Pettit Super Charger Owners [Archive] - Page 2

Mazurfer

10-27-2007, 08:15 PM

If you need an extra set of hands, let me know.

"G"..........I did the sways today!
Back sway was cake, front took a little longer......as I was by myself and getting the bar out and in by yourself takes a little bit.
I didn't want to drop the tray, so I just took my time and went from one side of the car to the other about 30 times!
No trouble with the endlinks, didn't even have to use the 5mm hex when taking the old ones off.
I did have to use it for a short time when putting the new ones on, but it's all good.......no worries! :ylsuper:

Only went for about a ten minutes drive and really couldn't throw it into any corners, but those I did take felt really good and stable!
I'll push it harder tomorrow, but I can tell it's got less body roll already. :yesnod:

shinka213

10-27-2007, 08:20 PM

"G"..........I did the sways today!
Back sway was cake, front took a little longer......as I was by myself and getting the bar out and in by yourself takes a little bit.
I didn't want to drop the tray, so I just took my time and went from one side of the car to the other about 30 times!
No trouble with the endlinks, didn't even have to use the 5mm hex when taking the old ones off.
I did have to use it for a short time when putting the new ones on, but it's all good.......no worries! :ylsuper:

Only went for about a ten minutes drive and really couldn't throw it into any corners, but those I did take felt really good and stable!
I'll push it harder tomorrow, but I can tell it's got less body roll already. :yesnod:

i definitely noticed a big difference when i put my sways on (Eibachs) front and rear...
:)

Mazurfer

10-27-2007, 08:31 PM

i definitely noticed a big difference when i put my sways on (Eibachs) front and rear...
:)

Tell you what, my townhome only has a small single garage Pat, and it's so tight in there. My knees are killing me! Getting too old for this crap! Actually it feels pretty good, just tired. Yeah, I can feel the difference in the sways, but as I said.....I go push it some tomorrow,
Oh......BTW......I don't have much left besides just going down and getting that SC. :naughty: I'm about out of stuff to do! :scratchhe :rollingla

shinka213

10-27-2007, 08:43 PM

Tell you what, my townhome only has a small single garage Pat, and it's so tight in there. My knees are killing me! Getting too old for this crap! Actually it feels pretty good, just tired. Yeah, I can feel the difference in the sways, but as I said.....I go push it some tomorrow,
Oh......BTW......I don't have much left besides just going down and getting that SC. :naughty: I'm about out of stuff to do! :scratchhe :rollingla

yeah...funny you should mention that...i was gonna ask ya when were ya gonna head to WPB???

we put my sways on at an install meet and we had the benefit of a lift...
we took off the front tray since we could get under it really easy...i stuck with the stock end links....
of course, the rear was a sinch...
one of the best mods i got (bargain for the buck)
:D:

Bastage

10-27-2007, 09:28 PM

Tell you what, my townhome only has a small single garage Pat, and it's so tight in there. My knees are killing me! Getting too old for this crap! Actually it feels pretty good, just tired. Yeah, I can feel the difference in the sways, but as I said.....I go push it some tomorrow,
Oh......BTW......I don't have much left besides just going down and getting that SC. :naughty: I'm about out of stuff to do! :scratchhe :rollingla

When you're ready to drop the car off, let me know, I'd be happy to drive you back from there.

Also, if you ever need any extra hands or space, you're welcome to bring your car to my garage.

munche187

10-29-2007, 02:37 PM

Thank you all for the bday wishes

funklove

10-29-2007, 03:23 PM

Is that sensor input on the X programmable to accept any sensor input or just IAT?
I think not. I don't have this problem solved.
News: Scott from mazsport said me they have a "sensor in stock location".

funklove

10-29-2007, 03:52 PM

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funklove

10-31-2007, 04:40 AM

What Scott is saying, I think, is that the Int X uses the factory IAT sensor and the input port we are talking about is intended for an external wideband O2 sensor. IIRC, the input is a 1/8" female "audio" type plug, which is what the Innovate Wideband LC-1 unit, for example, uses for output to EMSs. Thus, a simple mono audio cable with 1/8" male ends will suffice.

If I remember, the LC-1 "jack" output has digital interface for laptop.
I need IntX compatible IAT for 5/8 npt hole in pettit's intake.
__________________________
Another way is to do not use microtech logging options. Zeitronix is the best! :)

Phil's 8

10-31-2007, 07:45 AM

funklove

10-31-2007, 09:09 AM

I have got to see how Vice Grip is going to pull off the map on page one for a Russian owner. I must have missed the posting that welcomed the new owner Funk Love, so belatedly I welcome you to the group of Pettit Owners.
Thank you!
Im not a RX-8 owner :smoker: But i bought and installed kit for our moscow customer.
I'm happy with this great product and will buy 3-4 kits next year for russian RX-8 owners.

morkusyambo

11-01-2007, 10:30 AM

Hey Guys and gal. I'm sure Cam mentioned this allready, but check the tension of your belts. I noticed after around 1k with the kit that boost started capping at 6.5 pounds. I tightened the belt and am back to an eight pound baby.

For those that are running the Int-X map from Cam; Is the car running smoothly, because the map i'm using(not Cam's) is so rich, I am literally breathing my own gasoline everytime I drive.

munche187

11-01-2007, 06:06 PM

When I did have the map from Cam it did not run rich. Yes it was running smoothly. Cam has my dongle with those maps.Maybe you can send him your dongle and have my old maps copied over.

Moon Assad

11-01-2007, 10:06 PM

Cams car is officialy hooked on meth. The A/I kit is installed and runs better then we perdicted. It almost freezes the intake pre blower and post I/C temps are colder then ambiant. The longer you run it in boost the colder it seems to get. Who woulda thought.

olddragger

11-01-2007, 10:25 PM

damn--- drive fast and cool your beer at the same time---:)
olddragger

Moon Assad

11-01-2007, 10:33 PM

You up and running yet?

olddragger

11-01-2007, 11:20 PM

firing her up Saturday---been doing some "extra" stuff.
1-moved the firewall heater hose-- it now goes under the car
,2- oil filter relocation with aircraft fittings and stainless steel lines to the passenger side firewall,
3- custom windshield washer bottle
4-did a custom mod on the airbox defector tray (none of that rough stuff now visable)
5-fashioned custom cai to the engine bay (filter is still pettit stock)
6-got custom sock for filter
7-made hard mount for the vacuum tank thingy
8-did NICE looms for my gauge wiring and firewall mounted them.
9-did a little fuel line mod--mine felt like it had a little to much tension on it
10- did custom coil grounding cable separate from the oem loom one
11- fabricated a bigger air pick up for the pcm and int x box(have you ever fell how hot those things get?)
12- reinforced the oem undertray air channa----l the oem mount allows them to bend back at 60mph!
13 have removed the front bucktooth from the airdam area---you wouldnt believe how much air flow that thing was interfering with
14-- capped the tb coolant hoses--not just rerouted
15---trying to firgue out exactly what to do with the air conditioner hard line near the firewall.
16 designed a reroute for one of the a/w cooler hoses
It's looking good.
It is fun to take my time with it. Sure have learned alot.
Steve Kan will be in Atlanta (75 miles away) next w/e and I have my car on his list
stay tuned
OD.

munche187

11-01-2007, 11:25 PM

pics are required from this point forward.

shinka213

11-01-2007, 11:33 PM

^ +1

munche187

11-01-2007, 11:35 PM

morkusyambo

11-02-2007, 07:19 AM

^+1

morkusyambo

11-02-2007, 07:24 AM

Correct me if i'm wrong, but Pettit says our blower cannot turn more than 15k without losing its reliability. Having said that, if the A/I is as good as advertised, then we should push our blowers to the limit!

Moon Assad

11-02-2007, 10:32 AM

Well, id consider this stage 2.5. Were going to dyno it hopfully today so ill keep you posted.

Phil's 8

11-02-2007, 10:36 AM

firing her up Saturday---been doing some "extra" stuff.
..........................................OD.

There will be pictures, or else :rl:

munche187

11-02-2007, 10:39 AM

What time will you be dynoing?

olddragger

11-02-2007, 11:34 AM

Saturday is crank day---pics(during install and finished product) and credits and such will be posted if my teenagers will show me how to do it again.
The airbox mod is turning out pretty cool. involves plexaglass painted flat back and aluminum strips as edging.
CAI for engine bay involves the usual corrugated 4":smoker: pipe routed down to the grill area(with appropriate mounts etc.
OD

mdw1000

11-02-2007, 12:11 PM

I posted this in its own thread, but I'm guessing a lot of people never check the Pettit section overall, just come straight to the SC threads. So I just want to hijack long enough to put a link to this question on the reflash: http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=129935

munche187

11-02-2007, 12:16 PM

I just spoke with Moon the car on the dyno only has the S/C kit,FLash and A/I.
It just dynoed 298WHP!!!!

Brettus

11-02-2007, 02:00 PM

I just spoke with Moon the car on the dyno only has the S/C kit,FLash and A/I.
It just dynoed 298WHP!!!!

Wow - great news . More details or else :tank:

Bastage

11-02-2007, 02:12 PM

I think I'm going to have the best Christmas ever this year :)

morkusyambo

11-02-2007, 03:39 PM

I just spoke with Moon the car on the dyno only has the S/C kit,FLash and A/I.
It just dynoed 298WHP!!!!

Is that w/stage 2, or 3 pulley?!?!?

Red Devil

11-02-2007, 03:51 PM

Is that w/stage 2, or 3 pulley?!?!?

