show me a Pettit SC making 350-360 wheel without needing water/meth or some other form of charge temp control....


Paul,
water/meth is required depending on your ambient temperature, amount of boost and the fuel quality you use. For eg. I ordered my Snow meth kit and TB spacer from BHR 6 months ago when I was planning to go turbo.
water/meth is used by lots of turbo guys including MM. it is not mandatory for Pettit. Its just a cheap insurance as nobody wants to push their motor unsafely.

For me, its a must for any FI option as the climate here is very hot and I do not have access to Octane over 91 in my country.

Also, I haven't seen any daily driven turbo'd 350-360 WHP RX-8 (without water/meth) running on the same engine for even a year.

show me a Pettit SC making 350-360 wheel without needing water/meth or some other form of charge temp control....


Paul,
water/meth is required depending on your ambient temperature, amount of boost and the fuel quality you use. For eg. I ordered my Snow meth kit and TB spacer from BHR 6 months ago when I was planning to go turbo.
water/meth is used by lots of turbo guys including MM. it is not mandatory for Pettit. Its just a cheap insurance as nobody wants to push their motor unsafely.

For me, its a must for any FI option as the climate here is very hot and I do not have access to Octane over 91 in my country.

Also, I haven't seen any daily driven turbo'd 350-360 WHP RX-8 (without water/meth) running on the same engine for even a year.

im aware of the basic in's and out's of water/meth injection, including how it pertains to climate and fuel. i never said i wanted a 350whp car that didnt run water, i said i didnt want one that HAD to to keep charge temps under control.

Ok guys, I need some advise on the spark plug wire length for yukon coils which will sit right under the air filter. Thanks.

Im in Honduras. I dont have the luxury of a phone line as you know it. For me to call a non military number takes an act of congress.

My wife was stationed at that same base in Honduras from Jan-Jul of last year and I got a call from her every night. She was allotted like 30 minutes per day during the week and an hour or two on weekends for "morale" calls.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o68/jskup1/arguing.jpg

i cut my wires to about 24 inches --that leaves a little extra for positioning. I also put 45 degree boots on the coil end as 90 was too much imho.
dont worry about the length affecting spark! These things pop!
OD

My wife was stationed at that same base in Honduras from Jan-Jul of last year and I got a call from her every night. She was allotted like 30 minutes per day during the week and an hour or two on weekends for "morale" calls.

thats more or less still correct. i was very vague and techincally incorrect in that response because no one here cares about the specifics of the current poilicy on DSN and/or morale calls from Honduras.

The post as a whole is incorrect as i can make regular calls from here. The post as it applies to the current situation is not incorrect. As it stands currently: i can call anywhere local to my loosing base in HI without having to cut any red tape. I can also call anywhere local to any other military installation in the US, but it requires me to cover my ass with a ridiculously painstaking paper trail of permissions. Calling long distance via DSN connections from anywhere requires a papertrail afaik.

AFAIK from my mil experience, this is not the norm. It may be something that applies only to this base, or maybe its parts of a 'tightening of the reigns' so to speak due to historical abuse of privilages here... i dunno. If anyone here really give a crap, feel free to PM me and i'll see if i can send you copies of AFI's and local policy letters to your hearts content. otherwise the reason i only said a truth as it applies to the situation, is because thats all that matters.

I hope you were only insinuating that perhaps i didnt understand my privelages here and the policies governing them.....


i cut my wires to about 24 inches --that leaves a little extra for positioning. I also put 45 degree boots on the coil end as 90 was too much imho.
dont worry about the length affecting spark! These things pop!
OD

sorry OD... i havent changed my stance since we talked last night on my being here, I'm out pending any thing substantial and relative i get from Pettit. Just didnt like how much that looked like calling me a liar

show me a Pettit SC making 350-360 wheel without needing water/meth or some other form of charge temp control....

to be even MORE accurate, show me one that was or could do that 1-1.5 years ago when i made the decision that I wanted those power levels

not touchy, and I wasn't wrong... I'm pretty sure than when it comes to expressing a personal opinion/preference I don't understand how you're going to tell me I'm wrong?

I would guess the 330 RWHP by Juan was with methanol on, but we do not tune for methanol.

Walking closer to the "edge" in our tune could get us another 15 to 30 RWHP, but then we would get in trouble on the street the fateful day we buy 87 octane from the 93 octane pump. (This happens, and is why you want meth)
This low octane gas in the wrong underground tank "accident", may also be the cause of some "turbo" failures where they have tuned to the very peak HP and are not running methanol.

simple question for a second: has anyone SC'd a 2009 yet, and are the "new" rennys compatible w/ this kit?

no one has that posts here. they are "compatible" in that it should bolt up the same. but tuning will be different

I would assume so, you'd have to get rid of the 4pt strut bar but that doesnt seem like a big deal...
I dont think Cam or Dian have written a flash for an 09 so it might take a little while for that...

Got it. Thanks for the quick replys, guys.

Ok, question, what disperses heat better, aluminum or steel. Keeping that in mind, what's the difference between a 13b and rennisis. Not sure how common sense can be a marketing ploy, you can always lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink, you feel me???? Ok, let me explain a little bit about the exhaust ports on a renny, there 1 steel, who woulda thought, 2, they have no cooling in the area that keeps the apex seals from falling into the ports, its directly in a high heat zone of the exhaust and that's exactly were seeing causes of failure. I even spotted that when I saw the first renni apart as a for seeable problem. If that bridge area gets to hot it cant cool down fast enough so the heat causes it to swell and warp. Now, if something happens like clogging your cat, your gona have even more heat issues. Also this still apply's if you have anything in the exhaust system restricting exhaust flow like a turbo that doesn't flow as much as it should for this application. If your considering putting a turbo on your 8, remember to go with a BIG turbo. Not one that's flow restrictive at all. You can learn by listening or by feeling. Ok, argue all you want, time to go back to project street ray.

Ok, question, what disperses heat better, aluminum or steel. Keeping that in mind, what's the difference between a 13b and rennisis. Not sure how common sense can be a marketing ploy, you can always lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink, you feel me???? Ok, let me explain a little bit about the exhaust ports on a renny, there 1 steel, who woulda thought, 2, they have no cooling in the area that keeps the apex seals from falling into the ports, its directly in a high heat zone of the exhaust and that's exactly were seeing causes of failure. I even spotted that when I saw the first renni apart as a for seeable problem. If that bridge area gets to hot it cant cool down fast enough so the heat causes it to swell and warp. Now, if something happens like clogging your cat, your gona have even more heat issues. Also this still apply's if you have anything in the exhaust system restricting exhaust flow like a turbo that doesn't flow as much as it should for this application. If your considering putting a turbo on your 8, remember to go with a BIG turbo. Not one that's flow restrictive at all. You can learn by listening or by feeling. Ok, argue all you want, time to go back to project street ray.

thanks Moon, thats actually exactly what i was looking for.

Happy New years to everyone, dueces!

Moon get back to work :banghead: you showed up to the battlefield a day too late...:) ha before you tell me to get back to sketching just remember I can have my sketch book in front of my computer:lol: :lol: :lol: seeya

It shouldn't be a "battlefield". It should be a place everyone can come to discuss ideas, theories, get solid info,etc...

sorry, its not really a battlefield the expression is "you showed up to the battlefield a day too late" whatever,,,

thanks Moon, thats actually exactly what i was looking for.

Happy New years to everyone, dueces!

Yeh the ? is whats big enough though. Like with the Diasios, it was a combonation of keeping the engine temps under a certain temp and a turbo that wasnt making any boost under 5 k to keep the motor alive. Also put it this way, the turbos that are getting mounted between the motor and fire wall arnt even close to being being big enough. And dont even try turning up the boost past a certain point because it also has ill effects. Theres rules, the ? is what is the best combo to keep your motor alive withought having to sacrifice drivability. Reving my motor past 5 K all day isnt one id be willing to deal with in a daily driver on the street, but thats just me.

