tunes.
oscd

Bastage
01-05-2008, 10:27 PM
Definitely wouldn't mind meeting up with you somewhere tomorrow (I live about 10 miles from Mazurfer off of I-95)

Sent you a PM.

marsredr100
01-06-2008, 06:25 PM
Hey shinka,

Is that the guy who keeps your ride top notch or is it the other way around? :lol: :eyetwitch

shinka213
01-06-2008, 07:33 PM
^^ i keep my ride top notch....so you figure it out!!!

:naughty:

Dogpound48
01-06-2008, 10:50 PM
Does Pettit have the new MAF tubes in stock now??

I don't thinks so because they weren't sure of what they were going to do when I asked them about it.

olddragger
01-08-2008, 10:30 AM
I just got back from my trip from Macon Ga to Pettit last night.
For those in the know--I now have no cel and i have a tail. I also have a grin on my face about 2 miles wide. Gas mileage is about 20mpg now! Idle is better than stock. Power......welll maybe a little bit?:)
Cam's business is sure growing. Says he is shipping 2 kits out to Australia. Got his air installed.
I help him assess problems on a sweet 2nd gen 3 rotor (needed some heatshielding and i saw that the front pulley had a wobble(NOT GOOD) that a guy with an Australian accent brought in on a truck He wouldnt pay me a consultation fee however.......hehehehe.
He gave my install " thumbs up".
I saw the value of having the car for the flash rather than just seening in the ecu. There was about 4 RX8's there with the kit and we where taking all of them out to monitor the car's response---diag one with a leaking vacuum line(guy didnt have a clue he had a leak) that was causing the car to add too much fuel to compensate.
I can say with certainty now that ECU tuning is no longer a problem for any kind of kit. Cam and his "tuner" (Bill) have it figured out. End of story.
Car is MUCH more drivable. the int x wasnt bad now and i am not knocking it at all---that unit that Scott built started this entire thing and we couldnt be where we are today without it. But, now the car has a smoother throttle response in acceleration partial and full, and it idles steady at 1.1K---even with air on! stft, ltft barometric sensors, start up(cranks like a oem car now) all fully functional.
At the end of the day i took Bill back to his little shop and HOLY BE JESUS! Not only does he have Formula cars around(plus the one he owns and drives---would you believe a 1.2 min at Road Atlanta--4 G's in the corner and over 2400 lbs of downforce on a 1400lb car with approx 720 hp!! He had some track data and shoed me a part of it and where in my na rx8 i was running maybe 128---will he was hitting 180!! he was going faster through some turns than I am going on the straights! 180mph in an open cockpit car---wooooo.
Plus---would you believe a 1 rotor---thats right a one rotor--- shifter cart that is air cooled?
All in all --when it gets to the point in which you think you know a little you meet guys like this that show you exactly how much you do know.
oscd

MazdaManiac
01-08-2008, 12:57 PM
... and it idles steady at 1.1K---

So the way the turner got around the idle air bleed problem was to jack the idle up over 1k?

You are satisfied by this?

Bastage
01-08-2008, 01:26 PM
Judging by how the sentence was punctuated, it's pretty obvious that he is. What solution do you propose since you like to pretend to know more than Cam and Bill?

MazdaManiac
01-08-2008, 01:55 PM
Well, the right way to do it is to address the bypass valve and the throttle body duty cycle, which should be especially easy if they are flashing the PCM.
You don't find it interesting that the OEMs that use this blower don't have 1k+ RPM idles (a value that will fail it during an emission test in most states, btw)?

since you like to pretend to know more than Cam and Bill?

I know you meant that as an insult, but for obvious reasons, it is not.
Good to see the new year leaves you just as belligerent and servile as the preceding.

Bastage
01-08-2008, 03:20 PM
Nah, no insult (unless you felt insulted?). Just pointing out that yet again (for the same exact issue) you pointed and criticized, without being constructive.

If you want to be constructive, give Cam a call and let him know your thoughts. I'm sure he would love to hear from you.

olddragger
01-08-2008, 03:36 PM
very satisfied with the idle, i have always felt it was too low from the factory anyway. It is very smooth, very smooth.
oscd

MazdaManiac
01-08-2008, 03:54 PM
Historically, one of the fixes for a ported rotary was a substantial increase in idle speed.
The problem is your fuel consumption/HC output goes way up with that extra 300 RPM and I, like many others, would rather see the car behave like stock - especially when it isn't actually ported.


If you want to be constructive, give Cam a call and let him know your thoughts. I'm sure he would love to hear from you.

I am not going to personally benefit from that, so why would I tell Cam how to fix these things? My gain lies in pointing out these flaws and then fixing them myself.
Cam always adopts my fixes after he gets wind of them, anyway.

Bastage
01-08-2008, 04:18 PM
I am not going to personally benefit from that, so why would I tell Cam how to fix these things? My gain lies in pointing out these flaws and then fixing them myself.


Then wouldn't it personally benefit you to just STFU? That way you can continue to add to the mountains of cash you've made off of fixing all those Pettit SC customers' cars, right?


Cam always adopts my fixes after he gets wind of them, anyway.


I'm sure he'd very grateful if he knew that these fixes came from you, but I don't think he even knows you're alive.

MazdaManiac
01-08-2008, 05:10 PM
Then wouldn't it personally benefit you to just STFU? That way you can continue to add to the mountains of cash you've made off of fixing all those Pettit SC customers' cars, right?

No. No mountains of cash. Just a steady trickle of accolades.
I don't do things for the money. I'm retired.


I'm sure he'd very grateful if he knew that these fixes came from you, but I don't think he even knows you're alive.

I won't discount that they get filtered through Moon or someone similar (if there is such a thing), but where do you think the entire MAF solution came from?

Bastage
01-08-2008, 05:21 PM
No. No mountains of cash. Just a steady trickle of accolades.
I don't do things for the money. I'm retired.


