What Cam should do is package them with a smaller pulley(and flash) and a coil upgrade,,,
I dont think anyone of us would pass that up!!!

^+1^:eyetwitch

OD, I used the same wiring diagram as Juan, and neither him nor I have had a lick of trouble.

-Yambo

i did too--and thats the fustrating part. Just my dang luck a gremblin of some sort has taken up residence in my ig system. I even soldered all the connections etc.
Can the capacitator go bad? But if it did it would affect ALL the firing on all coils--so cant be that.
Did you have to add a spacer to your pickup like Dann is speaking of? May try that.
currently just tracing all wires to insure all connections (did replace the power wire pigtail as it was busted up but it was wrapped etc and once repaired it didtnt make any difference), wires are ok and using this "oppitunity" to sanitize the harness/engine bay. also double checking the spark plu wires and installing wire loom to keep them separated well
I have female connectors for the oem set up--think i will order one new coil and make a plug and play system while running the stock set.
There should not be any difference as far as wiring between the yukon coils and the ls2 --right?
thanks for all the help guys.
olddragger

i did too--and thats the fustrating part. Just my dang luck a gremblin of some sort has taken up residence in my ig system. I even soldered all the connections etc.

Denny,

Did you soldered directly into the coils connectors? If so, you probably ruined the internal coil connectors/solder. I'm speaking from experience. :eyetwitch

i did too--and thats the fustrating part. Just my dang luck a gremblin of some sort has taken up residence in my ig system. I even soldered all the connections etc.
Can the capacitator go bad? But if it did it would affect ALL the firing on all coils--so cant be that.
Did you have to add a spacer to your pickup like Dann is speaking of? May try that.
currently just tracing all wires to insure all connections (did replace the power wire pigtail as it was busted up but it was wrapped etc and once repaired it didtnt make any difference), wires are ok and using this "oppitunity" to sanitize the harness/engine bay. also double checking the spark plu wires and installing wire loom to keep them separated well
I have female connectors for the oem set up--think i will order one new coil and make a plug and play system while running the stock set.
There should not be any difference as far as wiring between the yukon coils and the ls2 --right?thanks for all the help guys.
olddragger

Correct. They are exactly the same except the yukons have a heatsink on them and the mounting points are oriented differently.

So let me get this straight: your coils all work at low RPM but when you rev the engine some of them stop firing? If that's the case, you mostly likely have some bad coils. I had this problem initially with some used coils purchased off of ebay, and it was verified with a timing light. All 4 coils would work fine while idling, but once they went over 4k rpms, 2 of them would quit, and it was always the same 2 coils (we swapped connections/plug wires around on them to verify it was the coils and not the connectors/plug wires). Once I had some good coils in there, it ran excellently, and I haven't had a problem since. Test them out with a timing light and see if this is what's happening.

Test them out with a timing light and see if this is what's happening.

+1 :eyetwitch

The timing light verification method works best if you tape it to the windscreen and have a passenger watch it while you beat the living crap out of the car.
Testing at idle won't tell you much.

The timing light verification method works best if you tape it to the windscreen and have a passenger watch it while you beat the living crap out of the car.
Testing at idle won't tell you much.

Right, especially since his seem to fire fine while idling.

Correct. They are exactly the same except the yukons have a heatsink on them and the mounting points are oriented differently.



I read the Yukons actually have more current flow, but even the LS* coils have way more spark than the stock coils.

What is the scoop with the connector on these LSx coils?

The problem I'm chasing is intermittent. http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=161523

Cheers,
Hymee.

yes i soldered the wires of the connectors to the harness wires--about 3 inches of wire from the connector itself--my connectors were preformed and had wires already.Used a mini torch to do it. It was 36F while I was doing this--I got a tad bit cold. What internal solder are yall talking about---should I just use connectors then? Juan didnt you form your own connectors?
Got my oems back on(had to re solder all those d--- wires--)-car runs like a top now.
As stated probably bad coils--i did get them from e bay but its a long standing company. Havent given up---ran across some female connectors for the oem ones so a plug and play set up is being formed
right--- mine was ok at idle, at crank and at free rev--it was only when a slight load was placed on the car like acceleration or going up a hill--so bad it was not drivable. Just my d--- luck.
At least she is ok now to get me to my class with Eric Meyer concerning rx8 chassis set up at Road Atlanta this w/e.
thanks for all the support ---will try again after Christmas.
Have a fuel system to now work on.
OD

yes i soldered the wires of the connectors to the harness wires--about 3 inches of wire from the connector itself--my connectors were preformed and had wires already.Used a mini torch to do it. It was 36F while I was doing this--I got a tad bit cold. What internal solder are yall talking about---should I just use connectors then? Juan didnt you form your own connectors?
Got my oems back on(had to re solder all those d--- wires--)-car runs like a top now.
As stated probably bad coils--i did get them from e bay but its a long standing company. Havent given up---ran across some female connectors for the oem ones so a plug and play set up is being formed
right--- mine was ok at idle, at crank and at free rev--it was only when a slight load was placed on the car like acceleration or going up a hill--so bad it was not drivable. Just my d--- luck.
At least she is ok now to get me to my class with Eric Meyer concerning rx8 chassis set up at Road Atlanta this w/e.
thanks for all the support ---will try again after Christmas.
Have a fuel system to now work on.
OD

Is the business you bought them from in COLUMBUS,OH 43231?

If so, they sell used/probably factory rejected coils they claim to be new. 2 of mine were bad, so I sent them all back, and got 4 as replacement, which had at least one that didn't seem to like high RPMs, because it felt a little off. I ended up just buying the Yukons from Northeast Core and Component (which were definitely new) and have not had a problem.

What is the scoop with the connector on these LSx coils?


http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=2297851&postcount=37

http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=2297851&postcount=37

Thanks! I knew one of me buddies would point me in the right direction instead of yelling about the search button. :)

Cheers,
Hymee.

Thanks! I knew one of me buddies would point me in the right direction instead of yelling about the search button. :)

Cheers,
Hymee.

http://www.mazdamaniac.com/images/misc/searchdumbass.jpg

haha, first the carrot, and THEN the stick! 8)

http://www.mazdamaniac.com/images/misc/searchdumbass.jpg

Hahaha. I must be that clever that I don't get that on my main menu !! LOL.

OD, i'll take some pictures of my setup and post them here so you'll have another visual. I also soldered my connections.

Life is good! From a cruising 80 mph to 129 mph with AF ratios below 12. Although fuel pressure/flow was plenty judging by the AF ratios, a fuel pressure gauge is in the works to make sure the fuel pressure does not drop due to my new secondary 440 injectors. I also have something else in the works, ha! :eyetwitch

For you MAF junkies, a datalog from this afternoon:

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=129854&stc=1&d=1228374611

Yes, that is 387 g/sec at 6800 RPM in 4th. Load of 2.0.

Good stuff. Nice airflow. I bet that keeps you pushed into the seat!

PS Juan. You never stop! Keep adding bits mate! 8)

nice numbers dude.
txs mork after the reverse analysis was done it boils down to one coil totally shot and one coil marginal. I have some female plugs for the oem one and i am going to make a plug and play harness.
The guys I got the coils from are not in ohio and they are talking to me. You are right I dont think they were new.
right now trying to get some Yokohama s drive tires on--the ford place here screwed me over--i took time off from work etc for my appointment install and I get there and suddenly they cant do it. There guy is "tied up" on another job(great guy by the way)--pissed me off. They should have called me. Guess an $800 set of tires doesnt matter to them. Told them to forgot it.
OD
OD

alright still having the stall issue...
Only happens after stopping for gas, no matter what my driving habbits were prior.
this time it took 4 start ups to finally have it sit at idle...
Any suggestions? simularities....
I will data log this next time since I know its a instance I can easily replicate...

alright still having the stall issue...
Only happens after stopping for gas, no matter what my driving habbits were prior.
this time it took 4 start ups to finally have it sit at idle...
Any suggestions? simularities....
I will data log this next time since I know its a instance I can easily replicate...

Try checking your coils, since the trail fires first at idle you might have one going bad. When we did the install on Rolands car wich only had 700 miles on it, if I recall, 3 of his coils were bad already. I cant count how many went bad on my car.

Well folks, I guess is time to let you know about my latest mod. After weeks of begging Cam let me purchase an SC Automatic eccentric shaft pulley. I other words, a 5-inch pulley instead of the SC Manual 4.5-inch. I finally had the time to install it this afternoon. I took the car for a quick around town test and I immediately noticed a bit more of blower whine were before I could not hear due to my Exotic Speed header/RB race pipe/RB exhaust combo. I got 10.3 psi boost at @ 8200 rpm. The SC belt needs a bit more tightening (new gatorback 33.5 inch) but I’m waiting for it to stretch before I readjust it. According to a website with a pulley conversion that I use, my new drive pulley ratio is 1.479 from 1.331 At 8200 rpm the blower is turning at 12,127 rpm. I would have to hit 8800 rpm in other to max the blower’s 13000 rpm but why should I since 8200 rpm is where peak hp rest. Noticed that my AF ratio fluctuate below 12 when the engine rpm is below 8000 rpm and just over 12 after 8000 rpm.

Anyway, before you start thinking (I got to get me one of this) I highly recommend you to address your SC RX8 ignition, injectors and methanol injection or you might end up rebuilding your engine due to a catastrophic case of detonation. Mine runs with MSD and NGK 10.5 leading ~ 11.5 trailing plugs for ignition, 440 (blue) secondary injectors, 50/50 mix of VP Racing M-5 methanol, RP 10W-40 and K&N oil filter.

I’m installing a temporary fuel pressure gauge tomorrow just to verify that the fuel pressure does not drop below 60 psi while at full throttle (drive it like you stole it) mode and from sustained highway cruising speed to (I hope there is not a cop ahead, behind or around the corner) mode. :eyetwitch :eyetwitch :eyetwitch

:yumyum: :yumyum: :yumyum: very nice.....

you are the man dude--have been building to this havent ya!
time to go to a 20/50 oil and warm her up gently?
wise to be careful with the fuel pressure.
what are your thoughts on the front bearing stress?
OD

Go Juan! And Ray! Don't blow up though!

