View Full Version : Fun muddy times with a WRX


Grimace
11-10-2002, 10:05 AM
This is one reason why I'll never own a used WRX:
http://www.geniusinside.net/vids/wrxfun.wmv

Is anyone else considering a WRX over the RX-8?

BlueAdept
11-10-2002, 10:26 AM
OK, which friend of humanity decided that a .WMV file should have a mime type of "text/plain"....

Bloody MSIE lax standards are killing the internet again...

Connected to www.geniusinside.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD /vids/wrxfun.wmv HTTP/1.0
Host: www.geniusinside.net

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:22:18 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.20 Sun Cobalt (Unix) mod_ssl/2.8.4 OpenSSL/0.9.6b PHP/4.1.2 mod_auth_pam_external/0.1 FrontPage/4.0.4.3 mod_perl/1.25
Last-Modified: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 03:32:35 GMT
ETag: "197984-14cf150-3d83ff53"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 21819728
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/plain <-------- Find him and kill him.

Connection closed by foreign host.

sheylen
11-10-2002, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by Grimace
This is one reason why I'll never own a used WRX:
http://www.geniusinside.net/vids/wrxfun.wmv

Is anyone else considering a WRX over the RX-8?

Cannot find server:confused: :confused: :confused:

Grimace
11-10-2002, 11:01 AM
Odd, works for me each time.

Anyone want to host it? I can upload it (22 MB) and perhaps someone can convert it to a different format for Blue.

Its worth watching!

BlueAdept
11-10-2002, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Grimace
Odd, works for me each time.

Anyone want to host it? I can upload it (22 MB) and perhaps someone can convert it to a different format for Blue.

Its worth watching!

I can play WMV... even convert it into a less proprietary format like mpeg4 if people want... I was just commenting that the server is advertising the mime type as text/plain not video/x-msvideo or even application/octet-stream

This is because in Windows, the 3 letter file extention overrides the standards driven mime type... hence people don't care that their servers are brokem... don't get me started now! LOL.

Quick_lude
11-10-2002, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Grimace
Is anyone else considering a WRX over the RX-8?
Maybe.. but I don't like the 4 door look.. would prefer a coupe.

wakeech
11-10-2002, 02:32 PM
oh, that's why i can't read it (OSX...)
thanks for the heads up Blue...

Spining Ncnratr
11-10-2002, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Quick_lude

Maybe.. but I don't like the 4 door look.. would prefer a coupe.

Thank the stupid SUV's for that one. I'm also thinking over the 5 door 6 to as the S plan covers them.

PoLaK
11-10-2002, 06:01 PM
lol nice "ground tiller" wrx ain't anything special in my view other then the 0-60 the car don't have anything that appeals to me.... btw the allwheeldrive ain't great, friend was going 80 then a deer poped out on the road he swirved to aviod it wrx fliped over twice and landed in a creek he didn't have a scrach on him though.

Hercules
11-10-2002, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by PoLaK
lol nice "ground tiller" wrx ain't anything special in my view other then the 0-60 the car don't have anything that appeals to me.... btw the allwheeldrive ain't great, friend was going 80 then a deer poped out on the road he swirved to aviod it wrx fliped over twice and landed in a creek he didn't have a scrach on him though.
Sounds very suspect... I don't think it would have flipped unless there was a physical object causing him to do that.

BlueAdept
11-10-2002, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Hercules

Sounds very suspect... I don't think it would have flipped unless there was a physical object causing him to do that.

You don't realise until you are going sideways, exactly how fast 80+ Mph relaly is... at that speed, going sideways, any slight imperfection in the road surface that causes the car to bounce, the tyres to grip or dig in etc... will cause the bottom of the car to stop and the top to carry on going... thats how you roll a car!...

I suspect PoLaK's friend got off the road, into some dry dirt, and the tyres dug in going sideways and caused the car to roll. Not an ideal situation...

A friend of mine was driving a large (Rented) caravan in australia... The blurb from the company renting it out pointed out the huge bull bars and said that if a kangaroo or whatever jumped in front... HIT IT... since this would do way less damage than trying to avoid it.

Hercules
11-10-2002, 07:59 PM
Yes, but you just said the same thing as I did.. on a flat road, a car generally won't flip unless there's a crack in the road, slight incline/decline, etc...

It's a physcial thing that would cause the car to flip, not the car itself.. at 80mph believe me I know :)... I have done a 360 (on purpose mind you) going at 70-75 miles per hour.

That cause hell on the tires but you need to find a safe place to do it in :)

Grimace
11-10-2002, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by PoLaK
lol nice "ground tiller" wrx ain't anything special in my view other then the 0-60 the car don't have anything that appeals to me.... btw the allwheeldrive ain't great, friend was going 80 then a deer poped out on the road he swirved to aviod it wrx fliped over twice and landed in a creek he didn't have a scrach on him though.