Ahh, then I need to work on my reading comprehension:


As far as bias goes - why would I be biased against Pettit?
I'm making a small fortune on them. If they suddenly got their act together, I wouldn't be in such a position.
Just think about that before you fly off the handle again.

MazdaManiac
01-08-2008, 05:32 PM
Ahh, then I need to work on my reading comprehension:

Apparently. Not all of us measure our fortunes in cash.
Do the math on my GReddy upgrade and you'll see what I mean.

Charles R. Hill
01-08-2008, 05:34 PM
Some measure theirs in post numbers.:lol2:

Bastage
01-08-2008, 05:39 PM
Some measure theirs in post numbers.:lol2:

or in how high they can stack their own b.s.

;)

Charles R. Hill
01-08-2008, 05:43 PM
That's why I go back in the archives from time to time and delete my own posts. Clean out the nonsense every now and then. Of course, I know what you guys are thinking..........:)

MazdaManiac
01-08-2008, 05:43 PM
or in how high they can stack their own b.s.

;)

Well, since I've been spending my time pointing out what needs to be done and how and you spend a majority of your time trying to swing your balls over your shoulder, I think it is safe to say that your stack is considerably bigger, seeing how such swinging gives you better access to your anus.

Charles R. Hill
01-08-2008, 05:45 PM
......couldn't let it go, couldja?:nono:

MM, that comment made me remember "Biggus Dickus". Thx.

MazdaManiac
01-08-2008, 05:50 PM
......couldn't let it go, couldja?:nono:

Of course not. This is what I live for! On the internet, anyway.

MM, that comment made me remember "Biggus Dickus". Thx.

lol!
"I have a vewy gweat fwiend in Wome called 'Biggus Dickus'."

Charles R. Hill
01-08-2008, 05:59 PM
......and all the guards snickered uncontrollably! My son loved that scene.

morkusyambo
01-08-2008, 06:06 PM
20 mpg is good news. I'm currently getting @14 using the interceptor. I'm waiting for Cam to get the new MAF housings in before getting flashed.

Bastage
01-08-2008, 06:39 PM
Well, since I've been spending my time pointing out what needs to be done and how and you spend a majority of your time trying to swing your balls over your shoulder, I think it is safe to say that your stack is considerably bigger, seeing how such swinging gives you better access to your anus.

Actually, you spend your time pointing out what you think needs to be done to the sound of crickets, and then continuously pat yourself on the back about it. I actually spend a majority of my time working, enjoying my family/friends, and enjoying that awesomely reliable 300hp daily-driver of an RX-8 that I have...

As for the rest... while you do indeed paint a beautiful picture there, I'd prefer to think of it as giving you a whiff of your own crap. As much as I enjoy messing with you, only a boundless egomaniac such as you would think that anyone would spend a majority of their time breaking your balls; I assure you, it's not even a significant enough part of my life to be considered a hobby. BTW, what are you doing reading my posts? Didn't you claim to subscribe to sticking your head in the sand the last time I gave you a whiff?

Oh yeah... I spend some time sleeping too.

olddragger
01-08-2008, 06:40 PM
That is what i was getting also with the intx(base map). I think that is pretty typical of the base map.
You can go ahead and get the flash without that particular maf pipe--speak to Cam. I am using the Revi intake RB maf pipe. i added some vacuum access.
oscd

MazdaManiac
01-08-2008, 06:52 PM
Actually, you spend your time pointing out what you think needs to be done

Its not what I think. I don't own one of these things. Its not like I'm observing this stuff in my lab somewhere.

The pattern is thus:
I discuss the kits short comings.
You attack me rather than my ideas.
That outs you pretty effectively.
Then I get a bunch of entertaining e-mails about you and we start again.
I have a hard time leaving you on ignore because I get so many requests. How do you think my access to the Pettit threads got turned back on after your fan club asked to have me removed?

I really have a hard time believing that you really take your efforts so seriously or that you don't realize how transparent you are.

I don't sleep, so you have me there.

Bastage
01-08-2008, 08:54 PM
Its not what I think. I don't own one of these things. Its not like I'm observing this stuff in my lab somewhere.

The pattern is thus:
I discuss the kits short comings.
You attack me rather than my ideas.
That outs you pretty effectively.
Then I get a bunch of entertaining e-mails about you and we start again.
I have a hard time leaving you on ignore because I get so many requests.
This is how I see the pattern:

You make up some short-coming or make some insulting and undeserved statement directed towards people that I like and respect.
I expose it for the crap that it is with a smile on my face and a slow and steady pulse.
Then your cronies send you a bunch of entertaining e-mails about me.
Then you get your panties all in a bunch and either delete the thread OR whine about it and resort to name-calling OR send me some PM about how you're going to make me look bad, OR more whining.
I smile.


How do you think my access to the Pettit threads got turned back on after your fan club asked to have me removed?

I really have a hard time believing that you really take your efforts so seriously or that you don't realize how transparent you are.

I don't sleep, so you have me there.

I just said that I don't even take my own efforts seriously, and I'm not trying to hide anything, so what does transparency have to do with anything?

It's worth to note that in spite of the fact that several people have asked that you lose your rights to post in these threads, you very admittedly and disrespectfully continue to do so.... and I'm the transparent one?

MazdaManiac
01-08-2008, 09:35 PM
Wow, that option does make it a lot nicer in here!

eviltwinkie
01-08-2008, 10:36 PM
http://www.catwack.com/pics/906.jpg

Razz1
01-08-2008, 10:42 PM
Some measure theirs in post numbers.:lol2:

ahh.. and some measure theirs in how fast they can go in a straight line...

AKA Big Daddy Rat Fink.. Ha ha just joking.

Charles R. Hill
01-08-2008, 11:12 PM
I seemed to be pretty decent at going around turns, too, as recent as last week.

Razz1
01-08-2008, 11:19 PM
Cool.....

Got to be able to test those customer cars.

