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MazdaSalesMario 10-08-2003, 02:45 PM I'll tell you guys what....... this is a awsome car and it is FAST and it is reliable and 90% percent of my customers love their new RX_8s! What is the problem with you guys? You seem to dog the car alot and bitch about pricing and haggle over stupid stuff like when you're gonna get you're lousy 500 bucks!!?! I drive this car everyday and have spent alot of time with it, not to mention other spectacular cars(i.e. gti 20th anv., WRX, MB SL55 and all AMG series Mercedes, M5, M3, RX7 3rd gen., 911 T, you get the point) everything under the sun and this car is exceptional for 31,000 well equipped!!!)
o_town_racer 10-08-2003, 02:51 PM Seems like you haven't bothered to read any of the posts from those of us who love the car. Please don't group everyone on this forum into one mind-set over the RX-8. Also, since most of us have already bought the car, I wouldn't hold my breath for sales leads.
Quick_lude 10-08-2003, 02:53 PM hahahahaha....
Did someone create this user name as a joke? :p
Sure some complaints might be trivial to you.. but there are a few legitimate gripes here.. May I suggest you read some of the threads in detail, maybe then you'll have a better picture..
Great way to entice potential buyers into your dealship, insult them first! http://webhome.idirect.com/~jsmialek/Smileys/youarestupid.gif :D
mikeb 10-08-2003, 03:10 PM do you feel better now
TomsterRX8 10-08-2003, 03:11 PM OK Jarek................who's the babe who's picture you use under your handle? I think she wants me!
Welcome to the forum. I'm sure this thread will get closed by a moderator, but anyhow......
Read up on a few more of the threads and try to separate the potential buyers, from the owners and trolls. Check out the polls from the owners who kept vs those who turned it in. I think you'll find a majority of us who purchased kept it and are satisfied.
Quick_lude 10-08-2003, 03:41 PM Originally posted by TomsterRX8
OK Jarek................who's the babe who's picture you use under your handle? I think she wants me!
If I had a dollar for everytime I'm asked this question, I'd have the RX-8 in my garage today. :D
Erika Michelle Barre. Google and enjoy. http://webhome.idirect.com/~jsmialek/Smileys/wanker.gif :D
MazdaSalesMario 10-08-2003, 04:32 PM This is exactly what im talking about...... you guys all jump on people and critique people for what they say, such a negative vibe I feel in most of these threads.....like the poor guy who tried to sell his RX-8 with 800 miles on it, you guys all jumped on his back with "800 miles, thats not new" what a bunch of assholes you guys are sometimes! I understand that some of you like this car and thats great my comments weren't directed toward you obviously.
BTW- I don't need sales leads.... the car sells itself and plenty people are buying it!
klegg 10-08-2003, 04:42 PM Originally posted by MazdaSalesMario
This is exactly what im talking about...... you guys all jump on people and critique people for what they say, such a negative vibe I feel in most of these threads.....like the poor guy who tried to sell his RX-8 with 800 miles on it, you guys all jumped on his back with "800 miles, thats not new" what a bunch of assholes you guys are sometimes! I understand that some of you like this car and thats great my comments weren't directed toward you obviously.
BTW- I don't need sales leads.... the car sells itself and plenty people are buying it!
This has got to be a joke...........please read some of the posts here....hell, some of us are being stalked due to our rotery love....
rxeightr 10-08-2003, 04:44 PM BTW- I don't need sales leads.... the car sells itself and plenty people are buying it!
Enjoy the very cold winter you are getting ready to experience in Minnesota. Hope you thaw out sooner rather than later (in all respects).
MSMAMBA 10-08-2003, 04:51 PM Originally posted by klegg
This has got to be a joke...........please read some of the posts here....hell, some of us are being stalked due to our rotery love....
Must be a joke... definitely a joke...
Joke... joke... joke...
Can someone close this thread? A salesman calling people a$$holes. It must some sort of new sales techniques.
klegg 10-08-2003, 04:56 PM This guys name is really "IKE" and he sells subarus......