What he said.

Phil's 8

11-02-2007, 03:52 PM

I think I'm going to have the best Christmas ever this year :)

My Christmas started a couple of months ago and shows no end in sight.:celebrate

munche187

11-02-2007, 04:16 PM

Is that w/stage 2, or 3 pulley?!?!?

I went by the shop. The final dyno number 301whp. With the stage II pulley.

munche187

11-02-2007, 04:19 PM

After the run the intercooler was cold.

morkusyambo

11-02-2007, 04:37 PM

I went by the shop. The final dyno number 301whp. With the stage II pulley.

Awesome

marsredr100

11-02-2007, 08:08 PM

To all:

I got MIL DTC P2119 Throttle actuator control throttle body range/performance problem and the car only revs up to 3k rpms.

Any ideas of how to check for this?

marsredr100

11-02-2007, 08:56 PM

If that doesn't uncover anything, check your ECT sensor and harness.

Thanks Charles

I'll let you know in about half hour. Also, when I erase the code everything works fine but after acouple of starts, the code returns and back to 3k rpm. Everything else looks fine (start, idle and so on). :banghead:

marsredr100

11-02-2007, 09:19 PM

That'll happen. It's a continuous monitor that the PCM does, for obvious reasons, and you may just have a problematic connection on either your throttle body or gas pedal connectors.

Is there any work you've done near these areas in the past day or so?

The deal with checking the ECT is that the PCM puts engine in a high-idle mode and slowly drops the idle speed as the engine warms up. If the PCM doesn't see the engine getting warmer it will disallow the throttle to go beyond a certain point. That could be the issue, too. Is it running rich all of a sudden?

Everything checked out OK but same problems. BTW ECT?

The only thing I have done recently was a home made ground kit. Basically I installed three ground wires directly to the battery negative post. One to the engine block (below the plugs) same place where the OEM is located. One to the lower intake manifold (same place as the OEM location). And one to one of the strut tower bolts.

marsredr100

11-02-2007, 09:36 PM

Juan, what you're saying is that you checked out the action of the throttle body butterfly with the intake duct removed and when someone pushes the gas pedal to the floor the butterfly goes wide open?

That is in addition to checking the wires/connections on the TB and accelerator pedal plugs?

Is it possible that your coolant is low?

ECT=Engine Coolant Temperature sensor.

Ground points are a big deal on the 8. Maybe remove those three wires from the battery and see if anything changes.

The butterfly does not wide opens with the engine off. Only when the engine is running. However, the throttle body goes thru its normal on/off self check.

marsredr100

11-02-2007, 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=Charles R. Hill;2124276]How do you check the butterfly with the engine running and the intake duct removed?

I have a a 13 yo son and I got him to step on the gas while I looked the the butterfly and the car runs even if the MAF and intake piece is of the throttle intake.

Still have the same problem and all the extra ground cables are off the car now.:dunno:

marsredr100

11-02-2007, 10:12 PM

The rest of the diagnosis involves reading sensor data from the MDS system or checking continuity/resistance. Do you have a service manual?

I have it on a CD and it is also available online.

marsredr100

11-02-2007, 10:16 PM

I'll try again tomorrow and also take the car for a drive. It was sitting in the garage for three weeks and maybe needs a little spanking.

Moon Assad

11-02-2007, 10:34 PM

It sounds like its going into limp mode for some reason. Try unhooking the interceptor and see if it runs and if you can drive it. DO NOT BOOST.

olddragger

11-02-2007, 10:42 PM

you dont have the intt x on a pit row map do ya?
I dont know what the hell I am talking about.
Still trying to figue out how to get the purge valve line hooked up. Have asked friend for advice and waiting his help.
OD

swoope

11-03-2007, 01:29 AM

shinka213

11-03-2007, 08:55 AM

well...it looks like im just gonna have to bit the bullet and ship her down early next year for the 8psi pulley :evil_laug , the flash and some meth...

YEAH!!!!!!!!

morkusyambo

11-03-2007, 09:55 AM

Did they make 300whp because the charge temps were so much cooler, or from being able to change the ignition timing??

Phil's 8

11-03-2007, 11:01 AM

As I sit quietly in the back ground with my poor underpowered Pettit s/c a/t.:crying: Again, the a/t must suffer and endure - no flash for us:crying: :(

marsredr100

11-03-2007, 11:54 AM

It sounds like its going into limp mode for some reason. Try unhooking the interceptor and see if it runs and if you can drive it. DO NOT BOOST.

I'll try that later today.

Drove the car this morning after clearing the P2119 code for about 30 minutes with no problems at all. I drove it slow, fast, cruising, like you stole it mode and everything worked OK. Got home, let is sit for an hour, crank and same thing P2119 code and back to 3k rpms. Turned it off, clear code, crank and no problems at all. This is driving me crazy :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Any more suggestions?

shinka213

11-03-2007, 01:32 PM

As I sit quietly in the back ground with my poor underpowered Pettit s/c a/t.:crying: Again, the a/t must suffer and endure - no flash for us:crying: :(

dont worry phil....they will build it! :)

Phil's 8

11-03-2007, 03:15 PM

Don't let Phil fool ya. He's got PLENTY of toys comin' his way! You know how he loves to have the first of whatever........:lol2:

Rat fink........I was trying to get a little simpathy here.:)

Moon Assad

11-03-2007, 04:57 PM

Your gona get a flash when its ready, send me some cash to get my car fixed and itl happen faster:rolleyes:

jskup1

11-03-2007, 04:58 PM

You're going to go ahead and fix your car now Moon?

rx81989

11-03-2007, 05:23 PM

Phil's 8

11-03-2007, 05:35 PM

Im looking to get a Carbon fiber Hood for my 04, titaniam gray rx8....know of and good companies that make a good one...I am afraid that after i order it and go to put it on that it might not fit well.....If you know of any i would really appreciate it.

How about you post this request in the Exterior & Body Kit forum. I'm sure you will get a better response - This is the Pettit Super Charger Owners forum. If you don't get a response in the proper forum in a reasonable length of time, PM me and I will get you the help you need.

Mazurfer

11-03-2007, 06:40 PM

Juan,

If you need the service manuals, PM me with your home E-mail and I'll send them. I don't know if they are still available online or not, but I have them all.

Mazurfer

11-03-2007, 08:03 PM

I believe Juan said he has them on c.d.

Yeah.....for some reason that post didn't display when I was reading through this.....oh well.
Either that or I've had way too much cough medicine today! :rolleyes:

marsredr100

11-03-2007, 10:08 PM

I wonder what has happened since Juan last posted?

Still here. I cleaned the throttle contacts and so far no P2119 trouble code. I'll let it sit overnight and see what happens tomorrow. The problem is that I can't drive the car around because it doesn't have the nose. I purchased a RB Type II nose and after less than a week on the car I had a little encounter with wet grass and a pond. To long of a story to tell but it had to do with semi bald tires, cold tires, traction control off and not getting used to the additional power. Anyways, I got new rubber all the way around and the nose has been sitting at the body shop for over three weeks and waiting for it. The person that painted the nose and currently working on it is JD's Paint and Body shop, he is featured in the Mopar Muscle Magazine and a very nice guy. Hopefuly I'll get the nose next week since I would like to run an AutoX next Saturday in Orlando.

marsredr100

11-03-2007, 10:12 PM

Your gona get a flash when its ready, send me some cash to get my car fixed and itl happen faster:rolleyes:

Moon, let Cam know that as soon as I get my car going (need the nose back from the body shop) I'm going to give him a call to set up a day to take my car down to the shop.

Mazurfer

11-03-2007, 10:15 PM

Well.....before your little fishing expedition.....how was the fitment of the RB II nose? I was thinking about that whole kit at one time. Hopefully you didn't mess it up too terribly bad.

Ouch! Nevermind......I just saw the pics in the other thread!

marsredr100

11-03-2007, 10:17 PM

See below before and after accident pix per comment above.

Thank God I miss the three palm trees in front and no damage to the car except for the nose.

marsredr100

11-03-2007, 10:21 PM

Well.....before your little fishing expedition.....how was the fitment of the RB II nose? I was thinking about that whole kit at one time. Hopefully you didn't mess it up too terribly bad.

Fitment was great, just prep and paint. No fish in the pond but a nice gator wondering WTF!

I haven't decide if to get the RB skirt and wing or a the MS one.

munche187

11-03-2007, 11:19 PM

juan if you would have hit the gator you could have had a unique interior.

olddragger

11-04-2007, 12:19 AM

One suggestion:
For the home install----a complete vacuum line diagram of the new way to route and the sites to attach them would be extremely helpful. Like the wiring diagrams in detail.
questions:
1- (she is almost ready to crank) what is the hose that is attached to a 90degree fitting on the front part of the compressor , pointing toward the firewall for?
it has to be a breather tube for the compressor? What do I do with this hose?
2- do I need to attach a vacuum line to the by pass/regular ?
3- the vacuum line (male extension) off the bottom rearmost part of the manifold/cmpressor (cant really tell) it appears that a hose goes from there to the air intake before the TB?
Other than those few things---its been no problem.
I routed the a/w intercooler line (the LONG one to a 90 degree turn coming off the unit and down the side of the engine bay and then through and over the radiator and used another 90 degree fitting to attach to the cooler itself. So that part of the engine bay has been decluttered a little.
I know I know -----Pictures----soon as I have time guys---a lot is going on now along with the backyard install.
The wife has breast reconstruction surgery Monday and we have been picking out new ones. Thank God her cancer is gone.:jump:
olddragger

shinka213

11-04-2007, 01:41 AM

hey OD...
glad everything went well with your wife....

wanna see some pics of the car....