Charles R. Hill
01-08-2008, 11:35 PM
I am not at that stage yet. I am still just developing product.

Razz1
01-08-2008, 11:39 PM
Hay is your clutch bracket ready yet?

Charles R. Hill
01-08-2008, 11:41 PM
Mine's working great for me. Did you get yours yet?

Razz1
01-08-2008, 11:51 PM
Nah.........

marsredr100
01-09-2008, 09:48 PM
My BeatRush parts came in. :eyetwitch

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=2233041#post2233041

MazdaManiac
01-09-2008, 09:57 PM
My BeatRush parts came in. :eyetwitch

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=2233041#post2233041

Awesome.
The GG guy had contacted me about a "sponsorship" on those parts, but I had never seen them installed anywhere, so I balked.
They look great.
Let us know how they fit.

olddragger
01-09-2008, 10:51 PM
Awesome, shouldnt be anymore shifter movement during turning and acceleration now!
looks really good.
I am curious as to how the undertray is going to work out.
keep us posted--
rotor on
oscd

Razz1
01-09-2008, 11:10 PM
Yes, me too as it will keep heat in. Correct?

Force the heat uptowards the car?

ChattyRX8
01-10-2008, 02:28 AM
I've finally read this entire thread. It took me about 4 hours total (with bathroom breaks, etc...).
Anyway, I've learned 2 things:
1. I want FI
2. There are several members on this forum that act like children.

I'm also a member of a Honda CBR forum, and I've NEVER seen anyone over there fight like you people do.

eviltwinkie
01-10-2008, 02:36 AM
I'm also a member of a Honda CBR forum, and I've NEVER seen anyone over there fight like you people do.

Well statistically the lifespan of the members of a CBR forum can be caluclated by the number of posts they make...the higher the number, the lower the lifespan...

So, basically...they do not survive long enough to bicker...

heh

MazdaManiac
01-10-2008, 03:42 AM
I've finally read this entire thread. It took me about 4 hours total (with bathroom breaks, etc...).
Anyway, I've learned 2 things:
1. I want FI
2. There are several members on this forum that act like children.

I'm also a member of a Honda CBR forum, and I've NEVER seen anyone over there fight like you people do.

This thread is probably not a good place to establish your idea of how the RX-8 FI community communicates.
There is substantially more superstition than supercharging in here.

marsredr100
01-10-2008, 06:51 AM
Awesome.
The GG guy had contacted me about a "sponsorship" on those parts, but I had never seen them installed anywhere, so I balked.
They look great.
Let us know how they fit.

All BeatRush parts were bolt-on. No need to cut/bend/weld/drill/etc. No leftover OEM parts either. :eyetwitch

marsredr100
01-10-2008, 07:05 AM
Yes, me too as it will keep heat in. Correct?

Force the heat uptowards the car?

The BeatRush Aluminum Under Panel has a small opening towards the front and three slots/cuts just under the oil pan location. I drove the car this morning to work and I did not notice any changes in temperatures. I’m running a digital engine temperature gauge and it is easier (for me) to keep track on the engine temps. :eyetwitch

olddragger
01-10-2008, 08:34 AM
So -you are monitoring the engine bay temps?
That is the area am curious about.i didnt think the engine temp itself would change-just the engine bay. But it may not--it conceivability could get better. Really interested in the trans brace.
Thanks for sharing all this!
oscd

Mazurfer
01-10-2008, 06:41 PM
The BeatRush Aluminum Under Panel has a small opening towards the front and three slots/cuts just under the oil pan location. I drove the car this morning to work and I did not notice any changes in temperatures. I’m running a digital engine temperature gauge and it is easier (for me) to keep track on the engine temps. :eyetwitch

Juan,

You need to resize your pics to about 8x10 before you attach them as a thumbnail(via your own drive), cause when you click on them, they just open up at the same size.........Just for your information.

marsredr100
01-10-2008, 09:34 PM
Juan,

You need to resize your pics to about 8x10 before you attach them as a thumbnail(via your own drive), cause when you click on them, they just open up at the same size.........Just for your information.

Yes, sir. I made the correction, added more pixs and promise that it will not happen again. Ever! :eyetwitch

marsredr100
01-10-2008, 09:49 PM
I decided that if one methanol nozzle feels good……then two should better. Ahhhhh…:crazy:

Seriously, I added an additional meth nozzle to the upper intake (past the SC) for a double shot. The first nozzle is a 225 ml/min and the second is 100 ml/min. Both nozzle spray at the same time. Took the car for a short trip and did not notice anything wrong. I will be doing another dyno soon and with this setup I will be able to change nozzles location/meth before SC only/meth after SC only/simultaneous meth spray. Only a dyno will show the best combination or nozzle location. I hope.

Stay tune. :eyetwitch

Mazurfer
01-10-2008, 10:03 PM
Much better....and damn, I wanna see how you can get on the dyno!

Hey, I may have missed it somewhere in all this madness, but who made you strut bracket on that side that goes to the master cylinder? I'm assuming you made it?

shinka213
01-10-2008, 10:08 PM
hey Maz

MS strut tower bar comes with the bracket for the master cylinder..

:D:

Mazurfer
01-10-2008, 10:12 PM
hey Maz

MS strut tower bar comes with the bracket for the master cylinder..

:D:

I thought it had to be modified on your car to have it work? Or repositioned a little or something..am I having a brain fart?

marsredr100
01-10-2008, 10:23 PM
I thought it had to be modified on your car to have it work? Or repositioned a little or something..am I having a brain fart?

Shinka is right. It is a Mazdaspeed strut tower brace but slightly modified in order to accommodate the Pettit SC intake. :eyetwitch

Mazurfer
01-10-2008, 10:25 PM
Shinka is right. It is a Mazdaspeed strut tower brace but slightly modified in order to accommodate the Pettit SC intake. :eyetwitch

Yes, I know, but I have the bar, so what was the mod? I'm trying to see what all I have to deal with as I move closer to pulling the trigger on getting the SC. I know that's the least of my worries, but I knew it was modded and wasn't sure if it was a whole new bracket on that side, or some minor mod?