PS I know everyone says power is addictive etc, but for me, my car is awesome now.
I have no desire for anymore. Just more opportunities to hit the track etc....

what are your thoughts on the front bearing stress?
OD

Pre-mix with 10mg Valium per gallon.
:) :) :) :) :) :):) :) :) :) :)


We are adding more torsional loading, but I have not yet heard of any front bearing failure, even if you are not running the 20-W50 as recommended by Pettit.
(Hopes I won't need to check that bearing, ever)

I use 20-W50 Valvoline or Castrol for the engine (dino flavoured) and use Royal Purple 20-W50 in the blower itself.
I have always liked the tear down results of an engine running Valvoline.
It's very nice to have no crud in the crankcase when an engine is torn down.
I have not yet torn apart a Castrol engine, but I have had as many friends swear by Castrol as Valvoline.

you are the man dude--have been building to this havent ya!
time to go to a 20/50 oil and warm her up gently?
Negative Ghost Rider. I'll do that after an engine rebuilt and replacement of the Eccentric Shaft Thermal Pellet.
wise to be careful with the fuel pressure.
what are your thoughts on the front bearing stress?
Every time I think of it I get flashback from a nasty clap episode while stationed in Korea back in 1986.
OD

:eyetwitch

Pre-mix with 10mg Valium per gallon.
:) :) :) :) :) :):) :) :) :) :)


We are adding more torsional loading, but I have not yet heard of any front bearing failure, even if you are not running the 20-W50 as recommended by Pettit.
(Hopes I won't need to check that bearing, ever)

I use 20-W50 Valvoline or Castrol for the engine (dino flavoured) and use Royal Purple 20-W50 in the blower itself.
I have always liked the tear down results of an engine running Valvoline.
It's very nice to have no crud in the crankcase when an engine is torn down.
I have not yet torn apart a Castrol engine, but I have had as many friends swear by Castrol as Valvoline.

"Dino Flavoured" Eek! :icon_no2:

Is not about crud/sludge in the crankcase. Is about keeping all the rotor seals and rotor O-rings from getting stuck/brittle due to dino spuge leftover.

RP 50 weight for the blower and a cocktail of lead (to combat Florida's 10% ethanol gas) and Marvel Mystery Oil for pre-mix. :eyetwitch

did they treat that clap with the old marine corp method involving a hammer?!:)

DIno for me after tearing down my engine with 50K and 40K of that on RP. SHould have seen my front bearing. It was through the copper on one side. This was really before the s.c. and the belts were OK. Rest of her looked pretty good as far as waer was concerned--the lubricated areas I mean.
Castrol GTX 20w/50 for me. I have heard people swear by valvoline also.
Changing oil q 3K-5K and keeping the engine cool will take care of the seals etc.
DO NOT run RP in the trans!!!
On the pellant --i have heard both pros and cons on doing that.
Has the intake temps gone up with the increased boost? Time to change the w/m nozzles?
Yokohama s drive tires on today for every day driving---very sweet! Makes a new car out of it.
OD

did they treat that clap with the old marine corp method involving a hammer?!:)
OD

A hammer? :Eyecrazy:

Nope, a trip down to the ville home schooled doctor. Total cost a jar of mayo and two packets of hotdogs (black-market items back then). :eyetwitch

Well folks, I guess is time to let you know about my latest mod. After weeks of begging Cam let me purchase an SC Automatic eccentric shaft pulley. I other words, a 5-inch pulley instead of the SC Manual 4.5-inch. I finally had the time to install it this afternoon. I took the car for a quick around town test and I immediately noticed a bit more of blower whine were before I could not hear due to my Exotic Speed header/RB race pipe/RB exhaust combo. I got 10.3 psi boost at @ 8200 rpm. The SC belt needs a bit more tightening (new gatorback 33.5 inch) but I’m waiting for it to stretch before I readjust it. According to a website with a pulley conversion that I use, my new drive pulley ratio is 1.479 from 1.331 At 8200 rpm the blower is turning at 12,127 rpm. I would have to hit 8800 rpm in other to max the blower’s 13000 rpm but why should I since 8200 rpm is where peak hp rest. Noticed that my AF ratio fluctuate below 12 when the engine rpm is below 8000 rpm and just over 12 after 8000 rpm.

Anyway, before you start thinking (I got to get me one of this) I highly recommend you to address your SC RX8 ignition, injectors and methanol injection or you might end up rebuilding your engine due to a catastrophic case of detonation. Mine runs with MSD and NGK 10.5 leading ~ 11.5 trailing plugs for ignition, 440 (blue) secondary injectors, 50/50 mix of VP Racing M-5 methanol, RP 10W-40 and K&N oil filter.

I’m installing a temporary fuel pressure gauge tomorrow just to verify that the fuel pressure does not drop below 60 psi while at full throttle (drive it like you stole it) mode and from sustained highway cruising speed to (I hope there is not a cop ahead, behind or around the corner) mode. :eyetwitch :eyetwitch :eyetwitch

I'm glad others are trying this. You should be seeing 10lbs of boost@4000 rpm though. Also, the blower is now spinning @13,800. Not to worry though, it can handle even more than that.

-Yambo

are you enticing the sale of them ???

Castrol GTX 20w/50 for me. I have heard people swear by valvoline also. OD

Well I'll stick with RP since it is what Racing Beat recommends and have the experience/reputation to back them up. Also David Canitz RP Tech Services Manager and professional race drive of a GT3 RX3 (Big Time Rotorhead) recommends the same. Heck! I use synthetic oil even on my lawn mower. Now that I think of…I wonder if synthetic oil can enhance french-fries flavor like MSG? :eyetwitch

You should be seeing 10lbs of boost@4000 rpm though.

I'm getting there. I installed a temporary fuel pressure gauge today but did not have the time to take the car for a test. BTW all previous log attachments were taken with the DSC on. I will do a couple of passes with the DSC off once I feel comfortable with my current setup. :eyetwitch

Has the intake temps gone up with the increased boost? It is hard to tell cuz the ambient temp was 55 at the time I took it for a spin.
Time to change the w/m nozzles?
I will find out later this month at the dyno. For now 100m/l before the blower and 60m/l after the blower.OD :eyetwitch

PS Juan. You never stop! Keep adding bits mate! 8)

That’s right…here’s what’s coming next: :eyetwitch

RX-8 Race Pipe with Presilencers

The RX-8 forums have been active with requests for a resonated RX-8 Race Pipe, and we've responded!
It seems that the popular Mazsport resonated race pipe (which featured dual Racing Beat universal presilencers) is no longer available on the market. We've decided to fill the void and offer a revised version of this resonated race pipe using two presilencers that have been specifically designed for the limited space available in the RX-8 chassis. These reconfigured presilencer units will assure adequate chassis clearance and eliminate the need for the "spacer" blocks that were required with the Mazsport unit. The revised presilencers should be in-house within 6-8 weeks.
Thanks to all of the RX-8 forum members for their input!

you will like that midpipe--i have been running one for some time and it is as quiet as stock until you hammer it down. the spacers were no problem. need just a little room--not much.
OD

That’s right…here’s what’s coming next: :eyetwitch

RX-8 Race Pipe with Presilencers

The RX-8 forums have been active with requests for a resonated RX-8 Race Pipe, and we've responded!
It seems that the popular Mazsport resonated race pipe (which featured dual Racing Beat universal presilencers) is no longer available on the market. We've decided to fill the void and offer a revised version of this resonated race pipe using two presilencers that have been specifically designed for the limited space available in the RX-8 chassis. These reconfigured presilencer units will assure adequate chassis clearance and eliminate the need for the "spacer" blocks that were required with the Mazsport unit. The revised presilencers should be in-house within 6-8 weeks.
Thanks to all of the RX-8 forum members for their input!

Ha I got that newsletter too,, I posted it in the RB header development thread...

I'm glad others are trying this. You should be seeing 10lbs of boost@4000 rpm though.
-Yambo
are you serious - 10lbs at 4000 rpm ? I thought the SC did not reach max boost till max rpm ?

Lysom style chargers arent like what your thinking,,, I can hit max boost any gear any rpm...

better post up a dyno then - cause earlier dynos of the Petit kit did not seem to reflect this .....

earlier dynos waved around by Jeff or the ones that have been posted in threads that are currently locked becasue of Pettit haters?
I have nothing against Jeff or BHR, and Ray is one of the nicest and most informed people on this forum, but you guys should really stop shitting in here

I'm genuinely interested - not shitting at all

Well then, I havent Dynoed yet I just installed three weeks ago, theres a local tuner that just got the pro logger software for the 8's Cobb AP and Cobb is doing a 10% sale during December that will probably never happen again ,,, sooo it should be very soon...

Of course Im not one of ther lucky few testers that happens to have the new pulley, but I hit 7lbs on a conservative tune from Pettit

EDIT- well maybe not 'any' rpms,,,(pre-measures against language/grammer mongers)

Lysom style chargers arent like what your thinking,,, I can hit max boost any gear any rpm...

Uh, yeah. :icon_no2:

pre-measures against language/grammer mongers

How about just fact-mongers?

how about fucking people with no life other than a forum

awaiting some kinda smart ass remark... But thats ok I still have nothing personal against you, you just need to be put on a leash sometimes:lol: ...

ohh yeah another pre-warning ,, yeah I know you know more than me:lol2: ...

how about fucking people with no life other than a forum


Yeah. All I do is sit around here.


you just need to be put on a leash sometimes

I'm already wearing your mom's harness, so why not.:lol2:

Claims ain't facts until the dyno sheet appears.....

10lbs at any rpm, 7lbs at any rpm, whatever - post it or take the criticism.