NOW!!

Phil's 8

11-04-2007, 01:02 AM

Moon Assad

11-04-2007, 02:20 AM

For the home install----a complete vacuum line diagram of the new way to route and the sites to attach them would be extremely helpful. Like the wiring diagrams in detail.
questions:
1- (she is almost ready to crank) what is the hose that is attached to a 90degree fitting on the front part of the compressor, pointing toward the firewall for?
it has to be a breather tube for the compressor? What do I do with this hose?

-Run it back and up as high as you can get it, then to the T fitting on the oil fill (2- 5/8th and 1- 3/8th if I rember correctly on the hose sizes). Put a T on the 3/8 vent line then run another line as high as you can back to the post maf vent and pre throttlebody, If the hoses are not high enough they will back feed oil into your intake and blower when adding oil to the engine so keep that in mind. Also pulling your dipstick helps oil drain down faster.

2- do I need to attach a vacuum line to the by pass/regular ?

-Yes, the easiest way to do that is run a strait vac line to one of the nipples that are plugged on your lower intake. It gets the fastest boost/vac. reading. Run the other nipple to your map nipple on the interceptor, use zip ties to keep hoses from popping off of the lower intake nipples. Everything else should see only vac. so use the check valve and run it from the nipple next to the air temp sensor to your vac tank.

3- the vacuum line (male extension) off the bottom rearmost part of the manifold/cmpressor (cant really tell) it appears that a hose goes from there to the air intake before the TB?

Ill get back to you on that, theres 2 different settups for the flash or Interceptor.

Other than those few things---its been no problem.
I routed the a/w intercooler line (the LONG one to a 90 degree turn coming off the unit and down the side of the engine bay and then through and over the radiator and used another 90 degree fitting to attach to the cooler itself. So that part of the engine bay has been decluttered a little.
I know I know -----Pictures----soon as I have time guys---a lot is going on now along with the backyard install.

-Im not sure if its in the directions but unhook your upper shutter valve vac hose and plug it, put a cap on the actuator to keep it from fluttering and causing turbulance.

olddragger

11-04-2007, 08:08 AM

BIG help Moon---thanks!
I am assuming that the upper shutter valve you are mentioning is the the VDI?

This sucker is cranking today inregardless of cancer, championship soccer game(18 yr old daughter could get a scholership!),work, time change, eating, bathroom breaks,dog petting, killer squirrels or gaint acrons falling out of my trees!

Thanks all for the support guys and gals ---:)
Moon call me if you like---my number is 478-471-6066.
OD

marsredr100

11-04-2007, 10:16 AM

Car fired up fine this morning and no P2119 code :Peace:

All I need is my nose back from the paint shop and I'm planing to visit Scott and Cam for more goodies:naughty:

I talked to OD this morning and gave some advice plus emailed him pictures of my setup. Hope it helped and sorry but I don't have any advice for getting rid of the killer squirrels :rollingla

marsredr100

11-04-2007, 10:23 AM

juan if you would have hit the gator you could have had a unique interior.

The gator was only big enough to do shift knob and the steering wheel.

I'll keep my eyes open for a bigger pond next time with a bigger gator in it. :rollingla

marsredr100

11-04-2007, 10:26 AM

well...it looks like im just gonna have to bit the bullet and ship her down early next year for the 8psi pulley :evil_laug , the flash and some meth...

YEAH!!!!!!!!

Let us know when you come down and maybe we (all Florida SC RX8's) can all get together for a group pix.

shinka213

11-04-2007, 11:15 AM

thats an awesome idea Juan!!

i'll keep ya posted

:)

marsredr100

11-04-2007, 12:12 PM

Thanks Charles, Swoope and Moon for all your help and suggestions. :wavey:

Juan

olddragger

11-04-2007, 09:45 PM

members of this family has been a BIG help to me and I really appreciate it. i was correct in anticipating good support from this family when I choose this purchase this kit. That being said I have "discovered" a couple of other deviations from the stock kit that I am doing. The logic is just too strong, not too.
Lets say this--- I am going to need bigger track tires.
oldsuperchargeddragger:yesnod:

munche187

11-05-2007, 07:53 PM

Here go the pics of the A/I kit Since OD hasn't posted pics of his install.

Engine Bay
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/MUNCHE187/RX8/100_2430.jpg
The pump fit perfectly behind the wind sheild washer tank which I am using as my Methanol/Water tank
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/MUNCHE187/RX8/100_2431.jpg
That is the injector.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/MUNCHE187/RX8/100_2432.jpg
This is the controller in the glove box. If you look closely there is a green LED on the top left of the glove box. It lights up when the system is spraying.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/MUNCHE187/RX8/100_2439.jpg
BONUS!!!The Bday gift my wife gave me.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/MUNCHE187/RX8/100_2429.jpg

marsredr100

11-05-2007, 08:42 PM

Methanol sounds pretty explosive to me. As a former US Army Bomb Disposal Technician, I got to get me one of this. :yesnod:

Nice :cool:

olddragger

11-05-2007, 08:52 PM

i got pics--they are too big and i cant post them---teenagers gone and I cant figue it out.
olddragger

munche187

11-05-2007, 08:58 PM

lol I was busting your chops since I know you had bigger fish to fry.

Phil's 8

11-05-2007, 09:21 PM

i got pics--they are too big and i cant post them---teenagers gone and I cant figue it out.
olddragger

Another computer challanged old fart. That now makes two of us.

shinka213

11-05-2007, 09:33 PM

speak for yourself Phil... :lol:

old fart does not always = computer challenged..

:rollingla

Phil's 8

11-05-2007, 09:44 PM

speak for yourself Phil... :lol:

old fart does not always = computer challenged..

:rollingla

Ah Ha, a closet old fart speeks - Na, your too young to qualify as a old fart and you know how to post pictures so you do not qualify.

olddragger

11-05-2007, 09:49 PM

i am a proud member of that club---but then again I know how to build a outhouse.
Juan just came to my rescue--i emailed them to him and he will post.
I know ---i have a red car.
olddragger

marsredr100

11-05-2007, 10:27 PM

Enjoy

shinka213

11-05-2007, 10:50 PM

Ah Ha, a closet old fart speeks - Na, your too young to qualify as a old fart and you know how to post pictures so you do not qualify.

thanks Phil!! I'll take that as a compliment....

my age is a well kept secret on this forum...
at least i think it is...

:rollingla

eviltwinkie

11-05-2007, 10:52 PM

thanks Phil!! I'll take that as a compliment....

my age is a well kept secret on this forum...
at least i think it is...

:rollingla

Pfft...age is of no importance...you have a blower...nuff said...you now count your age in psi officially...

shinka213

11-05-2007, 10:52 PM

i am a proud member of that club---but then again I know how to build a outhouse.
Juan just came to my rescue--i emailed them to him and he will post.
I know ---i have a red car.
olddragger

pics look awesome OD....
nice work....

:D:

shinka213

11-05-2007, 10:54 PM

Pfft...age is of no importance...you have a blower...nuff said...you now count your age in psi officially...

i guess i betta get that smaller pulley then....

:rofl:

Phil's 8

11-05-2007, 11:00 PM

OD, very nice self install. It shows some planning and attention to detail.

thanks Phil!! I'll take that as a compliment....

my age is a well kept secret on this forum...
at least i think it is...

:rollingla

Secrets are never kept, you should know that. :yesnod: It was meant as a compliment........:)

munche187

11-05-2007, 11:09 PM

OD thats some tight work nice very nice

shinka213

11-05-2007, 11:52 PM

OD, very nice self install. It shows some planning and attention to detail.

Secrets are never kept, you should know that. :yesnod: It was meant as a compliment........:)

oh dayum!!!
:)

Mazurfer

11-05-2007, 11:54 PM

Damn OD, some fine tight work! :rock:
I presume that a strut bar mod is in the works as well? Good Job!
You fire it up yet? I can't remember what you were still working out...some vacuum lines or some other lines(if I recall).

olddragger

11-06-2007, 08:01 AM

only thing left is putting the mazdaspeed strut on, installing the int x with the pettit intake temp sensor going to it---then fire that Mama up! Could not have done it without yall's help.
THANKS!
oldsuperchargeddragger

road1will

11-06-2007, 09:52 AM

mazsportmantis

11-06-2007, 10:04 AM

oldragger, a very nice install indeed. I like how you utilized the canister bracket. very snazzy.

morkusyambo

11-06-2007, 10:44 AM

Great work OD!

olddragger

11-06-2007, 11:32 AM

Thanks all.
Hey Will--stud is fine man---matter of fact i broke one off the coil mount!! I wish you could come back down. Looks better in person than pics.
That firewall mount is a really good piece of work--and relocating the oil filter makes gauge install a lot easier, not to mention oil changes. Plus you get about 1/2 more oil in her.
Notice that the firewall heater hose is missing--that the RB water temp adapter is upside down to mate up with the heater hose reroute. That mod made for a lot of needed room.
Notice also the intercooler front hose is at a 90degree bend and now doesnt run to the front and through the front sheet metal hole. That hole is being used for a engine bay cooler hose that will pick up at the grill. It will not hurt that the airfilter is right there either! I have the back of the stock hood elavated slightly to increase low speed engine bay airflow. See that hood mod on the DIY section. I will pic it.
Couple more things in mind is a custom made air deflector plate to replace the one immediatly above the intercoolers--that space needs to be sealed imho., and a stronger mount for the intercooler bottle.
Yall' like that intake with the maf and a vacuum line behind it? Took me a little while to figue that one out--may go to a smaller filter later.
Still havent shown the mod to increase airflow to the pcm box-- it gets so hot in there you cannot touch it.
OD

olddragger

11-06-2007, 11:34 AM

Oh yea Mazdasport---I have been speaking VERY highly of that mount to the local"club guys. I really like that. In the furture I see another tank going on it.
OD

SilverEIGHT

11-06-2007, 01:05 PM

OD, I like the relocation of the washer fluid bottle. The engine bay looks like you've done quite a bit of customizing. How many trips to the shed? :D Can't wait to see you on Road Atlanta so we can see first hand just what's going to happen between turn 7 and turn 9. Now, I suspect you will not have your foot in the floor all the way to the 150' mark at 10a :)

Phil's 8

11-08-2007, 08:15 AM

I see that Cam has jumped in early offering the flash with the s/c. It's a fine thing that we have to hear about it from a guy in New Zealand.

