how much do they go for. can i blow away an evo? lol

how much do they go for. can i blow away an evo? lol

www.pettitracing.com

yes

an evo with intake and exhaust yes!!!

doors I am considering lol
http://www.disappearing-car-door.com/

Oh yeah. THAT won't affect your weight distribution!

Yes it will it will help my ass get out faster

^^

:rollingla


roland has a big arse!!

^^

:rollingla


roland has a big arse!!
Are you going to take that Roland?:evil_laug

Those doors look pretty cool.

Those doors look pretty cool.

Hell I need the B piller to get my fat butt out of the car.

Hell I need the B piller to get my fat butt out of the car.

do you have to open the suicide door too??

:naughty:

do you have to open the suicide door too??

:naughty:

I'm not that fat, but before long I may need to carry another person with me just to help this old fat man out of the car.

do you have to open the suicide door too??

:naughty:

I don't know about Phil but I do.

Hence the reason for purchasing my 8. :eyetwitch

Filmed in Detroit and the surrounding suburbs!

I don't know about Phil but I do.

Hence the reason for purchasing my 8. :eyetwitch
Well if having a fat butt means the size in that picture then I would not qualify. Let's just make it sizable and elderly.

Hey Juan, when are you going to post the numbers from your dyno??

Well if having a fat butt means the size in that picture then I would not qualify. Let's just make it sizable and elderly.

Hey Phil, my butt is not fat. It is the chair that makes my butt look fat. :eyetwitch

Hey Juan, when are you going to post the numbers from your dyno??

I gained over 30 hp from X to flash. However, I'm not too happy with the person that ran the dyno. I'm scheduling another dyno for earlier next month (same dyno) but different person. :eyetwitch

Is that 30whp?? What did the guy at the dyno do to upset you??

Is that 30whp?? What did the guy at the dyno do to upset you??

Yes, wheel horse power.

In a rush, running all over the place and on his cell phone. :eyetwitch

Can anybody explain where that extra power may be coming from? I could see potential improved driveability/smoothness but improved peak power?:dunno:

Can anybody explain where that extra power may be coming from? I could see potential improved driveability/smoothness but improved peak power?:dunno:

Charles

I'm not even close to the level of knowledge that some of the people on this forum have but all I can say is that the power is way up and so the miles per hour.

My unrefined guess is that the power and mpg gain is due to a combination of "Intergalactic Ju-Ju" and FM*. Not necessarily in the same order. :eyetwitch

*F_cking Magic

Most likely leaner A/Fs and a LOT more ignition timing.
The PCM likes 20° or more under heavy load where Kan's tune only had 3° to 6°.
Though, the placebo effect of an OE idle and better throttle response is going to go a long way.

That would go under the heading of "driveability", wouldn't it?

Are you going to take that Roland?:evil_laug

YES :confused:

Charles

I'm not even close to the level of knowledge that some of the people on this forum have but all I can say is that the power is way up and so the miles per hour.

My unrefined guess is that the power and mpg gain is due to a combination of "Intergalactic Ju-Ju" and FM*. Not necessarily in the same order. :eyetwitch

*F_cking Magic

my top end went from 145 to 156. Confirmed with a GPS.

Before I would hit 135 and it would slowly crawl to 145.

Now I hit 145 and crawl to 156

my top end went from 145 to 156. Confirmed with a GPS.

That's because you are back to the OE rev limit instead of the Int-X rev limit.

That would go under the heading of "driveability", wouldn't it?

Amongst others, yes.

YES :confused:
Why did I have a feeling you'd say that.:)

That's because you are back to the OE rev limit instead of the Int-X rev limit.

With the Int-X and the flash I had the same as 135 hit wall 145 topspeed.

I don't kow why but after adding the meth it went from 145 hit wall 156 top speed.:dunno:

Why did I have a feeling you'd say that.:)

lolololololol

I don't kow why but after adding the meth it went from 145 hit wall 156 top speed.:dunno:

You didn't say that before. You said you gained power by switching to the flash.
Obviously methanol is going to give you more power with the blower on the top end (where your top speed is) because the temps coming out of the blower at those RPMs could roast a pig!

Well, the cars at the frame shop getting a pull here and a tug there. It should be finished buy the time I get back from my adventure. Then comes the body shop. Ill have a car for the flash soon for ya phil.

I have also experienced the wall at 130+, but I didn't continue to push it. Why does this occur BTW??

You didn't say that before. You said you gained power by switching to the flash.
Obviously methanol is going to give you more power with the blower on the top end (where your top speed is) because the temps coming out of the blower at those RPMs could roast a pig!


I did gain some power from the Flash. Had the flash for about 3 weeks before I added the meth.

Roast Pig Yum!:aroused:

That was a big gain then I'm glad I added the meth.

Yeah. At high blower RPMs, you are way out of the efficiency band and the A/W intercooler will load up after only a few seconds.
The meth cools even more effectively at higher RPMs.
Just think how well it would work if you had it plumbed into the right part of the intake!

Well, the cars at the frame shop getting a pull here and a tug there. It should be finished buy the time I get back from my adventure. Then comes the body shop. Ill have a car for the flash soon for ya phil.

YES!!!! I need stability Good to hear that your 8 will be back for sure now.

I just realized that I used 10% ethanol blended fuel for my dyno test. I normally use Hess gasoline on my cars and after a quick web research I found out that 10% ethanol blended fuels produce 25 to 35 percent less energy than regular unleaded fuel per gallon. :banghead:

I just realized that I used 10% ethanol blended fuel for my dyno test. I normally use Hess gasoline on my cars and after a quick web research I found out that 10% ethanol blended fuels produce 25 to 35 percent less energy than regular unleaded fuel per gallon. :banghead:

No more Hess for me!!!

Well they just sent me a link of a video shot last night of my car in friendly competition with a RX8 basher. If you want to see send me a pm I'lll send the link.

ok it's working.

Well they just sent me a link of a video shot last night of my car in friendly competition with a RX8 basher. If you want to see send me a pm I'lll send the link.
BYE BYE Yes. Did he run and hide? Usually they turn off the road and you never see them again.