Yeh the ? is whats big enough though. Like with the Diasios, it was a combonation of keeping the engine temps under a certain temp and a turbo that wasnt making any boost under 5 k to keep the motor alive. . .
/\ can see this being true of a race car . A street car is another thing entirely

good info Moon--nice summation.
how about waffling the exhaust and lead plug jackets?
OD

sorry, its not really a battlefield the expression is "you showed up to the battlefield a day too late" whatever,,,

No worries. :)

/\ can see this being true of a race car . A street car is another thing entirely

Yeh, on a street car its encapsled in an egg carton, no place for air to go and it gets even hotter with more temp variations, what is it on a street car 180 to 230. See, I never got my car above 210. Keep it cool or go back to school. The more temp varation you have the more parts in your engine flex, warp, swell, crack. Trust me, it only makes sense. Its like if you over heat a aluminum piston engine. most of the time it tends to warp things. You can get away with it if its steal but in this case, not enough. This is just basic knowledge, atleast for me. Well, an answer to the statment you made, there both relitive. Either race or street. If it lasts on the track, it also does so on the street.

Ok, question, what disperses heat better, aluminum or steel. Keeping that in mind, what's the difference between a 13b and rennisis. Not sure how common sense can be a marketing ploy, you can always lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink, you feel me???? Ok, let me explain a little bit about the exhaust ports on a renny, there 1 steel, who woulda thought, 2, they have no cooling in the area that keeps the apex seals from falling into the ports, its directly in a high heat zone of the exhaust and that's exactly were seeing causes of failure. I even spotted that when I saw the first renni apart as a for seeable problem. If that bridge area gets to hot it cant cool down fast enough so the heat causes it to swell and warp. Now, if something happens like clogging your cat, your gona have even more heat issues. Also this still apply's if you have anything in the exhaust system restricting exhaust flow like a turbo that doesn't flow as much as it should for this application. If your considering putting a turbo on your 8, remember to go with a BIG turbo. Not one that's flow restrictive at all. You can learn by listening or by feeling. Ok, argue all you want, time to go back to project street ray.

May I have permission to publish the above on Wikipedia? Just kidding.

Good info Moon. :eyetwitch

I would guess the 330 RWHP by Juan was with methanol on, but we do not tune for methanol.

Correct and Cam will not tune my car for meth nor will tune my car to run on the edge.

Just part of his philosophy (I guess). I’m not just another customer but a (by name basis) Pettit customer. Same applies to few other vendors. :eyetwitch

Correct and Cam will not tune my car for meth nor will tune my car to run on the edge.

Just part of his philosophy (I guess). I’m not just another customer but a (by name basis) Pettit customer. Same applies to few other vendors. :eyetwitch

^
yeah, what he said

right---push the edge in the lab dyno--not on a street driven car.
OD

. If it lasts on the track, it also does so on the street.

But the reverse is not necessarily true . Stuff can last on the street quite well but not so well at the track ......

ysll talking about my depends undies again!
OD

But the reverse is not necessarily true . Stuff can last on the street quite well but not so well at the track ......

Not gona argue the point. Put it this way, I can bet ANYONE that they couldnt build a turbo kit that would last ME 50 k for an RX8. Enough about turbo kits, this is a SC thread. If you want to talk turbos either go to the turbo thread or IM me about it, enough said.

/\ ahem - you brought it up ...

but fair call .

dumb question---would ethanol in the gas (10%) change your tuning requirements?
OD

dumb question---would ethanol in the gas (10%) change your tuning requirements?
OD

From Innovate Motorsports:

"Tuning Tip: Ethanol Content

We've had a few reports where users could not “nail down” their tune on the street with the LM-1. The AFR's would jump about 0.5 AFR across the WOT band even in the same weather conditions in the space of a few days. Instead of holding a tune, the engine seemed to slowly “yodel.”

Naturally the first thing to blame was the LM-1. But it turned out that the users filled up at different gas stations, sometimes filling up on gas that had 10% ethanol mixed in. As expected, when Schnapps is mixed with cars, things get a little complicated.

If ethanol (stoich AFR of 9) is mixed with gasoline (stoich AFR of 14.7) the resulting gas has a lower stoich AFR than 'pure' gasoline. As the fuel injection is tuned to mix a certain amount of fuel for a given amount of air, the resulting mixture would be leaner when using a fuel with lower stoich AFR.

This can be calculated:

sAFR = (%ofAdditive * sAFRadditive + (90-%ofAdditive) * sAFRgas) /100

where:
sAFR is resulting stoich AFR
%ofAdditive is amount in % of mass of additive (ethanol) mixed in
sAFRadditive is stoich AFR of additive (9 for ethanol)
sAFRgas is stoich AFR of base gasoline (14.7)

For a 10% mixture of ethanol to gasoline by mass the resulting stoich AFR is 14.13

So, for an engine that's tuned to certain AFR at a certain load and RPM on straight gas, the resulting (gasoline equivalent) AFR when running the mixture can be calculated as:

new AFR = tuned gas AFR * (gasoline stoich ratio) / blend stoich ratio

An engine tuned to 12.5 gas AFR will run at the equivalent of 13 gas AFR with a 10% ethanol blend. This is what these people were seeing.

Of course, when running in closed loop, the engine will run at 14.13 AFR instead of 14.7. O2 sensors (incl. widebands) don’t measure AFR, but Lambda. Lambda is defined as actual AFR/stoich AFR. It's a ratio. In closed loop part throttle the engine is just running at Lambda 1.0, regardless of fuel. The same would be true for other Lambda values when running closed loop at WOT using a wideband. The engine would run at the tuned Lambda and everything would be fine. Open loop systems would need to be retuned for alcohol blends though."

:eyetwitch

Yeah - What Mars said. It will require a little more fuel, and closed loop fuelling will compensate. The long term trims built by this the closed loop feedback will also help in open loop to some extent.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Great info thanks . what if you are getting 0 trims? Something going on?
Moon is helping me but I thought I may as well post in case some others could run into this.
noticed my a/f's on a steady state light load 25-28% cruise at around 3.4-- 3.8 k speed in the 70's, engine temps 170's(:). ---you know interstate driving had started going in the low 15's ! 15.1 etc (no w/m on),
I am getting 0 trims per efi dude.
Now give it a very slight load and all is well like up a small hill, very slight increase on the throttle, etc, wot stuff all is well, increase rpms to approx 4k and all is well--lower rpms and it stays the same.
idle is all over the place --from 13.9 to 15.5 flashes but by large, mostly in the 14's
curious as when i replaced my fuel pump with a KNOWN good pump/filter and sock and on cranking for about 10 sec the a/f's were STEADY at 14. 2--no bouncing around at all. then it started the bouncing. it could be so many things.
I am noticing by far more of those small signs on the gas pumps (MAY contain a max of 10% ethanol) and I am thinking that may be causing some of this.
All thoughts appreciated
OD

weird --but fixed--just turned my w/m up just a little!
Watch out for that ethanol guys.
OD

I'm heading down to Pettit tomorrow and later to Moroso. The weather is going to be perfect (74~54 hi-lo). I'm hoping for at least 5 pases. :eyetwitch

I'm heading down to Pettit tomorrow and later to Moroso. :eyetwitch

I think you meant Palm Beach International Raceway (new name for Moroso). Good Luck.

have fun in your perfect weather, tomorrows forcast for here is high of 34, although it is good for the 8's lungs...

have fun in your perfect weather, tomorrows forcast for here is high of 34, although it is good for the 8's lungs...