Moon Assad

11-08-2007, 07:16 PM

new dynos are up
http://pettitracing.com/rx8/index.htm

munche187

11-08-2007, 07:38 PM

Nice

Mzdarx8

11-08-2007, 08:00 PM

Very Nice! All the way to 9K! :)

Phil's 8

11-08-2007, 09:25 PM

new dynos are up
http://pettitracing.com/rx8/index.htm

That's nice for the MT guys, is your car running yet???.....you know what I'm after. I'd like to see dynos like that from your car.

Moon Assad

11-08-2007, 09:36 PM

Phil's 8

11-08-2007, 10:06 PM

Well we dont even have any 4 speeds local to test on. Im looking at 3 grand to get my car rolling and the frame strait. That dosnt even include bodywork and paint. If that guy didnt pull out infront of me things would be different at this time. I appoligise Phill but im in the same boat.
No need to apologize - it's not your fault. If I was not half way across the country I'd be there testing mine. Three grand plus....... ouch. I know lots of 4 speed owners - out here in the west.

shinka213

11-08-2007, 11:01 PM

olddragger

11-08-2007, 11:13 PM

well--I am cursed--just flat out cursed. I have been chasing gremlins for a while now.
leaking throttle body hoses, etc. Well today--it was ready to crank. Double checked the checkoff list etc, I turned her on to check the Int x, went around to the front of the car and "What the hell"---no lights at all showing from the unit---none. Black as night. ???????? So I go to turn her off and every warning light there is on the car was on, airbag, tire pressure, security light flashing,low coolant--you name it--it was on. Also the a/w pump would not run and just for the hell of it I tried the starter---nothing--not even a click. when I tried the starter all lights went off but immediatly returned as soon as I let go of the key. I tried a different key--same thing. WTF!!! I chased that problem for 3 hrs. The battery is good, all grounds on good, all connectors connected.
I took the Int x out and just hooked the oem one up just to see---same thing---no different. So the only thing I can think off is that the computer is not getting power. Why--I dont have a clue.
I'm screwed.
The only thing i can do with the limited equipment on hand is to take it apart again and try to trace this electrical problem.
Anyone ever have this happen to them? probably not.
Olddragger

olddragger

11-08-2007, 11:15 PM

oh---the horn works, the lights work, the stereo works, the power windows work, all dash stuff works.
OD

shinka213

11-08-2007, 11:26 PM

do you have power to the starter?

olddragger

11-08-2007, 11:30 PM

Nope--none at all--all fuses look good also.
OD

shinka213

11-08-2007, 11:32 PM

how about power to the coils and plugs?

Brettus

11-08-2007, 11:42 PM

new dynos are up
http://pettitracing.com/rx8/index.htm

wow - would love to see that 300+ dyno on the comparison thread - just taking a few points off it and it looks like it will be right up there with the high end turbos .

Mazurfer

11-09-2007, 12:03 AM

During the installation process did you ever need to get into the main fuse/relay box under the hood on the driver's side? Also check all the terminals on the battery positive side. One has a 60A(IIRC?) main fuse attached to it.

Before the main 120A it goes directly to the starter off the positive side of battery(Maybe through a 60A that Ray mentioned....not sure), and another place it goes is through a 15A to the igntion switch and eventually the starter interlock. But if you have lights, stereo etc, then this 15A should be good.
Yet another place is through a 30A to the ignition relay. Could it be this 30A or the starter relay itself?

I'm not familiar with this kit and I know that Ray is............but............is there ANY re-wiring at all in the fuse box for this kit Ray or OD? If there is, obviously that's where I would look first. There or you unplugged something during the install and must find it......but I know that you know all that.

Phil's 8

11-09-2007, 07:41 AM

Hey Phil...
if its any consulation...im dying for the flash...but it will cost me approx 2k to ship her down and back...plus parts and labor
but its prolly what im gonna have to do..

thats the price i pay for being first kid on the block...

but im ok with it...

:D:

Yea, I'm more than satisfied with the s/c but I must have a sensitive ECU cuz I can have it tuned today and as soon as the sun goes down the tune changes. The next day it's working again. Let the weather change radically and so does the tune. A flash is my saving grace. Right know I have 4 tunes for different weather conditions/times of day on the tuning dongle - daylight cool, daylight hot, evening cool, evening hot and as the weather and time of day changes so do I. I could use about three more tunes but there is no more room in the memory in the dongle. I guess I thought the X was supposed to over ride the ECU but in my case it does not seem to.
Oh, I make light of it cuz I knew that being first is always a problem. I also know that if I lived a decent driving distance from Cam, I most likely would already have it. But that does not stop me from feeling sorry for myself:crying: and trying to get a little sympathy:sad:

It sounds like "Murphy" moved from my garage to OD's. Sorry to hear you having problems but Ray should be able to help.

olddragger

11-09-2007, 08:29 AM

after laying awake most of the night, cursing my luck(and Phil I wish you had made Murphy more comfortable), going over and over in my head what this could be and picking my mind for any symptoms, co-relation etc-- I still dont have a cue.
battery is fine --that was my 1st thought also and I actually swapped out my battery from another car--no difference.
I remember that the 1st time I turned it on I heard what I think to be the a/w cooler pump working for a second then nothing. The fuse to the pump is good.
So far:
battery is good
60 amp fuse is good
room fuse is good
connections are good
dash functions work (radio, fan, lights, warning lights, fuel gauge, etc)
headlights, turn signals, horn, the remote, interior lights all work
now--
no power to the int x(no lights at all--none)
took the int x out and used just the oem one and no difference

Alert--Alert--- Juan just called and said the same thing happened to him! Seems i have to trace all the little fuses in the main fuse box down . He had one go bad (couldnt remember which one) and that was his problem. I will remember him at Christmas!
So after work--guess were I will be. Become one with the circuit tester.
One think is for damn sure--I am getting to know my way around the engine bay. Hope my teenagers are not hearing the words being mumbled.
Just to be clear here--this is NOT a problem with the kit, NOR the Int X, it is just a gremblin and we all have those from time to time.
oldcurseddragger

munche187

11-09-2007, 09:04 AM

Good luck OD

cybershark01

11-09-2007, 09:42 AM

man Roland ur car look hot if everything is ready on my car next friday we can go to the track

MazsportScott

11-09-2007, 09:45 AM

OD give me a call I helped Juan over the phone and can probably lend a hand to you as well. Phil you may want to give me a call, the Interceptor-X is running the engine not the factory ECU and there are some fields that need to be checked in your mapping. You should not have to change the mapping like you are doing.

munche187

11-09-2007, 09:46 AM

yeah I don't see why not.

Will your clutch be broken in by then?

How many miles have you put on?

munche187

11-09-2007, 09:48 AM

Carlos can you please update your avatar.

LMFAO!!!!

Phil's 8

11-09-2007, 10:08 AM

............................ Phil you may want to give me a call, the Interceptor-X is running the engine not the factory ECU and there are some fields that need to be checked in your mapping. You should not have to change the mapping like you are doing.

Let me talk to MM first. He and Cam are the only people that have touched my tunes since the s/c install. While they are present it runs good and will repeat but not if a different time of day/night. I want to make sure I will use the correct terms that you will understand. I tried to do it my self one time and I obviously do not have the confidence to try again ( I went too lean and panicked).

olddragger

11-09-2007, 11:49 AM

olddragger

11-09-2007, 12:14 PM

we are not short of "opportunity" are we brother :)
I feel your pain man--just read the latest. We both have hair pullers.
oldcurseddragger

Brettus

11-09-2007, 12:48 PM

OD - you know that this car switches to earth , right ?

Phil's 8

11-09-2007, 01:09 PM

I am running out of hair to sacrifice, both literally and figuratively!

Don't try and B/S any one into thinking you ever had hair.:)

Phil's 8

11-09-2007, 01:35 PM

I have photos to prove it, as embarrassing as they might be these days. Think along the lines of an 80s hair band as that's what I was doing at the time. The less hair I had the more successful I became!

Now I know why you aren't trying to convince any of us that you were once young.:lol2:

There were no cameras when I was young so I can't prove it. Dirt and I have been around about the same time.:)

morkusyambo

11-09-2007, 05:22 PM

For those of us "loyal" Pettit "pioneers", any chance we could get our own special "holiday" pricing for the flash and A/I kit??