It wouldn't matter if the car he was in had 20 wheel drive, you don't swerve at 80 mph and expect to stay upright unless you are on a skating rink. Get on the brakes hard, firm grip on the wheel, and hope for the best. The fact the his WRX flipped twice and your friend wasn't hurt speaks volumes for the car - the built-in safety cage worked beautifully it sounds like.
I'm a fan of the WRX and the Evo line of cars. Of course, I'm also a big rally fan. 4WD is appealing to me, since the winters here can be brutal, especially in my hometown by the lake where it is not uncommon to find 4-6" of snow on the road before they are plowed. A Scooby with 4 good snow tires is hard to beat. Other pluses are shart handling (some understeer at the limit), and the ability to pretend your Richard Burns winning the 2001 WRC championship. :D Body style isn't for everyone, which is where the RX-8 wins hands down. The practical side of me says "WRX", the passionate side of me screams "RX-8" (or S2000/MX-5 if its a really nice sunny day :) )

PoLaK
11-10-2002, 08:18 PM
im not lying about this...... i was in a gti behind his car we were going a lot slower tho..... it happened on a bend and the road was slick cuz of a light shower ..... when when he swrived he had to turn the wheel quickly back or he would have gone off the road i think thats wat threw the car off balance causing it to flip and yes there was a 30% decline roughly.

Hercules
11-10-2002, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by PoLaK
im not lying about this...... i was in a gti behind his car we were going a lot slower tho..... it happened on a bend and the road was slick cuz of a light shower ..... when when he swrived he had to turn the wheel quickly back or he would have gone off the road i think thats wat threw the car off balance causing it to flip and yes there was a 30% decline roughly. Yea that'll do it in most any car.

And people say SUV's are safe.. imagine that happening in an SUV!

PoLaK
11-10-2002, 08:30 PM
any1 have more info bout the magntic shocks in the new vett sounds intresting im curious about that concept.

Takumi
11-10-2002, 09:04 PM
I was considering the sti version but its gonan be hard to get one of those since u have to order it. they suposidly come out next year

PoLaK
11-10-2002, 09:11 PM
and costs 43k +

Takumi
11-10-2002, 09:27 PM
no way 43+

I heard 36k =[
Another possibiltly would be lan evo 8.
That stays more towards the evolution heritige unlike the wrx they are veering off from it

Sputnik
11-11-2002, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by PoLaK
any1 have more info bout the magntic shocks in the new vett sounds intresting im curious about that concept. A little off-topic, but they start of with a basic shock. Then, instead of the normal shock oil, they fill it with an oil mix that reacts to an electric charge (I don't know how they mix it). They then feed it with a variable electrical current. The stronger the current, the "thicker" the shock oil acts, resulting in a stiffer shock. So, you can electrically adjust the shock settings, or set up a computer to control them.

This will do little to help any kind of roll-over system, IMO. All that the best stability control systems can hope to do right now is keep someone who is "near the edge" from going over it sometimes. Sometimes. But it won't keep you from having an accident if you make a big mistake.

---jps

Macabre
11-11-2002, 01:31 PM
If you look at the ratio between normal WRX and STI in other countries, it comes out to low 30s. Who knows though, it's all speculation at this point. The Evo will most likely be priced somewhere between the two. The WRX is the car I'm looking at seriously besides the RX-8; I just can't justify the cost of an Evo or STi. I won't be racing either car and for that much money I don't want to drive an economy car with a nice drivetrain especially given the quality concerns around Subaru and Mitsu. The WRX is getting facelifted for '04 (US market, '03 in most others) but I'm not sure it's for the better.

http://users.bigpond.net.au/pepper/Rexilla/Blue%20STi.jpg

As for the electro-magnetic shocks, they can be purchased aftermarket for most cars these days ($$$)
http://www.huntleyracing.com/magneshock.htm

zoom44
11-11-2002, 01:43 PM
I suspect PoLaK's friend got off the road, into some dry dirt, and the tyres dug in going sideways and caused the car to roll. Not an ideal situation...
yep that happened to me and some of my freinds in high school. only doing 40mph on a back road in PA., in a freinds 1966 buick. we rolled twice also, ending up on the wheels. didn't really do any damage to us or the car except knock the wind out of us and scare the crap out of us. knocked the battery loose but we hooked it back up and it started so we just drove home. that car was a tank.

PoLaK
11-11-2002, 01:53 PM
Oo0o0oo aight i was under the impression that the car floated above the shocks like a maglift train or something lol that was dumb of me but its an interesting concept........

Red Devil
11-12-2002, 09:43 PM
The magnetic shocks for the Vette are only available in the 50th anniversary car right now. It is officially called Magnetic Selective Ride Control. It didn't make it into the Z06 because the computer system adds 13.2 lbs of weight. The next generation Vette, however, is supposed to come standard with the magnetic shock system. The on board systems corrects each shock individually more than 1000 times per second.

Speaking of, has anyone ever seen the old Corvette Rotary concept cars from the 70's? One had a two rotor and the other a four rotor. Obviously, they never made it past the concept stage.