S

I can take it...
Norm and Juan are the ones running the new hardware...

nice sig by the way, I waited a whole what two days for my FI option...

Pettit, continuing to make other wishfull owners eat words they regret. Ok, once everything is ironed out with the injectors, bags of them that Cam showed me, who wants to put there car up for a nice dyno to state another fact?????? I have $10 on 335, 340WHP. TQ, thats to be seen, :eyetwitch very curios myself.

hmm interesting, I assume we are talking about the two pre mentioned SCs that have yet to be dynoed....

Yep, no crapping on this thread anymore, that goes for everybody. Time will tell, assumptions, well you now.

At 8200 rpm the blower is turning at 12,127 rpm. I would have to hit 8800 rpm in other to max the blower’s 13000 rpm but why should I since 8200 rpm is where peak hp rest. Noticed that my AF ratio fluctuate below 12 when the engine rpm is below 8000 rpm and just over 12 after 8000 rpm.
. :eyetwitch :eyetwitch :eyetwitch

You do not shift at peack hp ... unells you have mad torque... you have to look at what power you land in next gear, most of the time it is still lower then at redline.

But yes, you do not want to get too klose to blower limits.

Well, just a thought, I overspun my 1.4 blower buy alot, like 7k and more for a long time 10k with no ill effects on the blower but it was at low boost, from what I hear if you overspin at more boost you run the risk of raising output temps but since your well within the recomended max psi (30 psi I think) You might get away from that issue over spinning with meth keeping your air temps down. If you can get say 15 psi buy changing out your pullys, its still well with in the Blower perameters, any thoughts????

Yokohama s drive tires on today for every day driving---very sweet! Makes a new car out of it.
OD

I got the Yokohama Advan Sports on mine and they are really good so far.
Very impressed.

Today I finally got the time to take the car for a spin with the temporary fuel pressure gauge. I drove the car over 30 miles at various speeds, on the go acceleration and take off with just a ¼ of a tank in order to make it a worst-case scenario. My son monitored the gauge the whole time and kept giving me feedback while I monitored my AEM AF ratio gauge just to make sure I did not go lean. At the end the OEM fuel pump did its job. It maintained pressure no matter the conditions (except lateral acceleration). :eyetwitch

After disconnecting the temporary fuel pressure gauge and filling the fuel tank at $1:85 a gallon for premium we then hit the road again for some EFIdude logs. The chart below shows fifth gear acceleration from 57 mph to 107 mph and with a final 11.3 psi boost. :eyetwitch

My highest boost reading was 11.5 psi on forth gear and I still need to re-adjust the blower belt. Ambient temp was 75 degrees and the AIT was 78 degrees thanks to my 50/50 VP Racing M-5 mixture.

The car feels 100% better. :ylsuper:

I’m going to dyno it within the next few weeks and see if the butt dyno matches the real dyno. :eyetwitch

What kind of airflow are you seeing??

What kind of airflow are you seeing??

Three fity fife so far and I still need to re-adjust the blower belt. :eyetwitch

All my high readings are in a quick burst in 1st or second gear, as I do not have higher flow injectors yet. (I pray for my rotor seals)
The seat of the pants dyno tells me it feels strong.
I have seen 10 PSI on my boost gauge, but I do not have the time to examine it closely when the engine is screaming and the car is trying to go sideways.
I don't have traction control on my model car, or really any traction at all in low gears.

all I have to say is:

Nice!

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I’m going to dyno it within the next few weeks and see if the butt dyno matches the real dyno. :eyetwitch[/QUOTE]

juan,

let me know when you are going to go.. i will meet you! :)

beers :beer:

Swoope,
Brice tells me you may sitll have a new RP supercat that you may be interested in selling...
Im going to check mine, Im having the same problems Juan was when his went bad.... PM the price and availability...

Swoope,
Brice tells me you may sitll have a new RP supercat that you may be interested in selling...
Im going to check mine, Im having the same problems Juan was when his went bad.... PM the price and availability...

ok,

but i would be sending it back if you got it from them. they are supporting the product. :)

beers :beer:

my car is my DD and I got the RP because my OEM blew up,,, so that would mean my car would have to sit for a while, and that means LWOP for me...

lol Ray, you've never overstayed your welcome,,, as far as Im concerned you all class and no ass...

:Drooling_ :Drooling_ :Drooling_ Wish my car wasnt my DD so it could be tuners test mule....

are you serious - 10lbs at 4000 rpm ? I thought the SC did not reach max boost till max rpm ?

Yes. This is not with the standard pulley setup. It is with the 5" blower drive pulley. I was using it several months ago.

Juan, I noticed you have made a few posts in regards to your belt. I purchased a Goodyear Gatorback 5PK350, which is slightly longer than the belt we get from Pettit. It worked just fine, while producing the aforementioned boost numbers.

Yes. This is not with the standard pulley setup. It is with the 5" blower drive pulley. I was using it several months ago.

Juan, I noticed you have made a few posts in regards to your belt. I purchased a Goodyear Gatorback 5PK350, which is slightly longer than the belt we get from Pettit. It worked just fine, while producing the aforementioned boost numbers.

Yes, same here, I needed a 33.5 inch belt compared to the stock 32.5 inch.

It will be a while before I get to dyno, I still need the bigger injectors AND a set of Yukon ignition coils.
It really looks like Juan is the only one ready to dyno.

Yes. This is not with the standard pulley setup. It is with the 5" blower drive pulley. I was using it several months ago.

Juan, I noticed you have made a few posts in regards to your belt. I purchased a Goodyear Gatorback 5PK350, which is slightly longer than the belt we get from Pettit. It worked just fine, while producing the aforementioned boost numbers.

Yup, that's the one I'm currently running. I re-adjusted the belt this morning before heading to work. I was able to hit a solid 12 psi boost. I'm going to take a short video this evening on my way home and hope to have it on youtube after 10:30 tonight. :eyetwitch

12 psi! Blimey!

Looking forward to the vids, and hopefully not as shaky as the ones we made, haha!

Little sunday drive, sorry its in a Subi

http://video.kenblockracing.com/flash/small_player/preloader.swf?vendor_id=204&media_id=9183&bgcolor=FFFFFF&autoplay

Its gonna be hard Ray its a very limited customer base.... I'd be interested later after acouple people would prove it there are still other areas of my car I want to address first....

Yeah, well the first prototype of the BHR blower drive kit is about to be built but alternate ratios were never the key point. ZERO belt slippage at all RPMs is. Now that I am seeing higher overdrive ratios (from the Pettit-spec'd ratio of 1.46:1) in action and hearing of their effectiveness I am considering adding a second blower pulley to the kit. I just need to know if anybody really cares because my chosen tester and you, Rotr8, seem to be the only Pettit SC owners willing to engage conversation with me these days.

Sorry Ray I did not know you felt a little neglected. Here is a big (non ghey) one from me. :kiss:

:cuddle: We've all been extremely busy I guess. Here's another non-ghey one from me.

:cuddle: We've all been extremely busy I guess. Here's another non-ghey one from me.

Here IS a gay one... :kiss:

Rotr8, seem to be the only Pettit SC owners willing to engage conversation with me these days.

Yo, Ray.

Did I miss something about ignoring you?
Was there a memo? :icon_no2:

Well people I only got up to 11.3 psi boost cuz I ran out of road and very hard to film and drive going that fast. The pull was done on fourth gear and sorry for the poor quality. :eyetwitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DMthgPrmZM

The first log shows when it hit 12 psi on 5th gear and the second shows 11.3 psi on 4th gear. :eyetwitch

Yeah, well the first prototype of the BHR blower drive kit is about to be built but alternate ratios were never the key point. ZERO belt slippage at all RPMs is. Now that I am seeing higher overdrive ratios (from the Pettit-spec'd ratio of 1.46:1) in action and hearing of their effectiveness I am considering adding a second blower pulley to the kit. I just need to know if anybody really cares because my chosen tester and you, Rotr8, seem to be the only Pettit SC owners willing to engage conversation with me these days.

you know i still love ya Ray!!!.....
i am happy with my set up at present...focusing on another vehicle...lookin at some TRD stuff...:lol2:

perhaps we will be doing some business later on down the line?????

The first log shows when it hit 12 psi on 5th gear and the second shows 11.3 psi on 4th gear. :eyetwitch

Awsome, bet shes a real ripper.

yeah from what MM said earlier in the thread when we were discussing MAFs etc, the OEM MAF is pegged at 369, and you are right on that now Juan..

PS also a friendly hug going out to Ray! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DMthgPrmZM

Uh, why is it sideways?

My neck hurts....

I am currently experimenting with the COBB AP/Racetuner software trying to get the MAF values nailed down. This will be of the utmost import in regards to tuning for the different sized ratios.

If I lived close to Cam, I would take him my car so he and Dian could make a decent tune with the EFI Dude. Alas, I don't, so i'll be doing this myself.

-Yambo

I am currently experimenting with the COBB AP/Racetuner software trying to get the MAF values nailed down. This will be of the utmost import in regards to tuning for the different sized ratios.

If I lived close to Cam, I would take him my car so he and Dian could make a decent tune with the EFI Dude. Alas, I don't, so i'll be doing this myself.

-Yambo

I spoke with Juan, he has 0 long term fuel trims.
Juan was working with Cam via emailing EFI log files.

I spoke with Juan, he has 0 long term fuel trims.
Juan was working with Cam via emailing EFI log files.

I did as well several months ago. I have my own reasons for wanting to use the AP.

Hey Denny what happened to your tips, tweaks and improvements thread,,, Its totally gone, did you delete it or did the mods delete it???:icon_no2: .....