Arnt you comming down here in the next few weeks?? Dig out your shorts!!!

I have a feeling I should "search", but I need some quick advice. I haven't started my car in about two weeks (07 auto/pettit sc). Is there a procedure to follow if its been sitting a while? I imagine the rotors are rusting away, with all the oil having dripped into the pan!. Should i start it as usual? or is there a way to get some oil to the e-shaft and seals? Thanks!!

yup got my tickets two days ago... I'll be down there wednesday the 28th-1st

I have a feeling I should "search", but I need some quick advice. I haven't started my car in about two weeks (07 auto/pettit sc). Is there a procedure to follow if its been sitting a while? I imagine the rotors are rusting away, with all the oil having dripped into the pan!. Should i start it as usual? or is there a way to get some oil to the e-shaft and seals? Thanks!!

You shouldnt have any problems, just let it warm up.

yup got my tickets two days ago... I'll be down there wednesday the 28th-1st

How many days did you say you were gona be in florida??? Can you make a 2 hour each way trip down here??

There is a little thing that id like to say about premixing. In the years that I worked on 2 strokes I learned that the oil in the gas wont seperate from the gas till it gets warm first. In the time it takes to do so it can wash what oil out and cause it to run a little dry on oil at first. Since in a 2 stroke the fuel runs through the crank case first it takes a fully warmed up motor to get the fully lube potential from the premix. The same would apply to premix in a rotory but it has less time to seperate and not wash the oil off of the housing. Its somthing to keep in mind.

damn you Juan, Its freezing cold and foggy here. I keep getting wheelspin in 3rd gear unless I'm real careful on the throttle!

Juan got a 13.5

Launch problems or he is heavy?
He should be low 13's---probably launch.
OD

Launch problems or he is heavy?
He should be low 13's---probably launch.
OD

Drag radials would help a stage 2 Pettit car break into the 13s.
(A little bird told me)

Drag radials would help a stage 2 Pettit car break into the 13s.
(A little bird told me)

He had a 2.1 60' when he got that 13.5 (he was launching at under 3500 rpms). He seriously drove like a grandma, and still managed to smoke us. Drag radials would have helped his car break into the 12s.

I ran a 13.8, with a 1.9 60', but I launched at 5700 rpms. I'm going back in the next month or two, and hopefully I'll run in the 12s (I have bag sitting in my trunk that contains an extra 50 whp).

Pictures and videos to come soon.

I'd need to find my timeslip, but I'm sure I 2.0'ed my 60' back in 2004. All stock 'cept for me Hymee catback.

Cheers,
Hymee.

13.5 - good effort . Congratulations Juan

Juan got a 13.5

Congrats on the 13.5 run. what was the trap speed?

Thanks to everyone. See ticket for additional information (left is me and right is bastage) Notice the difference using slicks per 60' mark. Launch at 3500 rpm to prevent wheel hop and an easy 12s if I had a pair of slicks. Maybe next time. Next Saturday autocross and going to work in 3.5 hours from now to do a 15 hours shift. Got to get some sleep. Will post videos later. :eyetwitch

Here are the videos although the 13:58 was not filmed. Sorry for the quality of videos taken by my 14 yo son with a digital camera. The first two videos clearly shows the advantage of having slicks (bastage’s RX8) and the third video was my last pass of the night against a upgraded 2nd gen RX7. (torque vs whp). Overall a very nice day that started with a 3.5 hours drive from home to Pettit Racing, then to Moroso, a total of 10 passes and another 3.5 hours drive back home. Not a single problem throughout the whole day. To sum it all; 330 reliable whp and 13:58 ¼ mile on street tires. Life is good. :eyetwitch :eyetwitch :eyetwitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWFiMsSoekM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQcxPdBkHzk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9wJjilMOqg
(you can here people betting on the background)

Nice. Just for comparo, what are some other cars that get @13.5??

Nice. Just for comparo, what are some other cars that get @13.5??

according to: http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html

these are the 0-60 and 1/4 times for stock vehicles with a 1/4 of 13.5

1987 Buick Regal GNX 4.7 13.5
1998 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 5.1 13.5
1968 Dodge Charger, Auto, 4.8, 13.5 (C&D Nov '67)
2006 Dodge Charger SRT-8 5.0. 13.5 (MT Dec.'05)
1998 Ferrari 456M 5.2 13.5
1982 Ferrari 512 Berlinetta Boxer 5.1 13.5
2001 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.8 13.5
2005 Ford Mustang GT 4.6L V8 5.1 13.5
2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 6.1L Hemi, 4.8 13.5 (MT Feb '06)
2007 Lexus IS 350 4.9 13.5
1995 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.4 13.5
2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII 5.1 13.5
1969 Plymouth Road Runner 426 Hemi 5.1 13.5
1993 Pontiac Firebird Firehawk 4.9 13.5
1996 Porsche 911 Targa 5.0 13.5
2006 Subaru Impreza 22B STi 4.7 13.5
1995 Toyota Supra Turbo 5.1 13.5

Congradulations on the 13's! Bastage, whats in the bag in the trunk? N2O? A new Pettit pulley kit? Angel dust and magic powder? A mysterious green substance?
I finally got to drive last nite for the first time in weeks, and got a wierd noise at around 6000 rpm in third (07 6spd at). It felt like it hit fuel cut, lost power and the engine light came on. After a few seconds, power returned to normal and the CEL went out. I pulled off the freeway to check under the hood, and found oil coming out the KN filter. RX8club to the rescue again! I need a catch can!
I searched and found good picture of catch cans, but I can't figure out where the hoses hook up. Can you guys steer me to some links w/pictures of catch can hookup on an SC'd 8?
Hey OD, are you running a catch can, or just venting the crankcase?

Thanx

Congradulations on the 13's! Bastage, whats in the bag in the trunk? N2O? A new Pettit pulley kit? Angel dust and magic powder? A mysterious green substance?
I finally got to drive last nite for the first time in weeks, and got a wierd noise at around 6000 rpm in third (07 6spd at). It felt like it hit fuel cut, lost power and the engine light came on. After a few seconds, power returned to normal and the CEL went out. I pulled off the freeway to check under the hood, and found oil coming out the KN filter. RX8club to the rescue again! I need a catch can!
I searched and found good picture of catch cans, but I can't figure out where the hoses hook up. Can you guys steer me to some links w/pictures of catch can hookup on an SC'd 8?
Hey OD, are you running a catch can, or just venting the crankcase?

Thanx

Check your cat!!!!!

advantage of having slicks (bastage’s RX8)


You guys should've traded the rear wheels for a run!
After seeing how Bastage pulled away initially, I'm convinced you could get atleast high 12's with his shoes.

Congradulations on the 13's! Bastage, whats in the bag in the trunk? N2O? A new Pettit pulley kit? Angel dust and magic powder? A mysterious green substance?
I finally got to drive last nite for the first time in weeks, and got a wierd noise at around 6000 rpm in third (07 6spd at). It felt like it hit fuel cut, lost power and the engine light came on. After a few seconds, power returned to normal and the CEL went out. I pulled off the freeway to check under the hood, and found oil coming out the KN filter. RX8club to the rescue again! I need a catch can!
I searched and found good picture of catch cans, but I can't figure out where the hoses hook up. Can you guys steer me to some links w/pictures of catch can hookup on an SC'd 8?
Hey OD, are you running a catch can, or just venting the crankcase?

Thanx

The catch can runs from the oil filler neck to the intake.

Look for the hose that comes out in front of the oil filler neck; and trace it back to the nipple on the intake... the catch can intecepts this line; so it goes oil filler neck nipple -> catch can -> intake nipple.

That is all there is too it.