No he had to go back to where we meet to pick up his freind.lolol

No he had to go back to where we meet to pick up his freind.lolol

-----------------------The sound of silence and "how fast can we get out of here". Usually if they are bashers that will shut them up. I love the "Thats an auto?" or do you want a head start since your auto? I always thought the sound would alert them but most of the basher type would not know a s/c sound from a fart. A least when I get beat I want to know what beat me (yes I do get beat but they all comment about an auto being that fast). On the track of course:fingersx:

until we got to the location I was shifting at 3k to avoid being noticed. He did say even modded 8s were slow. I wanted to catch him completely off guard.

until we got to the location I was shifting at 3k to avoid being noticed. He did say even modded 8s were slow. I wanted to catch him completely off guard.
On the track...............right:fingersx:

yes, what I meant by noticed is I didn't want him to hear the S/C and change his mind.

yes, what I meant by noticed is I didn't want him to hear the S/C and change his mind.
:uhh: Deceptive aren't we. lol I prefer they know what's there and then they see the result. So many bashers out there that have no clue.:) :) :) I try to represent the average 8 a/t.

yes,lololol

He did say even modded 8s were slow.

Every one else I have ran has known about the S/C.

yes,lololol

He did say even modded 8s were slow.

Every one else I have ran has known about the S/C.

What kind of car was this?

what was the 8 basher driving?

IVE BEEN FLASHED!!

a wolf in sheep's clothing....gotta love it :FIREdevil :rofl:

IVE BEEN FLASHED!!
Oh my god, what did he look like???



Congratulations

Oh my god, what did he look like???



Congratulations

ive been sworn to secrecy....

on the down side....the ecu is in WBP and my car is in Philly...
i am going thru withdrawal...

:D:

Shinka, what about the other "mods" that are supposed to be done w/ the flash??

Will you be doing those yourself?

Shinka, what about the other "mods" that are supposed to be done w/ the flash??

Will you be doing those yourself?

i will have a traveling helper....of course, i will oversee the whole operation!!

:lol:

IVE BEEN FLASHED!!
sweet! that means i get to go for a ride!

UPDATE!!!

Just got the car back from Pettit tonight! Runs great! The new flash feels great!

The ride home was fun but it was raining pretty hard so i took it easy. :banghead:
I did manage to hit it in second around a turn at 25mph and she broke loose instantly. Nothing like a little driffting practice! Overall very impressed. :)

Shinka your gonna like it!!

sweet! that means i get to go for a ride!

hopefully she will be runnin by then cliff and we dont have snow for the meet

:rofl:

he was driving a XRS with a Celica GT-S engine built intake exhaust headers cams piggy back ecu.

I ran the G37s that comes after me beat him to.

Packed and leaving this weekend.

UPDATE!!!

Just got the car back from Pettit tonight! Runs great! The new flash feels great!

The ride home was fun but it was raining pretty hard so i took it easy. :banghead:
I did manage to hit it in second around a turn at 25mph and she broke loose instantly. Nothing like a little driffting practice! Overall very impressed. :)

Shinka your gonna like it!!

Another happy customer, I did alot of your assembly and insall by the way. Glad your happy with it.

Moon, please have a safe and happy trip. I hope your experience on I-95 is better than when I was out that way.:) If you happen to run into any problems in the MI/OH/IN area, I'd be happy to help even if it means an 8-hour drive. Godspeed, my friend.

Thanks for the support

Another happy customer, I did alot of your assembly and insall by the way. Glad your happy with it.
Very happy!! :)

Tell Cam to take some time off this holiday! He needs it!!

Very happy!! :)

Tell Cam to take some time off this holiday! He needs it!!

Yeh, we all need it, glad your happy.

happy motoring moon...and have a safe trip!!

:)

Yeh, we all need it, glad your happy.

Yes you all do!! :)

Very happy!! :)

Tell Cam to take some time off this holiday! He needs it!!

Nice! :eyetwitch

IVE BEEN FLASHED!!

Nice! :eyetwitch

Hey Moon have a safe trip.
Bring me back a souvenir!!!!

Have a safe trip

Just got off the phone with Cam, and he assuaged my troubled mind as applies to the flash. I am definately on board for this now and will be driving down to the shop as soon as they can schedule me.

Moon, drive safe. I drove back from Virginia last week and the roads were so bad I saw about 5 wrecks. I also slid my truck off the road, drove it back up. Then got out and pulled another truck back onto the road since he happened to slide off a few moments before I did.

Hey Moon have a safe trip.
Bring me back a souvenir!!!!

What do ya want. My truck is packed and I have a blower ridin shotgun and a Raptor chasing me up.

Just got off the phone with Cam, and he assuaged my troubled mind as applies to the flash. I am definately on board for this now and will be driving down to the shop as soon as they can schedule me.

Moon, drive safe. I drove back from Virginia last week and the roads were so bad I saw about 5 wrecks. I also slid my truck off the road, drove it back up. Then got out and pulled another truck back onto the road since he happened to slide off a few moments before I did.

Dam, did ya hydroplane or was it ice?

What's a "Raptor"?

It was ice and snow. The first time I started to fishtail I was doing 70. I walked the truck back and forth untill I got it under control. My next brilliant thought was to slow down to 60. I started sliding again maybe 2 minutes later, the truck took a hard bite, and I rode it down an embankment. No need to say what you're all thinking. I drove 50 or slower the rest of the way untill I was out of the snow.
All in all, a great experience for my first time driving on ice.

What's a "Raptor"?

"Rapture"?

hell on wheels

What's a "Raptor"?

This is a Raptor

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/MUNCHE187/misc/2007-yamaha-raptor-700r-yamaha-spor.jpg

hell on wheels

hahaha mines is bigger than yours

"Rapture"?

Rapture

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/MUNCHE187/misc/rapture.jpg

Here is some footage of were my trip will end up.

http://gtube.glamisdunes.com/view_video.php?viewkey=b633e50cdf1b20de6f46&page=1&viewtype=&category=tf

moon: that's the most annoying siggy ever.

dayum....that shyte looks awesome....

:rock:

Raptor.

A flesh eating dinosar, Like in the 2nd or 3rd Jurassic park movie.

Raptor.

A flesh eating dinosar, Like in the 2nd or 3rd Jurassic park movie.

or a fast hard drive from western digital!

http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=189&language=en

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/170/raptoryc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^was that your high school pic?
LOLOLOLOLOL
payback for the Arse comment lolollolol

^^was that your high school pic?
LOLOLOLOLOL
payback for the Arse comment lolollolol

nice!

^^

:rollingla

^^was that your high school pic?
LOLOLOLOLOL
payback for the Arse comment lolollolol

Actually, thats what it looked like after the perverbial touch up!!

:D:

lololololololoolololol

So did Moon hit the road yet?

sometime this morning im told!

hes got my ecu all packed up in the vx...

:D:

everyone is the new maf tube a 3 inch one or a 3.5 inch like the oem?
Moon doing the route 66 thing---old farts will know what i am talking about.
Have a ball man sing the Steffen wolf song!
oscd

I am sure he'll be gettin' his "kicks".:)

I would hope 3.5, or even a little bigger, so you guys don't outrun the available MAF voltage.