Thanks in advance

marsredr100
01-10-2008, 10:32 PM
Yes, I know, but I have the bar, so what was the mod? I'm trying to see what all I have to deal with as I move closer to pulling the trigger on getting the SC. I know that's the least of my worries, but I knew it was modded and wasn't sure if it was a whole new bracket on that side, or some minor mod?


Thanks in advance

Get a couple of longer bolts and spacers. Then set the carbon fiber bar in front of the brackets. :eyetwitch

Mazurfer
01-10-2008, 10:34 PM
Get a couple of longer bolts and a spacers. Then set the carbon fiber bar in front of the brackets. :eyetwitch

Aaaah..............I didn't even notice! :banghead:
Guess I should've looked closer and/or put the Tequila down..................no work tomorrow for me! Woot!

Thanks

shinka213
01-10-2008, 10:50 PM
yeah...im off too...
started my 4 day work week this week...doing 4 10hr days

Mazurfer
01-10-2008, 11:04 PM
yeah...im off too...
started my 4 day work week this week...doing 4 10hr days

Yeah.........I did 4 at 14 this week........I'm totally done for! :banghead:
Was a busy week!
Still have to do some things in the morning, but at least I'll be working from home and not long.

Mazurfer
01-10-2008, 11:06 PM
You Pettit owners see this thread yet?
Someone's looking for some quick info. I did what I could, but I'm not an owner.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=2235264#poststop

Phil's 8
01-11-2008, 07:56 AM
You Pettit owners see this thread yet?
Someone's looking for some quick info. I did what I could, but I'm not an owner.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=2235264#poststop

You guys were doing ok on the bar-the spacer can be purchased from Lowes in the electrical department and I believe is called a extension tube for ceiling fans. Cut it to size with a tubing cutter and while in Lowes pick up some longer metric bolts to go with the metric acorn nuts you already have.

I believe Moon invented this and has passed it on

ChattyRX8
01-11-2008, 12:49 PM
Well statistically the lifespan of the members of a CBR forum can be caluclated by the number of posts they make...the higher the number, the lower the lifespan...

So, basically...they do not survive long enough to bicker...

heh


That's some seriously flawed logic, my friend.

Charles R. Hill
01-11-2008, 03:14 PM
Ya gotta get to know Twinks. He's the Joe Walsh of our Eagles-like website.

MazdaManiac
01-11-2008, 03:20 PM
"My Maserati does 185. I lost my license, now I don't drive.
I have a limo, ride in the trunk. I lock the doors in case I get drunk."

Charles R. Hill
01-11-2008, 03:24 PM
Life's been good to me so far.........:)

Moon Assad
01-11-2008, 05:01 PM
That's some seriously flawed logic, my friend.

Gave it a twisted giggle but not funny, I had a CBR900rr and it did kick my arrs, killed me 3 times but this cats got 9 lives.
Made it back from glamis, got there and back in 1 piece. Jumped the truck 6 foot 3 times, put about 20 hours on my quad and only busted my arrs 1 time, awsome adventure.

Charles R. Hill
01-11-2008, 05:40 PM
Guns don't kill people.........

Mazurfer
01-11-2008, 06:07 PM
"My Maserati does 185. I lost my license, now I don't drive.
I have a limo, ride in the trunk. I lock the doors in case I get drunk."

Maybe I'm wrong and it could be another verse, and you could've done it intentionally.............but isn't it "I have a limo, ride in the back. I lock the doors in case I'm attacked"?

Always been a Joe Walsh fan from the early James Gang days! :)

MazdaManiac
01-11-2008, 06:55 PM
The way I put it up is the way Joe Walsh used to do it in live concerts.

Mazurfer
01-11-2008, 07:14 PM
The way I put it up is the way Joe Walsh used to do it in live concerts.

Ummmmmmmmmmmm...........I might have been to stoned(or worse) to be able to really hear or comprehend the lyrics being sung. :uhh:

Phil's 8
01-11-2008, 07:19 PM
Ummmmmmmmmmmm...........I might have been to stoned(or worse) to be able to really hear or comprehend the lyrics being sung. :uhh:
Well you can be sure Joe was!!! He had no idea what he was saying most of the time.

Mazurfer
01-11-2008, 07:44 PM
Well you can be sure Joe was!!! He had no idea what he was saying most of the time.

Ha Ha.............yes, but Jeff's actually correct yet again.......:banghead: .......he did use to change it up quite a bit. I atually do remember(I think.........:lol2: )
And yeah.............Joe was a raving drunk for many a year.

Charles R. Hill
01-11-2008, 07:51 PM
Doesn't Twinx confess to imbibing from time to time or, maybe, even more frequent than that? Hmm. He and Walsh have never been seen in the same room together......:uhh:

shinka213
01-11-2008, 07:57 PM
well....the 80s was a total blurrrrrrrrrrr for me!!

have no clue what anyone is talking about..

:squint:

MazdaManiac
01-11-2008, 08:14 PM
^^ I find your avatar completely offensive and disturbing! :evil_laug
Keep up the good work!

shinka213
01-11-2008, 08:23 PM
^^ I find your avatar completely offensive and disturbing! :evil_laug
Keep up the good work!

i knew you'd like it!!

Phil's 8
01-11-2008, 08:31 PM
Doesn't Twinx confess to imbibing from time to time or, maybe, even more frequent than that? Hmm. He and Walsh have never been seen in the same room together......:uhh:
With those two could you really be sure?

marsredr100
01-11-2008, 10:22 PM
i knew you'd like it!!