Dont know?
yesterday Eric Meyer spent 2 hrs with us at his Road Atlanta set up (wicked flat black paint cars!) and we talked about brakes, suspension setup, engine air flow, cooling, fuel supply systems--especially fuel pressure issues, running without the mop, advantages and disadvantages of non return versus return fuel systems, lower intake variables, and the vdi--among other things!:Eyecrazy: He even gave us hats with the club name sewn it the side of it--divers talked with all of us, watched them working on the cars etc etc-- Eric is one class act--his entire team also was nothing but the best. Many thanks to you Sir, many thanks for taking time with the locals like you did. Most impressive.
Eric was interested in the amount of air we are moving and confirmed our thoughts/practices concerning the vdi. They do much more with the intake than we do--they want flow rates on the intake i have done.
After that the Roar racing team let us park beside them and as always Roar made us feel like family--we talked more about the cars and started to get into even more detail. Roar is like a brother too us and dont think we dont appreciate it.

Got a lot of confirmation about the direction of which I am heading in addressing fuel pressure/starvation issues. One word of caution---if you have a fuel cut issue--the engine does not like it--right? Well you can have a slight reduction in fuel pressure and not know it and lose about 40hp! We need to watch fp issues a little closer than we do.
Be careful with the blues(injectors) the spray pattern is much coarser(we know)--just be aware when you are tuning.
our man Nabil missed the TTD championship by 1 sec against a race prepared BMW with stripped interior, full roll cage, full race harness and so forth. Get the picture?. He turned a tad bit over a 1:44--which aint bad at all:), His 8 is basically stock, tomico shocks , rb bars, act flywheel and REVI intake and i think that is it!
he is running 17" tires with new r compounds for this event. His car has at least 8-9K track miles on it and I think over 70K---original engine--replaced trans x 1.
We are proud on him--did good.
Lots of stuff.
OD

Hey Denny what happened to your tips, tweaks and improvements thread,,, Its totally gone, did you delete it or did the mods delete it???:icon_no2: .....

You need to display older threads (last year rather than last 100 days).

Thanks Grex!!!

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I’m going to dyno it within the next few weeks and see if the butt dyno matches the real dyno. :eyetwitch

juan,

let me know when you are going to go.. i will meet you! :)

beers :beer:[/QUOTE]

Dyno at Delirium on Saturday 8:00 AM and please bring your avatar girl along with you. :eyetwitch

Eric was interested in the amount of air we are moving and confirmed our thoughts/practices concerning the vdi. They do much more with the intake than we do--they want flow rates on the intake i have done.

OD
please elaborate



Be careful with the blues(injectors) the spray pattern is much coarser(we know)--just be aware when you are tuning.
OD

what are you saying ? A small adjustment will make a big diff to AFR ?

The "blues" have a spray pattern that is slightly more coarse than the "yellow" injectors.
It has little to no effect on AFR.

so that means you have to do what to dial them in ?

Same thing as any other injector.

exactly--just a factor to keep in mind. Less atomization of the fuel can affect flame front etc. Probably will never be an issue for us but you never know..
Fuel pressures will become more and more important as we continue.
Eric was asking about flow results we have seen in regard to the vdi(i believe most of us disable that) as they too disable it. I dont want to devulge any of their propiertary secrets on the lower intake, but I will say that it is a stock intake, they just do differant things with it. Most of which would not suit us street guys. OK?
He was interested in my finding that the vdi even when closed is NOT sealed totally. He says that he has seen some which appear to be and some which definitly are not. It is much more easily recognized when boost is applied. I have a lower intake i have been messing around with in which I have toally sealed the vdi and ported/smoothed the upper ports of the lower intake(there are multiple ridges etc that can be removed etc) and I used the old funnel concept in continuing throughout the channels--also did a little bit of stuff on the sausages.
He would like to see it flow tested.
I can reveal that they run without an mop and use 1 1/2 oz's per gal of premix. And they pay strict attention to fuel filters.
It was an excellant day.
OD

i wonder why the electrical scematic is differant than the actual wiring concerning the coils? The scematic has the trigger wire located in the middle of the connector but the actual site is the right handed side. Curious.
anybody out there??
OD

i wonder why the electrical scematic is differant than the actual wiring concerning the coils? The scematic has the trigger wire located in the middle of the connector but the actual site is the right handed side. Curious.
anybody out there??
OD

Huh? No it doesn't.

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=130326&stc=1&d=1229111706

Denny: Got to look at the plug diagrams to figure it out :)

<singing>
"A, B, C, D, E, F, G."
</singing>

wait a min---the scematic has the trigger wire color coded y/g (for example) has the pin in the middle of the connector--correct? In acutally on the 2 harness's I have worked with that wire the y/g one is on a pin on the side of that connector--not in the middle. Further more the solid black wire(ground) in these hareness's is in the middle of that connector. On the schematic it is shown as being on the side.
I am talking about the diagram in the schematic that has all four coils shown in a group. I know it is differant in the individual pictures of each coil connector.
got yall's attention?
Olddragger

got yall's attention?


No. You are misreading the schematic.

I think the problem is OD is reading the schematic as if it were a diagram.
The order of the coil connector wires is shown as "C - A - B" in the schematic for clarity, even though the actual connector is "A - B - C".
That is how schematics work. They aren't a physical representation of the layout of components. Rather, they are a sort of "flow chart" that explains the movement of electrons in the clearest fashion possible, without regards to the configuration of the hardware.

^^ Yup...Mazda especially tends to put things in the easiest way to read/draw layout...not in the actual plug layout...that's why they put the plug diagrams on as well

Yes. Electrical engineers have far different objectives than do mechanics, technicians, and assemblers, and they communicate differently.

And they like screwing with them as much as possible too :lol:

Porn works with both ;)

Porn works with both ;)

Yes. The great communications equalizer!

well learn something everyday--frigging world is screwed up--we all need to speak in the same language if we want to communicate---like PORN is porn is porn.
Wait a minute I seem to remember seeing something about donkeys once---nope that aint porn to me!
Need another example. Maybe----???
OD

well learn something everyday--frigging world is screwed up--we all need to speak in the same language if we want to communicate---like PORN is porn is porn.
Wait a minute I seem to remember seeing something about donkeys once---nope that aint porn to me!
Need another example. Maybe----???
OD

Donkey? (http://topratings.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/donkey-pulling-cart.jpg)
:uhh:

Hi every one,

just happy to ay that I ordered yesterday a petit racing supercharger :)

can't wait ti install it :lol:

Hi every one,

just happy to ay that I ordered yesterday a petit racing supercharger :)

can't wait ti install it :lol:

Congratulations man, you will not be disappointed. Welcome to the addiction.

BTW, met up with Juan this morning at Delirium Motorsports.... it was... fun... :eyetwitch :Eyecrazy:

More details and videos/pictures to come...

Well guys and girls I took the car this morning for a dyno test after my last mods. Everything looked promising to brake the 400 whp but to my and Bastage disappointment my car was only able to achieve 327 whp on the first pull and 330 whp on the second. I think all the time spent researching and mods trials did not come to fruition. I’m contemplating listing the car on eBay…NOT! :wiggle:

Many thanks to:

Delirium-Motorsports Dyno
2828 Michigan Ave.
Kissimmee, Fl 34744
321-286-6641

:eyetwitch

great result - going to post it up ?

Hell yeh, thats what im talkin about

I see you throttled down at 8300, why didnt you hit redline????

I see you throttled down at 8300, why didnt you hit redline????

Didn't want to risk it for a couple of more whp. I'm an hour away/50 miles from the dyno location. :eyetwitch

It looks like your stepping into a sick power band.

what psi were you at ?

what psi were you at ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk99SuPrCp8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtINFMTOUdY

9.6 psi on 3rd gear dyno.

11.3 psi on 4th gear on the highway.

12 psi on 5th gear on the highway. :eyetwitch

i'll ask ... Why does the psi go up with each gear ?

very nice Juan!!!!.....

:D:

congrats. Once you break 330, you won't want to go back under 300.

congrats. Once you break 330, you won't want to go back under 300.

Thanks :eyetwitch

very nice Juan!!!!.....

:D:

Thanks...ready to update yours? :eyetwitch

congrats. Once you break 330, you won't want to go back under 300.

Why did you then? :eyetwitch

Why did you then? :eyetwitch

Not by choice. I was going to sell the car.

Getting ready to go top mount turbo shortly. Just bought the intercooler last night :)

good job!
That must be pretty crazy to drive!

good job!
That must be pretty crazy to drive!

I drove it after the dyno... just have to say wow.

My car will be this crazy soon.

some pictures:

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/DSC_0002.jpg
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/DSC_0011.jpg
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/DSC_0017-1.jpg
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/DSC_0031-1.jpg
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/DSC_0061.jpg
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/DSC_0063.jpg

i'll ask ... Why does the psi go up with each gear ?
The slower the acceleration the less air the engine excepts.

It looks like your stepping into a sick power band.

Tell you what I found from experiance with this kit on my car, I bumped the redline to 8500 from 7500, it made it a whole new animal. Thats with the smaller ports on the auto. You look like your just tapping that same powerband like I had from 7,000 to 8,500 except your RPM tune is higher port wise. You see how your TQ jumps at that same RPM, its comming on like a 2 stroke but better. Kinda like a periff port likes 8,000 plus. Im not telling you to do it but if conditions ar correct it might come on like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2ung98buGc

.06 and .11 secounds into the video gotta do your motor though.

Well guys and girls I took the car this morning for a dyno test after my last mods. Everything looked promising to brake the 400 whp but to my and Bastage disappointment my car was only able to achieve 327 whp on the first pull and 330 whp on the second. I think all the time spent researching and mods trials did not come to fruition. I’m contemplating listing the car on eBay…NOT! :wiggle:

Many thanks to:

Delirium-Motorsports Dyno
2828 Michigan Ave.
Kissimmee, Fl 34744
321-286-6641

:eyetwitch

That's an awesome result!

Vid of his car's 327 rwhp run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx5QQ6V7hMM

and my car's 281 rwhp run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve6Bxz1mpuw

That's an awesome result!

Totally...

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/juanhp.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/juantorque.jpg

Nice - really really nice.