My thoughts also Charles!
OSCD

I know I "got my kicks" when I took my long trips and my ass was HURTIN' by the time I got home!:lol2:

I hope Moon has fun like I did. Scanning stations, crankin' the cd's, listening to the engine purr, especially on my recent trip to NY.

spoke to moon about an hour ago...
he left WPB around 1230....was about 100mi outta of the city when i called him...

will keep you posted....

PS...on the maf housing, i will be getting the new one and a new air filter..but im not sure of the size...

:D:

I am sure he'll be gettin' his "kicks".:)

I would hope 3.5, or even a little bigger, so you guys don't outrun the available MAF voltage.

To late.

For what?

already ran out of voltage?
I am looking into modifying the RB maf pipe and actually using the RB revi k/n filter. Leave out the Velocity stack. may as well --used REvi intakes are not selling now.
oscd

spoke to moon tonight
he was in south carolina...in a rain storm...

but doing ok..

just got off the phone with moon...
its just past "south of the border"
hunkerin down...eatin some grub and gonna take a nap...

still rainin like cats and dogs...

:ylsuper:

For what?

maf VOLTAGE

You pegged the MAF in a 3.5 in housing???

* Gets ready to be impressed......

maf VOLTAGE

Uh, no. You didn't.
You are not producing 400+ HP with that blower.

If you are maxing out the MAF reading, its because of the 40% that the flash needs to add the to actual airflow reading to make up for the idle bleed.

maf VOLTAGE


then something is drastically wrong

If you are maxing out the MAF reading, its because of the 40% that the flash needs to add the to actual airflow reading to make up for the idle bleed.

ok going to bed so i might be just too tired but pm me or something about what you are saying- it just makes no sense to me.

Several conversations at the same time had me saying "voltage" when, as MM points out, I should have been saying "reading", as in grams/second. Good thing nobody counts on me for serious info around here.

:doh:

TMI for this ole fart....

have no clue here!!

:rollingla

OK can someone slow down ether give me a place to go look for what you talking about or explain please. Sounds like you are saying we are running out of current to the MAF.

We are discussing the concept of the airflow demands of the supercharger being more than the MAF sensor can measure. With the smaller intake pipe previously included in the Pettit kit this is more likely to happen. The converse is also true, to a point.

the point is that with this kit you should be no where near pegging th eMAF. i ffor someone is that means- to ME- that ther eis a problem.

I didnt understand previously that this kit includes a MAF tube that is smaller than stock diameter. What is the size of the tube that comes with it?

another thing i just read i need confirmation on before i continue.

no one should be pegging this maf before 400some hp

can someone please explain what "pegging the maf" means?

the only input i have here is that i will be getting a new MAF housing that is a little bigger than what came with the original kit...new housing and new filter..

:)

Think of it this way; measuring the temperature of something that is hotter than the thermometer is calibrated to measure.

thanks ray...

so what youre saying is that if the housing is too big you wont be able to measure the MAF??

maf meters measure the amount of air coming into the engine. they have each have an upper limit they can read based on their design. when you reach that limit its called "pegging the meter". sort of like "pegging the needle" on the speedo or odo= its the limit to the reading it can give.

with a maf if you reach its limit then all of the air above that reaching the motor is going in unmeasured, the electronics dont see it, so not enough fuel is added , you run lean , knock, boom, new engine

the stock Maf in its original 3inch/76 mm housing is capable of measuring enough air to produce 400some hp.

going down in maf tube size while adding FI is never good. you can go up in size. peopel used to go up to 80mm very often but nowadays 90 mm (3.5 inches) is often used.

thx zoom

:D:

all i can say is that im going thru withdrawal waiting for my ecu...

:crying:

originally Pettit was running its system with a 3 " tube. this was when the INT x or other management systems had to be used. Basically bypassing the maf. Now that there is a flash out and the maf can be fully functional a oem size tube is supplied.
Do I have that correct?
oscd

originally Pettit was running its system with a 3 " tube. this was when the INT x or other management systems had to be used. Basically bypassing the maf. Now that there is a flash out and the maf can be fully functional a oem size tube is supplied.
Do I have that correct?
oscd

hey OD....this is what i know....the housing that came with the blower (the one you and i have presently) is smalled than the new one thats being used with the flash......i am not sure of the exact measurements....
on my existing housing i have my MAF installed...something moon did for me after the fact when he was up here for rotorfest...i wanted to have my traction control..

moon tells me that the existing housings we have now will not work with the flash..

That makes sense Shinka - whenever you change the MAF housing you have to rescale the entire ECU - aka retune.

The sensor always reads from 1-5 volts; if your tube size is smaller - 5 volts comes sooner (IE with less airflow). As it gets larger; you will also lose granularity as each volt cahnge is a larger airflow value.

I am sure he'll be gettin' his "kicks".:)

I would hope 3.5, or even a little bigger, so you guys don't outrun the available MAF voltage.

lololol

I need to apologize I was bored and wanted to push some buttons. With what Ray posted I knew I would get everyone worked up. Thats why I just posted "To Late". I couldn't post anthing else if I would have it would have been obvious I didn't know what Ray was talking about.

lololol

I need to apologize I was bored and wanted to push some buttons. With what Ray posted I knew I would get everyone worked up. Thats why I just posted "To Late". I couldn't post anthing else if I would have it would have been obvious I didn't know what Ray was talking about.

I knew i could count on you to start a raucus!!.... :lol: sp??

And, yet, Roland I am still clueless.......:lol2:

lololol

I need to apologize I was bored and wanted to push some buttons. With what Ray posted I knew I would get everyone worked up. Thats why I just posted "To Late". I couldn't post anthing else if I would have it would have been obvious I didn't know what Ray was talking about.

Ahh. Great.
So legitimate questions are off-limits, but "pushing buttons" is OK?
I loves me some hypocrites!

I loves me some hypocrites!

obviously

the stock Maf in its original 3inch/76 mm housing is capable of measuring enough air to produce 400some hp.

going down in maf tube size while adding FI is never good. you can go up in size. peopel used to go up to 80mm very often but nowadays 90 mm (3.5 inches) is often used.

The Stock MAF is mounted in a 3-3/8"ID tube...

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=112191&stc=1&d=1197832085

And zoom is right, what you don't want to do is this...

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=112192&stc=1&d=1197832221

obviously

How you like that glass house?

The Stock MAF is mounted in a 3-3/8"ID tube...