MazdaSalesMario 10-08-2003, 05:08 PM there you guys go again...... you are all too cool for me i guess......... its a shame because i would of loved to share some info with you guys about the new RX-8 but you guys probably know everything right?
working at a mazda dealer and for mazda wouldn't give me any insider info on this car would it? naaahhh
Totoro 10-08-2003, 05:13 PM Originally posted by MazdaSalesMario
there you guys go again...... you are all too cool for me i guess......... its a shame because i would of loved to share some info with you guys about the new RX-8 but you guys probably know everything right?
working at a mazda dealer and for mazda wouldn't give me any insider info on this car would it? naaahhh Here, let me give you a cookie. :o
rxeightr 10-08-2003, 05:21 PM MSM,
Please feel free to reread your posts.
There have been 3 of them.
Do you like Baseball?
Right now you are 0-3, which means you struck out.
zoom44 10-08-2003, 05:44 PM ok mario i'll bite. besides the fact that you are disobeying the forum rules that you agreed to when you registered( specifically the one that says dealers are not allowed to advertise) you also decided to flame 80% of this forum's members. but i will put that aside for a moment and say welcome aboard. you'll find that there are many willing listeners and open minded people here. so please enlighten us with whatever information about our beloved rx-8 that you think we might not already know. and please spill the beans on this inside information that you have. it would be most appreciated. you mentioned people griping about not having the debit cards yet that have been promised to them in the agreement they were asked to sign. perhaps you could start by answering that simple question- when should we expect these debit cards?
Originally posted by MazdaSalesMario
I'll tell you guys what....... this is a awsome car and it is FAST and it is reliable and 90% percent of my customers love their new RX_8s! What is the problem with you guys? You seem to dog the car alot and bitch about pricing and haggle over stupid stuff like when you're gonna get you're lousy 500 bucks!!?! I drive this car everyday and have spent alot of time with it, not to mention other spectacular cars(i.e. gti 20th anv., WRX, MB SL55 and all AMG series Mercedes, M5, M3, RX7 3rd gen., 911 T, you get the point) everything under the sun and this car is exceptional for 31,000 well equipped!!!)
Haha, good ole Concours Motors, didn't test drive an RX-8 there but did drive a BMW when I was looking for a new car, whatever saleman I had was about the biggest moron I've come across. He even had the nerve to insult the car I was driving in the process by putting it down and pumping up the 330. In addition my best friend bought his Lexus from there and would have never bought the car from them based on the people he was dealing with, they just happened to have what he wanted and he couldn't find it elsewhere.
Concours seems to have this stuckup attitude beceause they are one of the few luxury car dealers in Milwaukee, however put them in most other cities and the way they do business would put them right out of business IMO. Maybe some people have had good experiences but I'm not one of them.
By the way if anyone is looking for an 8 in Milwaukee, Don Jacobs was great to me when I test drove the car, I can't think of anything bad to say other than they didn't know the seat had a height adjustment on it. They also never charged a markup on the car and seemed willing to deal, I didn't feel like someone was out to rip me off.
Ike
Ike
Klegg could you just for a minute put aside your infatuation with me and not mention me in a post. Remember, you're the stalker, not the one being stalked.
Senseny 10-08-2003, 06:06 PM Hey Mario, you are an asswipe. Most of the questions and issues here have been legit. Its nice to see that you have such unlimited resources that $500 is meaningless to you, but if you had been my salesperson and treated me like that, I would have gone to another dealership. Regardless of my high or low means. I love my 8 and haven't complained about it at all, it seems like the majority of people on this board aren't complaining (esp current owners as opposed to prospective owners and people who just like to troll around). So go back to your cave and take a real look around this site before throwing some shit at the wall and seeing if it sticks.
Just realized your name is Mario, how long have you been at Concours?
1 BAD TIB 10-08-2003, 06:19 PM Your a boob. This guy cant be a sells man. I bet he is not http://www.kettering.edu/~daws0344/pics/funny/NOELITE.JPG
Slice 10-08-2003, 06:31 PM This is now even worth a reply.....Oh wait! too late....
khoney 10-08-2003, 09:02 PM Originally posted by MazdaSalesMario
there you guys go again...... you are all too cool for me i guess......... its a shame because i would of loved to share some info with you guys about the new RX-8 but you guys probably know everything right?
working at a mazda dealer and for mazda wouldn't give me any insider info on this car would it? naaahhh
Damn right, MazdaSalesMario! If you're like any other dealer in the US, you're clueless! Don't worry, though. If you read this forum, we can give you some education. Let me start with this - a rotary engine has no cylinders... tell all your friends!