Guess its time to get off your sas and change this

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=132628&highlight=dyno

Me? That isn't my thread.

need to post the dyno jet files, or start converting the x axis to rpm like everyone else does.

Me? That isn't my thread.

Wasnt talkin about you. Thread jack, youve been around the block and had a chance to dive ALOT. If you were gona go free diving were would you go to kill a BIG 100 + pound fish??

Not talking hammer head in Pearl either.

Free Diving... for something that big; here is my list.

1 - Ryuku Islands; Okinawa etc. I have seen Volkswagon sized grouper down past 100 FSW
2 - Kwajalien; Marshall Islands
3 - Palau
4 - Hawaii; can be done; but kind of rare here.

Allof these spots assume the right gun and a 3+ minute breath hold.

Working on the breathholds, 1.5 sofar, had 3 min. in the day. Got the equipment, 6.5 ft omar with real and a big knife when it gets close. Got big boat bumper to let him drag around also.

Sold

http://picasaweb.google.com/timschimpf/HighlightsFromPalau#5145462488814487122

very nice pulls guys...
I hhad a little problem today going to my parents house for a funeral... So I come around a bend of the highway Im on, knowing where the cops would sit if there were any and hoping traffice was all clear, and both of those wishes were granted, so I decide to run it,,, built from about 73mph and eased into it in fifth gear,,, so the mphs start to climb and shes pulling real smooth everythin looks and sounds as expected, then,,,, ka-blamo hit 119mph and something went,,, real loud noise, and my boost gauge fucking pegged at 15lbs, with all the warning lights(of the gauge that is, no CELS),,, totally scared the shit out of me, swalled my heart in my throat and eased off immediately...
Have no idea what happened, and spent the rest of the ride out of boost.... After the funeral I started to test boost and finally built enough courage to ease into the 6-7lb range,,, nothing sounded outta wack or felt no sign of a problem ,,, anyone want to take a stab at it...
Ohh and here are two screen shot from the ride,,, first image hit 332g/s(real strong second gear pull) and the second is from the high speed incident....
Please,,, if anyone has any insight to what may have happened please suggest something....

Oh boy:)
New plugs gaped at 45 will give you another 10hp/
still running the same nozzles(w/m)?
like THAT TQ CURVE!!
Love that engine tq damper
OD

sounds like a big fart. so many things it could have been
you were in the danger zone --where the intake is opening valves etc--do you have the w/m system going--cant remember?
glad you /car are ok.
OD

The slower the acceleration the less air the engine excepts.

You wanna try explaining that one? (I presume you meant "accepts".)
The slower the rate of engine acceleration, the more air it will ingest.
That is one of the reasons motors make their most power in higher gears.

Guess its time to get off your sas and change this

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=132628&highlight=dyno

That thread is for base kit results. It is intended to show "out-of-the-box" results, not optimized examples.
Otherwise, the comparo would be worthless (and quickly get out of control). Water/meth and smaller pulleys exempt the results.
Can you imagine the mayhem that would result if I posted one of the maxed-out dynos from the MM system?

, then,,,, ka-blamo hit 119mph and something went,,, real loud noise, and my boost gauge fucking pegged at 15lbs, with all the warning lights(of the gauge that is, no CELS),,,the second is from the high speed incident


Were you spraying W/M and, if so, what are your mix ratios?
Your load was fairly low (~130%) for such a rich AF, too.
You need to have your 5/6 fuel table tuned.

/threadjack
Not talking hammer head in Pearl either.
Pearl is the Tiger's breeding ground mostly. Plus you'll get arrested if caught in those waters :) Hammers are in Kaneohe Bay.

If you were gona go free diving were would you go to kill a BIG 100 + pound fish??

4 - Hawaii; can be done; but kind of rare here.

Allof these spots assume the right gun and a 3+ minute breath hold.

I've seen some big Ulua(i think ulua is grouper?) on the west coast of Oahu when i used to skin dive a lot. couple miles north of the power plant at Tracks beach park. I've seen the HI Skin Diver guys out there a time or two, that should mean something. Also if you do have the balls to get into deeper waters in K-bay, there are a lot of BIG fish in there(so the old locals told me).

If you ever do get to the islands and serisouly want to fish, get in touch. Couple of locals i worked with out there grew up diving on the north shore of oahu, and a bit on kaui/maui. They know ALL the spots.

Can you imagine the mayhem that would result if I posted one of the maxed-out dynos from the MM system?
.

yes - it would be like a panic scene from a hollywood spoof movie ....

yes - it would be like a panic scene from a hollywood spoof movie ....

http://www.benkepple.com/Images/riot.jpg

i was thinking of the one where a naked woman with large boobies jumps up and its jelly on a plate time .

But yeah

haha, the airplane panic scenes were alwys classic. Mind you the forum flameathonss here can sometimes require the "face slapping,'calm down!'" airplane scenes as well.

So, we are told "Post results and it will be changed".
When the results are posted, these are called "maxed out" despite the fact that all S/C components are from Pettit Racing. Cam is just very conservative with customer's engines.

On another note:
"Can you imagine the mayhem that would result if I posted one of the maxed-out dynos from the MM system?"

Are you claiming you are not charting maxed out turbos?:dunno:
I wonder if any other dyno results on that page are low balled? :nono:
You are currently making a baseless claim that the results on your chart are not a "maxed out turbo"; show us some "maxed out" DynoJet dyno sheets proving what YOU are claiming or we will have to consider the chart irrelevant.

very nice pulls guys...
I had a little problem today going to my parents house for a funeral... So I come around a bend of the highway I'm on, knowing where the cops would sit if there were any and hoping traffic was all clear, and both of those wishes were granted, so I decide to run it,,, built from about 73mph and eased into it in fifth gear,,, so the mph start to climb and she's pulling real smooth everything looks and sounds as expected, then,,,, ka-blamo hit 119mph and something went,,, real loud noise, and my boost gauge fucking pegged at 15lbs, with all the warning lights(of the gauge that is, no CELS),,, totally scared the shit out of me, swallowed my heart in my throat and eased off immediately...

Maybe the extra two ports did not open, or opened incorrectly? (or suddenly closed)
:banghead:
If you have a methanol kit, check for a possible siphon dumping too much water/meth in before the S/C. (water takes space, and practically doesn't compress)

Is your boost gauge digital or the old school vacuum line? (alternator issue if digital gauge?)

So, we are told "Post results and it will be changed".
When the results are posted, these are called "maxed out" despite the fact that all S/C components are from Pettit Racing. Cam is just very conservative with customer's engines.

Are you claiming you are not charting maxed out turbos?:dunno:

You are currently making a baseless claim that the results on your chart are not a "maxed out turbo"; show us some "maxed out" DynoJet dyno sheets proving what YOU are claiming or we will have to consider the chart irrelevant.

Rote, I'll try and address your questions since I think the thread in question is very important to anyone looking to purchase an FI upgrade to the RX8.

It's important to understand the difference between dyno numbers produced by the kit "as is" from the manufacturer and dyno numbers produced by a kit plus other custom installed parts such as boost controllers, water/meth, gauges, etc. T

The idea is to show how a kit performs right out of the box. The dynographs listed in the comparison thread were provided from customers who installed the kit and had dyno numbers to display. I don't know what modifications in addition to the supercharger that Mars has on his car, but I image it's more than what came with the Pettit kit itself.

I won't play the "if you only knew what I knew" game with the MM/BHR Turbo kit but I will say that the dyno sheet listed for that turbo can easily be reproduced on any RX8 we install it in. Any power gains beyond that are due to custom installs by the customer.

The hope is to have a dyno chart showing power results should the kit in question be installed on any RX8 and produce the same results without any additional modification. Any power gains beyond what's listed should be considered a "plus" or "bonus" and not an expected result.

I'm sure that a "maxed out" comparison thread could be made but I'm positve the results would shock people and no doubt there would be a lot of bickering and claims the data provided was false.

I hope that addresses your concerns.

I wonder if any other dyno results on that page are low balled? :nono:
You are currently making a baseless claim that the results on your chart are not a "maxed out turbo"; show us some "maxed out" DynoJet dyno sheets proving what YOU are claiming or we will have to consider the chart irrelevant.

Jeff's 3071R is extremely conservative. It's like the SC guys running 4 psi of boost.

What might make things interesting is if someone takes control of a "max dyno charts" thread and pulls the max gains we've seen for each kit. No one said Jeff has a monopoly on creating charts.

I used to do it, but it's a PITA to keep up to date.

This could be a good thing, cause the current dyno on the GReddy turbo kit should be replaced with a more typical 7-9 psi run.

So, we are told "Post results and it will be changed".

When the results are posted, these are called "maxed out" despite the fact that all S/C components are from Pettit Racing. Cam is just very conservative with customer's engines.


Try reading a bit:


- The base cost for what the kit costs new and ready to run (this means with fuel management).
To make things somewhat fair, the price must be the lowest price the kit can be bought for new, and functional. This means fuel management must be included in the price tag. Extras like boost controller, gauges, sensors, etc. are all custom for your install, as is install cost.



On another note:
"Can you imagine the mayhem that would result if I posted one of the maxed-out dynos from the MM system?"
Are you claiming you are not charting maxed out turbos?
I wonder if any other dyno results on that page are low balled?

The chart in the Dyno Comparison for the MM upgrade is just that - the GReddy system plus the upgrade.
What I have taken that system to is way beyond what is posted.

I doubt anyone "low-balled" their chart. The MM chart shown was pretty well tuned to acheive that result. It just didn't inclued an optional equipment.

I don't know what modifications in addition to the supercharger that Mars has on his car, but I image it's more than what came with the Pettit kit itself.