Correct.

i think its been noted that the newer housing is bigger than the original..

thx for the pics and measurements

How you like that glass house?


;) ;)

you're right sorry it is bigger than 3/76 . my memory is off. someone ask rb, or richard since he makes the maf tube for RB, what the id is with calipers.


http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=112192&stc=1&d=1197832221

you've got to be kidding me? thats what come with the int x version of the kit?

doesnt look like mine at all..

:D:

PS...what is that from??

The original Int-X version didn't come with a MAF tube at all.
Then they started shipping a plain machined 3" aluminum tube with a MAF adapter for the A/T folks.
The tube was only 4" long, so it wasn't useful for actual measurement of MAF values - it was just to assuage the transmission controller and show it some load.

you're right sorry it is bigger than 3/76 . my memory is off. someone ask rb, or richard since he makes the maf tube for RB, what the id is with calipers.


http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=112192&stc=1&d=1197832221

you've got to be kidding me? thats what come with the int x version of the kit?

No. That is what came with my kit. I am working with PTP to get it fixed. This is actually why I have been posting so much about what the tube size "should be".

you're right sorry it is bigger than 3/76 . my memory is off. someone ask rb, or richard since he makes the maf tube for RB, what the id is with calipers.


I just hit mine with the vernier and its 85mm.

you're right sorry it is bigger than 3/76 . my memory is off. someone ask rb, or richard since he makes the maf tube for RB, what the id is with calipers.


http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=112192&stc=1&d=1197832221

you've got to be kidding me? thats what come with the int x version of the kit?

All I know is that the housing that is being released with the flash is a little narrower than stock, and bigger than what they released with the int-x tune.

All I know is that the housing that is being released with the flash is a little narrower than stock, and bigger than what they released with the int-x tune.

I love your contributions.
You are quick to slam me for the detailed, methodical assessments I make, but you are too lazy/inept to just walk outside and take a ruler to a tube under your hood.

I love your contributions.
You are quick to slam me for the detailed, methodical assessments I make, but you are too lazy/inept to just walk outside and take a ruler to a tube under your hood.

I'm certainly not lazy, and I can use a ruler/calipers/measuring tape better than you can read a dyno sheet... but using my mad measuring skillz would accomplish absolutely nothing. :uhh:

Your "methodical assessments" in this case are clearly based on the assumption that I have the new housing... which makes them FAIL, since I do not... yet.

Here's a suggestion: Use facts as part of your methodology... instead of dumb assumptions/fuzzy math.

I'm starting to appreciate you on a comical level now. Thanks man...

Welcome back to the Pettit threads :)

Ahh. Great.
So legitimate questions are off-limits, but "pushing buttons" is OK?
I loves me some hypocrites!


Hey I love you to sweety.lolololol

I love it when you push buttons. It's the negativity that gets spuied towards the same person that gets old specially since it stems from things in ancient history.

I don't think anyone on here has a problem when you ask specific technical questions or correct any incorrect information that anyone else may have posted. That brings different points to light which is one of the reasons we get on the forum to learn.

I have never said not to push buttons. I myself on another forum told you it wasn't the same since you stopped pushing buttons.

So I don't think I'm a HYPOCRITE. You hurt my feelings. I think you should apologize right about now.

LMFAO!!!!!

Zoom wanted me to post a question, as I just spoke with him. How can you "Peg the MAF" at 5.9v when it only goes up to 5.0v?

Zoom wanted me to post a question, as I just spoke with him. How can you "Peg the MAF" at 5.9v when it only goes up to 5.0v?

You can't. I don't know what he is talking about. 5.0v is max.

I'm certainly not lazy, and I can... [blah blah blah]

I'm pretty sure I don't read your posts anymore, I just look at the tone in the first sentence.
Yep. I checked. I really don't care.

You hurt my feelings. I think you should apologize right about now.

LMFAO!!!!!

I'm sorry. I'll be more sensitive in the future.

I
Welcome back to the Pettit threads :)

Thanks! Asking to have my access turned off only works for shirt periods until I catch on.

Here's a new thread to discuss this stuff without having to deal with the Pettit-owners dogma:

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=2194012

I'm pretty sure I don't read your posts anymore, I just look at the tone in the first sentence.


Welcome back to the Pettit threads

Thanks! Asking to have my access turned off only works for shirt periods until I catch on.


smooth move quoting the last sentence in my last post...

I was being sincere when I said welcome back :)

And thanks for that link. I can see already how productive that thread is becoming.

Don't visit that link, yet. There are some focus issues with it.

Don't visit that link, yet. There are some focus issues with it.

V 2.0:

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=2194068

Juan, we have a discussion going on this kind of thing in another thread. You're invited to join us if you like.

Moon has been spotted in MD.

Moon has been spotted in MD.

God help the Free State.

Yall have heard of the new coils Mazsport will be offering soon?
oscd

There's a thread or at least a couple of posts around here somewhere about that. I'll see if I can find it.
Did you check their website? Nevermind, I just did and don't see anything but OEM coils, but maybe I missed them?
I know they had prototypes and I thought you could pre-order, but I'm not finding anything at the moment.

There's a thread or at least a couple of posts around here somewhere about that. I'll see if I can find it.
Did you check their website? Nevermind, I just did and don't see anything but OEM coils, but maybe I missed them?
I know they had prototypes and I thought you could pre-order, but I'm not finding anything at the moment.
It was on their site and then was not.

It was on their site and then was not.

Hmmmmm....that's disturbing.....someone should get a hold of Scott and/or Betsy(I think) and ask for an update. I'll PM here and see what's up.

Shifting from 5th to 6th. Gauges (--boost--intake air temp--engine temp--)

Video taken by California Style

Enjoy :eyetwitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lnJXHa6Wd8

Juan was clearly adrenalized during that upshift!

The coils will be available soon
oscd

The coils will be available soon
oscd

According to Betsy's SIG the prototypes are installed on her car so I would imagine they will be out soon.

Shifting from 5th to 6th. Gauges (--boost--intake air temp--engine temp--)

Video taken by California Style

Enjoy :eyetwitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lnJXHa6Wd8

noice vid Juan
thanks for the link!

According to Betsy's SIG the prototypes are installed on her car so I would imagine they will be out soon.

