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There are too many warm, human, honest women around for men to waste time on those with cold, practiced demeanors and nothing in their hearts. If a guy can't see that, then he gets what he deserves. IMO, humble though it may be...

well said.

I dont think there is anything wrong with a women who doesnt show much emotion. I think the men that have a problem with it are somewhat intimidated by it. besides most men are not open so why the hell should a woman be open and shit like that? Just because they can live without the mushy love doesnt mean there isnt anything in there heart, she just choses to not let emotions get the best of a situation. Sure emotions are a good thing and all but do they always have to be laid out on the table. I for one am a complete bitch when most guys come up to me at a bar. And lets face it boys...the whole cuddle thing is only good every once in a while.

and i hear you use cigarettes as weapons? lol

That read like equality to me. Sometimes you don't want a big deal relationship, and even if you are out looking around isn't the chase half the fun anyhow. If the girls wanna play the field and remain disconnected unless they really find some kind of special connection more power to em.

I love running into a woman who is satisfied with her life, is looking to screw around and figure things out later if there is a spark. I've gone out with a few and sweet jebus it makes things easier if the magic isn't there, do your business, have breakfast, peace out, it was fun! And you can usually get a little random hook up action out of it when they feel like it even if it isn't looking like a long term thing. I kinda like getting the occasional booty call from some girl I went out with a few times that doesn't want anything serious.

That is a drop what you are doing phone call.

That read like equality to me. Sometimes you don't want a big deal relationship, and even if you are out looking around isn't the chase half the fun anyhow. If the girls wanna play the field and remain disconnected unless they really find some kind of special connection more power to em. (snip!) That is a drop what you are doing phone call.

Maybe there's a generational or cultural difference here, but after my first few years of sexual activity, the loveless fling had lost all allure. I reached a point in my mid-twenties where I wanted something more, otherwise there wasn't enough attraction to make me want to turn the lights down. After a while that kind of relationship is just repetition. Life is too short to resort to sex just to alleviate boredom.

Today I feel the same. Were I not married, I'd still not be interested in non-serious "booty calls". I need the spark FIRST.

OK, this is where someone posts something like "you're not doing it right" or similar stupid comment. Give me some credit- I've been "around the block", there is nothing new under the sun.

To each, his own.

I dont think there is anything wrong with a women who doesnt show much emotion. I think the men that have a problem with it are somewhat intimidated by it. And lets face it boys...the whole cuddle thing is only good every once in a while.

I've never been intimidated by anyone of either gender. I'm not talking about cuddling or the smootchie-poo stuff B.U., what I don't appreciate is mind games. Women who manipulate others by tweeking their desires and emotions- or lack of emotional security. (Actually a lot of guys do this too- it's not the best approach for us, either.)

I know that's the way the game has been played for tens of thousands of years, but it just doesn't work on every guy. If a woman wants to be stonefaced, predatory, cold, non-committal, fine- there's lots of guys who will do anything she wants just to get some. She's got plenty to choose from, but she can't have me.

I went for the girl who shared her feelings. I made the right decision. :)

Whelp, I'm no whipper snapper, but I'm not exactly over the hill either, I'm in my mid 30's and right now things seem petty good. When I go out I don't go out with any expectations, just the initial attraction and to see where things go. If the lady I am dating just wants to fool around for a night and I don't feel like there is anyting going on worthy of follow up, that's just fine, still a succcessful venture. Better yet if I get the occasional call to drop by drink a couple glasses of wine and "fart" around. However, if we go out and nothing happens at all, that's fine too, nothing ventured nothing gained.

If there is some chemistry then I am open to a relationship but not starved for one. More and more I find the lack of desperation / neediness works for me. I made out like a bandit I think on my 8 treating the salesman like I treat the girls, totally disinterested and ready to walk away. If it works for the girls too, like I said, more power to em. People have to find their own way in life, either gender, if the magic isn't there, it isn't there, how you portray yourself at the outset has little to do with it I think ( that didn't come out the way I meant, of course it matters, but how you approach the game rather). There is initial attraction then after a little feeling out you know what the score is. I think guys have been playing these sorts of games for a long time too, the ladies do have a slight advantage in the desperation department sometimes though because some guys will really put themselves out there throwing away money and time on some cold hearted witch, I have to call that natural selection. Conversely, as women get a little older they fall prey to the same stuff, they get worried about security and the "old maid" perception and they really do put themselves out there more like men do in their 30's and 40's I am seeing, which really is nice, I feel like the playing field really si level, if not in my favor now.

It is soooo not about a female wanting just a random hook up or anything like that. It is simply like Ghadrack said not having the neediness or desperation. Its about a woman being able to just be herself and not have to deal with BS of dumbass guy (which at my age most of them are). It is just about being a strong independent person. Im sorry but it is the complete opposite of mind games. It is usually straight foward and honest. Which should make it easier for a guy to tell what that particular woman is looking for. So that right there cuts out half of the wondering of the males part. It is very possible to have a relationship with a strong woman and a happy one at that, but you have to be they type of guy she WANTS in her life, which in most cases is the alpha male.

Oh and I dont but cigs as weapons!! Haha. Apparently someones afro was just asking to be ashed in!!