Mazurfer

11-09-2007, 06:00 PM

OD - you know that this car switches to earth , right ?

That's an important point Brettus, but OD should know that....I hope!

Mazurfer

11-09-2007, 06:20 PM

Ok Scott will do. In looking at the wiring semantics (not the ones in the real shop manual, I am physically at work, but mind is elsewhere--hope no one dies----jk) I see things to check in the main fuse box. It will be a long time before quitting time. If it wasnt Friday i would be feeling a bug coming on.
I am beginning to wonder if I somehow plugged the a/w intercooler pump into the fuse box wrong somehow. I added a new circuit type shovel plug with fuse attachment on the blank hot wire to plug into the space as directed per instructions.
My question is also-- if a fuse blew--then why?
Great support by the way---thanks all.
Old cursed dragger

Look this over again with the instructions and make real sure or you may just pop any new fuse you find bad and replace. If I remember right, you said you heard the air pump start at first and then it quit after about a second? That sure sounds like a fuse, and we know you checked that 60A, so that ain't it. I started looking at the schematics last night when you first posted about this. I still contend you better go back and look at how/where you plugged that a/w intercooler pump in as you've stated. You might want to not only take out the Int-X but the intercooler pump wiring until you get it back firing up and then proceed from there again.
Just my two cents and I'm sure you've thought about it all. Good Luck!

olddragger

11-09-2007, 09:32 PM

SHE LIVES!!!!!!!:lol:

Help from a great bunch of folks---really. I wish my profession had that type of support.
Juan called me as stated, Scott at mazsport asked me to call him, i did and he pointed me in the right direction just as Juan had(Scott helped him also) Charlie from mazcare called and also helped--all the members on the board, Charles Hill helped with other questions and general support I needed. Could not have done this without the help of all.
My wife, God Bless her, had the patience of a saint during all of this. I really appreciate her being there and keeping me from hurting myself or shooting the car last night..:Eyecrazy:

It was a simple thing. A fuse in the engine bay fuse box. It's labeled "engine"
:uhh: I know God is laughing at me. Go ahead God--now I am laughing too.
I think as Scott thought also that the a/w pump drew too much current on the start up. i am going to run it now in a different way., i did not hook it up this time.

She started right up. Lights on INT x flashing right. I am getting a flashing cel ---i dont care. !!
I only ran it a few minutes will she was still on the jack stands.
On the road in the a.m.
WHEW---and it was worth it.
oldsuperchargeddragger

SilverEIGHT

11-09-2007, 09:51 PM

OSCD... that's good news. I can't waint to see ya.

shinka213

11-09-2007, 09:54 PM

Hey OD
youre gonna have a CEL...
so dont sweat it...
thats just the x...

have fun tomorrow...we want an update of course...

:D:

olddragger

11-09-2007, 10:00 PM

if all is ok driving tomorrow it's tuning tomorrow with Steve Kan! i still dont have her buttoned up tight yet.
OSCD

marsredr100

11-09-2007, 10:24 PM

Mazurfer

11-10-2007, 12:00 AM

if all is ok driving tomorrow it's tuning tomorrow with Steve Kan! i still dont have her buttoned up tight yet.
OSCD

All right !

Great news!

Congrats!

:smiley309

:us4allswi

:40oz:

We were all pulling for ya, and knew it was only a matter of time! I'm sure there will be some other small bugs, but you've done a hell of a lot and deserve mucho kudos!

Dave

swoope

11-10-2007, 12:19 AM

great to hear denny...

now if charles can find the fuse marked, injectors..

sorry, did i say that out loud???? :)

beers :beer:

munche187

11-10-2007, 03:51 AM

congrats OSCD!!!

I guess since it started you can officially be welcomed to the tribe

WELCOME!!!!!

Brettus

11-10-2007, 04:18 AM

now if charles can find the fuse marked, injectors..

sorry, did i say that out loud???? :)

beers :beer:

not funny - even though I LOL'd

shinka213

11-10-2007, 11:25 AM

congrats.... OSCD!!!

and its definitely official now....
i think your initiation into the club was noteworthy!!

:djcelebra

Phil's 8

11-10-2007, 11:32 AM

Congrats Denny, now your patients can breath a sigh of relief :)

mdw1000

11-10-2007, 01:12 PM

Congrats! Don't feel too bad - I remember similar simple bugs causing major headaches in the computer programming field. You'd be tearing your hair out and it would be something simple like that that you had overlooked or had no reason to think you should look at.

Good luck with the tuning session!

SilverEIGHT

11-10-2007, 02:05 PM

I'm headed over to Dynolab Inc. to see Denny today at his tuning session. Will post vids and pics ASAP.

EDIT:
Just talked with Denny. Seems he's still having issues so he's not coming up today.

Denny, good luck friend. One day you will look back on this and laugh. I'm sure right now it's starting to get a little frustrating.

olddragger

11-10-2007, 09:16 PM

"OD's adventures with FI"

I am having LOTS of fun. Learning a lot also. This is my 1st attempt at self indulence with high pressured air being forcefully rammed down the TB of my beloved rotary engine.
As my friend stated --I didnt make the tuning session. I just got the car on the road today. Once on the road ----errrrr---"things" come to view.
I was just going down the road, feeling pleasantly "heavy' as my back was being pressed into the seat and then "Bam". Engine quit. totally dead. Uhhhhh---Ok? God must have needed somemore laughs and i am sure he got a lot when he saw the expression on my face after the motor died. i am ablut 1 1/2 miles from home, no cell phone, no tools, no dogs no food and no beer. hell i didnt have nothing cept a dead 8 on the side of the road.
So I got out, cussed out the nearest pine tree, turned to the car with an expression of pure hate. I am sure i heard God laugh, but it turns out it was just John Boy and Billy on the radio.
I pop the hood, say a pleasant hello to that very familar engine bay and began an interesting dissection. and low and behold there it was. @ pop'ed vacuum hoses. Clamps gone, hard to reach. Engine hot, God is laughing and john Boy and Billy are playing a damn disco song---I hate disco. I really need a beer--hell i really need 2 beers!!
Ok hotshot Mr. S/c man--what now? The vacuum line was the co-joined Jet air, oil jet one. it blew apart. Made the car stop dead in its tracks and would not start. After thinking and thinking and briefly considering writing a sign that said "Will trade broken 8 for 2 cases of cold beer and one bag of kettle cooked potato chips, I had an Eureka moment! Remebering watching the old McGyver TV series i obtained 2 clean sticks fronm the roadside bushes and rammed them down the vacuum lines throats. Damn---it worked! I drove home never reving over 2 k. I did not want to blown the sticks out. With my luck i would have speared something with a badge and irittable mood.
I made it home--showed my family my ingenuity and stood by as they actually rolled on the ground laughing. 2 long sticks sticking out of the engine bay like that did look kind of stupid. Oh Well --i made it home.
Lesson learned---every connection--vacuum or coolant or airway or anything else==on a supercharged car needs STRONG clamps and connectors.
Currently having the dreaded"belt rattle". trying to adjust the belt a little (to oem tight--right?)--guess i need a better idle? Rattle goes away once you give a little gas.
Some 'popping" going on. dont know why i am getting that much surge.
My car wants to idle all the time at around 1.2-1.5 K (after it warms up). NO vaccum leak anywhere.
My vacuum lines are as follows
1- the male fitting on the rear bottom of the compressor--to intake --before the TB.
2- the chamber vacuum oem unit is attrached per instructions --with a one way valve and to the upper intake manifold.
3- the SC blow off valve is also attached to the upp intake manifold vacuum harness.
4- the line that is in the front of the SC i ran to the bottom of the car aka nascar downdraft type vacuum
5- the power brakes are attached to the dedicated vacuum on the intake part behind the TB
6- the jet air and the oil injector line are butted into each other(sticks are gone:)

Does that sound right to all/ Wonder why my idle is so high?
olddragger

shinka213

11-10-2007, 10:12 PM

hey OD...
i just love how you improvised....

i betcha wished ya had some hemostats laying around...

:lol:

PS..i have no clue about the vacuum lines...i leave that to the pros.. :)

Moon Assad

11-10-2007, 11:24 PM

I herd 2 sticks and was woundering why you were gona start a fire, ha ha.

dbright007

11-11-2007, 12:37 AM

The tree-huggers will really be coming after you now. Stuffing branches into the car to support a supercharger!
Glad you got it home and found the issue.

Mazurfer

11-11-2007, 07:57 AM

Adventures with OD..........Glad you got it home!

Can fix anythiing with a stick of gum and dental floss

McGyver FTW :lol:

morkusyambo

11-11-2007, 08:18 AM

morkusyambo

11-11-2007, 08:21 AM

Couldn't help myself on the last one.:)

shinka213

11-11-2007, 08:39 AM

here is a pic of mine....note how the hose is tucked underneath the TB intake....

i would run it underneath...twist your TB intake so the hole is at the bottom...
that will allow you to mount your MAF on top...

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1233/p5040003zn6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

this pic doesnt show my MAF installed...

heres one with the MAF installed...