Here is my 330 whp formula for the record:

1. Pettit Racing SC Kit with the 5 inch crank pulley (that is the only mod to the kit out of the box). The stock kit comes with a 4.5 inch crank pulley.
2. I’m using the stock ECU flash that came with the kit (it can be improved but I like to see 11.6~11.8 AF ratios at max whp rather than lean it and risk catastrophic detonation). Sorry, my personal choice and anything just past 300 whp is fine for me.
3. 440cc (blue) injectors for secondary instead of the 380cc (yellow) injectors with the stock OEM fuel pump.
4. ExoticSpeed header, Racing Beat Race Pipe and Racing Beat Exhaust.
5. Racing Beat Aluminum Light Flywheel with Exedy Stage 1 clutch.
6. Snow Performance water methanol system pumping 50/50 VP Racing M-5 methanol (100m/l before the blower and 60m/l after the intercooler).
7. MSDs LS2 8247 Multiple Spark ignition coils, MSD Super Conductor ignition wires and NGKs Racing 10.5 leading 11.5 trailing gapped at .035 Yes, you cap gap these plugs but not the OEM RX8. The ground electrode on the NGK Racing plugs are imbedded/welded into the plug body and not tacked welded on top like the ones on the OEM RX8 plugs.

The best part is that my car can sit in my garage for weeks and all I have to do is get in, start the engine, let it warm up and drive (have fun with it). No worries, no fuzz, spank some ricers along the way and best of all excellent customer support from Pettit Racing the owner himself practically any time of the week. :eyetwitch

Mars -
Do you actually have the blues in the secondary position?
You do know why they need to be in the P2 position, right?

11.8:1 AFR is perfectly fine. There is a little more power to be had at 12.3:1 (especially with the W/M where the sky is the limit), but not a ton.
The car will drive better with 12.x:1 off of the torque peak at WOT.

Mars -
Do you actually have the blues in the secondary position?

Yes, both ends (left/right) of the fuel rail.

You do know why they need to be in the P2 position, right?

Yes

11.8:1 AFR is perfectly fine. There is a little more power to be had at 12.3:1 (especially with the W/M where the sky is the limit), but not a ton.
The car will drive better with 12.x:1 off of the torque peak at WOT.

:eyetwitch

Mars -
Do you actually have the blues in the secondary position?
You do know why they need to be in the P2 position, right?

11.8:1 AFR is perfectly fine. There is a little more power to be had at 12.3:1 (especially with the W/M where the sky is the limit), but not a ton.
The car will drive better with 12.x:1 off of the torque peak at WOT.

Havent you been saying somthing different for years on the AF, I think you even started arguments about how 12 is to lean, I think you stated 10.5 or 11 or somthing in that area. Tripping over your own feet arnt ya.

Were you spraying W/M and, if so, what are your mix ratios?
Your load was fairly low (~130%) for such a rich AF, too.
You need to have your 5/6 fuel table tuned.

No W/M,,,
why would the load be much higher with the gradually acceleration?
agree about a more refined tune,,, getting the AP very soon and a reputable local tuning shop is acquiring the protuner software for the 8 this month so I will be able to work out all these hik-ups, hopefully,,,

Maybe the extra two ports did not open, or opened incorrectly? (or suddenly closed)
:banghead:
If you have a methanol kit, check for a possible siphon dumping too much water/meth in before the S/C. (water takes space, and practically
doesn't compress)

Is your boost gauge digital or the old school vacuum line? (alternator issue if digital gauge?)

Old school mechanical boost/vac gauge thats measuring off the LIM....

Would the rear tires coming off the ground lead to soething like this,,, I drove over a bridge divider, may have broken loose for a second.
Also my RP supercat is at the point of expected(reported) life expectancy I currently have 15K mles on it, will be swapping a new one in hopefully tomorrow thanks to Swoope:)

/threadjack

Pearl is the Tiger's breeding ground mostly. Plus you'll get arrested if caught in those waters :) Hammers are in Kaneohe Bay.




I've seen some big Ulua(i think ulua is grouper?) on the west coast of Oahu when i used to skin dive a lot. couple miles north of the power plant at Tracks beach park. I've seen the HI Skin Diver guys out there a time or two, that should mean something. Also if you do have the balls to get into deeper waters in K-bay, there are a lot of BIG fish in there(so the old locals told me).

If you ever do get to the islands and serisouly want to fish, get in touch. Couple of locals i worked with out there grew up diving on the north shore of oahu, and a bit on kaui/maui. They know ALL the spots.

Yeh, didnt get arrested when we were jumping from 5 storys up off the boat. Our 1st segt did confine us to the boat for the weekend though :banghead: kinda thought somthing was gona happen when I saw him standing on the lower deck on the way down. Gave us a chance to do some fishing, more baby bonnet heads then I ever saw, I think we cought 50 between all involved that evening. Then the next day the Seals were running there mini sub following a 8ft hammer head, no will to swim in the pearl again.

Also my RP supercat is at the point of expected(reported) life expectancy

Picture me saying this with a thick redneck accent: Well Bern, here is your problem! :eyetwitch

Also, be careful with swoope’s advice/parts cuz I went to my local AutoZone store looking for that wobbly tool he referenced to a while back and I almost got tossed out of the store. :rollingla

This could be a good thing, cause the current dyno on the GReddy turbo kit should be replaced with a more typical 7-9 psi run.

agree 100% on that - the Greddy chart is definately not an "out of the box" result - it is a maxed out result .

mars - you should start another thread with your dyno as the first post so this does not get lost over time . It is an impressive result - I can't understand why it has taken so long for someone to get there though ....

mars - you should start another thread with your dyno as the first post so this does not get lost over time . It is an impressive result -

He as well as others have already done this, in our own section mind you, until they were all shut down or locked becuase haters shitting in the threads...

Picture me saying this with a thick redneck accent: Well Bern, here is your problem! :eyetwitch

Also, be careful with swoope’s advice/parts cuz I went to my local AutoZone store looking for that wobbly tool he referenced to a while back and I almost got tossed out of the store. :rollingla

Should have recieved it yesterday, so I guess I'll get it tomorrow....

Sold

http://picasaweb.google.com/timschimpf/HighlightsFromPalau#5145462488814487122

Do jellyfish lake while there... swimming in a sea of fake boobies....

No jellyfish for me :Eyecrazy: I was floating around roosavelt roads, I probly spelled that wrong but anyway I swam into a shallow cove and notice this cool plant life, it looked like colie flower, turned out it was upside down jellyfish 2 foot off my wetsuit. :eek:

They don't sting you big girl! ;)

If they dont sting, cool but that kinda thing classifies in the group of turning around and looking eye to eye with a 850 pound manitee, you now it harmless but holy crap. Also in that classification would be

http://picasaweb.google.com/timschimpf/HighlightsFromPalau#5145453735671137090

Man VS beast and no fishing pole between you and it just 1 shot of your spear gun, the bigger the better.

Multiply that times 80 or so... and that would be Kwajalien...never seen so many sharks in my life.

If you guys keep talking about big smelly fish I’m gonna have to call the wife and have her serve me a nice seafood paella when I get back to the bedroom. :eyetwitch

If you guys keep talking about big smelly fish I’m gonna have to call the wife and have her serve me a nice seafood paella when I get back to the bedroom. :eyetwitch

:lol2:

Havent you been saying somthing different for years on the AF, I think you even started arguments about how 12 is to lean, I think you stated 10.5 or 11 or somthing in that area. Tripping over your own feet arnt ya.

Reading comprehension is not your thing is it? Apparently, spelling, grammar, punctuation and not breathing through your mouth are equally difficult.
Of course, I understand that you don't have any idea what you are talking about - let alone suggesting that you know what I am talking about.
But I'll offer you these for some bathroom reading (don't take your 15" VGA monitor in the bathroom with you!):

http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1556991&postcount=9
http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1558045&postcount=13
http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=2578744&postcount=17


etc...

In some scenarios, 12.3:1 is actually too lean, BTW.
But you have to understand a whole bunch of big words and and scary numbers to have a discussion with the adults about the subject and I wouldn't want to distract you from the quality time you spend with your navel.


Mars -
Do you actually have the blues in the secondary position?


Yes, both ends (left/right) of the fuel rail.

Uh, that is the secondary position.
The Primary 2 are the inside of that rail. They spray into the primary intake tracts. The injectors on the "ends" are the secondaries.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=150432

You do know why they need to be in the P2 position, right?

Yes

Apparently not.
If you put what are essentially your "auxiliary" injectors in the secondary intake tract, they are unavailable for the first 3800 RPM at a minimum.
On a supercharged car which, purportedly, will achieve full boost at any RPM, not having your main auxiliary fuel delivery available until nearly half-way through the RPM band would be a bad thing.

On a supercharged car which, purportedly, will achieve full boost at any RPM, not having your main auxiliary fuel delivery available until nearly half-way through the RPM band would be a bad thing.

Main auxiliaries... God bless us!

Actually, I beg to differ with part of that argument though. If the "fuel system" is adequate at 100% load at full RPM, then in theory it would be OK at 200% load at 1/2 RPM, within reason. But yes, the second 1/2 of the RPM band would be problematic though!

Cheers,
Hymee.

Of course, I understand that you don't have any idea what you are talking about -
let alone suggesting that you know what I am talking about.
But I'll offer you these for some bathroom reading (don't take your 15" VGA monitor in the bathroom with you!):


So THAT'S what I have been doing wrong this whole time. I even set up a table with an extension cord and everything! :lol:

Uh, that is the secondary position.
The Primary 2 are the inside of that rail. They spray into the primary intake tracts. The injectors on the "ends" are the secondaries.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=150432

Apparently not.
If you put what are essentially your "auxiliary" injectors in the secondary intake tract, they are unavailable for the first 3800 RPM at a minimum.
On a supercharged car which, purportedly, will achieve full boost at any RPM, not having your main auxiliary fuel delivery available until nearly half-way through the RPM band would be a bad thing.