Congradulations on the 13's! Bastage, whats in the bag in the trunk? N2O? A new Pettit pulley kit? Angel dust and magic powder? A mysterious green substance?
Thanx


A lower pulley and two secondary injectors maybe?

:lol2:

"A mysterious green substance?"
Uh, don't open the trunk......
(Repo-man)

Thanks Kane. Moon, I got a p0420 "cat failure" CEL at around 1500 miles, after running pretty hard for a few minutes. I had auto zone clear it , and it has not come back. I'm around 2600 miles now. I wondered if this might be because Protek had blown thru the exhaust and temporarily contaminated the cat. Did you guys jack up the OMP delivery when you did the tune? Could this cause a p0420? I'm guessing you also set the tune on the rich side, and if so would this throw a CEL? Could the cat really be dead at 2600 miles? How do I check it?

Thanks Kane. Moon, I got a p0420 "cat failure" CEL at around 1500 miles, after running pretty hard for a few minutes. I had auto zone clear it , and it has not come back. I'm around 2600 miles now. I wondered if this might be because Protek had blown thru the exhaust and temporarily contaminated the cat. Did you guys jack up the OMP delivery when you did the tune? Could this cause a p0420? I'm guessing you also set the tune on the rich side, and if so would this throw a CEL? Could the cat really be dead at 2600 miles? How do I check it?

Get a hold of Cam 561-844-2258 He is problably at the shop right now. :eyetwitch

Bastage, whats in the bag in the trunk? N2O? A new Pettit pulley kit? Angel dust and magic powder? A mysterious green substance?


Just by taking a quick glance at bastage it will pretty much narrow it down to “angel dust”. However, he told me that he already reached the last step on the twelve step program a while back. By look at the grin on his face (while stashing the bag in his car trunk) I will predict a healthy dose of whp for the next dyno run. :eyetwitch

Thanks Kane. Moon, I got a p0420 "cat failure" CEL at around 1500 miles, after running pretty hard for a few minutes. I had auto zone clear it , and it has not come back. I'm around 2600 miles now. I wondered if this might be because Protek had blown thru the exhaust and temporarily contaminated the cat. Did you guys jack up the OMP delivery when you did the tune? Could this cause a p0420? I'm guessing you also set the tune on the rich side, and if so would this throw a CEL? Could the cat really be dead at 2600 miles? How do I check it?

You need to take it off to check. You car originaly had the interceptor, when we got it back to the shop it wasnt running, the plugs were fouled out. I dont know how it was treated before it got to the shop. It was said that it was only moved from spot to spot but I hardly belive that. Im sure that during the tunning for for odvios reasons it was driven hard and atleast 2 dynos. Extra oil isnt going to clog your cat but id say heat would destroy it and has on more then 1 ocasion. PS, the cat acts as a flow restriction and if it clogs it runs the risk of frying your ports out if you keep running it.

advantage of having slicks (bastage’s RX8)


You guys should've traded the rear wheels for a run!
After seeing how Bastage pulled away initially, I'm convinced you could get atleast high 12's with his shoes.

I offered!

I have little doubt he would have made it to the 12's or at least have been really close. Guess we'll just have to wait for my car to do it next month :rock:

Here are some pictures:
Mine:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/DSC_0025.jpg
Ken's:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/DSC_0029-1.jpg
all 3
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/DSC_0030-1.jpg

who's is the white 8???
You guys deffinately need a larger photo shoot with Cams car your three, Moons if its on the road? and whom ever else has the SC...

Congrats on the 13.5 run. what was the trap speed?

105 MPH means she is making good power :)

Cheers,
Hymee.

who's is the white 8???
You guys deffinately need a larger photo shoot with Cams car your three, Moons if its on the road? and whom ever else has the SC...

That would be me! Had a great time and nice to meet Juan & Bastage. My best ET was 13.9 @ 100mph. :uhh:

Cool,,, is it a 4port or 6port???

I have little doubt he would have made it to the 12's or at least have been really close. Guess we'll just have to wait for my car to do it next month :rock:
It'll be cool to see what you run next month.

Btw, are your Enkei RP-F1's 17" or 18"?

Nice. Just for comparo, what are some other cars that get @13.5??

Dug up some numbers from Car & Driver July 2006 PTP Turbo test drive:

The silver prototype PTP brought for us to test was just howling with power — 390 horsepower at 7400 rpm and 290 pound-feet of torque at 5100 rpm, according to our calculations with PTP's chassis dyno data.

Dancing a fine line between keeping boost up and wheelspin down, we blasted to 60 mph in 4.9 seconds and through the quarter-mile in 13.5 at 109 mph.

Therefore we can conclude, Juan's 8 is keeping up very well with the biggest turbos around and their extra torque isn't making much difference.
And yes, the test car was running water injection.

I’m currently looking for a pair of OEM wheels 17 or 18-inch (they don’t have to be in great condition since is only going to be use for the track) to mount a pair of street slicks. Please pm if you know of someone with a set of OEM wheels in central Florida.

Also, any recommendations on street slicks (brand, size) will also be appreciated. Keep in mind that they have to be 17 or 18-inch diameter and be able to fit the rear wheel well since I have coilovers and my car sits a bit low. (I’m not planning to change my car’s current coilover settings). That is why I did not run bastage’s slicks last Friday. They were a little too wide for my setting and I did not wanted to deal with rubbing issues.

I’m sure after installing bastage new little bag of tricks and a good set of slick we both are going to hit the 12 second ¼ mile mark. :eyetwitch

Not sure what you mean by street slicks, but the Dunlop star specs have been getting great reviews by guys who track their cars, and it is marketed as a street tire.

Moon, or anyone else who may have some insight on this, is Pettit ever going to pair a new 6 rib idler and blower pulley to the new e-shaft pulley?

The fitment is a bitch for those of us who work on our cars at home. In fact, it would be much nicer if Pettit made a smaller diameter blower pulley instead.

Here's a vid I took from Friday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fGQyndH1iw

Way to cool !!
and the cars are great !!

can't wait to have my pettit kit...2 month to go :)

It'll be cool to see what you run next month.

Btw, are your Enkei RP-F1's 17" or 18"?

The RP-F1s are 18X9.5 wrapped in 265\35-18 BFG TA KDW2s.

The drag radials are Mickey Thompson 275\40 17 on some 17" Enkei (not sure which model). I borrowed them from a friend, but I will probably buy them off of him as he has no need for them. His car is making more power than these tires can handle (I think he's pushing 550hp and 600 ftlbs of torque on his Mercury Marauder).

Moon, or anyone else who may have some insight on this, is Pettit ever going to pair a new 6 rib idler and blower pulley to the new e-shaft pulley?

The fitment is a bitch for those of us who work on our cars at home. In fact, it would be much nicer if Pettit made a smaller diameter blower pulley instead.

I mentioned it to Cam and he brought up the point of the 5" pully being 6 rib would make you have to grind down the rack. Its not that hard to swap that pully out, just mark the one you take off and match the marks to the new one that you put back on.

Let me tell you a story about those new pullys. There acualy old ones for the smaller blower, that tells you how close to production we were with them. I was hounding Cam to try them out with the kit but it took me until recently to do so as you see. They were produced way before the stage 2 pullys but we wanted to hold out on the release, maybe not even release them but it turned out for the better.

juan knows what to do if he wants to get his time down more--it could easily be a high 12 sec car. Just dropping to a 17 inch wheel and a short tire and skinny's up front would be good for 0.2-0.3 sec--hell he probably had his battery still up front and the back seats still in.
I bet that was a fun night.
OD

Moon on the fuel insures--i have been going around and around, I have now a larger micron sock (ours doesnt suck!) will have at some point external aeromotive cannister filter(i have it all with the fittings --just havent had the time) and I am thinking real hard whether or not to put 14 volts to the pump on its high speed mode--leave the low alone.
thoughts?
OD

Officially passed 17,000 miles on the blower today (several of those miles were on an autocross course, or a drag strip :rock:) Life is good:

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/IMG00156.jpg

Coming soon to an engine bay near me:

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/DSC_0069.jpg

/\ yellow injectors - thought you would be putting blues in there ?