Her sig has been that way for a long time...captain obvious...heh

Her sig has been that way for a long time...captain obvious...heh

I should have copy writed that expression a long time ago...:icon_no2:

what did the pettit stage 2 S/C cost for yall?

what did the pettit stage 2 S/C cost for yall?

http://www.pettitracing.com/rx8/index.htm

I am going to be flashed in janurary---changed my mind. Keeping the int x for now for possible track use. That is to be determined.
Now if i can just talk my wife into buying me that Banzi they have for sale............:)
oscd

I am going to be flashed in janurary---changed my mind. Keeping the int x for now for possible track use. That is to be determined.
Now if i can just talk my wife into buying me that Banzi they have for sale............:)
oscd
I've been lol for the two days since I have seen the posts where you mention that you are going flash. I seem to remember that there was a statement somewhere where you were staying X.:uhh: You change your mind more often than my wife.:) :) Good fortune, not yet sure how the flash is but seeing good reports for the m/t.

I know---seems like I dont know what the hell I am doing. I was going to continue the INT x with tuning but I guess I am getting lazy. I was under the impression also that with the flash a cat was really required---but come to find out it is not. Midpipe use is not a problem. That helped me change my mind a good deal
Now just try explaining all this to my wife:)
Also Cam coming out with some really cool stuff in regard to obd2 port.
I am continuing to get the new coils from Scott and also his twin resonated midpipe. Glad we have all these choices now. Cam and Scott both make great stuff.
i will post pics -----------lol inside joke!
oscd

I know---seems like I dont know what the hell I am doing. I was going to continue the INT x with tuning but I guess I am getting lazy. I was under the impression also that with the flash a cat was really required---but come to find out it is not. Midpipe use is not a problem. That helped me change my mind a good deal
Now just try explaining all this to my wife:)
Also Cam coming out with some really cool stuff in regard to obd2 port.
I am continuing to get the new coils from Scott and also his twin resonated midpipe. Glad we have all these choices now. Cam and Scott both make great stuff.
i will post pics -----------lol inside joke!
oscd
It's not too much of an inside joke, I am still waiting for pictures of the oil dip stick mod. :) :) Have a Merry Christmas.

Speaking of pitures I won a GPS at work. I decided I need to confirm GPS Speed VS the Speedo. The Difference was 1mph with the GPS showning 1mpg less than the GPS.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/MUNCHE187/RX8/156gpsspeed.jpg

Any particular reason you are driving at 156 MPH?

cos he couldn't make it to 157? 8)

cos he couldn't make it to 157? 8)

he actually was at 157 on the speedo !

For the same reason we have superchargers, turbos, nitrous, and all sortsa stuff.

For the same reason we have superchargers, turbos, nitrous, and all sortsa stuff.

To get to a reasonable and prudent speed on a public highway in less time?

To get to a reasonable and prudent speed on a public highway in less time?

that's reasonable and prudent on some public highways :)

Sure it is.

BTW - Mr. Hanky likes blueberry coffee rolls?

Any particular reason you are driving at 156 MPH?

We were coming home on a rural HighWay late last night . It's in the middle of no where there are only 2 gas stations in 30 mile stretch. I had just put gas a few minutes prior. There was no other vehicle on the road and I really needed to get home and take a shit.

I think it was the blueberry coffee rolls I had at the party.:lol:

We were coming home on a rural HighWay late last night . It's in the middle of no where there are only 2 gas stations in 30 mile stretch. I had just put gas a few minutes prior. There was no other vehicle on the road and I really needed to get home and take a shit.

That's a pretty reasonable explanation.
I don't have any problems with high-speed driving.
I just that too often, people do that while they are sharing the road.
There are a few sections between here and Vegas that I cruise pretty regularly at 135+, but I drop back to 90 or so when I have to pass another car.

What have you done to your suspension?
I find the RX-8's steering gets way too light above 130.

I know your human just like us and bend the rules here and there. lolol
I do the same when there is traffic I slow back down to whatever the flow is until I can safely break away from the pack.

The suspension is stock for right now saving money for future mods. I am thinking of either the Tein or K sport coil overs.

I wasn't at that speed for too long. I just wanted to stretch her leggs a little. I did need to get home and unload.

I have 18X9.5 all the way around on 245s. That did help before your are correct after 130mph the car does tend to get light. Also the vented hood in my opinion has added some down force to the equation.

I think laws are for everyone but me.
However, the laws of physics enforce themselves.
Furthermore, if you have ever stood on the upper level of a shopping mall and watched how people walk around, you'll get a good idea of how randomly they drive.

Furthermore, if you have ever stood on the upper level of a shopping mall and watched how people walk around, you'll get a good idea of how randomly they drive.

Oh I have done that but never related it to their driving habits.

Shit what a scary thought.

... and I really needed to get home and take a shit.

Which is a perfectly reasonable, life-critical / emergency excuse. Because we all know what happens: if you don't shit, you die.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Oh I have done that but never related it to their driving habits.

Shit what a scary thought.

You will now!

I always assume that every other driver on the road is out to get me and will do whatever they possibly can to kill both of us.

^^ Must be/have been a motorcycle rider :D: That attitude has kept me alive more than once over the years

yeah my brothers motorbike instructor told him that if you are on a motorbike and in an accident, it ALWAYS your fault, as you have to think for yourself AND the other person....

Good advice I reckon.

^^ Must be/have been a motorcycle rider :D: That attitude has kept me alive more than once over the years

riding my motorcylcle is my version of the best video game ever.. the name of the game is THEY ARE ALL TRYING TO KILL YOU....

if you lose you lose.


beers :beer:

I always assume that every other driver on the road is out to get me and will do whatever they possibly can to kill both of us.

You must live in FL?
I almost die on a daily basis, its my agressive driving that keeps me alive, and my exhuast that probably alterts people when to keep the f**k out of my way.
anyway, I hope everyone gets the change to top out their car at least once. Its exhilarating.. Ive gone 165 in our BMW850, but the 8 at 152 was funner. I know our top speed is supposedly drag enforced, but has anyone with FI broken 155?

Take a look at post #923. I agree to an extent on the driving thing as I have driven commercial trucks and the way people wear blinders when driving is ridiculous. However, I have also discovered my gas pedal to be a better way of avoiding trouble than my brake pedal.

my exhuast that probably alterts people when to keep the f**k out of my way.
anyway, but has anyone with FI broken 155?

lolol I Since I tool the CAT out it has made driving better. Everyone hears me coming if they don't move and I rev the engine they get out quick.

Check earliewr posts I posted a pic of my GPS when I topped out at 156mph. There is room for a little more but I don't have the suspension needed and I should add a different wing to add more down force.

Do you guys think the Mazda spped one would be good enough?

I don't want to have to get some big as ugly wing.

150 is not fast enough for a normal (not the MS, anyway) wing to produce any useful downforce.
Plus, its not the back end you want to stick.
You need to change the airflow under the car. A splitter (a real one that is bolted to the frame, not a fake, stick-on model) and a rear diffuser will do more for keeping down the float than the MS wing.