Negative Ghost Rider. I placed the 440 injectors in the right position. I suggest you figure out why. I placed them at the ends of the fuel rail not because I know any better but because I get most of my advice from people that will not dare to chime in this circus style forum. People that have nothing to prove because their reputation and knowledge goes without saying. Basically, very humble, willing to help and most of all non-ego mongers wanna be like you. Also, before anyone out there (fanboyz) start flinging arrows, this is not about SC vs Turbo crap. In fact, I will be replacing my current R100 bridge ported 13B engine to a twin turbo 13B engine in the near future.

Jeff, the bottom line is that I have nothing to prove on this forum but to show people what works and what doesn’t by using and abusing my car while sharing facts (without blowing my engine). I don’t depend or need this forum to make a living. I’m already retired from one federal job and working on a second federal retirement. My real job is devoted to keep bad people from introducing explosives to commercial aircrafts, which is far more important than playing around with a car.

May I suggest bringing a second extension cord and join moon with his bathroom reading. Although be aware that moon likes to talk about big smelly fish. :eyetwitch

Negative Ghost Rider. I placed the 440 injectors in the right position. I suggest you figure out why. I placed them at the ends of the fuel rail not because I know any better but because I get most of my advice from people that will not dare to chime in this circus style forum. People that have nothing to prove because their reputation and knowledge goes without saying. Basically, very humble, willing to help and most of all non-ego mongers wanna be like you.

If you (and quite a few other people on your side of the gymnasium) would be less concerned with my "ego" and more concerned with facts and genuinely understanding this stuff instead of just playing parrot, you would be less likely to fall victim to this sort of nonsense from your "awe-shucks" oracle.

Its your car - do what ever you like.
But don't pretend that you have great insight into any of the whys and hows of this stuff just because someone told you so.

Main auxiliaries... God bless us!



Lol. Yes. Semantic gaffe. Made me chuckle as well. I'll leave it for posterity.

I'll state it again in as simple terms as I can so that other readers who are NOT concerned with my motives or attitude will have the correct information:

There are three paths for air to follow into the 6-port motor.
The primary, the secondary and the auxiliary.
There are fuel injectors mounted in the primary (the P and P2) and the secondary (S).
The primary air path is always open.
The secondaries are behind butterflies that only open after 3800 RPM at a minimum.
So, fuel provided by those secondary injectors is not available to the motor until after this point.

didn't we all agree along time ago to call it the Tertiary? why do we keep falling back to auxiliary.

And Jeff that trashing of Moon was completely unnecessary. Dial it back please.

didn't we all agree along time ago to call it the Tertiary? why do we keep falling back to auxiliary.

Old habits.

And Jeff that trashing of Moon was completely unnecessary. Dial it back please.

Perpetually pumping this thread full of misinformation and outright lies is completely unnecessary.
These poor people have been misled enough already.

If you (and quite a few other people on your side of the gymnasium) would be less concerned with my "ego"

Jeff, don't be hate-ing! :eyetwitch

Enjoy the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx5QQ6V7hMM

Old habits.

Perpetually pumping this thread full of misinformation and outright lies is completely unnecessary.
These poor people have been misled enough already.

I totally agree with you. Mods, can you just ban him from the Pettit threads already? Things were so much nicer here while he was gone.

Jeff, don't be hate-ing! :eyetwitch

:lol: At least you used a hyphen.

Enjoy the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx5QQ6V7hMM

Uh, OK. Maybe you could chroma-key some scenery going by or something to jazz it up. You should at least tack on a pic of the dyno sheet or something for a money-shot.
Or, you could watch a car making more power (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VA54JB4_V8) actually going somewhere.

I totally agree with you. Mods, can you just ban him from the Pettit threads already? Things were so much nicer here while he was gone.

1) I've never been "gone" from this thread.
2) I guess things are nicer when you have your head in the sand.

I guess things are nicer when you have your head in the sand.

At least here, I know you're at least trying to speak from experience... but if there's truth to it, then I'd still be on your ignore list, right? :lol2:

What is this now, round 15?

There are three paths for air to follow into the 6-port motor.

No dufas, you forgot somthing, if its a 6 port you have 6 intake and 4 exhaust, on a 4 port you have 4 intake and 4 exhaust. You for got to multiply by 2 for 2 rotors 3 ports a rotor.

The primary, the secondary and the auxiliary.

are stages that feed each port times 2 again

There are fuel injectors mounted in the primary (the P and P2) and the secondary (S).

The primary air path is always open.

or you car wouldnt run!!!!!!!

The secondaries are behind butterflies that only open after 3800 RPM at a minimum.

Butterflies, look jeeniass, the only butterfly involved in the intake system is your throttle body, your talking about barrel and shutter valves, excuse the spelling.

So, fuel provided by those secondary injectors is not available to the motor until after this point.[/QUOTE] Or it would just puddle up at that point, it might make it into your combustion chamber but not as an atomized gas, are we done yet??????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????
How many ports can a single rotor renissis have???

Enjoy the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx5QQ6V7hMM[/QUOTE]


Hasnt blown a motor yet cause he plays buy the rules Jeff. Not Jeffs rules.

Hasnt blown a motor yet cause he plays buy the rules Jeff. Not Jeffs rules.

He hasn't blown a motor because he hasn't tried to push it as far or as hard.
And, if you could actually comprehend what you are reading, you would know the difference.

Really, do you honestly have a hard time connecting the dots?
Do you think that everybody doesn't understand the idea that each rotor has its on copy of the ports?
Yes, there are two primary ports, each with two injectors and two secondary ports, each with one injector. And a "tertiary" or "auxiliary" port for each rotor that contains no injectors.
I didn't think that needed to be spelled out.
Did you really believe that I was asserting as well that the motor only had three injectors total?

At least here, I know you're at least trying to speak from experience... but if there's truth to it, then I'd still be on your ignore list,

No, I took you off.
I was, apparently, missing too much fun stuff, so I removed you from the list (of which you were the only member) at the suggestion of several other people on the board.

Stilll havent answered my ?? how many ports will a single rotor rennissis have?????

Still waiting for a number???

Ok, sorry to tie up your head, 4,5,or 6.

Stilll havent answered my ?? how many ports will a single rotor rennissis have?????

WTF is a single rotor Renesis? Why would you even bother?

Who the f*ck cares?

We are not even talking about the motor. All we are discussing is the intake manifold. What are you going to do, saw one in half?

it's times like this I (kind of) wish I had a Pettit Supercharger so I could have a legitimate reason for posting but I don't, so I will just ask that someone pass the popcorn.

:fruit:

Jeff, how many fingers am I holding up? 3, 6 or 8?

also what color underwear is Moon going to wear on Thursday next week?

Jeff, you haven't answered me. The answer is either: Boxers, briefs, au natural, or granny panties.

Damn it man. Get with the program! We all know color=type.

I love this thread..I come here when I'm bored ;)

Always good info floating around under all the crap though :lol:

boy shorts

boy shorts

That's not a color. And you didn't specify if he put them on backwards, frontwards, or upside down.

WTF is a single rotor Renesis? Why would you even bother?

Who the f*ck cares?

We are not even talking about the motor. All we are discussing is the intake manifold. What are you going to do, saw one in half?

Well, you can mix and match auto/manual engine parts to get different outcomes on a single rotor motor and a single rotor wont push your car around very well, the reason I mentioned it is im pretty sure its gona make this fun to drive especialy with a blower


http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=2759529&posted=1#post2759529

Guess all the people watching care atleast.

Guess all the people watching care atleast.

Oh no, we don't. We're just here to be entertained.

*hands out popcorn*

Yeh, I find it amusing at times myself. It pisses away a few hours a day and gives me a chance to hold down the couch.

Yeh, I find it amusing at times myself. It pisses away a few hours a day and gives me a chance to hold down the couch.

OK. Now THAT'S the spirit! lol
Good stuff, Moon!

Well now................haven't been in this thread for months, and I suddenly realize why I don't come in here much anymore. Too difficult to find any good info between all the crap.

"G", saw you pulled like 281rwhp and Juan was right about 330rwhp.
Is the only difference the larger pulley and injectors he's running.

Jeff--seriously, what the hell are you doing?
Remember-- if someone comes to give you a gift and you do not receive it-- to whom does the gift belong?
olddragger

Jeff--seriously, what the hell are you doing?

You're kidding, right? Do you read what gets said in here, or just have a knee-jerk reaction to how its said?

Remember-- if someone comes to give you a gift and you do not receive it-- to whom does the gift belong?

I have NO idea how that is a relevant parable in the context that you are suggesting it, but the gift always belongs to the recipient or it wasn't a gift.
Why do you think I even bother to help you people?

For the most part, this thread is rife with ignorance and ingratitude.
The level to which folks here will drop to belittle the messenger to diminish the message is simply impossible to believe.

I have nothing to gain here. None of the participants in this thread are gonna buy anything I'm selling - literally or figuratively.
If anyone here really believes I contribute here to bolster my ego, you need only look how I'm treated here to dispel that misconception.
Even the few here that have directly benefited from the things I've contributed are required to treat me as a pariah as to not lose their cool-dude status in this tiny, tiny clique.

So, sit there and contemplate to whom this gift does belong and why its given.

As Jeremy Clarkson would say...

"Anyhow..."

"And on that bombshell, GOOD NIGHT!"

"G", saw you pulled like 281rwhp and Juan was right about 330rwhp.
Is the only difference the larger pulley and injectors he's running.

Juan also has headers, but most of that power increase was from the 5" pulley and the bigger injectors.

Juan also has headers, but most of that power increase was from the 5" pulley and the bigger injectors.

And don’t forget to mention that I spent the previous night at a Holiday Inn Express. :eyetwitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx5QQ6V7hMM

and it seems that help could be offered without personnel attacks IF that person who is offering help really wants people to listen to what they have to say.
I always like to remember that there usually is more than one way of doing things and "best" is relative.
Learning to dicuss something without insults/aggressive remarks is the only way any"teacher" will get a point across and remember the teacher is not above learning themselves. If they think they are then they are already antiquated. (yes I know I dont spell everything correctly).
Jeff if you didnt understand the relavance of my para then you need to think about it some more.
Enough, I am done.
olddragger

Its interesting to me that the perception here is that:

1) I am the one starting the insults and personal attacks; and
2) That the only people I am trying to help are the nimrods that are so vocal in this thread.