They're not your average yellow injectors. They're special :)

special ? ................spill the beans !!!!!

I am betting 700+ cc's of special.

I am betting 700+ cc's of special.

only 570 ccs of special

Hopefully enough to get me into the 12s in the 1/4 mile

Does the pulley in that pic have the same # of grooves as our stock pullies?? I guess the one I got was a tester, because it has one more groove than stock.

How much is Pettit charging for those injectors??

did you guys ever try launching in second gear? seems like with all that extra power you might as well give it a try....but only if you have a stronger clutch.....

Here's a vid I took from Friday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fGQyndH1iw

Thanks Bastage for posting that one! I think i had the r/t time on Juan but then he took over! :Eyecrazy:

Cool,,, is it a 4port or 6port???

6 Port!

Thanks Bastage for posting that one! I think i had the r/t time on Juan but then he took over! :Eyecrazy:

Here are the times/mph:

You.........

R/T .610
60' 2.136
330 5.937
1/8 9.065
MPH 78.03
1000 11.761
1/4 14.021
MPH 99.95

Me.........

R/T .424
60' 2.292
330 5.965
1/8 8.948
MPH 82.51
1000 11.533
1/4 13.686
MPH 105.14

Your best R/T (of the tickets that I have) was .171
:eyetwitch

did you guys ever try launching in second gear? seems like with all that extra power you might as well give it a try....but only if you have a stronger clutch.....

I have a Racing Beat Aluminum Flywheel and Exedy Stage 1 clutch.

I'll give it a try next time.

BTW Trap rpm was 8,000 in 4th gear and 12.0 A/F ratio.
:eyetwitch

Does the pulley in that pic have the same # of grooves as our stock pullies?? I guess the one I got was a tester, because it has one more groove than stock.

My take:
Originally the blower was going to have the extra rib for the belt, but there was not slippage.
Cam simply turns the extra rib off now.


:) :) :) :) :) :)

I see. Thanks Rote.

I'll give it a try next time.


got a feeling that is a sure way to strip your 2nd gear - could be wrong . Team was talking about it a while ago .

Anybody put any thought into a different final drive?? Say 4.1 or 3.9?

use wheels and tires for gearing --easiest thing to do. 8k in 4th is almost there.
if you really want to drag her--then either get an 09 trans placed in your car or get a 2nd gen 5 speed. The 5 speed will alliviate 1 shift:)
OD

getting the 4.1 from a auto wreck seems like a cost effective solution ...

I'll get an 09 trans if/when I break this one :)

I'll get an 09 trans if/when I break this one :)
Does anyone know how much greater torque capacity the '09 trans has over the '04-'08 trans? If I decide to build a street Mod RX-8, I was thinking of going with that trans along with a 4.11 rear end.

got a feeling that is a sure way to strip your 2nd gear - could be wrong . Team was talking about it a while ago .

Thanks for the info. :eyetwitch

use wheels and tires for gearing --easiest thing to do. OD

Agree :eyetwitch

I'll get an 09 trans if/when I break this one :)

Same here :eyetwitch

I heard 09 R3 models they started using the MX5 transmission? Or am I totally wrong?

How do you guys know the 09 tranny will mount properly, or work with our ECU?

Does the SC void the warranty on the cat? How long are your cats lasting w/SC? Ive spent hours reading on gutting the cat, race pipes, hi flo cats and simply replacing the cat. Holy crap, Batman! Each choice has a ton of pros/cons! My brain hurts!. My local Mazda dealer has gone under, so i"ll have to drive to B'ham,AL. for warranty work, but I,m afraid of what they'll say when they see the SC.

just throw a fd tranny in.....na rx8's run like 14.0-14.1 with them installed
proof: http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=161255

Does the SC void the warranty on the cat? How long are your cats lasting w/SC? Ive spent hours reading on gutting the cat, race pipes, hi flo cats and simply replacing the cat. Holy crap, Batman! Each choice has a ton of pros/cons! My brain hurts!. My local Mazda dealer has gone under, so i"ll have to drive to B'ham,AL. for warranty work, but I,m afraid of what they'll say when they see the SC.

Take it off and check it out for yourself. If it's bad, give them a call and explain the situation to see if they'll repair it under warranty.

How do you guys know the 09 tranny will mount properly, or work with our ECU?

I don't think the ECU cares about it, but I'm not sure about the mounting. We're just assuming it's doable until someone actually does it.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=153887

this enough confirmation that it will fit! ;)

though some rumors of bad 4 / 5 th have been around..

beers :beer:

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=153887

this enough confirmation that it will fit! ;)

though some rumors of bad 4 / 5 th have been around..

beers :beer:

Sweet. Thanks for the link, Swoope!

it will fit but one of the good things about the 09 is that the ppf is on the right side.
for dragging I would not really bother with an 09--go with the 5 speed. Road racing go with the 09---know why?
OD

it will fit but one of the good things about the 09 is that the ppf is on the right side.
for dragging I would not really bother with an 09--go with the 5 speed. Road racing go with the 09---know why?
OD

Yes, I see the advantages that each have, but since I'm not building a drag car here (just a car that I occasionally drag race), and this is my daily driver, I'd prefer the 6 speed :)

My friend and I are building a sequential gear box for his Exige and after that the 8,,, ohh and AP Tuning just happens to be up the road, yup the only place in the country where you can get hardened gears,:evil_laug :evil_laug :evil_laug our design is very simular to Ikeya's ....
His exige will be ready around June-July then he's going to a paddle driven do-cut, and then mine after that ,,,
Once we're finished we might even mass produce.....

From working with the spindles on the Gt car I learned a little bit about hardining. In that aplication we rested the part in sand and hit it with oxy till it was bright red then barried it in sand to let it cool. Would the same method work in the case of hardining the tranny gears?????

just throw a fd tranny in.....na rx8's run like 14.0-14.1 with them installed
proof: http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=161255
That's very true. In my specific case, if I build a Street Mod car the SCCA rules state I need to use the same number of gears as the original trans. So it must be a 6spd.
I don't think the ECU cares about it, but I'm not sure about the mounting. We're just assuming it's doable until someone actually does it.
Agreed. The bellhousing will be the same and as it's manual trans there'll be no TCU to deal with.
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=153887

this enough confirmation that it will fit! ;)
Sweet...swoope's the man. Thanks! :)

I dont know, we're having APTuning harden them ,,, we're still designing the Exiges, we have the cam ratios all worked out(Exige gearbox is cable driven)

is the gears the problem or is it the forks, syncros and bearings?
OD

I think RX-7 gearbox will improve quarter mile times and give us a little more low end torqe. but not sure if its a drop in replacement.

some of the people who do the 20B swaps use the 7s tranny...

7'tranny is a much better set up--will need new starter etc for the swap though.
OD

is the gears the problem or is it the forks, syncros and bearings?
OD

on out tranny you bend the forks, then that kills the syncros..

lately is seems like 3 to 4th is the issue..

beers :beer:

I threw out the idea to Cam today about a 2 speed blower drive pully and we started digging around in some parts and figured out how to do it. What would you guys think of working out the details on getting it to market, it wouldnt be over night but if I get enough intrest it might be in the next year.

