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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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Need SCCA Solo classification help

I'm thinking about getting into SCCA Solo. I did it 2 times a couple years ago but that was when my car was OEM. I have a few mods now and after looking over the classifications, I just can't figure out what I should be in. With my mods, I don't think I can really compete so I'll just do it for the fun of it and see just what I can do. Guess I could take off some of the mods but I've really grown to like them. I have been tracking in HPDE but after driving on track with HPDE 3 & 4, I've decided I just don't have the money to invest into roll cages, hans devices and seats.

Any advice would be MUCH appreciated.

Here's my list of mods: RX-8 GT 6 speed

RB Intake with cold air duct
RB Catback
RB Sway Bar (Front)
Tein Flex Coilovers
Mazdaspeed Front Strut Bar
Hawk HP Plus brake pads
Track Tires: Toyo RA1's, 17"

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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Stu?
Those mods with RA1s and you are in BSP. Run street tires, 140 treadwear or higher, and you are in STU.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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Will the 17" wheels be better or should I stick with 18's?

Will a supercat effect the ranking?

Looks like STU is pretty well owned by Subaru.

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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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Well just starting off..unless you have natural or some God given talent your goin to get owned by all the GOOD drivers irregardless...Start with this

http://neoklascca.org/forms/2007SoloRules.pdf

Only mod you should be concerned with right now is "You" the driver...

I would milk novice class my first season and then move on to your respective class

And if your going to change anything next just let it be your tires IMO...If you decide to stick it out in STU pick out a good set of decent street tires e.g...Re-01r, Advan neovas, rt 615, direzza sport z1, and so on & so forth. If BSP then some R comps...v710s

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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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Looks like STU is pretty well owned by Subaru.
And BSP is pretty well owned by the Evo!

Oh, my prediction is that STU will be won by an Evo this year...
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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Something just doesn't seem right. There's no way to compete by the rules. Wish there was another class the 8 could at least have a chance if the drivers were comparable.
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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The 8 is real competitive in BS(Ullloose) and talk to Team about STU. I think a skilled driver with an 8 classified as SM could be pretty damn dominant...

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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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BSP, I had a similar setup till I gave up halfway through the season and I just sold my 17X9.5 wheels and RA1's. I do like the 17's, cheaper tire selection and better gearing. I ran 255/40/17. IMO the car is only nationally competitive in BS.
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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Thanks for everyones input.

CosmosMpower, what do I have to do to get my car to BS? Don't know that I'm overly concerned about going to Nationals at this stage.
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverEIGHT
Thanks for everyones input.

CosmosMpower, what do I have to do to get my car to BS? Don't know that I'm overly concerned about going to Nationals at this stage.
lose the coilovers, strut bar and intake. put your stock strut tower bar back on...go back to stock wheel size...
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GlenAnderson
lose the coilovers, strut bar and intake. put your stock strut tower bar back on...go back to stock wheel size...
If you want to run BS you would need to change:

RB Intake with cold air duct
RB Catback
RB Sway Bar (Front)
Tein Flex Coilovers
Mazdaspeed Front Strut Bar

Hawk HP Plus brake pads
Track Tires: Toyo RA1's, 17"

OE intake with a drop in filter is ok. Can have up to double adjustable shocks, stock perch height, with stock springs. Stock front strut bar. Stock size wheels, any tire DOT tire that will fit them.
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE

OE intake with a drop in filter is ok. Can have up to double adjustable shocks, stock perch height, with stock springs. Stock front strut bar. Stock size wheels, any tire DOT tire that will fit them.
Since were on the subject...What is the suggested R comp width to run on the stockies?
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Derex'8
Since were on the subject...What is the suggested R comp width to run on the stockies?
245/35.
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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oh okay just checking because I thought I heard of ppl getting 285s on their
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Derex'8
oh okay just checking because I thought I heard of ppl getting 285s on their
Yeah, it's been tried but so far hasn't proven to be any faster. It's also a PITA to get them mounted. 285 is really pushing it for an 8 inch rim.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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What class would I be in with these mods:

F/R Tanabe Sway Bars
Tein Springs
Mazdaspeed Brake Pads
18x8.5(F) & 18x9.5(R) Work XT-7 Wheels
235/40R18(F) & 265/35R18(R) Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 Tires(180 threadwear)
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:33 PM
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Having actually driven on them, IMO the 285 V710s are better than 245 V710s for BS. No typical tire shop can get them mounted though. I only know of two places in the US with the skill/technique to get the beads seated on an 8" wheel. 285 Hoosiers go fairly easy in comparison, but again IMO are not any better than a 245 V710.

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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverEIGHT
Something just doesn't seem right. There's no way to compete by the rules. Wish there was another class the 8 could at least have a chance if the drivers were comparable.
Its been said a million times, but in case you missed it... A good driver could probably beat 80% (or maybe even 90%) of his competitors at a local event in a completely underprepared car for the class like yours. Getting seat time behind the wheel is way way more important than worrying about your mods... Just drive.

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STU

Having actually driven on them, IMO the 285 V710s are better than 245 V710s for BS. No typical tire shop can get them mounted though. I only know of two places in the US with the skill/technique to get the beads seated on an 8" wheel. 285 Hoosiers go fairly easy in comparison, but again IMO are not any better than a 245 V710.
I don't think its any secret, but I've heard that the trick to mounting 285 V710s is to "loosen" it by mounting it on a wide wheel, unmounting it, then mounting it on the narrow 8" BS wheel. And I would love to see some more subjective data either for or against 285s so I can decide what tire to get for next season.
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