150 is not fast enough for a normal (not the MS, anyway) wing to produce any useful downforce.
Plus, its not the back end you want to stick.
You need to change the airflow under the car. A splitter (a real one that is bolted to the frame, not a fake, stick-on model) and a rear diffuser will do more for keeping down the float than the MS wing.

I agree but where in hell can you find one? If there is any engineering and drawings as to what it should look like for our cars and where it should attach maybe I can have one made. Not being an engineer keeps me from designing one or looking at someone else's offering for our use.

lolol I Since I tool the CAT out it has made driving better. Everyone hears me coming if they don't move and I rev the engine they get out quick.

Check earliewr posts I posted a pic of my GPS when I topped out at 156mph. There is room for a little more but I don't have the suspension needed and I should add a different wing to add more down force.

Do you guys think the Mazda spped one would be good enough?

I don't want to have to get some big as ugly wing.

You might wanna get a roll cage and a good five point harness instead of the wing first! :lol2:

You might wanna get a roll cage and a good four point harness instead of the wing!
I agree that the addition of the roll cage and a five point harness is a good idea, but the addition of the front splitter would offer enough high speed down force to make the car more stable at high speeds. The existing appearance package wing is just coming into being useful at 130mph and offers no real front end down force that is needed. We have so many engineers that post on the forum, one of them should be able to design a splitter to offer down force that will keep the 8 from becoming airborne at 150mph

funny I was just thinking the same thing----for the 1st time since my install, i went thru 4th and a little in 5th so i let up at around 130. 2 lane road.
After having the na version on the track many time---guess I have about 1.5k miles on the track with her--- I can say this. This changes everything.:0
Let me explain my opinion:
1-- before on the track this was basically a momentum car. This means that lines are taken to keep the momentum up and you focused on making up ground in braking zones and the corners. In the exit speed was high enough then you had a fair chance on the straightaways. The car was like a go kart in a way---very toss able and easy to recover. There was little lift throttle over steer, or full throttle under steer. Easy to drive through the corners. High speeds (over 115 or so) was stable and you felt connected.
Oh by the way I have a GT oem stock exterior --no appearance kit , no wing.
i have koni's (yellows) and tein h springs with RB rollbars and end links. I run stock brakes with carbotec xp8's. ss lines and the ms front brace with master cylinder brace Super blue fluid. I run 17x8 wheels with hoosiers 225/45/17.
Nothing really special but a good basic package.
2--well things have changed!! No longer a momentum car. More lift throttle understeer and a LOT more full throttle oversteer on exit. Things have to change but where do i begin?
When i was at high speed and still accelerating the car felt "light' and the steering was not as connected as before.l
Ok I have a fair amount of front end lift all the way thru 4th gear. This means my chassis is going to be going thru much more lift, dip and even yaw at certain times.. Now what do I do? Air kit? If I get a front lip/splitter i will also have to get a rear diffuser. And i really dont like that look. If I stiffen the suspension more the rear end is going to get even MORE tail happy.
i really hate to admit this but looks like I am going to have to speak with the vettes and Stangs crowds.
Back to square one as far as tracking!
Also it looks like I will lose my track cherry at one of the hardest tracks around Road Atlanta in March.
Suggestions?
oscd

Maybe I can get a fat chick to sit on the tip of my hood.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/MUNCHE187/SEXY/FatSlobEatingPie.jpg

Think she'll give me enough down force.

Holy Mother of God! And we wonder why out health insurance premiums are so high.
oscd

Could've gone my whole life without seeing that! Thanks! :puke:

Could've gone my whole life without seeing that! Thanks! :puke:
Maybe I can get a fat chick to sit on the tip of my hood.

I thing crush the hood would be more like it. Might be too much down force cuz the rear wheels would be off the ground.:) :)

Technically, a front splitter is a piece of cake.
Fitment on a street vehicle is going to be the issue.
If you just take the line of the lower accent on the MS bumper and extend it out in all directions about 2" you will have the piece. Except that it has to go all the way under the front of the car and be bolted solidly to the lower parts of the frame.
In CF, it would only need to be 3/8" thick. In aluminum, it could be done in 8 - 10 GA.

I think laws are for everyone but me.
However, the laws of physics enforce themselves.
Furthermore, if you have ever stood on the upper level of a shopping mall and watched how people walk around, you'll get a good idea of how randomly they drive.

Is that with or with out a cell phone?

Is that with or with out a cell phone?

Probably doesn't matter.

One of the things that has shocked me most is, after talking with "normal" people over the years, that most find driving "boring" and use it as time to catch up on other things!
There really is a sense amongst the riffraff that driving is nearly "automatic" and that, even though they are the driver, they approach the task as a passenger.

Plus the notion many people have that "multi-tasking" is a good thing and that they are masterful at it. Mutli-tasking behind the wheel while not being very good at it anywhere and being delusional about it in the first place is not a good combination.

Well the new cars are not helping any.

With infared sensors for active crusie control and automatic parellel parking, plus the DVD in the front dash to watch your favorite Movie or TV show.

I may never buy a new car again. This one already does too much stuff for me.
I need an Ariel Atom...

its official...ive been flashed....omg...thats all i can say....moon and myself worked in the rain yesterday (actually moon did most of the work - i held the umbrella)
we finished it up today....

i cant tell you how happy i am...

:)

Shink, now ya gotta get back to Nelson's place........:)

MORE INFO______PLEASE
oscd

ok OSCD...you wanted more info!!

since mine was the first commercial install...we had a little bit more plumbing to do...2 trips to the pep boys and one to home depot...
the MAFS that cam sent out to be made were done incorrectly...consequently we had to fabricate one on our own....we used the factory maf from my old air box...made a coupler (my home depot trip) and added a new K&N...
I still have a CEL cuz im runnin a straight pipe...im having the cat put back on friday and will keep it on for around 2k or so...dont know if i'll switch back...will decide that at a later date...

no decel pops....my wideband is reading where its supposed to be.....the idle is smoother than a factory 8...

the drivability................no words to describe......

:celebrate :celebrate :celebrate

Moon was great..bound and determine to finish the car even in the bad weather...
he is an asset to the pettit organization...

Shink, now ya gotta get back to Nelson's place........:)

im sure i'll get a free dyno!!!.....

especially since Chuck (lurch519) is now a FTE.... :)

Shouldn't it be possible to get the PCM to ignore certain parameters, like the cat efficiency threshhold, and never turn on the CEL? I wonder if re-flashing can do that?