I threw out the idea to Cam today about a 2 speed blower drive pully and we started digging around in some parts and figured out how to do it. What would you guys think of working out the details on getting it to market, it wouldnt be over night but if I get enough intrest it might be in the next year.

Give us some more details and we may be interested.

Well, the idea is to push 10 or so psi under 4 or so k then have it down shift when the boost raises past a certain point. Maybe with a pressure switch.

Kinda keep the blower in its sweet spot.

on the new pulley /injectors---new tune is needed correct?
OD

You need a data log to see if your within the perameters.

Moon, Have you guys installed a kit on any 2009's--or have any customers that have wanted one for a 2009?

I ask b/c I am contemplating trading my 2005 up for a 2009 (or possibly a 135i):dunno: , and was wondering if many significant changes need to be made to the kit or the tunes to work with the "new" Renny. Would it be nothing more than a new flash? If so, any ideas on when that might happen?

Not yet but we see no problems doing so. Just gotta get a new strut tower brace.

on out tranny you bend the forks, then that kills the syncros..

lately is seems like 3 to 4th is the issue..

beers :beer:

yeah. I was having problems with the 3 to 4 shift and thought my tranny was screwed. I installed a reinforced clutch pedal and that took away 95% of the problem. I still think my synchros are a little worn, but I no longer worry about the tranny.

one little thing about the tranny---make sure the ppf hasnt moved a little.
moon i will call tomorrow --hopefully and talk to Cam? Getting interested.
OD

Cool, I wont be there though. The plan is to get the rack mounted and get the bump steer taken care of on my other project tommorow.

I threw out the idea to Cam today about a 2 speed blower drive pully and we started digging around in some parts and figured out how to do it. What would you guys think of working out the details on getting it to market, it wouldnt be over night but if I get enough intrest it might be in the next year.
Sounds interesting

bump steer huh--building a mustang:) jk
OD

http://www.rotaryaviation.com/custom_mazda_engines.html
look at this stuff
OD

just ordered my W/M system http://www.coolingmist.com/detailmain.aspx?pid=varicooltrunkMAF :rock:

Im a proud owner of a soon to be supercharged 09.

Im a proud owner of a soon to be supercharged 09.


Wow, congrats!!!

pics or it didnt happen!!!
jk Moon congrats...
Tell me where that oil filter is will ya...

Oil filter is on the front timing cover. Nice.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Im a proud owner of a soon to be supercharged 09.

Sweet.

Yeh, its nice to have a 6 port 6 speed. Can you blive it only tacs 1500 at 70, DAM.

09 is a much better car---you can even change the fuel filter on one.
cant wait for the build.
OD

well Moon now is the time to build your kit with the GT500 Eaton....

Not sure if im going all out on this one, swap the brembos then maybe swap out the nav if it fits. Of course the blower and call it quits.

1 fab project at a time.

well you can at least use it as a test mule for the clutched pulley

Most deffinatly. But im thinking a 2 speed electronic control, kind like a noss button except its either or.

Have the button light up crazy fast then swap to rediculas fast.

Im a proud owner of a soon to be supercharged 09.

Sweet! Time to chage your avatar picture. :eyetwitch

Sweet! Time to chage your avatar picture. :eyetwitch

Yeh, well let me take one in the morning.

Not sure if im going all out on this one, swap the brembos then maybe swap out the nav if it fits. Of course the blower and call it quits.

Riiiiiiiiggghhhhhhhttttttt!!!!! sure that is all you are going to do.. :lol:

beers :beer:

Ok, you got me on that Swoop. Im sure theres more to come, gotta catch up with the rest of the guys first, rember the last time I had an 8 to drive it was pre flash gen. and a 4 port. The 1 thing that ive got going is I have alot more room for blower RPM before redline. As for the bigger blower, I think I have a special app for that, can you say 20 cough cough in the yellow 8midinger.

Yeh, its nice to have a 6 port 6 speed. Can you blive it only tacs 1500 at 70, DAM.

What is the gas mileage like on the highway??

Today I ran my first AutoX since my whp upgrade and new set of TOYO Proxes R1R tires. The course was very tight, lots of 90 degree turns and narrow. I did not kill any cones but I did sideswiped a few (see pictures of side skirt marks). The car ran flawlessly but I need to get used to my new tires. I’m amazed with the extra power and the better handling. There were two 350Z (one of them a Nismo). I think you’ll find them on eBay later tonight. :lol:

Here are the videos. Noticed that I had a little problem shifting into second gear on the second video but I guess sh*t happens. :eyetwitch

Bottom Line

Reliable, dependable and fun drive either on the road, autocross or at the drag strip.

Life is extremely good. :wiggle: :wiggle: :wiggle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ-d2q9FNxg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8QGUkW5rHk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp_dUu0MvV4

you Southerners have all the fun,,,
It was a high of 22F today...

What is the gas mileage like on the highway??

Dont know yet, only 150 miles on it sofar.

Thats awsome Jaun, I like when you hit that strait, your moving pretty dam fast. Give me a few months to dail my car in and ill meet up with you guys.

Today I ran my first AutoX since my whp upgrade and new set of TOYO Proxes R1R tires. The course was very tight, lots of 90 degree turns and narrow. I did not kill any cones but I did sideswiped a few (see pictures of side skirt marks). The car ran flawlessly but I need to get used to my new tires. I’m amazed with the extra power and the better handling. There were two 350Z (one of them a Nismo). I think you’ll find them on eBay later tonight. :lol:

Here are the videos. Noticed that I had a little problem shifting into second gear on the second video but I guess sh*t happens. :eyetwitch

Bottom Line

Reliable, dependable and fun drive either on the road, autocross or at the drag strip.

Life is extremely good. :wiggle: :wiggle: :wiggle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ-d2q9FNxg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8QGUkW5rHk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp_dUu0MvV4

Wow, tight course. Looks like you had much better traction this time.

350Z... meh

We both outran a couple 350Zs (one of them had like 400+ whp) at the last autocross, and you had 30-40 less ponies and bargain bin crappy tires back then. ;)

Nice vids.

you Southerners have all the fun,,,
It was a high of 22F today...

Have you applyed for your Florida snowbird permit, if not your pretty screwed on comming down cause I hear the line is very long, LOL.

guys --i HAVE to get yall on track with us. Have yall been on track with the 8 yet?
look at this vid http://vimeo.com/2231224.
i am the vr one in front. i am holding back a lot on this vid--having fuel starvation issues big time and wanted to stay in camera range--all the left handed turns=starvation. end on that front straight i am at around 135 in 6th gear. na guys coming out on the straight in 4th--i am in 5th (18 inch tires too).
the track is Roebling Rd--Savannah GA we are there again may 2/3 yall ought to com.
its only $250 for the entire w/e
OD

ohh yeah BTW I'll be down thereDaytona Rolex24, plan on renting a car to go down to Pettit) this thursday or friday not next week,,,
would like it if a couple of you would show up for a mini meet especially Juan with the new pulley would live to feel the difference...
Would greatly appreciate guys.....

ohh yeah BTW I'll be down thereDaytona Rolex24, plan on renting a car to go down to Pettit) this thursday or friday not next week,,,
would like it if a couple of you would show up for a mini meet especially Juan with the new pulley would live to feel the difference...
Would greatly appreciate guys.....

Sounds like fun, but the timing kind of sucks for me. PM.

I really hope this car dosnt have a speed cut off. I was crusin at 90 in 6th at 3k. So if its dosnt have a cuttoff thats 180 at 6k with enough power and im not making any claims yet but that adds another 30MPH to that before redline. OMG The gearing is rite but I think you need atleast 500 hp to get to 200MPH from what ive herd.