{{marsredr100 is also officially grossed out. Thank you.}} :eyetwitch :eyetwitch :eyetwitch

marsredr100
01-24-2008, 07:24 AM
I’m upgrading my current OEM radiator to a BHR (Charles) radiator next week. Anyways, I’m seeking advice on what to do with the OEM thermostat. I'm currently running the OEM thermostat with 30k on it and with a 30/70 mixture which includes two bottles of waterweter. Should I keep the current OEM or should I change it to a lower temp thermostat? Keep in mind that I’m located in Central Florida and I have no plans to drive my car in a cold environment (below 40F). :eyetwitch

munche187
01-24-2008, 08:46 AM
Guess who got caught by the paparazzi last weekend?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/MUNCHE187/RX8/juanmazdapal08.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/MUNCHE187/RX8/juanmazdapal082.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/MUNCHE187/RX8/juanmazdapal083.jpg

Phil's 8
01-24-2008, 08:53 AM
I’m upgrading my current EOM radiator to a BHR (Charles) radiators next week. Anyways, I’m seeking advice on what to do with the OEM thermostat. I'm currently running the OEM thermostat with 30k on it and with a 30/70 mixture which includes two bottles of waterweter. Should I keep the current OEM or should I change it to a lower temp thermostat? Keep in mind that I’m located in Central Florida and I have no plans to drive my car in a cold environment (below 40F). :eyetwitch
I could not find it but there was a whole thread on this some time back. The consensus on the thread was that the OEM thermostat was the recommended way to go. I don't remember all the reasons. With all the trouble I had in the past I was ready to do something but was advised not to. I think that MM was part of that discussion.

Munche, the 8 looks good.

Charles R. Hill
01-24-2008, 09:13 AM
Last I knew about the t-stat was that Rick Engman was working on a 180 for the RX-8. I guess the only way to see what's going on would be to call Paul and see.

marsredr100
01-24-2008, 11:01 AM
Also, I’m running a 170F thermostat on my R100 that I purchased from NAPA a while back. I think it was NAPA brand thermostat # 2 or # 3. It is the same configuration as a stock thermostat for a 2nd gen 13B (I have a 2nd gen 13B aluminum housing on my R100) but rated at 170F. Is the RX8 thermostat similar or same configuration as a 2nd gen? :eyetwitch

I did a quick search and found a 160F thermostat for 86-88 2nd gen Advance Auto part # 13396. But as I stated above, I'm not sure if is compatible (size/shape) with the RX8.

olddragger
01-24-2008, 11:22 AM
No aftermarket or swapable thermostat (other than oem) is available at present--i posted about that over 1 yr ago and we searched and searched.
If you do not have mazmarts water pump yet---get it.
On the thermostat at present about all you can do is drill a small hole in the face to help a little when it is closed. remember the thermostat does not control engine temp once it is open. So a 180 degree therm will not let your car stay at 180F--only the cooling system will do that.
I would do the pump 1st. Therms are easy to change.
oscd

Kane
01-24-2008, 11:30 AM
Can you just remove it all together if your in a warmer climate OSCD?

olddragger
01-24-2008, 11:37 AM
No advised, the car needs to reach certain temps.
oscd

Charles R. Hill
01-24-2008, 11:53 AM
I also would advise others to be careful when swapping thermostats as the PCM may react strangely. Gasoline engines tend to run best at 180 degrees, btw.

marsredr100
01-24-2008, 07:16 PM
Can you just remove it all together if your in a warmer climate OSCD?

Not sure about the RX8 but I was told to always run a thermostat on my previous 1st and 2nd gen, RX4 and currently on my R100. I was told that the water pump will not circulate the antifreeze (will cavitate) and much of the fluid will flow thru the bypass hole co-located in the thermostat housing area. :eyetwitch

marsredr100
01-24-2008, 07:20 PM
Thanks everyone for their feedbacks. I'll stick with the OEM thermostat and BHR's radiator for the moment but always open to suggestions. :eyetwitch

Kane
01-24-2008, 11:04 PM
I guess some old school hot rodder tricks just don't work anymore....

MazdaManiac
01-25-2008, 01:57 AM
Well, the RX-8 thermostat has a very low lift and a very late full-open temp.
Optimal temp on a rotary is actually a little closer to 205°F.
It has a very small window of "optimum" compared to a piston motor.

california style
01-25-2008, 04:53 AM
I guess this one of the veryyyyy small benefits of living in the UK.

Cooling is rarely an issue.... 8(

olddragger
01-25-2008, 07:05 AM
Hey Juan what size maf pipe is that? 87mm?
Sweet set up man.
oscd

marsredr100
01-26-2008, 10:36 PM
Hey Juan what size maf pipe is that? 87mm?
Sweet set up man.
oscd

OSCD

I'll post my MAF pipe measurements tomorrow. :eyetwitch

marsredr100
01-26-2008, 11:03 PM
FYI if you are planing to meth your SC.

I was getting CEL code PO300 "random misfire" at full throttle/100% meth spray/high rpm and stock plugs gaped at 35. This happened not all the time but most of the time. Once I got of the throttle the engine felt a bit erratic for a few seconds too. Today I made a couple of changes, drove the car in “like you stole it” mode and no PO300 CEL code no matter how hard I tried. First, I grounded my coils strait to the battery ala OSCD and second I changed my leading plugs to a set of NGK R6725-11.5 that I had in my stash of plugs gapped at 32. I added a washer because they are a bit longer than the OEM. Racing Beat recommends 10.5 but I don’t have a set of those. I kept the OEM trailings at 35. I know that the plugs are a bit to cold but I don’t use my RX8 to drive around town. Most of my driving is highway speed or AutoX. :eyetwitch

MazdaManiac
01-26-2008, 11:10 PM
Grounding your coils doesn't do anything.
I'm not sure about the plugs, though.
Those are really cold. If you have a misfire, colder plugs should only make it worse (if there is any effect at all).

Did you disconnect the battery when you did the coil grounding? If so, its likely the ESS profile reset that stopped the misfire.

marsredr100
01-26-2008, 11:29 PM
Grounding your coils doesn't do anything.
I'm not sure about the plugs, though.
Those are really cold. If you have a misfire, colder plugs should only make it worse (if there is any effect at all).