Chuck is working at Evolution? Doing what?

everything and anything thats electrical!!

:D:

Shouldn't it be possible to get the PCM to ignore certain parameters, like the cat efficiency threshhold, and never turn on the CEL? I wonder if re-flashing can do that?

I dont know the in and outs of the flash...
im not worried about the CEL tho....
since i put less than 5k on the car per year....no emissions testing

Plus the notion many people have that "multi-tasking" is a good thing and that they are masterful at it. Mutli-tasking behind the wheel while not being very good at it anywhere and being delusional about it in the first place is not a good combination.

They belong on a bus so the driving doesn't get in there way.

Good for Chuck(he is a really nice guy). I think my cat is wasted now as I am getting a 420 CEL, probably from using the different injection oils that I have been.

Munche, is it X-Mas for ya yet?

I still have a CEL cuz im runnin a straight pipe...im having the cat put back on friday and will keep it on for around 2k or so...dont know if i'll switch back...will decide that at a later date...

no decel pops....my wideband is reading where its supposed to be.....the idle is smoother than a factory 8...

the drivability................no words to describe......



Congrats on the Flash.

No need for a CAT. Leave it off. It will be one less thing to worry about. My CEL light has come on twice in 5k since the flash. It goes away on it's own.

You will get flames now when you shift at the higher RPM WOT. Only thing that bugs me is YOU DON'T DRIVE YOUR RX8 ENOUGH!!!!!!!!

Munche, is it X-Mas for ya yet?

:icon_no2: No not yet

I'll follow up after the holidays when they are open again. I'll shoot out a mail today to be sure they get it. Sorry about that. I triple-checked to make sure they had your address correct.


Catless exhausts and power-adders=nice flames that scare ricer kids in the next lane.

SWEET WORDS! Thanks for the feedback. On the midpipe issue--Scott at Mazsport has a double resonated one that is almost as quite as the system with a cat. makes them on demand.:)
On the maf pipe?? Whats up with that? I already placed the oem maf pipe on my intake system and found a 3"K&N filter that fits and all i had to do was to run the mafpipe up in the filter more to clear the front. That way i can keep the same distance of the tube also. I have been wondering about the Revi maf pipe i have and using the velocity stack with it---just to smooth out the airflow for the maf.

GLAD yours is working well----MERRY CHRISTMAS!! COME ON JANUARY !
oscd

Congrats on the Flash.

YOU DON'T DRIVE YOUR RX8 ENOUGH!!!!!!!!

hey....i dont push the envelop....im a ole lady that works 1.5mi from home....lol
but i can tell you now....i will definitely drive it more....

flash=driving it more, enjoying it more, WOT more....


w00t for WOT!!!

:D:

SWEET WORDS! Thanks for the feedback. On the midpipe issue--Scott at Mazsport has a double resonated one that is almost as quite as the system with a cat. makes them on demand.:)
On the maf pipe?? Whats up with that? I already placed the oem maf pipe on my intake system and found a 3"K&N filter that fits and all i had to do was to run the mafpipe up in the filter more to clear the front. That way i can keep the same distance of the tube also. I have been wondering about the Revi maf pipe i have and using the velocity stack with it---just to smooth out the airflow for the maf.

GLAD yours is working well----MERRY CHRISTMAS!! COME ON JANUARY !
oscd

the maf that was on my car (originally installed with the blower) was too small in ID to work with the flash..
thats why we had to make a MAF....i will be changing this out when the new MAFs come in...

PS....gap your plugs at 35 per pettit rec.....it will help with your coil burnout....using the x attributes to early burnout...
im putting in new plugs (denso iridiums - gapped at 35)

PS....gap your plugs at 35 per pettit rec.....it will help with your coil burnout....using the x attributes to early burnout...
im putting in new plugs (denso iridiums - gapped at 35)

I'm not even going to address the obliquity of the Int-X burning coils, but exactly how are you going to gap RX-8 plugs?
Denso doesn't make an iridium RX-8 plug.
They make RX-7 iridium plugs (which are a waste of money because platings like iridium, platinum and such are for longevity, not performance), but you wouldn't put those in your car, would you?

I'm not even going to address the obliquity of the Int-X burning coils, but exactly how are you going to gap RX-8 plugs?


I'm' pretty sure you've ready this thread already, but I'll refresh your memory:

http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=2202045&postcount=1121

So, she has gone to an RX-7 plug with a beam (bad idea for FI in general), and gapping it down because the OE coils won't last long enough on the Int-X?
Is that correct?

Any particular reason you are driving at 156 MPH?

Has your car seen any speed close to that or are you just scared itl fall apart.

Welcome to last week's conversation.

Has your car seen any speed close to that or are you just scared itl fall apart.

I don't often go above 130 on the street.
I'm not worried about it falling apart - none of the parts were installed by you.

On the track, it spent a fair amount of its time on the rev limiter.

Pussy, it dosnt get fun till you hit over 140, not that my auto did that but 900rr had seen 160 many a time. And yes, I rebuilt it after I blew 3rd gear out and its still together and owned by a good friend of mine whos spraying and does alot of 1/4s. Ive got over 200 different motors ive built from different machines ranging from cars, motorcycles, and jetskies on the books with no problems. Your record wich youve admitted isnt as dead on, isnt it 2 or is it 3 motors youve blown and had some excuse for. PS the motor in my truck has more miles since I built it a few months ago then just about any that youve built. Ow, also did you buy a supercharger cause this is a thread for owners not posers.

Why are you opening this can of worms again?
You can't make a valid point here by re-hashing your old bits of ignorance, so maybe its best if you just let it go.

140 MPH is for the track, not the street. If I'm a pussy for not wanting to be involved in accidents with innocents, than so be it.

Cause your not an owner and you dont belong here. Go play with your turbo buddys or did you piss them off so bad they even dont want any part of ya. Point is, you do not own a supercharged 8. Look at the thread topic. Im not opening another can of worms, im just stating the facts. Id seen what you posted on another thread that was deleted calling me a pussy and to be frank, I dont give a crap what you think. My point again YOU OWN NO SUPERCHARGED 8, go play with your turbos, somewere else. If anyone has a problem with that let them speak.

I'll post wherever I please.

I've left you alone and I've kept out of your politics lately because others far more eloquent than you asked me to.
But every time I see something wrong, bad or misinformed posted in this thread or any other, I am going to contribute.
If you don't like what I have to say, than either engage in the discussion or ignore it. Attacking me personally isn't convincing anyone but you and your fans. Precious few people reading these exchanges are ignorant enough to be persuaded by anything you say.
Its really that simple.
I don't own a supercharged RX-8 because I don't want one. That doesn't mean its a bad choice. You and your "S/C buddies" have spent enough energy trying to equivocate my statement that Cam's "system" being improperly executed is the same as the idea that I believe that superchargers in general are bad. What a red herring.
Superchargers aren't the problem - its you that is the problem with this system.