I really hope this car dosnt have a speed cut off. I was crusin at 90 in 6th at 3k. So if its dosnt have a cuttoff thats 180 at 6k with enough power and im not making any claims yet but that adds another 30MPH to that before redline. OMG The gearing is rite but I think you need atleast 500 hp to get to 200MPH from what ive herd.

this is silly funny.

you will confirm that a mph cutoff exists on the autos. at my guess is 125?

:)


beers :beer:

this is silly funny.

you will confirm that a mph cutoff exists on the autos. at my guess is 125?

:)


beers :beer:

yeh, i had it on the 4 speed but I also had DSC on that. Im pretty sure that theres maybe anti lock brakes but as for traction control it dosnt have that, i just cut lose in my local parking lot that I run my Kart at. I was aculy 4 wheel drifting dicking around and you cant do that with any traction control on. Im gona wait till after break in (keeping it under 5 k for the next 300 miles then 6 till 1000 after that) to see if its governed, if it is BILL, can you flash that out for me, lol.. Im not trying to put much load on the drive train either, I was G drifting to feel out the car and getting a good rear slide out of the corners, I cant wait to feel 300 WHP.

I can flash out the speed cut :) Just ask Brettus or Dave in NZ.

Cheers,
Hymee.

I can flash out the speed cut :) Just ask Brettus or Dave in NZ.

Cheers,
Hymee.

ah,,

conformation..and good job! brettus ftw.. :)

silly..

beers :beer:

I can flash out the speed cut :) Just ask Brettus or Dave in NZ.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Hymee, I'm still waiting on that........

Yeah - I just need to send you a new PCS file with it defined. <end of thread-jack, but Cam would approve of this ;))

Yeah - I just need to send you a new PCS file with it defined. <end of thread-jack, but Cam would approve of this ;))

Or, you could send me new ptc & pcs files with all the parameters (including the speed limit) required for a supercharged renny :eyetwitch

the supercharged 6 speed hits 150mph with ease without even getting to 8000 rpm! (on test track)

Prior to supercharging, if I remember, my car used to 'slow down' in acceleration at around 135, and then crawl slowly faster 1mph at a time.

I can flash out the speed cut :) Just ask Brettus or Dave in NZ.

Cheers,
Hymee.

And thanks heaps for all the help you gave me and Dave the other day when we were in dire need ....

Well, id have to say this machine is ALOT faster then my 4 port. Starting to notice some little thing as im checking it out. It seems the front grill has restrictions again, WTF. In the flow path, not infront of the bumper this time. Gotta deal with that but no big deal.

Well, id have to say this machine is ALOT faster then my 4 port. Starting to notice some little thing as im checking it out. It seems the front grill has restrictions again, WTF. In the flow path, not infront of the bumper this time. Gotta deal with that but no big deal.

When are you going to post pictures of this thing???

Oh, injectors/pulley are going in a week from Saturday, along with some Juansport bling-bling engine bay mods. :lol2:

Two weeks after that we'll both have an appointment with the drag strip, and hopefully join the 12 second club.

/\ 12 secs would be a real achievment - do it !!!!

Oh, injectors/pulley are going in a week from Saturday, along with some Juansport bling-bling engine bay mods. :lol2:

Two weeks after that we'll both have an appointment with the drag strip, and hopefully join the 12 second club.

Bling-Bling can also add whp...Trust me!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm205/doorcombo/bling_bling_teeth.jpg

My new set of 245-40-18 Mickey Thompson ET Street Drag Radial hopefully will make it happen. :eyetwitch

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm205/doorcombo/8824_2.jpg

^ That should definitely git-r-done! :cool:

So Juan would yo ube willing to meet at Pettit or near by, Im coming down to Daytona for the Rolex 24(sat-sun) will get down there late mourning thursday, Bastage has already offered to meet up for lunch one of the days, I was wondering if you would be willing to do the same... I would really like feel the difference of the new power....

watch 2nd gear--things may start a breaking!
how about skipping 2nd or 3nd gear?
Go dudes Go.
OD

yeah be careful. More power + more grip = more potential 'sudden' force on transmission.

Yeh, have you ever seen a tranny split a gear, ouch. The main thing is have it in gear. Funny you should say that, a buddy of mine bent his shift fork on his CBR. I watched him pull it appart he and straitened it. I told him I wouldnt do that if I were you, needless to say it broke a month later allowing it to shift in to 2 gears at once, did the slide for life, split 2 gears and made the bike a usless mess.

Hey guys gonna see if I can put Pettit on the schedule to meet up with Moon and Cam and see the birthplace of my SC,,,, Google earth is awesome its Blynch's car

and from the rear 3/4

That rocks, but when you think about it, big brother could be watchin you.

ahhaahah when was the last time Blynchs car was there...

The last time I drove a SC auto

Anyone Know A Used Traqmate System For Saled?
Olddragger

My new M/T DOT slick radials are due Monday and bastage and I have a tentative Palm Beach Raceway appointment on Friday February 13th. :Eyecrazy:

Also, I just ordered the 2009 RX8 under panels since most of my driving is on the highway. I already have a BeatRush under panel to complement the trio. :wiggle:

12s seconds quarter mile here we come. :eyetwitch

underpanels?

are they just to get smooth under body airflow or something?

I'm sure it is to do with the lower coefficient of drag on the '09 models.

Cheers,
Hymee.

I'm sure it is to do with the lower coefficient of drag on the '09 models.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Yes, sir. :eyetwitch

They should just call them underpants to keep it simple.

great minds think alike--i have some coming 1/31!
Also hope on a trans replacement--anyone know how to rebuild trans!!
oh yea Juan the 4:77 gear is now available Mazmart has it at $675 i believe.
OD

Just in case, I got it wrapped like a mommy. :naughty:

The lower intake you pevert. :nono:

dude--take that lower intake stuff off! It will heat you up.
Best thing to do is to take the intake off, vent it, and use the old hot rod trick of making your on phenolic gasket. That huge contact patch the lower intake has to the engine is what is heating it---not radiate heat in our cases as we have the exhaust system addressed (your wrap is visible man!!).
you still running a cat? If not then take the air pump stuff off, the vdi stuff off and you may be surprised how much more ventilation you will have all the way down to the injectors.
like the heater hose set up hehe:)
get the 4:77 gears a set of cheaters and go break stuff!!!
OD

dude--take that lower intake stuff off! It will heat you up.

Negative, it is not completely wrapped. It acts more like a shield.

Best thing to do is to take the intake off, vent it, and use the old hot rod trick of making your on phenolic gasket.

Maybe later if I have to take the engine off the car.

you still running a cat? Are you kidding, No.

If not then take the air pump stuff off, the vdi stuff off and you may be surprised how much more ventilation you will have all the way down to the injectors.

My header has an air tube. Maybe someone might sell a bolt on stripped down intake in the future. Then I will eliminate the pump and all the other stuff but for now it's staying.

get the 4:77 gears a set of cheaters and go break stuff!!!

I like my OEM gears for now since most of my driving is interstated highway.

OD
:eyetwitch

well i guess i struck out!!!!
Give them Hell Dude!!!
OD

well i guess i struck out!!!!OD

No need to apologize OD cuz it is all trial and error with a bit of old skool know-how. :eyetwitch

I was thinking about the same thing, really thick gasket or even 2 then a stainless shield between the intake and exaust keeping it closer to the exaust. How abot 2 or 3 gaskets between the block and exaust mainifold, headers that way once the heats out it dosnt sink back into the block. Just throwing ideas around.

hear ya----what Pettit should do is to get a phenolic gasket cut for the intake (sell it at $40 a pop!)and a bolt over shield for the header(i have). DId yall get that pic of my ventilated lower intake?
OD

DId yall get that pic of my ventilated lower intake?
OD

You did what? Posted a pic? Are you serious? Where? Can you post the pic again or tell me the post number. i have my coke glass bottle bottom glasses ready. Hit me. :eyetwitch

HA!! No I didnt post a pic---i e mailed it to Cam ...whimper:(
OD

maybe this will work........................................:squin t:
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=132551&stc=1&d=1232893430

OD

HA----I say HA----Damn all yall now---I will become a monster---if I can remember how I did that!
OD

lets see if i can do it again...........................................:u hh:
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=132555&stc=1&d=1232893667
Smooth --huh?
OD

HOT DAMN---I did it twice--and that hasnt happen since the 1st yr of marriage!
OD

you guys are having way too much fun. Simmah dahn nah.