Did you disconnect the battery when you did the coil grounding? If so, its likely the ESS profile reset that stopped the misfire.

I did not disconnect the battery at all nor did I change the meth settings (also, same gas in the tank). Believe me when I tell you that I tried more that 10 times to make the CEL flicker or to get a Pending CEL code. I understand what you said about the grounding but I also noticed that throttle changes were less (almost not noticeable) when the cooling fans kicked on while in idle than before. :dunno:

MazdaManiac
01-27-2008, 02:53 AM
Interesting.
Just remember - the coils have the best ground in the world: the spark plugs.
Its the power circuit that is lacking.
The coil ground is just a reference for the ignitor.

marsredr100
01-27-2008, 09:17 AM
Interesting.
Just remember - the coils have the best ground in the world: the spark plugs.
Its the power circuit that is lacking.
The coil ground is just a reference for the ignitor.

Yeap, I know.

BTW, I got a hold of a buddy of mine that owns an EVO. He looked at the RX8 ignition/coils configuration and noted that it is similar to his EVO. He was having problems with spark blow out and ended up making his own (of the shelf) setup. Now he is running 575 on race fuel. The attached dyno sheet is on 93-octane pump gas. He is going to do some research and get back to me soon. :eyetwitch

shinka213
01-27-2008, 10:22 AM
Yeap, I know.

BTW, I got a hold of a buddy of mine that owns an EVO. He looked at the RX8 ignition/coils configuration and noted that it is similar to his EVO. He was having problems with spark blow out and ended up making his own (of the shelf) setup. Now he is running 575 on race fuel. The attached dyno sheet is on 93-octane pump gas. He is going to do some research and get back to me soon. :eyetwitch



^^nice!!

olddragger
01-27-2008, 10:31 AM
Sweet---thanks for the info. Curious --what did the water/meth bring your a/f's down too or was there any affect? Running 1 or 2 nozzles?
i am thinking of going to the barless plugs with 2 washers.
I am also thinking of building an engine with a small porting job, #3 seals etc
collecting "parts" now.
Also thinking of setting my ecm back to Cam to have a soft rev cut at 8.2 done.
Nice work man--saw the pics from the meet--sweet ride.
oscd

olddragger
01-27-2008, 10:32 AM
Oh by the way --i have figured out a way in which the RB revi filter, horn/screen and mafpipe can be used on our application. Interested?
oscd

shinka213
01-27-2008, 10:35 AM
Oh by the way --i have figured out a way in which the RB revi filter, horn/screen and mafpipe can be used on our application. Interested?
oscd

i think a lot of peeps would be interested OSCD...as lots of people are runnin with the revi in an NA engine....

if you have pics that would be awesome too....i will be glad to post them if you want to email them...

thx

olddragger
01-27-2008, 10:46 AM
I actually think i have learned how to post pics--i did it successfully on another thread! my entire family celebrated.:)
oscd

shinka213
01-27-2008, 10:48 AM
I actually think i have learned how to post pics--i did it successfully on another thread! my entire family celebrated.:)
oscd

welcome to the club of hosters!!!
:kiss:

Mazurfer
01-27-2008, 10:52 AM
Oh by the way --i have figured out a way in which the RB revi filter, horn/screen and mafpipe can be used on our application. Interested?
oscd

I for one................would be interested in seeing this and hearing about it.

And the easiest way to post pics, is to select "manage attachments", then select "browse" on the window that pops up and point it to where you have the picture stored, the click "upload". From there it's just closing that other pop up window and "submit reply" on the original window.

Yes, this makes a small attachment in the original post, but people can then click on it to see the photo in it's original size. I usually make them 8x10 before putting attaching them, but 5x7 is okay as well. You of course can host the pics on some other site/server, but the above method is easier in my opinion.

swoope
01-27-2008, 01:41 PM
I actually think i have learned how to post pics--i did it successfully on another thread! my entire family celebrated.:)
oscd


omg.. that would be fabulous!!!!!! :):):)

note. when i looked at the install and chatted with ray about it.. looks like you could just notch the bottom of the box.

beers :beer:

Charles R. Hill
01-27-2008, 02:07 PM
Dave, the attachment management wasn't the hard part, I'll bet. It was learning how to crop the photos to fit the file size. I hadda have my daughter help me last year but I know how to do it myself now. I am all grown-up and out of my poopy pants!:lol2:

Good job, Denny.

Razz1
01-27-2008, 02:25 PM
Ha ha, I found the easiest way was to email the pictures to your self using the reduced photo size for the internet.

Now I can save them as.... then click on the 480 by what ever.

This way we still have the orginal un altered in size.

Mazurfer
01-27-2008, 07:35 PM
Dave, the attachment management wasn't the hard part, I'll bet. It was learning how to crop the photos to fit the file size. I hadda have my daughter help me last year but I know how to do it myself now. I am all grown-up and out of my poopy pants!:lol2:

Good job, Denny.

Ha Ha.................oh.....I see............well, most photo programs you don't even have to use crop, you can just change the image size by pixels, inches, or some other size. Anyway.........I usually do crop and/or adjust other things as well. Guess I forgot those little facts since I've been doing it for soooooooo long now.

Charles R. Hill
01-27-2008, 07:59 PM
Oh, once I learned the pixel sizes that fit in the format for the forum, it's a breeze. Getting there I needed a little help from one of my kids.

olddragger
01-27-2008, 09:31 PM
Just sent my injectors to rc engineering for cleaning and flow testing.
oscd

Razz1
01-27-2008, 09:51 PM
Just sent my injectors to rc engineering for cleaning and flow testing.
oscd

OH NO!

Here we go agin!

My car won't run.. Is it the inceptor, Pettit SC, Home made air intake or the injectors?

Make sure you connect them correctly.