Lets be frank - I called you a "pussy" (and deleted that comment with a footnote) because that is what you are.
I don't care if you take your bike up to 200 MPH. That doesn't change the fact that you believe you're a bad-ass until you are face to face with people. (If you are doing that on the street, it also means you are equally stupid.)
You are just like the rest of the e-gangsters out there. You had your chance. I have it on tape.
You can grease as many installs as you can get under your fingernails, it won't change the fact that you are the actual poser in this forum and in life in general.
I've blown up motors so others hopefully won't have to. If you haven't blown a motor at this point in your "career" that just means you aren't trying hard enough.

I anxiously await your next excellent post. Please feel free to use spell check.
To bad Microsoft doesn't make an applet called "syntax and logic check".

Image..........http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/MUNCHE187/misc/dog-scoops-man.jpg...........removed, oversize, the limit is 20k........S
lol

LOL, if you only had a clue, see ya soon.

I'd really love a clue. It would go well with this pumpkin pie.

posted buy MM

I've blown up motors so others hopefully won't have to. If you haven't blown a motor at this point in your "career" that just means you aren't trying hard enough.

Na, it just meens im doing things the rite way.

Na, it just meens im doing things the rite way.

Ahh. So Norwood, Bell, Shelby, Warner, Alamo, Skunk and the rest have been doing it the wrong way? Interesting.
So, why do I (and others) have to keep fixing the things you are "doing"?

EDIT - instead of clogging up your benefactor's forum area, why don't you start a thread in the lounge so we can continue this fascinating discussion without subjecting those who are not interested in your drivel to such abuse?

The narrow gapping of the plugs per cam is to reduce the strain on the stock coils. had nothing to do with the int x or the fact FI is involved. (well maybe a little that fi is involved.) The new coild will again allow a wider gapping now. This is a good thing. i still run the oem plugs. At my hp level they are ok.
I wonder what are the specs on the proper maf intake pipe? Anyone have a pic of the right one?
MM and Moon --with all due respect (and that is a lot) just want to say MM thank you for the suggestion of moving yall's discussion to another thread. That may be a good idea. It would be great if yall could find some common ground, put both of yalls knoweledge and skill together someway and it would be VERY good.
oscd

So, she has gone to an RX-7 plug with a beam (bad idea for FI in general), and gapping it down because the OE coils won't last long enough on the Int-X?
Is that correct?

Here are two interesting pics. One is of an after market NGK plug for the rotary which has no tab, this cannot be gapped. The other pic shows the rx-8 leading plug on the far left and the rx-8 trailing plug on the far right(the middle one is just for comparison). As can be seen there is a tab in both RX-8 plugs. It is very simple, if you move the tab towards the center electrode, you have effectively reduced the gap. I don't understand where the impossibility of this lies.
Chris

Bolded and underlined to help with reading comprehension.

here are some pics for informational purposes:

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4562/pc250156nx4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2600/pc250158xx1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

the pic below is the DENSO IRIDIUM Leading Plug for the RX8 (not RX7)

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7609/pc250164xy7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

part numbers and stock numbers for the rx8 and rx7 plugs are totally different...

RX8 plugs (http://www.sparkplugs.com/results_app.asp?productTypeID=1&AAIA=1431319)

Once again - you DO NOT want to introduce a beamed leading plug into your system.
Enjoy.

now that christmas morning has come and gone....

what was under your tree??

my sons got me a Wii with the sports package...some DVDs
the new bruce willis movie
and first season of carnavale...
got an extra gig of ram for my new laptop ...

more presents on the way!!

w00t for presents....

;)

I anxiously await your next excellent post. Please feel free to use spell check.
To bad Microsoft doesn't make an applet called "syntax and logic check".


Oh, the irony of that last sentence KILLS me....

"To bad"

HAHAHAHA

Spell check wouldn't have caught it, but I think you meant "Too bad"

That's almost as good as when Bush said "Childrens do learn" when he was talking about education.

I love it! Nobudie's purfekt

Merry Christmas to all the owners.

Oh, the irony of that last sentence KILLS me....

Wow. I'm glad you got that one. I didn't think anyone in your club would have grasped irony.


Merry Christmas to all the owners.

And f*ck the rest because they don't BELIEVE!:rock:

Wow. I'm glad you got that one. I didn't think anyone in your club would have grasped irony.

You'd be surprised.


And f*ck the rest because they don't BELIEVE!:rock:

If you're "the rest," sure; Otherwise, Merry Christmas ;)

Being as careful as I can not to misspell any words :yesnod: : MERRY CHRISTMAS

Being as careful as I can not to misspell any words :yesnod: : MERRY CHRISTMAS

:naughty:

what was under your tree phil?

:naughty:

what was under your tree phil?
Actually nothing for me except smiles and heart felt "thank you"s. I tell my father, siblings, kids, grandkids, wife and friends that just having them is all I want. I enjoy watching their faces as they open their gifts. Spoiling my grandkids is fun cuz that's how I get even with the kids. Oh am I really going to enjoy spoiling my great granddaughter.

Actually nothing for me except smiles and heart felt "thank you"s. I tell my father, siblings, kids, grandkids, wife and friends that just having them is all I want. I enjoy watching their faces as they open their gifts. Spoiling my grandkids is fun cuz that's how I get even with the kids. Oh am I really going to enjoy spoiling my great granddaughter.

family is the "best" gift to have under the tree...

im so grateful for what i have....my sons turned out really great in spite of their mother and father....thats priceless...
:)

If you're "the rest," sure; Otherwise, Merry Christmas ;)

Wow. You are an asshole.
Oh well, Happy Holidays, anyway. To everyone.

You asked what was under the Christmas tree.

Well, how about a Snow Performance Stage II kit. :wiggle:

See attached pixs.

It is awesome. :eyetwitch :eyetwitch :eyetwitch

See attached more pixs a couple of videos I took with my digital camera.

Sorry but no sound and I was holding the camera while shifting and driving like you stole it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiAWkhmh9lk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX3GmMlIKz0

Next month I'm heading back to the dyno to do a few runs with the methanol nozzle before the TB, after the TB (current position) and after the SC. The dyno will tell the best position for the nozzle.

Current butt dyno indicates...Hell yes, meth is great! :eyetwitch :eyetwitch :eyetwitch