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7500/p7070002ez2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

olddragger

11-11-2007, 09:01 AM

I love this group. Thanks for the help all. Rest assured it is just a matter of settling her in. Little things. I do keep a cell phone with me now at ALL times. Even in the backyard. with Joe's flat bed towing on speed dial.
in my tired old head--i still dont understand 'vacuum from a pressurized intake."
If I am running the int x I wonder why I need the maf? Intake temps are direct to the int x also NOT the maf.
Hope to fix the belt clatter today--anyone else ever had that? You know -its sounds like bad bearings knocking in the compressor. It is usually a rough idle associated noise that clears right up when you give it some gas.
oscd

SilverEIGHT

11-11-2007, 09:09 AM

morkusyambo

11-11-2007, 09:13 AM

You don't need the MAF w/ the interceptor. But i've been told if you hook it up your traction control will work again. If you're referring to the knocking noise when you first crank the car that is normal. Cam told me to switch the ignition to the on position without cranking, then pump the brake pedal 15-20 times. Switch ignition of, then crank. Not only does this calm the idle down(Also works when sitting at stop sign/light), but is seems to make the knock go away on a cold startup.

shinka213

11-11-2007, 09:19 AM

I put my MAF in because i prefer to have the traction control if i need it...

traction control will not work without installing the MAF....

and thats one more light i dont have to look at on the dash.. :lol:

i dont think its a situation of "you dont need the MAF if you have the x" but i might be wrong.. :D:

munche187

11-11-2007, 09:20 AM

morkusyambo

11-11-2007, 09:41 AM

Rub it in why don't ya? And by the way, when are you gonna post some vids of that 300whp monster??

olddragger

11-11-2007, 09:50 AM

all good stuff.
the knocking isnt just at start up--it is all the time while idling only(at 1.5K!)
anyone ever had that?
OD

morkusyambo

11-11-2007, 09:50 AM

munche187

11-11-2007, 09:50 AM

How many miles do some of you guys have on your car now after the Petit SC install? Are you an aggressive daily driver and did you change your driving habbits any after the install? By change, I mean things like shifting gears at different RPM than before, rev matching to shift down etc. Just wondering what effect the SC has on the daily drive.

With the Protek-R Premix 13,700

With the Protek-R, and S/C 13,500

With the Protek-R, S/C and Flash 2,000

With the Protek-R, S/C, Flash and Methanol 900

Total miles on the car 13,900

I purchased the car May 1, 2007 it's an 07 6spd, I am the first owner. It had 13miles when I drove up the lot. It had 599 miles when I dropped it off at the Pettit Shop. As you can tell it's my daily driver.

Driving habits after the install:
I wanted to drive every where.lolol
Still do I have to force my self to let it rest and use the wife's car.

If the car is not at the normal operating temp. I shift at 3k.
If the car is at normal operating temp 5k.
When ever I get the chance to step on it I do.
Usually at night on the highway or rural highway no one around. Lets just say that I know what the top speed is.
Rev matching, heel and toe I try my best.
I would consider my self and aggressive daily driver. You can ask Moon or Cam.lolol

The result of the S/C on the daily drive it makes it fun. I have the power I need on tap to move out of the way of some of these crazy drivers. Before the S/C I was having to give more gas to attain the power I needed. I would have to start giving gas way before any lane change, having always to time maneuvers. With the S/C none of that peace of mind knowing I had what I needed when I needed it.

It has given me more time to be on the cell phone and drinking my Beer.
LMFAO!!!!! I was j/k.

Bottom line it has made the daily drive 10x more enjoyable over stock.

munche187

11-11-2007, 09:54 AM

Rub it in why don't ya? And by the way, when are you gonna post some vids of that 300whp monster??

As soon as I can get some one to video tape it.

What would you like to see?

I didn't mean to rub it in.

YES I DID!!LOLOLOLOL

Seriously the car is so smooth it's not even funny. It pulls so evenly, well just look at the dyno sheets.

hehehe

I love living in driving distance to the shop 1hr 45min away.

munche187

11-11-2007, 10:29 AM

all good stuff.
the knocking isnt just at start up--it is all the time while idling only(at 1.5K!)
anyone ever had that?
OD

Yeah I did, Cam fixed with a bypass valve it was the one hose located on the upper left of the S/C.

As you can tell I am like Shinka and leave all the technical stuff to the pros.

jskup1

11-11-2007, 10:58 AM

take a close look at the purge solonoid.

morkusyambo

11-11-2007, 11:37 AM

As soon as I can get some one to video tape it.

What would you like to see?

I didn't mean to rub it in.

YES I DID!!LOLOLOLOL

Seriously the car is so smooth it's not even funny. It pulls so evenly, well just look at the dyno sheets.

hehehe

I love living in driving distance to the shop 1hr 45min away.

I would like to see the Snow performance setup and anything else you feel like doing.:)

Phil's 8

11-11-2007, 11:44 AM

morkusyambo

11-11-2007, 12:05 PM

I stand corrected.

morkusyambo

11-11-2007, 02:12 PM

I'm at work right now and can't see your pics. By the way, my right foot is my traction control

I'm home again and got to look at your pics. Although I would love to have my tc working, i'm currently waiting for Cam to get his CNCd intake adapters for the MAF/flash. That way I don't have to do any cutting.

morkusyambo

11-11-2007, 02:16 PM

So how bout that "holiday" special flash pricing??

olddragger

11-11-2007, 03:34 PM

Olddraggers adventure in FI

Juan called me again--great guy. Helped me some by telling me to do the pcm clear thingy with the riverdance brake pedal technique. Got that down, got all vacuum lines snugged tight with worm gear clamps. hot gun glue, saran wrap and super glue(jk yall) and I fired that mother up. Good start, running well with slightly fast warm up idle. No sc belt clatter heard. so I filed a flight plan with the family, made sure the cell phone was charged, gave them my eta back and took off:)
Warmed her up good, stopped and bought fresh gas, old cold pepsi, and headed to the car wash. Washed her good, started her back up and all is good.
OK, now she is bright and shiny with fresh gas, new oil and the twinscrew whine coming out from underneath the hood---life is good!
the road clears, dont see any law, no kids around, no houses around, no road kill in view, and no other cars. get the picture?
She is feeling good, so I slow down to about 30mph drop her in second gear and let her loose-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------h:hitit:
OH YEA BABY--THIS IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT!!
I go to 3nd (shifting at 8K) and holy friggin bat farts--it is even better than 2nd!
I shift quick to 4th at 8K
STOP, STOP, STOP !! 4th is as strong as 3nd!! I back off quick--getting too fast for this road. i hit the brakes with a big ole grin on my face, go home, hug my wife, kiss the dog and chase the kids around the house! (I think i got that right?)
My baby is back, bigger and better than ever before.
Speed is easy in this car now--very easy.:)

Brettus

11-11-2007, 03:57 PM

LOL - funny stuff OD .
You are making me sooooo jealous !

SilverEIGHT

11-11-2007, 04:04 PM

OD, those are some great words to hear. I know you will sleep good tonight.

Phil's 8

11-11-2007, 04:19 PM

Another Pettit owner feeling the rush

shinka213

11-11-2007, 05:32 PM

hey Ray

did you buy a pettit blower?

shinka213

11-11-2007, 05:53 PM

Nope, but if you read my "Rebuild" thread it seems as if Denny and I are having parallel experiences this weekend.

ah hah!!

more will be revealed!!
:D:

shinka213

11-11-2007, 05:55 PM

I'm home again and got to look at your pics. Although I would love to have my tc working, i'm currently waiting for Cam to get his CNCd intake adapters for the MAF/flash. That way I don't have to do any cutting.

Morkus
if you have a dremel at home, its a very easy procedure...even an ole lady could do it...
its about a 10 min process...

:D:

munche187

11-11-2007, 06:01 PM

I would like to see the Snow performance setup and anything else you feel like doing.:)

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=127674&page=15

post 360

The video will most likely be shot on Wed. On a closed course ;) ;) ;)

thackl

11-11-2007, 06:46 PM

marsredr100

11-11-2007, 07:09 PM

That was hilarious OD and welcome to the club. :lol2: You will also notice that you don’t need to downshift from 6th to 5th while cruising at 70-80 mph. All you have to do is stomp on it. I advice you to get used to the extra power before driving it like you stole it cuz you might end up in a pond like someone I know. :Eyecrazy:

marsredr100

11-11-2007, 07:28 PM

So should we start organizing a ported/55 shot versus SC'd/alky injected match race?:lol2: I'm up for it. OD'll tell ya that's just like the "good ole days!

Can I bring my Bridge Ported 13B R100 (all motor) to the race? :eyetwitch On a strait line of course. Now, that is old school :lol:

Moon Assad

11-11-2007, 07:48 PM

So should we start organizing a ported/55 shot versus SC'd/alky injected match race?:lol2: I'm up for it. OD'll tell ya that's just like the "good ole days!

Ok, when I fix my auto, hows at the dragon next year sound? Better bring a big tank, lol.

Phil's 8

11-11-2007, 07:52 PM

Wow, sounds like a great upgrade. I'm going FI this spring and was wondering if any of you SC guys have also been in a Turbo RX8? Can I get an honest comparison without starting WWIII. If not, then don't worry about it. I'm considering this kit, PTP and Esmeril. Whichever kit I get, it will be installed/tuned at PTP Austin. They'll tune anyone's stuff and admit there's more $$ in the install/tune than selling their kit.

Why don't you ask that question in the Major Horse Power forum. You have a group here that is biased.

You will of course get world war three started. Best to just read what has already been discussed.

thackl

11-11-2007, 08:25 PM

Why don't you ask that question in the Major Horse Power forum. You have a group here that is biased.