MazdaManiac
01-27-2008, 09:56 PM
Lol. Coulda saved you a bunch of money over RC as well.

shinka213
01-27-2008, 09:56 PM
im sure he knows how to do that

Charles R. Hill
01-27-2008, 09:59 PM
Not necessarily, Jeff.

marsredr100
01-27-2008, 10:05 PM
Just finished removing my OEM radiator. It was like taking a banana from a one-ton gorilla. I can see that installing a bigger radiator (BHR) is going to be like being chased by the same pissed off gorilla. Keep in mind that I’m doing the job by myself. Also, OSCD see attached pictures of my intake tube. Inside diameter is 86mm and 115mm in length. The MAF center hole is located 50mm from the front part of the intake. The other picture shows my coils, which are located just behind the radiator (b/w wires and signal wires soldered directly to the coils and now the b ground wires grounded directly to the battery). :eyetwitch

Razz1
01-27-2008, 10:22 PM
Excellant photos

olddragger
01-27-2008, 10:23 PM
Well i thought after 4 yrs of running and now more concentrating on tuning--it would be a good thing to know --what my injectors are doing etc.
i will try and post pics of the RB maf pipe thing i did to,morrow. Kinda busy today.
Basically all I did was make the the length shorter (without shortening the maf pipe) so it would fit in the available space. Just have to cut a couple of the rubber ribs inside the filter allowing the maf tube to slide a little further in, get rid of the screen thing and use a screen like a short sock fit over the maf tube and then push it into the filter, and then get rid of the big blue bullet looking thing in the front and use a piece of your own choice that is flat. The horn fits as usual. Just make sure it all lines up good.
I may need to make a small brace for the front because it is a little heavier than the other one.
oscd

MazdaManiac
01-27-2008, 10:50 PM
Not necessarily, Jeff.

Why? RC is $24 per injector. KG is less.

Charles R. Hill
01-27-2008, 11:01 PM
How much less and is it really worth it?:dunno: Russ Collins has been doing it for a LONG time. We all make choices based on more than simply what is cheaper. I am not doubting you, and we each have good experiences with RC and KG, so I guess it's up for the others to decide as they need their injectors done. What is KG charging and what does he do?

MazdaManiac
01-27-2008, 11:10 PM
Clean and balance with new rubber. $15 each.

MazdaManiac
01-28-2008, 05:01 PM
Are there anyPettit S/C owners with a complete dyno plot?
I want to start swapping out the plots in the "Dyno Comparison" thread with owner graphs instead of shop graphs.
It will be more representative of the typical outcomes that way.
The only one I've seen so far has been Joff's, which is torque only.
Thanks.

Bastage
01-29-2008, 07:57 AM
Can't you just use the torque and rpms and MATLAB or Excel and make a hp chart?

olddragger
01-30-2008, 09:05 PM
I cannot post a picture--I have been trying--but I have spent enough time on this--I have HP photo shop, I have tried to get it to the right size with Paint, I guess if you want to do the revi--figure it out.
oscd

Mazurfer
01-30-2008, 09:43 PM
Defeated by a lowly little computer. :(

Just kidding!

No problem "OD", I think there has been enough of a description that if I ever do finally decide to go SC that I can figure that much out on my own. I knew it could be done...........not sure why I want to leave it in there, so who knows.........I may take it out???????????

california style
01-31-2008, 04:29 AM
Being defeated by computers is part of modern life.....

8(

Phil's 8
01-31-2008, 07:28 AM
I cannot post a picture--I have been trying--but I have spent enough time on this--I have HP photo shop, I have tried to get it to the right size with Paint, I guess if you want to do the revi--figure it out.
oscd
I'm sure glad that it's not only me.

Being defeated by computers is part of modern life.....

8(
Yes but nonetheless frustrating that a simple machine can best us.

shinka213
01-31-2008, 07:31 AM
I cannot post a picture--I have been trying--but I have spent enough time on this--I have HP photo shop, I have tried to get it to the right size with Paint, I guess if you want to do the revi--figure it out.
oscd

PM sent!

olddragger
01-31-2008, 07:49 PM
Answered and pics sent. When you see them i need to explain.
Summary: The revi has the best imho maf pipe of anyone out there. It will offer the smoothest airflow past the maf than anything else out there.The trouble with us is that in stock REVI form and even in not utilizing the revi "box" the filter/horn and maf pipe is too long for our setup. I modified the set up a little here and a little there until it fits.
Steps:
1-when the pics are up notice how close the maf mounting site is to the edge of the revi filter. that was accomplished by trimming the inside of the revi filter rubber hose(in which the maf pipe fits into). The rubber on the inside of the filter that the pipe slides into has a "stop". it is divided into little ridges. with an exact o knife trim out 2 ribs--NO MORE. This allows the maf pipe to slide further into the filter.
2- instead of the screen that the revi uses between the maf pipe and the horn, use the sock approach. Ok by that i mean simply cover the end of the maf pipe with screen like a short sock and then slide the pipe into the filter. it will stay in place. trim the excess and make sure it is flat.
3- the horn fits as usual but it will not slide in quite as far but it does go far enough for the clamp to get it and it does holds well. Just make sure it is centered and the entire length of the horn/pipe is smooth and straight(VERY IMPORTANT)
4- the big blue metal dome adds a lot of lenght to the end of the filter. You need something flat there. Use your imagination. I simply cut 2 pieces of pexiglass into the correct size/shape and inserted into the end. that way i can see inside the filter also and tell if the horn has slipped etc.
The end result is a filter/horn/pipe that is approx 12 1/2 to 13 inches long. That will fit. I am also going to fab up somekind of support for the end of the filter.
Since we are now using our MAF--it needs as smooth of an airflow as possible!
oscd

shinka213
01-31-2008, 08:26 PM
just teaching a younger dawg new tricks :kiss:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1944/dennysrevipd0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8828/dennysrevi1no3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

olddragger
01-31-2008, 08:34 PM
With a little help from my friends:) TXS!
oscd

Mazurfer
02-01-2008, 05:39 PM
Thanks Pat, I guess I could've just had him E-mail them to me.