I'm going to do it again!:Eyecrazy:
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=132556&stc=1&d=1232893828
and thats enough!
OD

Take THAT you sums of B"s (not yall) the damn computer gremlins!
Muhahahahahah!!!
I am too old for this .
OD

maybe one more time....http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=132557&stc=1&d=1232894164

dum de dum de dum--yall like yukon coils?
OD

AND ONE ...... the grans finali.......the OD ENGINE BAY...........

oopps--pushed the enter to fast---excitement--sorry---
here it is...............http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=132558&stc=1&d=1232894371

thats all--have to take my meds now.
ODl

AND ONE ...... the grans finali.......the OD ENGINE BAY...........
I must be going blind - did not see the engine bay pic??

pre mature posting--check again:)
OD

Really Nice Set-Up ODB...;)

maybe this will work........................................:squin t:
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=132551&stc=1&d=1232893430

OD

Your supposed to mount that to the engine, not your blinds, lol.

well its so purdy i wanted everyone to see and i can laugh a paintball through(open window) it and surprise folks:uhh:
OD

OD, on your lower intake, you still make use of the SSV and APV, correct? It was just the VDI that you eliminated, right? Trying to catch up to what you have been doing.

I like the look of the burst plate :) Just like a blown dragster.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Take THAT you sums of B"s (not yall) the damn computer gremlins!
Muhahahahahah!!!
I am too old for this .
OD

The man is totally out of control. :eyetwitch

I'm not worthy. :bowdown:

Again, it would be very nice if a vendor can produce a stripped down intake manifold for FI applications. :eyetwitch

right vdi is the only one eliminated
OD

dang didnt get to send what i did to the alternator arm support thingy---it is so purdy.
its drilled and polished.
OD

Again, it would be very nice if a vendor can produce a stripped down intake manifold for FI applications. :eyetwitch

What did you have in mind???

What did you have in mind???

Something ala RB holley intake aluminum intake. :eyetwitch

I don't how well the car will idle with the secondary constantly open. :dunno:

its going to hard to make any major improvement over the oem?

Moon--in May a lot of us are going to be tracking at Roebling Road in Savannah Ga area. There is a really nice guy that has a sweet fullt restored 3nf gen twin turbo RX7 that he usues only for the track. It still in the dd config however. I am going to ask if we can do a comparison between his and my cars- which has the fastest lap etc etc. Maybe Grassroot mag can pick this up as they like to do things like this sometimes. What do ya think?
I think I can outdrive him, but he sure is light.
OD
OD

WTF??? I go away one weekend to the 24hrs of Daytona and Denny learns how to post large pics ???

accident---:eyetwitch
hey did you ever get the noise from the beat rush trans brace figued out?--i just ordered one and at the very least can install just for the track. Was wondering about some rubber washers for it?

Question all---why do we get 14.4 volts at idle and then it falls to 13.2 with reving? No load on the car(lights, a/c, radio etc).
I always thought it would stay the same as idle or increase slightly.
hmmmmm?!
OD

accident---:eyetwitch
hey did you ever get the noise from the beat rush trans brace figued out?--i just ordered one and at the very least can install just for the track. Was wondering about some rubber washers for it?

Question all---why do we get 14.4 volts at idle and then it falls to 13.2 with reving? No load on the car(lights, a/c, radio etc).
I always thought it would stay the same as idle or increase slightly.
hmmmmm?!
OD

Yeah rubber bushings might work, its got poly on it now and I too am reserving it for track days only, its really really loud...

It might be higher on start up because of the extra power needed for things like the secondary air pump which turns off after the cats warmed up... typical auto volt is 13.8

My thinking also---but now it is running a constant 14.4--14.5 after i installed a bollen voltage stabilizer(like the buddy club one). E bay for $70. Sweet deal.
I may work on the brace--let you know what I find out.
OD

My car now has underpants………:wiggle:

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm205/doorcombo/Presentation1.jpg

Actually it now has the 09 under covers plus the previously installed BeatRush aluminum under panel. :eyetwitch

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm205/doorcombo/09under.jpg

hey guys am having a grumble noise that started alittle while ago and is gradually getting louder any opinions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsH6rMOxs8A

indigestion?
OD

idler pulley alignment or bearing---check tension and alignment---if that doesnt work it is a standard size bearing and local auto store carries them
OD

Thanks Denny, wish it wasnt 13degrees outside what would it be called? pulley bearing or what? and does it only require the removal of the pulley?...

boost controller is also $300.


For that much, I got a pulley and larger injectors....
:)

hey guys am having a grumble noise that started a little while ago and is gradually getting louder any opinions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsH6rMOxs8A

You must be married....

it be called? pulley bearing or what? and does it only require the removal of the pulley?...

Remove the idler pulley and belt. Start the engine to recheck for noise just to make sure. Behind the pulley you will notice a snap ring holding the bearing in place. Remove and call Pettit tomorrow for the right pulley part number. :eyetwitch

just idler pulley bearing--take yours out and take it with you --it has the numbers on it. I have one and can ship it to ya if you like but it is only a $10 part and you prob dont want to wait on mine.
ANd it may be adjustment---trying to tighten the belt if you are not careful can cause it to not be straight.
OD

Remove the idler pulley and belt. Start the engine to recheck for noise just to make sure. Behind the pulley you will notice a snap ring holding the bearing in place. Remove and call Pettit tomorrow for the right pulley part number. :eyetwitch

Yeh, do that, also when you get the belt off spin the blower slowly by hand, feel for sticky spot. I really hope you dont have one.

Thanks guys will try to do that this weekend,

Thanks guys will try to do that this weekend,

Do it NOW! :eyetwitch

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm205/doorcombo/respect_my_authority.jpg

Do it NOW! :eyetwitch

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm205/doorcombo/respect_my_authority.jpg

You will respect Jauns athoritay!!!!

Saturday is approaching pretty fast. Almost as fast as the car with another 40-50 hp, but not quite :eyetwitch

yes DO NOT run the car like that!
I have a new finding (for me anyway) for the EFI dude.
I noticed after i placed a bollen voltage stabilizer and upgrade some grounding points(used 4 ga cable on the engine to body grounded--ditto for the neg terminal --to body and added one from the neg battery post to the alternator ,my coils have a upgraded ground already) that the sensor readout via the efi dude (TPS, MAF, RPM etc) has a much smoother line now.
Guess I needed that. She does crank a tad quicker but other than that performance wise I cant tell a difference.
09 R3 MAY be in my future--depending.
I like that car.
OD

I have a new finding (for me anyway) for the EFI dude.
I noticed after i placed a bollen voltage stabilizer and upgrade some grounding points(used 4 ga cable on the engine to body grounded--ditto for the neg terminal --to body and added one from the neg battery post to the alternator ,my coils have a upgraded ground already) that the sensor readout via the efi dude (TPS, MAF, RPM etc) has a much smoother line now.
Guess I needed that. She does crank a tad quicker but other than that performance wise I cant tell a difference. OD

Same here. The more, the merrier. :eyetwitch

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm205/doorcombo/ElectricalMaintenance_02.jpg