Originally posted by MazdaSalesMario
there you guys go again...... you are all too cool for me i guess......... its a shame because i would of loved to share some info with you guys about the new RX-8 but you guys probably know everything right?
working at a mazda dealer and for mazda wouldn't give me any insider info on this car would it? naaahhh
Well, I was trying to be nice in my first post, but now I see you're just an a-hole.
Do you actually think you're the first dealer on here? Do you?
You're not. The other guys have been here for a long time (way before Japan got their cars) and have been very helpful to all the members here as we needed the info on shipments, allocations, VIN numbers etc. Now you johnny-come-lately dealer show up and start running your mouth without the facts........ Nevermind, you sound EXACTLY like I would expect a dealer to sound like. Thank GOD my dealer was nothing like you.
8_wannabe 10-09-2003, 12:07 AM Originally posted by MazdaSalesMario
i would of loved to share some info with you guys about the new RX-8 but you guys probably know everything right?
working at a mazda dealer and for mazda wouldn't give me any insider info on this car would it?
Now I know this is a prank. A mazda salesman who claims to know something about his product? Yeah, right....
Squidward 10-09-2003, 03:00 AM Originally posted by 8_wannabe
Now I know this is a prank. A mazda salesman who claims to know something about his product? Yeah, right....
LOL.. you read my mind.. I kid you not EVERY Mazda dealership I went to, even the one I bought at, did not know much about the car at all.. some even went as far as give me false details about the car..
When it comes to sales people, all they care about is the sale, they don't even care to spare a minute to glance at their own brochures on the car.
Car sales people are a real clueless bunch.. Gifted in the art of BS'ing and educated in the school of hard knocks. I admit it's not exactly the easiest job, especially when you're not too smart to begin with...
KKMmaniac 10-09-2003, 06:59 AM Quoting rxeightr:
"Enjoy the very cold winter you are getting ready to experience in Minnesota. Hope you thaw out sooner rather than later (in all respects)."
Ummm... we Minnesotans may enjoy our cold winters, (ok, I know I don't!) But do those who live in Milwaukee, WISCONSIN enjoy cold Minnesota winters?
Sorry. Anyway, I haven't seen more than a couple RX8's driving around here.
LesPaul 10-09-2003, 07:14 AM This is why I visit the forum less and less these days.....
Red Devil 10-09-2003, 09:57 AM As a side question, Mario is a dealer, working for a dealership...If this is true - who writes his checks? MNAO or the local dealer? If it's the local dealer, then he is not an actual Mazda employee, so what inside information could he possibly have that has not already appeared on this board?
Car salesman are the most expendable link in the chain. Not because the job isn't important, but because it requires little to no educational background or prior experience.
Now I'm just ranting. Thank God for corporate partner discounts, 99% of the BS goes out the door with them, and the salesman is powerless and can only say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
rxeightr 10-09-2003, 10:09 AM Ummm... we Minnesotans may enjoy our cold winters, (ok, I know I don't!) But do those who live in Milwaukee, WISCONSIN enjoy cold Minnesota winters?
Well KKM, you got me there. I should have known better, since I was born in Ashland WI :o
Originally posted by rxeightr
Well KKM, you got me there. I should have known better, since I was born in Ashland WI :o
That's ok you're from Alabama. We'll just leave it at that :p
LesPaul 10-10-2003, 12:15 PM By the way, I'm a Mazda dealer too, yeah, that's the ticket, no, no, I'm swimsuit model, yeah, yeah, that's it, no I'm really the owner of ten, no twenty Lamborginis, yeah I got the pictures, I'll post 'em in a minute, no wait, they're really Ferraris, yeah fifty Ferraris.....
Originally posted by LesPaul
By the way, I'm a Mazda dealer too, yeah, that's the ticket, no, no, I'm swimsuit model, yeah, yeah, that's it, no I'm really the owner of ten, no twenty Lamborginis, yeah I got the pictures, I'll post 'em in a minute, no wait, they're really Ferraris, yeah fifty Ferraris.....
I don't believe you, what's your swimsuit model ID number?
Racer X-8 10-10-2003, 04:18 PM Hey guys, where did he go? He's showing 6 posts right now, yet only 3 in his thread here. We can't leave him running rampant thru our forum, can we?