Denny...........thank you as well.

shinka213
02-01-2008, 07:28 PM
Hey Denny
im trying to picture it....using the revi, that is....i can only remember the revi when it was in my car (in the box)...

on the second pic....does the MAF attach where i think it does..
and if so, how does it go all the way in (blue piece seems to be blocking it..

no flaming please....this is a learning lesson.. :lol2:

olddragger
02-01-2008, 07:38 PM
that blue piece you see is actually the inside of the maf pipe--i took the anodizing blue off the outside but not the inside.
No flame:) does look funny
olddragger

MazdaManiac
02-03-2008, 01:43 PM
Are there anyPettit S/C owners with a complete dyno plot?
I want to start swapping out the plots in the "Dyno Comparison" thread with owner graphs instead of shop graphs.
It will be more representative of the typical outcomes that way.
The only one I've seen so far has been Joff's, which is torque only.
Thanks.

Is there no one with a dyno? I'd really like to make the chart more representative now that the options are more available.

DOMINION
02-07-2008, 02:45 AM
I cannot post a picture--I have been trying--but I have spent enough time on this--I have HP photo shop, I have tried to get it to the right size with Paint, I guess if you want to do the revi--figure it out.
oscd

Email me the picture. Upload it as a attachment(s) from your email account (IE:yahoo msn ect) and send it to me at;
gimac13@yahoo.com
-Gil :)

Mazurfer
02-07-2008, 07:10 AM
Pat(Shinka123) already did it for him about four posts down.

See............... http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=2274233#poststop

shinka213
02-07-2008, 07:42 AM
that blue piece you see is actually the inside of the maf pipe--i took the anodizing blue off the outside but not the inside.
No flame:) does look funny
olddragger

Im wondering Denny - how will the MAF sensor fit down in there with the blue piece there?

am i asking the right question here?

olddragger
02-07-2008, 11:39 AM
Pat,
The blue is the coating on the inside of the pipe--the maf opening is not blocked in any way. Does look funny. the box cannot be used without extensive mods--so no plans with that as of yet.
oscd

eviltwinkie
02-07-2008, 11:50 AM
Is there no one with a dyno? I'd really like to make the chart more representative now that the options are more available.

I have yet to see one...or hear of anyone getting one yet...

shinka213
02-07-2008, 07:57 PM
got my new maf housing from Pettit today....a really nice piece of equipment
especially since its signed by Cam and Moon....per my request of course... ;)

i certainly feel special.... :kiss:

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/3656/p2070129cb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

shinka213
02-07-2008, 07:59 PM
I have yet to see one...or hear of anyone getting one yet...

dont worry Twinx....i will be getting dynoed when i get back from my cruise....

right now i can only think of the eastern carribean....and "virgin" pina coladas...

:lol:

eviltwinkie
02-07-2008, 08:29 PM
dont worry Twinx....i will be getting dynoed when i get back from my cruise....

right now i can only think of the eastern carribean....and "virgin" pina coladas...

:lol:

Virgins require too much work...go straight to the slutty drinks instead...

Be sure you take lots of pics too...should be pretty flippin sweet...

Bastage
02-08-2008, 08:53 AM
got my new maf housing from Pettit today....a really nice piece of equipment
especially since its signed by Cam and Moon....per my request of course... ;)

i certainly feel special.... :kiss:


As you should feel... that pipe sher iz perdy... I is jellus

Seriously. I want mine autographed too :)

Phil's 8
02-08-2008, 09:04 AM
got my new maf housing from Pettit today....a really nice piece of equipment
especially since its signed by Cam and Moon....per my request of course... ;)

i certainly feel special.... :kiss:

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/3656/p2070129cb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I two am jellus:)

shinka213
02-08-2008, 09:21 AM
^^ ask and it shall be given to you!!

:)

marsredr100
02-08-2008, 12:00 PM
^^ ask and it shall be given to you!!

:)

Don’t care much about the Pettit intake but how about the rug? That is some fine piece of rug…if you know what I mean. :eyetwitch

shinka213
02-08-2008, 02:54 PM
Don’t care much about the Pettit intake but how about the rug? That is some fine piece of rug…if you know what I mean. :eyetwitch

indeed...its a very expensive "berber"....Dupont Ultra stainmaster...with a very nice "weave" and sculpted cut..the whole carpet gets replaced if a stain doesnt come out...

:naughty:

Brettus
02-08-2008, 02:58 PM
easy on the knees shinks ? :lol:

marsredr100
02-08-2008, 02:58 PM
indeed...its a very expensive "berber"....Dupont Ultra stainmaster...with a very nice "weave" and sculpted cut..the whole carpet gets replaced if a stain doesnt come out...

:naughty:

Nice! :eyetwitch

zenrx8
02-08-2008, 03:05 PM
(To the tune of "Goodbye, Cruel World", Pink Floyd, The Wall)

Goodbye, old MAF housing
I'm trashing you today
Goodbye,
Goodbye,
Goodbye.

New Hotness is here from Pettit
There's nothing you can say
To make me
Change
My mind
Goodbye.

114924

May you drive swiftly in peace and Throw No Codes.

Phil's 8
02-08-2008, 04:03 PM
^^ ask and it shall be given to you!!

:)

:bowdown: Ye be all seeing :Eyecrazy: and correct.:)

shinka213
02-08-2008, 04:07 PM
easy on the knees shinks ? :lol:

yes....very plush....
easy on the whole body actually....
at my age, im always lookin for comfort!!

Mazurfer
02-08-2008, 04:30 PM
yes....very plush....
easy on the whole body actually....
at my age, im always lookin for comfort!!

Can we have a dyno sheet on this please?
No, your rear is not a dyno! :banghead:

:lol2: :lol2:

jskup1
02-08-2008, 07:01 PM
I posted this before, but here it is again.