Remember - for every big-mouthed, cretinous fanbois here, there are (and will be) two that are out there absorbing this stuff and doing their own thinking.

I think the idea that I am the one starting these exchanges stems from the fact that I am so superior at it that the original post is eclipsed. :lol:
But I suggest that you look at any of my most "offensive" posts, back up a few posts and see who and what actually started it.
Ultimately, I love this sort of stuff because its funny.

I think the idea that I am the one starting these exchanges stems from the fact that I am so superior at it that the original post is eclipsed. :lol:
.

this is true - having been the target for your sarcasim in the past made me realise I just need to chill out and concentrate on the discussion at hand . I realised this is how you disarm your opponent .
Some of the guys in this thread need to realise this as well ....

Yes!

You know, I think the problem is that none of the folks in this thread have ever been the guest of honor at a good, old fashioned, New York-style roast.

Yes!

You know, I think the problem is that none of the folks in this thread have ever been the guest of honor at a good, old fashioned, New York-style roast.

So what would one of those be in terms that make sense to me?

Cheers,
Hymee.

So what would one of those be in terms that make sense to me?

Cheers,
Hymee.

A NY style roast is when a bunch of people get together to celebrate someone else's life or career by poking fun at them. The problem with his analogy is that the people doing the roasting are liked and respected by the roastee, and the roastee gets to roast back in the end without the roasters crying like little girls and putting him on their ignore list.

It's pretty arrogant to think that we would care to put up with a bunch of BS to get a !@#$ing breadcrumb of opinionated information from someone that we can get from someone else sans BS.

Anyway, here's what is important. We're making even more power safely with our supercharger setup:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/juanhp.jpg

Anyway, here's what is important. We're making even more power safely with our supercharger setup:

Also, don’t forget to add over 10,000 miles since self-install of the kit, countless autocross events, several sustained 130+ mph sprints and on the original engine. :eyetwitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx5QQ6V7hMM

Also, don’t forget to add over 10,000 miles since self-install of the kit, countless autocross events, several sustained 130+ mph sprints and on the original engine. :eyetwitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx5QQ6V7hMM

:lol2:

I have ~16,400 supercharged miles, a dozen or so autocross events, and a few dragrace events, but I've only had a few sustained 120+mph sprints :eyetwitch

Also still on the original engine, still running as strong as ever, and it still brings a smile to my face every time I turn the key or mash the accelerator. Once I get the pulley and those injectors I'm going to need a muscle relaxant for my face.

The continuance is noted by all who read.

Not really Ray. However, allow me to savior my personal achievement. Sorry it doesn’t set too well with the rest of the peanut gallery. :eyetwitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx5QQ6V7hMM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk99SuPrCp8&feature=related

Or, you could watch a car making more power (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VA54JB4_V8) actually going somewhere.


I will warn you guys that we didn't include any ghey music or effects in our videos, so viewers beware:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjr_1TvvSoU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVs2YnppnKg&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K-xzxDpNb8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbID0DXLVJg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iU3LCgGV4o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6oy9s1BZcc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4B4i1CGKNA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9hgnT4A2W0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCV-60Zzs6I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8PFQZGn71M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEubwwsXhmE

Also dont forget to include this, LOL.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/Pages1and2.jpg

and dont forget i have --so far over 500 hundred miles on the track (more to come)with engine temps no hotter than 180-190F, and 10 mpg while doing it.(love the tq)
OD

OD: did you get your temps back up? I remember for a while they were too low.

yea--did--i reinstalled the oem thermostat and just ran the secondary radiator--warms up great now-- even on 27F mornings! So far so good,

Jeff--I would just like to point out that most of the content of my posts did not mention any specific name--it is generic in design.
Backing up a few posts I can see some of what you said.

I got to stop being so damn serious. Frigging old brain. Time to suck fish oil
OD

Mmmm. Fish oil.

Most likely the route I'm going to take next year.

(not the fish oil, I already get enough of that)

A NY style roast is when a bunch of people get together to celebrate someone else's life or career by poking fun at them. The problem with his analogy is that the people doing the roasting are liked and respected by the roastee, and the roastee gets to roast back in the end without the roasters crying like little girls and putting him on their ignore list.

It's pretty arrogant to think that we would care to put up with a bunch of BS to get a !@#$ing breadcrumb of opinionated information from someone that we can get from someone else sans BS.

Anyway, here's what is important. We're making even more power safely with our supercharger setup:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/juanhp.jpg

Amen... stoked about this result!

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/juanhp.jpg

hey guys - check out this dyno !!!!!

hey guys - check out this dyno !!!!!

lol :spank:

lol :spank:

Wait, wait, wait…don’t forget the video that comes along with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx5QQ6V7hMM

100% satisfaction guaranteed and a sour taste on wannabes. :eyetwitch

I will warn you guys that we didn't include any ghey music or effects in our videos,

You mean like this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVs2YnppnKg

or this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzwfWYI8LXg

I particularly like the check engine light.

This one is kinda fun, too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OISnUU3tp5w

You mean like this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVs2YnppnKg

or this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzwfWYI8LXg

I particularly like the check engine light.

This one is kinda fun, too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OISnUU3tp5w

Correct. Thanks for finding those. Prodigy and Guns N' Roses are both on my iPod. Chinese Democracy came out, and people have said that that will happen when hell freezes over, so maybe there's hope for you.

And yeah, all of us Pettit Owners had a check engine light until October of last year when they developed their own reflash solution. My car does not have one, and neither does the car that produced this dyno:

http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/juanhp.jpg
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/bastage_2005/juantorque.jpg

You mean like this one?

Is that the best you can do Jeff? :lol:

I highly recommend giving this people a call/visit.

http://www.counselingconsulting.org/anger-management.html

Or a little bit of Puerto Rican rotary know how.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqezMv8k-ME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1ZStKvjVTk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMudrPezvmQ

and also 4 cylinders too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYcFsZgRvf4 :eyetwitch

Hey; anyone heard about that 330 HP dyno?

Hey; anyone heard about that 330 HP dyno?

yeah, ain't it great? :D:

It will be even better when all of us have that kind of power.

Nothing beats having to buy all new hardware to change boost, only to find out that elevation throws it off, requiring you to swap pulleys to maintain a specified pressure.

I heard it was the best thing since... a boost controller.

I like my wastegate. 0.2 bar spring, so 2.9 psi no matter what elevation with load. Turn the knob, configurable to any pressure I want instantly. Worried about overboost? Set the overboost PSI so that over X pressure, open the wastegate to bypass.

boost controller is also $300.

Nothing beats having to buy all new hardware to change boost, only to find out that elevation throws it off, requiring you to swap pulleys to maintain a specified pressure.

Are you kidding me?

Here’s a coloring book. I’ll keep you busy while driving your slowpoke NA RX8 around town. :eyetwitch

Yeah, not kidding you. Even a base greddy kit makes more torque. Enjoy.

Enjoy.

I am. :lol: :eyetwitch

I am. :lol: :eyetwitch

My e-penis is bigger than yours...can you tell????

Nothing beats having to buy all new hardware to change boost, only to find out that elevation throws it off, requiring you to swap pulleys to maintain a specified pressure.

I heard it was the best thing since... a boost controller.


The pulley costs like a quarter of what a boost controller costs, and once we switch to this one, we won't want to switch again since we'd risk overspinning the blower.


I like my wastegate. 0.2 bar spring, so 2.9 psi no matter what elevation with load. Turn the knob, configurable to any pressure I want instantly. Worried about overboost? Set the overboost PSI so that over X pressure, open the wastegate to bypass.

boost controller is also $300.

Considering that the mean elevation here in Florida (where we both live) is like 100 ft above sea level, why should we care? Are you planning on moving to Colorado or something?

By the looks of your sig and your posts you'd almost think that your car's engine never died and you're still turboed.

My e-penis is bigger than yours...can you tell????

Absolutely, you D-man. :worship:

By the looks of your sig and your posts you'd almost think that your car's engine never died and you're still turboed.

:lol: this thread delivers!

time to get comfortable - sit back and watch the show

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s255/brettus_rx8/sofa.jpg

Is it too much to ask to let this guy enjoy his accomplishment without a bunch of people coming here and trying to rain on his parade? :)

Yes, this is the internet. Of course that is too much to ask. Duh.

Also makes it hard for people trying to consider their options to siff through so much fickle bullshit to get thoughts from OWNERS when threads turn into ones like this. Maybe I'll just start talking directly with S/C owners instead of trying to get information in a thread named for it's owners.... yep..

Yes, this is the internet. Of course that is too much to ask. Duh.

:lol:

Yeah, I guess you're right :)

fish oil tastes like crap--may have to add catsup.
never mind the hp--talk about that tq curve----errrrr what curve lol!
makes the car very predickable.

OK --may have found part of the fuel starvation fix quest(check thread for full explanations)
when you compress our fuel pump unit(like you do on the install) there is a overhang ledge in the front part(where little arrow is) over the can assemble itself. The flat side of the can .I think it is reasonable to say that that ledge will impede fuel overflowing into the can during accelleration/certain turns etc. there really isnt much space inbetween the top of the assembly and the can itself and the inner part of the assembly does not leave much room for fuel to overflow (as in full tank) into the can itself --at least the front part. You cant get rid of this ledge/overhang. SO i notched the can--in the front--between the two little plastic bracket hanger things(we dont use). This should open up the can so fuel can get in more easily when the tank is at full to 3/4.
This is only part of my theory addressing this problem.
External fuel filter placement is being formulated. I was able to remove the oem filter from its house leaving the regulator/venturi line intact. wasnt easy.
back to the show!!
OD