Lets get him!!! :mad: :mad: :p
KKMmaniac 10-10-2003, 11:50 PM rxeightr:
On the other hand... I don't know my Alabama geography, so I really shouldn'ta said anything. (you know, if you can't say something nice, blah, blah, blah...)
Anyway, RE: MazdaSalesMario: Most of us love the RX8. Hell, there is nothing else like it. But it isn't gonna be the perfect car for everyone, and this forum gives us a good place to ask, or tell, what this car is all about, through genuine "real person" experiences. (we would hope everybody is real anyway, wouldn't you, MazdaSalesMario?)
I think a repeating loop of the "Zoom Zoom" song sung by William Shatner and played by the Residents for thirty-seven hours oughta set him straight.
Irish_in_a_RX8 10-11-2003, 12:26 AM MazdaMario huh...sounds like a nintendo game rip-off. I am sure this thread is just wasting valuable 16,000 dollar space and will be closed shortly...
dvarapala 10-11-2003, 01:14 AM Originally posted by MSMAMBA
A salesman calling people a$$holes. It must some sort of new sales techniques.
That's right - the technique is called "irony."
:D :D :D :D
mikeb 10-11-2003, 10:48 PM mazda mario
lol
MazdaSalesMario 11-21-2003, 11:35 AM In response to all the people out there who say that I know nothing about this car and all salesman are a bunch of bullshitters and etc., I am 20 years old and selling cars for a great dealership! I AM JUST ANOTHER ENTHUSIUST LIKE YOU...... I SLEEP AND BREATHE CARS NO JOKE! AND YES THIS IS A HARD JOB BECAUSE ALL OF THE STEREOTYPES YOU HAVE IN YOUR HEAD
IM NOT AN OLD VETERAN SALEMAN WHO TOOK YOU GUYS TO THE CLEANERS FOR FULL STICKER SO PLEASE HAVE SOME RESPECT MAN
Originally posted by MazdaSalesMario
In response to all the people out there who say that I know nothing about this car and all salesman are a bunch of bullshitters and etc., I am 20 years old and selling cars for a great dealership! I AM JUST ANOTHER ENTHUSIUST LIKE YOU...... I SLEEP AND BREATHE CARS NO JOKE! AND YES THIS IS A HARD JOB BECAUSE ALL OF THE STEREOTYPES YOU HAVE IN YOUR HEAD
IM NOT AN OLD VETERAN SALEMAN WHO TOOK YOU GUYS TO THE CLEANERS FOR FULL STICKER SO PLEASE HAVE SOME RESPECT MAN
Omicron 11-21-2003, 12:27 PM Mario, I don't know how long you have been reading this forum, but one thing should be clear by now. There are a lot of TROLLS that log on here JUST to bash the 8. They often pretend to own an 8, but the little things give them away.
Please don't lump the bulk of the participants on this board in with the trolls. The trolls do tend to bring the negative threads up to the top of the forums. If you skip down a ways, and don't bother to read every thread that exists to bash the 8 (they're pretty obvious) I think you'll see that there are MUCH more positive comments and discussions about the 8 than there is negative. Point being, don't let a few trolls make you think we all hate or are unhappy with the car, because most of us aren't.
And in the future, I might suggest that if you want to address the few people who are unhappy with the car, and not get everyone else's dander up, you don't start a thread to "ALL of you...." That's like a deliberate challenge to ALL of us that DO love the car, and it's insulting enough that many feel compelled to defend ourselves.
Racer X-8 11-21-2003, 02:31 PM Mario,
1) Why is Mazda taking twice as long to send out the $500 & free maint. cards as the time they gave us to make our decision. (Seems like the no-brainer process involved of sending them out should have taken a lot less time than the time involved in us researching and deciding whether or not to keep the car.)
2) What's the price of 16" wheels. I would like to buy a set for winter tires.
I'm asking Mario...please don't answer if you are not him...t'anks.
cruzdreamer 11-21-2003, 03:36 PM Take a lude Mario!!!:] Wow, relax. All of us who bought the RX 8 are enthusiasts who love this car. Take off the rose colored glasses...people are upset that their dream cars are having troubles. All cars have issues and the RX 8 does too!!! We need to hear the good and the bad to make things better and help those who are having problems. It's a fine automobile that needs some kinks worked out....nothing is perfect!!
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