You will of course get world war three started. Best to just read what has already been discussed.Yep, I spend a lot of time there too. I do a lot more reading and searching than posting.... as my post-count shows :) I'd like to hear from someone who's been in a turbo'd RX8 after SC'ing and what the impression was.

shinka213

11-11-2007, 08:56 PM

i might be up for it...sans the alky injection....that might pose as a relapse issue for me..

:rofl:

olddragger

11-11-2007, 10:04 PM

old school---someone say old school? Yall mean a Hurst shifter tied to a munchie 220 4 speed? Dang thing felt like it weighted 5 lbs--wait a minute --it DID weight 5 lbs! Talking about the shifter knob.
Anyone up for a roots type sitting on top of a flat head ford motor sitting in a highboy? It wont turn and it wont stop but it will go like hell!
Now Charles car and the sc/ai car hmmmm --that would be a good run on the drag strip..
I WANT A PETTIT CAR SYMBOL TO PLACE IN THE GRILL/TRUNK
olddragger

shinka213

11-11-2007, 10:11 PM

olddragger

11-11-2007, 10:18 PM

Nope--but thanks for the offer!
We can just send cam the pcm and he can flash--right? he dosent need the car--right?
OD

munche187

11-11-2007, 10:36 PM

nope no need for the car

munche187

11-11-2007, 10:39 PM

munche187

11-11-2007, 10:41 PM

So should we start organizing a ported/55 shot versus SC'd/alky injected match race?:lol2: I'm up for it. OD'll tell ya that's just like the "good ole" days!

Sounds good but bring a turboed 8 also. I haven't ran one of those in a while.

morkusyambo

11-11-2007, 10:45 PM

Does the extra 30whp come from a different flash and the A/I, or is there only one flash??

shinka213

11-11-2007, 10:47 PM

Oh...when can we send the PCM?

<she waits with bated breath>

PS...anyone need an x (slightly used)

munche187

11-11-2007, 10:58 PM

Does the extra 30whp come from a different flash and the A/I, or is there only one flash??

There are a couple different flashes which depend on the year of the car.

They all will give the same result.

They all have been tested.

The flash with the A/I is the same.

munche187

11-11-2007, 11:01 PM

Oh...when can we send the PCM?

<she waits with bated breath>

PS...anyone need an x (slightly used)

Pat you know how Cam is a perectionist which is good.

I would give him a shout only he knows.

shinka213

11-11-2007, 11:16 PM

yeah...that i know....and being a woman, i seem to get extra protection from the folks at Pettit...i guess thats a good thing....:)

i will be waiting patiently...

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Moon Assad

11-12-2007, 10:41 AM

Moon, from what I understand about The Dragon, power isn't the key.

Power, driving ability, cohonas, and being calm like your on a sunday drive in the country. Ow, almost forgot, brake deep.

Bastage

11-12-2007, 11:15 AM

I was in TN over the weekend with some friends, and I actually drove the Dragon. There are a few straight-aways every now and then, and some of them are uphill. Power plays a part, but it's mostly about handling. Man... I wish I had my car there, but I had to settle for a huge Dodge Durango. Even still, it was crazy fun.

eviltwinkie

11-12-2007, 12:32 PM

Out of curiosity...has anyone posted a vid of this "dragon"?

I don't think it can possibly be as nearly uber sweet as a road out here in the hill country...Not even the venerable sti can out pwn teh RX on teh twisties on that one...

But I stand to be corrected...I wanna see...

Red Devil

11-12-2007, 03:05 PM

Don't think I missed this, but does the Pettit flash also turn on the radiator fans sooner?

jskup1

11-12-2007, 03:24 PM

Don't think I missed this, but does the Pettit flash also turn on the radiator fans sooner?

Yes, I don't remember at what temps though.

munche187

11-12-2007, 03:34 PM

Don't think I missed this, but does the Pettit flash also turn on the radiator fans sooner?

Yup 180 F

Red Devil

11-12-2007, 03:43 PM

Thanks guys.

olddragger

11-12-2007, 06:43 PM

Go to the site tail of the dragon and you can see all kings of stuff.
1st time on the interstate today and ---jesus--this car is MUCH faster. MUCH!
Gotta go --40 teenagers coming over!
olddragger

07rx8gt

11-12-2007, 07:29 PM

Just one question for this behind the times guy, Is the Interceptor X outdated now or should I keep it for the future Pettit fun???

shinka213

11-12-2007, 08:09 PM

Just one question for this behind the times guy, Is the Interceptor X outdated now or should I keep it for the future Pettit fun???

hmmmm....if youre gonna get a Pettit SC....
it would be a no-brainer for me.....
get the flash.....

:D:

Phil's 8

11-12-2007, 08:15 PM

Just one question for this behind the times guy, Is the Interceptor X outdated now or should I keep it for the future Pettit fun???

Do you track your car?? If you do, then keep it. You may be happy you did. Now you know that Pettit's flash is for s/c m/ts and as yet not for other forms of FI. It will be some time before Cobb will release his FI flash.

07rx8gt

11-12-2007, 08:39 PM

Phil's 8

11-12-2007, 09:12 PM

So the car is a auto and I dont track it mostly daily driver but I am about ready for the Pettit S/C. I just didnt want the extra expense of shipping my car and now that I will be moving to Alabama I will be much closer to drive down.

What are the benifits on keeping it

What are the benifits of just getting the flash
If you don't track it then don't get it. No need for it with a flash.

If the flash is as advertised, you will not know that your ecu is not stock. You have a little wait for an AT flash, it's close but not yet ready.

marsredr100

11-12-2007, 10:02 PM

Go to the site tail of the dragon and you can see all kings of stuff.
1st time on the interstate today and ---jesus--this car is MUCH faster. MUCH!
Gotta go --40 teenagers coming over!
olddragger

OD

After all the wait time :squint: , SC install :lol: , electrical headaches :banghead: , squirrel chasing :uzi: and wood chomping :Kill2: it is finally paying off :Peace: .

The beauty of it all is that every other VTEC belly button* driver looks at your RX8 and thinks, there goes another old man** driving an under power RX8.

Ha! :evil_laug Only if they know what’s sitting quietly under the hood…Rotary Power :eyetwitch

* everybody has one
** anyone over the age of 35

olddragger

11-12-2007, 10:05 PM

what I understand also is that if you ever have plans to go over approx 300hp then the injectors will have to be changed. if you change injectors then the oem pcm cannot compensate. So a stand a lone will be required.
The flash is great--really great thing to have--but if you already have the int x and your car is running ok--then dont rush?
the int x has features that are also good to have.. password protection, valet map capacity, monitoring and data logging capacity. plus if you do more mods then you can always tune further--cant with a flash.
Each has its advantages--the flash really simpifys things and its smooth, self diagnosis, self adjusting and allows full obd 2 access and management.
the int x is a stand a lone system that has more flexability, more up front data logging capacity and can grow with the car.
But, much over the 300hp with this system is pushing it. Blower capacity limitations start being a issue. So it depends on what you want. It is great to have options like this!
Before you decide --drive this car with a system installed that has ---say 275 at the wheels and 185 of torque. You may not want anymore than that:), I have just installed , have the int x and the base map(no tuning yet) and believe me--it is a totally differant car. The trips i now take are too short! Aamzing transformation.
olddragger

olddragger

11-12-2007, 10:17 PM

hey my life saver,vacuum line expert, experienced electrical globlin killer and pettit sc vet. they can tell I have something by this big ole grin on my face! and that little bit of popping coming from under hood.
Still working on the idle thing--hasnt gotten under 1 K yet---soon as I have time I will be checking the throttle position sensor to make sure she is correct.
Car is rich--but smooth at all speeds, no hesitations, no power drops, no hiccups(except a little boost pop sometimes) but I still have belt chatter after it warms up. It goes away at about 2.5 K.
i will probably drive down to mazsport sometime in the near future for tuning.--or flash her---I havent decided yet.
olddragger

Phil's 8

11-12-2007, 11:02 PM

I'm with you OD, I'll be keeping mine (after I get the flash) at least for the foreseeable future. I was just trying to tell him that it will not be needed for most ATs unless they are going to track their cars.

qtwre

11-12-2007, 11:22 PM

Why does tracking your car make the flash unsuitable?

munche187

11-13-2007, 01:04 AM

I put my Racing Beat Race Pipe back on 143miles since I added it back on.

My low end is better and no CEL.
No flames on decel.
Idle is steady at 1100rpm with the a/c on.

Phil's 8

11-13-2007, 07:22 AM

Why does tracking your car make the flash unsuitable?

It does not make it unsuitable. The X will give you some options that you may wish to pursue if racing.

olddragger

11-13-2007, 11:31 AM

exactly Phil. Thanks.
Spoke with Cam this a.m. My idle issue can be fixed with a restrictor in the blower idle/intake hose(one going to the maf/air filter airway thing) and the little chatter i have been hearing is probably the unit rubbing up agaisnt a clutch bracket. Every car is different in that regard--it depends on how the PPF etc is all set up and rests.
Good news---easy fix's.
One question--I know Pettit is working on a airway/maf tube to work with the flash, but what has people been using during the beta testing? How did yall mount yall's maf?
Sorry to keep mentioning this but Damn this is like the car I have always wanted.
On the interstate this am--i was at 65mph in 6th gear and i gave it approx 1/2 throttle(still in 6th!). I was at 80mph in about 2 seconds! I wanted to just keep driving and NOT go to work. But my wife's hand came out of my head and thumped me on the nose and told me to get my butt to the hospital. Sigh.
Glad I have her to keep me straight.
oldsuperchargeddragger

morkusyambo

11-13-2007, 03:36 PM

OD

After all the wait time :squint: , SC install :lol: , electrical headaches :banghead: , squirrel chasing :uzi: and wood chomping :Kill2: it is finally paying off :Peace: .

The beauty of it all is that every other VTEC belly button* driver looks at your RX8 and thinks, there goes another old man** driving an under power RX8.

Ha! :evil_laug Only if they know what’s sitting quietly under the hood…Rotary Power :eyetwitch

* everybody has one
** anyone over the age of 35

HA! I love the look on the fart can maestro's faces when you "walk" away from them.:Eyecrazy: Then the question that allways follows, "Is that stock?":uhh:

morkusyambo

11-13-2007, 03:42 PM

So the car is a auto and I dont track it mostly daily driver but I am about ready for the Pettit S/C. I just didnt want the extra expense of shipping my car and now that I will be moving to Alabama I will be much closer to drive down.

What are the benifits on keeping it

What are the benifits of just getting the flash

What part of Alabama are you moving to?? I live in Enterprise, but occasionally make trips to Birmingham. If you need an Interceptor i'm selling mine to pay for the flash.

shinka213

11-13-2007, 07:05 PM

eviltwinkie

11-13-2007, 07:16 PM

HA! I love the look on the fart can maestro's faces when you "walk" away from them.:Eyecrazy: Then the question that allways follows, "Is that stock?":uhh:

Heh...I get that with my N/A...I could only imagine w/ boost...

Phil's 8

11-13-2007, 09:02 PM

I think Denny like the s/c.

Mazurfer

11-13-2007, 09:14 PM

I think Denny like the s/c.

Ya think? You guys are pushing me over the edge! Argh! :banghead:

marsredr100

11-13-2007, 10:45 PM

Ya think? You guys are pushing me over the edge! Argh! :banghead:

Lets see...let me write down a line or two to make you go over the edge.

Nah, Just Do It :jump:

Bastage

11-14-2007, 09:24 AM

Ya think? You guys are pushing me over the edge! Argh! :banghead:

If you do it, I'll follow you down, AND buy you a burger and some beers, AND drive you back (but you have to promise not to get any feces on the leather). :lol:

olddragger

11-14-2007, 02:00 PM

you will never regret it and with the flash--it makes it oh so much easier.
The only think i regret is the amount of gas I am using:)
Driving this car is FUN---FUN.
get this-- I actually pulled my friends Lotus yesterday---and I still need a tune! Badly. I have some exhaust pop and a rattle sound in the supercharger at idle. All of that indicates NEEDS TUNING.
So to flash or to tune---damn decisions. It will be hard to give up the INT X and its flexability.
Did I say this car is FUN to drive?
The idle/vacuum hose re stricter thingy worked--now car is searching.
The a/w cooler works---lay your hand on top after driving and it is just barely warm.
Really fun to drive or did I already say that?
In a short while I do believe we are going to see some more members in Ga.
By the way --how much difference does a person notice in performance after a good tune over the base map?
Nice job Shinka--that looks smooth. Much better than this aftermarket thing i have.
i understand cutting the space for the maf--how did you tap for the screws?
olddragger

munche187

11-14-2007, 03:28 PM

The MPG got better with the meth kit I get and additional 40miles per tank on average. If I baby it I can get way more. Normal driving which for me means quick sprints when possible I got the average of 40 miles per tank more. If I drive hard all the time I use the same amount of gas maybe a little less than before. I went from 150 per tank to 190 per tank.

In regards to the tuning you will see a big difference when you tune from the base map. I went through 3 different maps while on the short time I was using the Int-X. The first tune you feel significant difference. On the other two I felt a difference but not as large.

When I went from the Int-X to the Flash it was a significant change again. I still have my Int-x but it is just there as a backup.

morkusyambo

11-14-2007, 05:37 PM

I'm using the MAP Scott @Mazsport sent me. It's tuned slightly rich and I still get 200miles a tank. If the meth helps that much, then I should see 240 a tank with it.

olddragger

11-14-2007, 06:16 PM

I dont know if i can take much more.
So the flash actually makes the car stronger than a good tune? Did you use the stock maf and maf airpipe?
OD

eviltwinkie

11-14-2007, 09:43 PM

I dont know if i can take much more.
So the flash actually makes the car stronger than a good tune? Did you use the stock maf and maf airpipe?
OD

I dont think that the flash is superior to a good tune...a tune job is always best at extracting the most that your specific setup and car can offer...

It's just easy and 90% as close to a good tune...from what I gather based on all the reviews...

morkusyambo

11-14-2007, 11:51 PM

What if I want to keep the interceptor, but use the A/I?? For those that know, is this feasable??

morkusyambo

11-14-2007, 11:57 PM

Sounds good. If using the interceptor would you want to use a MAP, or MAF based injection system? Some companies recommend using MAF based for positive displacement.

morkusyambo

11-15-2007, 12:12 AM

Which one would be easiest to install/upkeep/tune, and best for reliability/temperature/power????

morkusyambo

11-15-2007, 12:32 AM

Ray, unless you posted over there in the last few minutes, I haven't read anything yet about progressive rate and fixed volume on this forum....But i'm heading to your "alky" thread right meow.

olddragger

11-16-2007, 11:19 AM

after only approx 150 miles of driving with this system installed--i have lost 5 years of old age(im younger), my hair is less gray, i am teenager cool, hot chicks look at me, no longer need those teeth whiter strips, i get out of bed earier without as much effort, my wife won a trip to Hawaii, my daughter had a colledge soccer scholorship offer possibility, Ga bet Fla in football, Ga beat Auburn in football, I got a raise at work, Opra has come to town(really --who cares?) and I have already used $50 worth of gas. Life is good.. Tomorrow I am to meet a few Ga club members for karting at Andretitis(sic) and they want to see the car. Now to just get a tune.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:0
olddragger

Phil's 8

11-16-2007, 11:27 AM

olddragger

11-16-2007, 11:57 AM

the anti aging is a continuing process that will accelerate after the tune(pun intended).
One thing i have already figued out. I need bigger track tires.:) The car will be a totally differnt animal on the track. Enough grunt and scoot in her now that suspension changes will be needed and i am beginning to wonder about the oem motor mounts. Wish there were some poly's out there. i dont want the solids.
I may need a torque arm to the engine. if yall watch track vids you can see a good bit of gearshift movement when full throttle is applied in the middle of a turn. With the power increase I am sure that the drivetrain movement will be affected. That will be under evaluation before next season.
i can already tell running temps are going to be higher. Have to wait till summer to really tell what I have.
What do yall do about freeze protection for the a/w bottle? Do you add a little antifreeze in the winter? Then drain it in the summer?
OD

morkusyambo

11-16-2007, 01:12 PM

i've been running regular 50/50 coolant for 2kmiles, no problems.

Phil's 8

11-16-2007, 01:29 PM

Overheating is a big problem in the desert and may show up under track conditions. I'm testing CRHs radiator that should take care of that. 50/50 did not work too well for me but you guys live in a different climate.

Suspension changes are a must even if you do not track it, just playing is a little too much for stock. I went the RB way.

Be sure and get a brace/bracket for the booster - did mine with the MS strut tower brace with the booster bracket. I've been advised to seek a torque arm for mine but then I do not track it. So far (cross my fingers) the new motor mounts from Mazda seem to be holding up.

It never stops!!!:)

olddragger

11-16-2007, 06:52 PM

oh i already have a good bit of track goodies
1- koni;s with tein H springs
2- rb bars with endlinks
3- mazdaspeed front strut with master cylinder brace
4- light flywheel
5- af shortshifter
6- dedicated track wheels and tires
7- carbo tech xp 8's for the track only
etc etc,
but with this much power increase, the suspension tweaks will have to be started.
close eye on motor mounts.
I will be glad when i get it tuned--the high idle is aggravating and if i put a smaller vacuum fitting in the idle hose thing --the car search's a lot. I still have that little sc rattle---all should be fixed with a good tune. I really cant make my mind up about a flash or the tune.
OD

Phil's 8

11-16-2007, 07:03 PM

I think if I were you I'd look into the flash as a daily driver tune. If it operates as Munchie has said it would give you a smooth stock type drive. You already have the X and could do what every adjustment you might need for the track. Sure does not take long to transfer from one to the other.

marsredr100

11-16-2007, 07:49 PM

You guys are killing me with all the rambling about driving your SCs and loosing age by the day. All I have been able to do since my little encounter with a couple of Florida gators by the pond (five weeks ago) :squint: is to drive my RX8 from the driveway to inside the garage and back out again. :tear: I read your daily forum entries and wonder WTF?, why do I feel getting older by the day, why in the hell I won a one-way trip vacation to Iraq, why did my daughter’s hamster bit my finger, why I can’t read what its written on Phil’s avatar girl shirt. :eek:

The weather in Central Florida turned picture perfect since my mishap. The temperatures have drop below 80, humidity is low and nothing but blue skies. Now, I’m able to ride my Hayabusa to work without worrying about getting wet but I have noticed that the Harley dudes are now waving back at me and not giving me the F/U look. Now that’s weird. :scratchhe

All I can do now is reminisce about driving my 8 and wondering how much longer do I have to wait until I get to break down my new set of tires. The sound of the SC spooling, the boost gauge blinking 5, 6, 7, 8 PSI, the smell and sound of no catalytic converter. :eyetwitch

When will it end? :banghead: