:banghead: what a stupid idea! ugh. excuse me while I vent for a bit.

Oh and this is a long post and when you get to the end you may still be asking yourself what the point of it was. You were warned.

I'm never going to claim to be a car expert, but as far as I know, the RX-8 is not the fastest car in a straight line and it was never meant to be. Same for the S2000. So in that sense, they're similar cars (the similarities end there, I know). I was pretty set on getting an S2000, but I eventually changed my mind and went with the RX-8 because I needed the extra space. Oh, and the insurance was an assload cheaper, too. But I digress...

In a world obsessed with quarter mile times and low end torque, I own a car that excels at neither. So do S2000 owners. So you would think that when we see each other on the road, there would be a certain level of respect given. I'm not saying we have to roll our windows down and high-five each other at red lights or anything, but at the very least, you can look over and say in your mind, "you're a member of the high-revving, torque-less twisty club, too, eh? cool."

What I really wanna vent about is how some douche bag in an S2000 tried to race me the other day. I live in ocean city, maryland and a I dunno if any of you are familiar with the area, but one long road runs through the entire town with traffic lights at every block and it is crawling with cops. The speed limit is 40mph. I can think of at least twenty-seven reasons why it's a bad idea for an S2000 to try to drag against an RX-8 at 4 in the afternoon on coastal highway. I had to laugh at the guy (who looked to be in his mid-twenties) as he weaved his way through heavy traffic, cruised next to me, revving his engine, lagging behind, then blowing by me, getting in front of me and giving me this tough guy look in his rearview mirror.

No, seriously. I literally pointed and laughed out loud at him. And so did my girlfriend who was riding with me.

What the hell? When I bought this car, I thought my number one annoyance was going to be cops. On the contrary, my number one annoyance is insecure kids who feel like they have something to prove by risking my safety, their safety, and the safety of everyone else on the road by drag racing at every opportunity. I wouldn't have been quite as annoyed if he was in a mustang or something. I mean, at least he knows what his car is built for, right? But an S2000?! vs an RX-8?! Talk about buying a vehicle for the wrong purpose and wasting its true potential.... It's like buying a Hummer for, well, anything other than operation iraqi freedom.

And THEN just today, I'm cruising in the slow lane at 60mph (the speed limit was 50 in this area and, like I said, cops are everywhere) and some idiot in a scion TC decides to blow by me doing at least something in the upper 70s, low 80s. I could go on with the attempted race stories (like the civic ex with the F1 wing on the back that tried to start shit) but I'll stop there.

I never knew street racing was such a "cool" thing to do until I bought this car. Man, I never ran into this shit when I had my Geo Storm. :icon_no2:

Don't people realize that, uhhh, people die doing this shit? :scratchhe

I'm only 22 years old, and I never thought I'd be saying this at such a young age, but...

Fucking kids these days. :mad:



And yes, I would like some cheese with my 'whine'

I'll say two things:

1. The RX-8 is rare (relatively) and looks very sporty -- people think it's much faster than it is.

2. If you car had more get up and go I'm willing to bet you would have compromised you clearly superior maturity level and pwned whatever n00b was taunting you. Don't get mad because you went with what was behind door #2.

lol dude chill , just ignore them...you got a nice car so they think you're some bad ass or something...yeah just ignore them , im 18 and i hate to say this too but...damn kids! :)

I'm 44 years old and I'm one of those 'kids' who goes out hunting for poseurs in my stealth turbo 8.

My best 'kill' so far is an STi...shoulda seen the look on that guy's face when the boost came on & I passed him.

Priceless.

Life is short...go out and get some of it.

I'm 44 years old and I'm one of those 'kids' who goes out hunting for poseurs in my stealth turbo 8.

My best 'kill' so far is an STi...shoulda seen the look on that guy's face when the boost came on & I passed him.

Priceless.

Life is short...go out and get some of it.


get ready for it ......

:flamed:

anyone who doesnt play a little with cars lesser than theirs is lying or really not into the whole 'sports car' thing, or has no ego or something, i dunno my ego is too large to even conceive of not havign an ego.

I'm 44 years old and I'm one of those 'kids' who goes out hunting for poseurs in my stealth turbo 8.

My best 'kill' so far is an STi...shoulda seen the look on that guy's face when the boost came on & I passed him.

Priceless.

Life is short...go out and get some of it.

I live in ocean city. tourists flock to that area. at 4 in the afternoon during the summer, you can't go more than a half mile without seeing a mother and her kids using the crosswalks. I think asking someone who owns a sports car to not drive it, erm... with a little "enthusiasm" every now and then is unrealistic. but c'mon... driving like a complete moron in an area like this is just, well, stupid. It's coastal highway, not laguna seca.

besides, if you really wanna race your car... they have tracks for that, y'know? so if you lose control at speeds in excess of 100mph and someone ends up getting hurt because of it, chances are it's not going to be a pedestrian.

Sometimes you do get respect. Today, getting on the freeway, a 350z (in that horrible burnt-orange color) was about spitting distance behind me. I hate being tail-gated, so I revved it up and let it loose. Of course, he stepped on it immediately; stayed right behind me all the way- and it's twisty on-ramp for 1/3 mile or so. By the time we got onto the freeway proper (and it was early so traffic was light) we were "a bit" over the speed limit. I settled-down to cruise and he kept right on, passing me- but smiling broadly and nodding. I knew what he was thinking- "that was fun!"- I was thinking it too. He waved as he took the very next exit and we parted ways.

That's when it's fun- when it's not a test of manhood, or for world domination. Just hang-on, go fast, and catch me if you can!

You failed.

Sometimes you do get respect. Today, getting on the freeway, a 350z (in that horrible burnt-orange color) was about spitting distance behind me. I hate being tail-gated, so I revved it up and let it loose. Of course, he stepped on it immediately; stayed right behind me all the way- and it's twisty on-ramp for 1/3 mile or so. By the time we got onto the freeway proper (and it was early so traffic was light) we were "a bit" over the speed limit. I settled-down to cruise and he kept right on, passing me- but smiling broadly and nodding. I knew what he was thinking- "that was fun!"- I was thinking it too. He waved as he took the very next exit and we parted ways.

That's when it's fun- when it's not a test of manhood, or for world domination. Just hang-on, go fast, and catch me if you can!


yep

Guilty morale of the story though: get a turbo or sc, so that you're sure you'll eat some nubcakes for breakf4st instead of talking about how stupid kids are =D

tsk tsk


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I'll say two things:

1. The RX-8 is rare (relatively) and looks very sporty -- people think it's much faster than it is.

2. If you car had more get up and go I'm willing to bet you would have compromised you clearly superior maturity level and pwned whatever n00b was taunting you. Don't get mad because you went with what was behind door #2.


That is about the best answer to this thread as one can have, and it's 100% true. He wouldn't think and say what he said if his car was one of the faster sports cars out there. There's some typical RX8 owner inferiority going on here.

Maybe he's mad because out of the torqueless high revving sports cars, the S2000, although not superior, is still noticably faster in a straight line, and the handling noticably better as well. :evil_laug Even S2000's are licking their chops at RX8s, because they know they are faster. :lol2:

That is about the best answer to this thread as one can have, and it's 100% true. He wouldn't think and say what he said if his car was one of the faster sports cars out there. There's some typical RX8 owner inferiority going on here.

Maybe he's mad because out of the torqueless high revving sports cars, the S2000, although not superior, is still noticably faster in a straight line, and the handling noticably better as well. :evil_laug Even S2000's are licking their chops at RX8s, because they know they are faster. :lol2:

are you serious?

even though my car isn't the fastest in a straight line, I still find myself in a lot of situations situations where I'm the faster sports car. that doesn't mean I start driving like a moron. my car handles very well. that doesn't mean I pass people on curves on solid lines doing well over the speed limit.

I have the inferiority issues? if the s2000s are "noticably faster in a straight line"... why would he even feel the need to jump on a completely stock RX-8 with his modded honda? I still have my temp tags on it for crying out loud.

And apparently you missed the part of my post where I said I like the s2000's and I was a step away from getting one but I chose to go with the RX-8 instead.

And to help illustrate my point, here are a couple pictures of my town.

this photo just shows how little room for error you have:
http://oceancity.shownbyphotos.com/imgs/20060803-oc-midtown-9993-800.jpg

and this one shows how bad traffic always is during the summer:
http://oceancity.shownbyphotos.com/imgs/20060725-north-ocean-city-0094-800.jpg

Frankly I think a lot of it comes down to attitude and how you handle yourself behind the wheel. Sure we've all messed with slower cars, however, I can't speak for the rest of you but 99% of my slower victims have been ASKING to be messed with.

One example...filling up at a local station and across the way is a cobalt revving his engine over and over again, or the beat to crap neon with a Semi size wing on the back. Sorry but anyone pretending to be faster than they are should get put into their place. Anytime I pass a cobra or a Z06 on the highway I do so respectfully knowing I'd get my tail handed to me if they even sneezed on the throttle.

That aside, some people have to race everyone at will to get kicks. It's fun to roll with someone and have some fun in traffic. Still, I've found people who gotta race at every stop light feel they have to prove something.

My philosophy with street racing is similar to this: those guys who talk about size in their pants most often don't have anything to talk about.

I would never mess with anyone who looks like they want to race. I only go after minivans and other assorted n00bs. I never lose!1!!!

I like to race pigeons. By which, I mean I like to see if they can get out of the road before I turn them into pancakes. Oh, and I'm not saying the OP is a crybaby, I'm just saying.

I guess I'm one of the few siding with OP then. I don't see any reason to do that on the street either. I know how fast (or slow, whichever you want to call it) my car is from 0-60 and 1/4 miles. I don't need to prove it on the street.

Around town, I'm typically cruising around at the speed limit or slightly above it. I'm cheap and don't want to pay for a ticket, let alone insurance. For some reason, people in sporty cars like tailing me. Most of the roads are one lane for each direction, so they can't get around too easily. I feel that if I'm trundling along at a sane speed, people should at least give the decency of 150 feet. But, no. I get tailed. I dislike speeding up since that just makes them keep tailing me, except we're going faster which is bad. So, I slow down... a lot. I just downshift into a lower gear and let the engine wind down. Then, when I'm about to get to a corner or turn, I gun it and take it aggressively. About 75% of the time, this makes the person following me back off and give me my space. The rest of the time, it just eggs them on and they keep tailing me. So, I slow down even more when the road straightens out. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to be shot one of these days. Until then, this is how I get my kicks.

next time bring your gun and shoot him..hahah

I know the phrase "take it to the track" is a bit of a cliche around here, since no one can expect a Civic to follow you to a road course at 10pm. But really, go to a track and learn to drive well on it and work on improving your driving skills there. Then everyone else starts to look like posers.

:banghead: what a stupid idea! ugh. excuse me while I vent for a bit.

Oh and this is a long post and when you get to the end you may still be asking yourself what the point of it was. You were warned.

I'm never going to claim to be a car expert, but as far as I know, the RX-8 is not the fastest car in a straight line and it was never meant to be. Same for the S2000. So in that sense, they're similar cars (the similarities end there, I know). I was pretty set on getting an S2000, but I eventually changed my mind and went with the RX-8 because I needed the extra space. Oh, and the insurance was an assload cheaper, too. But I digress...

In a world obsessed with quarter mile times and low end torque, I own a car that excels at neither. So do S2000 owners. So you would think that when we see each other on the road, there would be a certain level of respect given. I'm not saying we have to roll our windows down and high-five each other at red lights or anything, but at the very least, you can look over and say in your mind, "you're a member of the high-revving, torque-less twisty club, too, eh? cool."

What I really wanna vent about is how some douche bag in an S2000 tried to race me the other day. I live in ocean city, maryland and a I dunno if any of you are familiar with the area, but one long road runs through the entire town with traffic lights at every block and it is crawling with cops. The speed limit is 40mph. I can think of at least twenty-seven reasons why it's a bad idea for an S2000 to try to drag against an RX-8 at 4 in the afternoon on coastal highway. I had to laugh at the guy (who looked to be in his mid-twenties) as he weaved his way through heavy traffic, cruised next to me, revving his engine, lagging behind, then blowing by me, getting in front of me and giving me this tough guy look in his rearview mirror.

No, seriously. I literally pointed and laughed out loud at him. And so did my girlfriend who was riding with me.

What the hell? When I bought this car, I thought my number one annoyance was going to be cops. On the contrary, my number one annoyance is insecure kids who feel like they have something to prove by risking my safety, their safety, and the safety of everyone else on the road by drag racing at every opportunity. I wouldn't have been quite as annoyed if he was in a mustang or something. I mean, at least he knows what his car is built for, right? But an S2000?! vs an RX-8?! Talk about buying a vehicle for the wrong purpose and wasting its true potential.... It's like buying a Hummer for, well, anything other than operation iraqi freedom.

And THEN just today, I'm cruising in the slow lane at 60mph (the speed limit was 50 in this area and, like I said, cops are everywhere) and some idiot in a scion TC decides to blow by me doing at least something in the upper 70s, low 80s. I could go on with the attempted race stories (like the civic ex with the F1 wing on the back that tried to start shit) but I'll stop there.

I never knew street racing was such a "cool" thing to do until I bought this car. Man, I never ran into this shit when I had my Geo Storm. :icon_no2:

Don't people realize that, uhhh, people die doing this shit? :scratchhe

I'm only 22 years old, and I never thought I'd be saying this at such a young age, but...

Fucking kids these days. :mad:



And yes, I would like some cheese with my 'whine'

Dude, you completely rock! Those of us that are familiar with my rants about youngsters in their cars these days will know that I seriously want to buy you a beer right now for saying this.

:)

I'm 44 years old and I'm one of those 'kids' who goes out hunting for poseurs in my stealth turbo 8.

My best 'kill' so far is an STi...shoulda seen the look on that guy's face when the boost came on & I passed him.

Priceless.

Life is short...go out and get some of it.

Ah, you're one of those douchebags who does ricer fly bys and makes the rest of us look like tools. I bet the guy in the STi didn't even know he was being raced, or was that riced.

Grow up and keep this shit off this board. I'm 44 as well, I do my racing where it belongs. In a race car, and on a race track.

I was driving a 2001 S2000 when I bought my 8. Had minor mods on it. It was quicker than my 8 is. The suspension was much stiffer and as a result I knew it if the rear stepped out 1/2 inch. With some suspension mods, I am sure that I can have my 8 handling just as well. The S2000 was fun, but I realy do not miss it and am glad I traded for my 8.

I geuss it is time to break down and finaly buy that suspension mods I have been planning for...oh....over two years.

Around town, I'm typically cruising around at the speed limit or slightly above it. I'm cheap and don't want to pay for a ticket, let alone insurance. For some reason, people in sporty cars like tailing me. Most of the roads are one lane for each direction, so they can't get around too easily. I feel that if I'm trundling along at a sane speed, people should at least give the decency of 150 feet. But, no. I get tailed. I dislike speeding up since that just makes them keep tailing me, except we're going faster which is bad. So, I slow down... a lot. I just downshift into a lower gear and let the engine wind down. Then, when I'm about to get to a corner or turn, I gun it and take it aggressively. About 75% of the time, this makes the person following me back off and give me my space. The rest of the time, it just eggs them on and they keep tailing me. So, I slow down even more when the road straightens out. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to be shot one of these days. Until then, this is how I get my kicks.

I drive the exact same way. I had a guy tailing me when we were stuck in traffic going 30 on the interstate. I think I got down to 10 before he finally figured out my game and went around me. Only difference is that my problem is with really big trucks. I guess they think they're being "intimidating" by riding my ass, but I just think they're "asking to go slower" since I need to make sure that they can haul their 5000 lb ass down from speed without hitting me in the event of an emergency.

We're going to be road rage assault buddies soon!

I'm 44 years old and I'm one of those 'kids' who goes out hunting for poseurs in my stealth turbo 8.

My best 'kill' so far is an STi...shoulda seen the look on that guy's face when the boost came on & I passed him.

Priceless.

Life is short...go out and get some of it.

Life is short for you...let the rest of us who aren't nearing the half century mark live out the rest of our lives without someone putting us at risk on the road with his street racing. I think 'kills' is an appropriate word associated with street racing.

Dude, you completely rock! Those of us that are familiar with my rants about youngsters in their cars these days will know that I seriously want to buy you a beer right now for saying this.

:)

yup. You did what anyone with sense should do. Ignore the idiots. Seems like you should have nothing but "you did the right thing" responses, imo.

Maybe next time we'll all get lucky, and the idiots who want to "play" in traffic will do so w/o their car.

I do agree w/Tull, tho. There are times where you get to play on a lonely stretch of road. And damn it's fun. As long as you get another driver who's of a similar mind set and it's just a little leg stretching & carbon blasting, not fan-boi racing.

well if peaple are idiots by drivinga sport car the way its meant to be, then Im an idiot. But at least I know when and where to do it. Testing my driving skills is my adrenaline rush, however I do it at night time cuz the streets are empty, or in the track. And I know my car can take it. Those that drive econoboxes that arnt meant to race, thats dangerous. Just because you dont understand our exitment when we do this doesnt mean your right or better. But your right though!!

A sportcar doesnt fit you if you just cruise around driving like a granny. get a bimmer or something...

excuse my grammar, oh and I live in germany where I push my car to 150 and I can tell you thats not enough

I'm 44 years old and I'm one of those 'kids' who goes out hunting for poseurs in my stealth turbo 8.

My best 'kill' so far is an STi...shoulda seen the look on that guy's face when the boost came on & I passed him.

Priceless.

Life is short...go out and get some of it.

To the OP, just because people die from Street Racers doesn't mean people don't die from things I'm sure you've done before in your lifetime. I bet if you think back there's been "stupid" things you've been a part of that have killed people before. Using "people die from street racing" isn't a very good excuse vent at people that do that. More people die every year from other stupid things, especially drunk driving.

I have to agree with SideWayz though, I like your style sir. Can't believe you beat an STi, that's pretty impressive for an 8 =)

Life is short, make the most of it while you can.

If someone wrote a book about your life, would anyone want to read it? :lol2:

Life is short for you...let the rest of us who aren't nearing the half century mark live out the rest of our lives without someone putting us at risk on the road with his street racing. I think 'kills' is an appropriate word associated with street racing.

You do understand it's not ONLY street racers that put you at danger while you're on the road?

Why does everyone have to hate and only rant about them?

What about the people on Cell phones that aren't paying attention? People trying to apply make-up while driving? People eating while driving? People that doing anything but focus on driving, while driving. Drunk Drivers, etc etc.

"In a world obsessed with quarter mile times and low end torque, I own a car that excels at neither. So do S2000 owners"

From my understanding the S2K can pull 1/4mile in high 13's. Which is very respectable.

As for the rx8, it needs some modifications to get it up to that level, I don't know why every one thinks that our cars are super fast, or thinks that its slow. Its not slow, neither is it fast. It was designed to be a sports car, and that's exactly what the rx8 is (same goes for the s2k). Both cars have a high reving power plant, with a near perfect gear box, relatively light weight compared to other in the same class, and manage to put a smile on the drivers face.

You do understand it's not ONLY street racers that put you at danger while you're on the road?

Why does everyone have to hate and only rant about them?

What about the people on Cell phones that aren't paying attention? People trying to apply make-up while driving? People eating while driving? People that doing anything but focus on driving, while driving. Drunk Drivers, etc etc.

Saw a chick driving in the lane next to me, about to merge on to the interstate, with a cellphone, with her feet out of the widow on the drivers side mirror, and her doing her nails.
I was like WTF?:spank: :puke: :spank:

"In a world obsessed with quarter mile times and low end torque, I own a car that excels at neither. So do S2000 owners"

From my understanding the S2K can pull 1/4mile in high 13's. Which is very respectable.

As for the rx8, it needs some modifications to get it up to that level, I don't know why every one thinks that our cars are super fast, or thinks that its slow. Its not slow, neither is it fast. It was designed to be a sports car, and that's exactly what the rx8 is (same goes for the s2k). Both cars have a high reving power plant, with a near perfect gear box, relatively light weight compared to other in the same class, and manage to put a smile on the drivers face.


Yeah, pulling 13's is really nice. I don't know why'd say they are slow...First of all they're not comparable cars, the S2k is a 4 cyl. It was made to do straight lines more so than the 8. It's a 4 cyl. that has a little bit more factory tweaking for higher HP than the RX-8 does.

And I agree with this post, with some Mods the RX-8 can pull some very nice quarter mile times, just as any car can. You have to remember the previous RX was for drag racing primarily and street racing, it was Twin-Turbo. Mazda strayed more away from that and just wanted to make a Naturally Aspirated monster car. And they succeeded pretty well. With some performance mods and a little FI, the RX-8 can be a nice contender to any car out on the road. It's pretty much just a RX-7 with a different sytle engine, and new body style. As soon as you toss on a Turbo.

These cars were made so they were fun to drive, and could hold a respectable 0-60 and quarter mile time. It's a car that tries to get you the best of everything, A good sports car, a good drag car, and a good track car. It's not really great or the best at any of these, but after you mod it the way you want it, then it can be. This car is just really versatile.

Saw a chick driving in the lane next to me, about to merge on to the interstate, with a cellphone, with her feet out of the widow on the drivers side mirror, and her doing her nails.
I was like WTF?:spank: :puke: :spank:

While she's doing that she could kill people, so why didn't you make a thread about how behavior like that is ridiculous and rant about it for 5 minutes worth of typing?

Because everyone knows that anytime you get behind the wheel of car you're at risk. Wether it's street racers or not.

Infact, I'd say most of the time when you see a Street Racer get in a wreck, more than likely it's because some retard wasn't paying attention and pulled out infront of them.

Even so, most of the street racing people think of and see in videos is mostly done on empty roads, roads with very little traffic, or they just close off the roads some how.

He was picking on you, because it was the only other RWD Sports car that he thought he a chance against. I get that a lot in my S2000. I never get it in my "race car" (450HP SRT-4), the street racers know better. I really don't get much attention at all while driving 8's ( I don't own one YET, but I work for a dealer, and have one as a demo.

He was picking on you, because it was the only other RWD Sports car that he thought he a chance against. I get that a lot in my S2000. I never get it in my "race car" (450HP SRT-4), the street racers know better. I really don't get much attention at all while driving 8's ( I don't own one YET, but I work for a dealer, and have one as a demo.

Did you take off the SRT-4 tags? I'd make it a sleepr, take the tags off, change the hood (isn't the hood scoop non-functional anyway?)

Only thing that would make it look like an SRT-4 would be the 2 outs on the exhaust?

This crap annoys me everytime I think about it and read about it.

Honest:

I do not condone street racing of any kind but I have to admit the urge is there to street race! Do I do it? To be honest there were VERY few times (I could count them on one hand) where I may have slipped and I raced another car on the street. However, I made absolute shure there were no pedestrains, cars, people in general that could have been hurt if by the off chance an accident would happen. Does that make it right...No. There is a dark side to us all and sometimes we listen. It makes our lives more interesting.

I preach over and over again the importance of taking it to the track and I am looking forward to getting into the LEGAL racing scene very soon. At the same time I understand the urge to race...It doesn't go away even when you go to the track you leave wanting more. It's a powerfull thing to us car nuts/race fans. So while I do not agree with street racing I can understand at the very least.

However, I am sick and tired of people complaining how street racing is endangering regular peoples lives. I do understand that at times it genuinly affects regular people on the road but I've been living in a community thats seen a great deal of street racing and every single time its the same story. They are FAR AWAY from normal traffic where regular pedestrians/motorists are not affected (I do NOT spectate these events but I know of them). I drive maybe 400+ miles a week (not in the Rx8) and I rarely see ANY street racing of ANY kind during normal driving hours. Most of these events happen in secluded areas away from traffic and people. I say if they want to risk there lives by doing such a reakless thing as participating in an event that is not regulated and does not have medical supervision then let the dum people kill themselves. It makes the lines at your local track much faster to get through. They should be severely punished when they risk normal drivers and pedestrians. Again...I think street racing is wrong but the fact that its being idolized as an automotive epidemic is the governments way to focus on an easy target instead of actually resolving traffic issues for once. I guess I am a mad man for saying what some people don't want to hear!

In fact I see more people who do not know how to drive following the speed limit causing more altercations on the road than anything else. Someone said it before that driver education is what is needed and I stand behind that comment 100%!

Maybe you dont agree with me maybe you do...It does not matter its the internet after all! :naughty: Oh, if my age is any factor I am 29 and I am educated...Although my spelling might dictate otherwise. :evil_laug

Side note: I do not drive the Rx8 everyday but when I do she see's the redline at least once every 10 to 20 min. I have 35 k miles on stock spark plugs and coils and the car feels every bit as strong as the day I bought her! I even average anywhere between 220 to 280 miles on a tank of fuel. Next maintenance project...Coils, plugs, redline synth for tranny and diff, and plug wires.

Irony:

I expect to be :flamed: :flamed: and I don't give a crap! I am starting the automotive revolution...Street racing is not the evil...Stupid people are! :Eyecrazy: :rollingla

Yeah, pulling 13's is really nice. I don't know why'd say they are slow...First of all they're not comparable cars, the S2k is a 4 cyl. It was made to do straight lines more so than the 8. It's a 4 cyl. that has a little bit more factory tweaking for higher HP than the RX-8 does.

And I agree with this post, with some Mods the RX-8 can pull some very nice quarter mile times, just as any car can. You have to remember the previous RX was for drag racing primarily and street racing, it was Twin-Turbo. Mazda strayed more away from that and just wanted to make a Naturally Aspirated monster car. And they succeeded pretty well. With some performance mods and a little FI, the RX-8 can be a nice contender to any car out on the road. It's pretty much just a RX-7 with a different sytle engine, and new body style. As soon as you toss on a Turbo.

These cars were made so they were fun to drive, and could hold a respectable 0-60 and quarter mile time. It's a car that tries to get you the best of everything, A good sports car, a good drag car, and a good track car. It's not really great or the best at any of these, but after you mod it the way you want it, then it can be. This car is just really versatile.

wow,

you are the king of dont have a clue on on the rx8, the rx7 or the s2000..


beers :beer:

Irony:

I expect to be :flamed: :flamed: and I don't give a crap! I am starting the automotive revolution...Street racing is not the evil...Stupid people are! :Eyecrazy: :rollingla

Fantasic post, and I have to say that I agree.

Here in Phoenix, you only have to look at the traffic death statistics to see what effect speed itself has on traffic accidents. While speed is a factor with nearly every accident that occurs...the 2004 or 2005 statis for Phoenix showed that 8.9% of the annual deaths (around 450) were specifically from speed.

The research was done in response to the speed cameras being installed on the 101 in Scottsdale of which I was against.

From a driver's standpoint, racing at the track gives you many safety benifits that no doubt you are all aware of. Tracks have straight, level tracks which are prepared and maintained throughout the race event. Your car must pass basic safety standards as well.

Street racing means having to deal with normal road conditions which could include dust, dirt or loose gravel as well as racing a car or cars which are poorly maintained and not kept up.

Bottom line is with the amount of drunk and distracted driving here in Phoenix which results in the greatest amount of deaths it would be nice to see the same kind of attention paid to those problems. While DUI's carry harsh punishment, I have yet to see a drunk driver's car crushed or the kinds of fines imposed on DUI drivers that are placed against street racers.

I fully support mandatory driving tests every 10 years and strict tests on vision. State governments poorly fund their DMV and, like Arizona, the DMV's tend to be overworked I'm sure. Still, the lives saved every year would be worth it.

Frankly IMO the biggest driving crisis Phoenix faces are all the elderly snow birds who spend 6 months driving around their home towns and can't handle the big city.

You do understand it's not ONLY street racers that put you at danger while you're on the road?

Why does everyone have to hate and only rant about them?

What about the people on Cell phones that aren't paying attention? People trying to apply make-up while driving? People eating while driving? People that doing anything but focus on driving, while driving. Drunk Drivers, etc etc.

Very true and I agree with you...it's just that increased speeds raises your chances of being hurt seriously. And I know I rant all the time (maybe not on this board) about almost being hit so many times cuz people aren't paying attention or simply failing to check their blind spot.

lol from a site from GoesLikeStink :lol2:

Fantasic post, and I have to say that I agree.

Here in Phoenix, you only have to look at the traffic death statistics to see what effect speed itself has on traffic accidents. While speed is a factor with nearly every accident that occurs...the 2004 or 2005 statis for Phoenix showed that 8.9% of the annual deaths (around 450) were specifically from speed.


And how many of these were actual factual street racing deaths? Not all 450 could have been.

You have to remember the previous RX was for drag racing primarily and street racing, it was Twin-Turbo. Mazda strayed more away from that and just wanted to make a Naturally Aspirated monster car.

Just a wild guess but:
You never owned an RX-7
You never owned an S2000
You do own the limited edition, super special bonus feature version of The Fast and the Furious

Just a wild guess but:
You never owned an RX-7
You never owned an S2000
You do own the limited edition, super special bonus feature version of The Fast and the Furious

No
No
No

But I did go High School and every RX-7 I've ever seen was always on the street where people went to street race. So you'll have to pardon me if I think that's the only thing they're good for, especially since they come with FI. I'm sorry? :rolleyes:

Sorry that every RX-7 I've seen has always been doing 90+. I guess they were produced to be daily drivers and granny cars?

Edit: What does me owning an S2000 have ANYTHING to do with how I view RX-7's?

No
No
No

But I did go High School and every RX-7 I've ever seen was always on the street where people went to street race. So you'll have to pardon me if I think that's the only thing they're good for, especially since they come with FI. I'm sorry? :rolleyes:

Sorry that every RX-7 I've seen has always been doing 90+. I guess they were produced to be daily drivers and granny cars?

Edit: What does me owning an S2000 have ANYTHING to do with how I view RX-7's?

I'd like to know how you qualify the previous RX7's as drag cars having never owned one. High school kids will drage race ANYTHING.

No
No
No

But I did go High School and every RX-7 I've ever seen was always on the street where people went to street race. So you'll have to pardon me if I think that's the only thing they're good for, especially since they come with FI. I'm sorry? :rolleyes:

Sorry that every RX-7 I've seen has always been doing 90+. I guess they were produced to be daily drivers and granny cars?

Edit: What does me owning an S2000 have ANYTHING to do with how I view RX-7's?

In your words, it was for drag racing primarily and street racing. People street race Civics, something tells me that's not what Honda had in mind.

The RX line excels in two areas - braking and cornering. Mazda's goal with the FD was to gain a hp/lbs ratio in the 10:1 range. That's not a world beater by any standards - then or now. But in braking and cornering, for a street legal car it was amongst the best of its time. If Mazda wanted to make the RX-7 a drag car, they would have used a 3 rotor (which was considered) and made it weigh more like the 3400-3500lbs 300ZX and Supra.

See the similarities between the FD and the RX-8? This is why Mazda gave us great things like a fully adjustable suspension, light weight (for its class) and oversized brakes.

Plain and simple, these are cars built for road courses.


edit: wait a minute, I asked if you owned and S2000, and you said "no". Now in your edit, you claim you do????????

I'd like to know how you qualify the previous RX7's as drag cars having never owned one. High school kids will drage race ANYTHING.

No...they won't.

All you'd see primarily are Camaro's, TA's, WRX every now and then, a Some SRT-4's, RX-7's, Eclipse GSX/GST's, And maybe a vette if you were lucky. Even once a Dodge Viper came out.

This is your "lolz i has cavalier" type of place

So if the RX-7 wasn't made for high-speed's and zoom zoom, please tell me why it was made?

Was it a family vehicle? No.
Was it made to tug around boats and Jet Ski's? No.
Is it a 4-Sedan? No.
Sports car? Yes.

What do Sports cars NORRRRRRMALLY do. Especially with FI. Race? Mmmmmm I don't knooooow. I think RX-7's just had that soccer mom appeal and that's why people bought them. It had nothing to do with the speed or the car or anything like that.

So do-tell. If the RX-7 didn't go into production to be able to produce a quick accerlating car with a good top speed, then what was it made for?

No...they won't.



Yes...they will.

Kids are dragging in hondas and neons and dodge intrepids? If you don't think its true go do a google search for any of the aforementioned cars + "forum".


So do-tell. If the RX-7 didn't go into production to be able to produce a quick accerlating car with a good top speed, then what was it made for?

check the previous post.:banghead: :icon_no2:

In your words, it was for drag racing primarily and street racing. People street race Civics, something tells me that's not what Honda had in mind.

The RX line excels in two areas - braking and cornering. Mazda's goal with the FD was to gain a hp/lbs ratio in the 10:1 range. That's not a world beater by any standards - then or now. But in braking and cornering, for a street legal car it was amongst the best of its time. If Mazda wanted to make the RX-7 a drag car, they would have used a 3 rotor (which was considered) and made it weigh more like the 3400-3500lbs 300ZX and Supra.

See the similarities between the FD and the RX-8? This is why Mazda gave us great things like a fully adjustable suspension, light weight (for its class) and oversized brakes.

Plain and simple, these are cars built for road courses.


edit: wait a minute, I asked if you owned and S2000, and you said "no". Now in your edit, you claim you do????????

Granted, but the RX-8 more so than the RX-7. The RX-7 might have been made for that, and that's fine, but I've never seen it used for that. I didn't hear people "No I can't race my RX-7 because it's not made for drag racing" like almost all 8 users will say. Everyone raced them, because they were fast. It's just like a WRX, they're for off-roading and such, but people still mod them for racing, and on the street when you see one your first thought isnt "lolz WRX's are slow". Especially the STi's.

Your civic arguement goes back to saying "people will race with anything". I know the civic isn't. Whenever you see a Civic and an RX-7 going down the street, the RX-7, you know it's fast, the Civic...Uhhhhm it depends if the person has modded it or not. But a stock 7 is pretty fast.

And no I don't own an S2k, I was asking how if I did or didn't how it would have annnnnnything to do with my thoughts on an rx-7

Yeah, pulling 13's is really nice. I don't know why'd say they are slow...First of all they're not comparable cars, the S2k is a 4 cyl. It was made to do straight lines more so than the 8. It's a 4 cyl. that has a little bit more factory tweaking for higher HP than the RX-8 does.

And I agree with this post, with some Mods the RX-8 can pull some very nice quarter mile times, just as any car can. You have to remember the previous RX was for drag racing primarily and street racing, it was Twin-Turbo. Mazda strayed more away from that and just wanted to make a Naturally Aspirated monster car. And they succeeded pretty well. With some performance mods and a little FI, the RX-8 can be a nice contender to any car out on the road. It's pretty much just a RX-7 with a different sytle engine, and new body style. As soon as you toss on a Turbo.

These cars were made so they were fun to drive, and could hold a respectable 0-60 and quarter mile time. It's a car that tries to get you the best of everything, A good sports car, a good drag car, and a good track car. It's not really great or the best at any of these, but after you mod it the way you want it, then it can be. This car is just really versatile.

Wow. Just wow...

I was gonna respond to this but then I noticed that you drive an AT.

Yes...they will.

Kids are dragging in hondas and neons and dodge intrepids? If you don't think its true go do a google search for any of the aforementioned cars + "forum".



check the previous post.:banghead: :icon_no2:


In my town they don't. So it's whatever, you'll see intrepids and neons with Underglow kits and mufflers, but they don't really race. And saying neons in general you make it sound like no one should race them. the SRT-4 is a car I would race, FI ftw? Sort of like the RX-7. It's FI therefore it's a quick car thefore people will race it, and since I never have read an article or history of the production of the 7 my best guess would be it's a turbo sports car, so it would be for racing, yes?

your previous post wasn't up when I was typing that out, my bad?

Wow. Just wow...

I was gonna respond to this but then I noticed that you drive an AT.

And me driving an AT or an MT has any variance on how I would view RX-7's?

Maybe I should just say the 7's weren't made for racing, but it's what a lot of people use them for.

man don't trip. It could be worse. I've been edged on by a C6 Z06 (no sir), Ferrari F430 (want no part of it), Acura TL and Type-S, 2 G35 coups, and an S2K.

Did I race them ... eh, I got the itch on some (you can tell from the list which). I beat the TL and Type-S, the G35 coups, and tied the S2K (intake + exhaust) but probably would have easily won (I had 3 passengers, all girls weighing in at 115 to 125lbs). I thought the S2K was just toying with me by staying behind me, but when we got off the highway, he roled down his window and yelled "damn that thing is fast, what did you do to it???". He told me he was trying to keep up, after I told him I thought he was going to pass me.

S2Ks are faster, but not THAT much faster than the 8. I've driven a friend of mines on very numerous occasions. And I know for a fact we were even. I had a Borla catback and he was stock.

I still think he should of passed me though with all the weight I had. Something was wrong with his car.

By the way, these races were more of "spirited" driving on roads that you don't see really anybody on at the times of the occurances or hardly anybody on them at all at any time. Also these are all the "occurrences" I've had since I've had the car March 16, 2005. I don't condone street racing for the simple fact that if you want to race, GO TO THE TRACK. Prep your car, learn the racing line, study the your opposing car's weaknesses and strengths. There will be know interferences come race day. Just you, the opponent, a track, and a clock.

the 2004 or 2005 statis for Phoenix showed that 8.9% of the annual deaths (around 450) were specifically from speed.

Actually, the deaths were probably due more to a sudden decrease in speed...

Actually, the deaths were probably due more to a sudden decrease in speed...

Sudden Deceleration Syndrome...SDS kills...tell your friends to say NO! to SDS!

I tried going at it with one of the new Cobra's, some guy around my age pulled up to me on the highway at 2am and I figured what the hell?

Never doing that again. I think he was more embarrased to be seen racing an RX-8 than I would be losing to him =O

Curse this AT transmission...Never making this mistake again! Even if my parents did talk me out of it this time around.../sigh

Yeah, the AT was holding you back against the new Cobra :rolleyes:

Or one with a simple pulley change...

In my town they don't. So it's whatever, you'll see intrepids and neons with Underglow kits and mufflers, but they don't really race. And saying neons in general you make it sound like no one should race them. the SRT-4 is a car I would race, FI ftw? Sort of like the RX-7. It's FI therefore it's a quick car thefore people will race it, and since I never have read an article or history of the production of the 7 my best guess would be it's a turbo sports car, so it would be for racing, yes?

your previous post wasn't up when I was typing that out, my bad?

So its F/I that makes something a racer, eh? Even this:

http://digiads.com.au/car-news/images/article_7618-img_0.jpg

Mad tyte JDM twin turbo powah!!!one!!eleven!!1!!

Maybe I should just say the 7's weren't made for racing, but it's what a lot of people use them for.

You're missing the point. its the TYPE of racing. sure you can drag an RX7. You can drag an RX8, a yugo or a shopping cart. But that is not the strength of the car. If you want a stoplight racer you should be looking at muscle cars not sports cars.

even an F1 car would be considered a bad race car in comparison to a top fuel dragger if you're looking at 400m times.

First of all they're not comparable cars, the S2k is a 4 cyl. It was made to do straight lines more so than the 8.

wtf? you do realize that the s2k can outhandle and go faster than the rx8 anyday, its one of the best handling cars off factory.

And I agree with this post, with some Mods the RX-8 can pull some very nice quarter mile times, just as any car can. You have to remember the previous RX was for drag racing primarily and street racing, it was Twin-Turbo.

You sir, are an idiot!

Yeah, the AT was holding you back against the new Cobra :rolleyes:


Didn't say I thought I was going to win =O

Just a general statement.

So its F/I that makes something a racer, eh? Even this:

http://digiads.com.au/car-news/images/article_7618-img_0.jpg

Mad tyte JDM twin turbo powah!!!one!!eleven!!1!!

Why do you hate me? :rolleyes:

You're missing the point. its the TYPE of racing. sure you can drag an RX7. You can drag an RX8, a yugo or a shopping cart. But that is not the strength of the car. If you want a stoplight racer you should be looking at muscle cars not sports cars.

even an F1 car would be considered a bad race car in comparison to a top fuel dragger if you're looking at 400m times.

What I'm saying is, is that primarily the only thing I've seen them used for is just street racing, I use to go to the track a lot, never really saw too many out there.

I understand what you're saying, but you have your head so far up your ass you don't see what I'm saying. It's just my opinion on them, and I was stating it. I'm sure that we don't see eye to eye on the subject, but it's no reason to just constantly flame me every chance you have? Oh wait it's the internet, yes that is the reason.

wtf? you do realize that the s2k can outhandle and go faster than the rx8 anyday, its one of the best handling cars off factory.



You sir, are an idiot!

Sorry didn't know that, I read the forums daily and I see people always comparing the RX-8 to the S2k and they say it's an over all better car...I thought that meant it handled better than the S2k since the S2k has more HP I thought that meant it probably doesn't have as good suspension, and just assumed that's what it was.

Thank you sir, I never said I wasn't. When it comes to cars, most of the time I am, I just repeat what I read on the forums, and go by what I've seen in the past and my experience.

When it comes to cars, most of the time I am, I just repeat what I read on the forums, and go by what I've seen in the past and my experience.

when it comes to cars - or anything for that matter - remember:

believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear. and assuming the opposite is true when you read shit on an interweb forum is a good start.

when it comes to cars - or anything for that matter - remember:

believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear. and assuming the opposite is true when you read shit on an interweb forum is a good start.

So, seeing as how you're saying this on an "interweb forum" I should, therefore, believe most of what I see, all of what I hear, and assume that everything is true when I read it on an interweb forum.

So, seeing as how you're saying this on an "interweb forum" I should, therefore, believe most of what I see, all of what I hear, and assume that everything is true when I read it on an interweb forum.

No you believe what you hear on the interweb, ignore what you read, and assume that everything is pr0n...

What I'm saying is, is that primarily the only thing I've seen them used for is just street racing, I use to go to the track a lot, never really saw too many out there.

what type of track did you go to, and what type of car did you take there?

So, seeing as how you're saying this on an "interweb forum" I should, therefore, believe most of what I see, all of what I hear, and assume that everything is true when I read it on an interweb forum.

correct.


believe most of what you see, all of what you hear, and assume that everything is true when you read it on an interweb forum


does that clear things up?

Sorry didn't know that, I read the forums daily and I see people always comparing the RX-8 to the S2k and they say it's an over all better car...I thought that meant it handled better than the S2k since the S2k has more HP I thought that meant it probably doesn't have as good suspension, and just assumed that's what it was.

Thank you sir, I never said I wasn't. When it comes to cars, most of the time I am, I just repeat what I read on the forums, and go by what I've seen in the past and my experience.

Too much Fast and Furious influence, when people on here say the rx8 is a better, car its because it can do lets say 95% of what an s2k and has 4 seats, but in terms of sheer fun, the s2k is very hard to beat.

Too much Fast and Furious influence, when people on here say the rx8 is a better, car its because it can do lets say 95% of what an s2k and has 4 seats, but in terms of sheer fun, the s2k is very hard to beat.

Sorry to say but I've never really seen a Fast and Furious movie, seen bits and pieces but I've never really sat through one, the only one I have seen for longer than 5 minutes is the one that had an rx-8 in it, my roomate saw it and called me in his room to see it.

As far as I knew the S2k and RX-8 were pretty equal, just thought it didn't handle as well since it has a higher HP rating. /shrug my bad?

If the S2K is so superior why do people even bother getting 8's when they know this information?

when it comes to cars - or anything for that matter - remember:

believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear. and assuming the opposite is true when you read shit on an interweb forum is a good start.


Will do. I guess I just put too much trust into some of these people on the forum =O

First things first. I am now dumber for having read this thread. At no point of this rambling incoherent nonsense did you come close to having an answer that made any sense. You are awarded no posts, and may god have mercy on your soul.

If the S2K is so superior why do people even bother getting 8's when they know this information?

Why did you buy an RX-8?

Was it the design? Was it the rotary engine? Was it the emotion that you felt when you first drove it? Maybe it was a combination of forged aluminum A-arm front and mutilink rear suspension? Or the carbon fiber driveshaft?
Oh. Maybe it was that it was all of that, plus it seats four, drives like butter, and has a more compliant suspension than anything in its class

The fact that anyone would call out the OP for being derisive of street racers is rediculous. If anyone is curious about the older forum members being concerned of this car falling into the hands of younger and younger owners(maturity speaking), they need only reference the responses in this thread versus similar threads from two years ago.

If the S2K is so superior why do people even bother getting 8's when they know this information?

Did you not read my previous post? :spank: :spank: :spank: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Did you not read my previous post? :spank: :spank: :spank: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

From what I read you said it can do 95% of what an S2k can do, has 4 seats, but when it comes to sheer fun it's very hard to beat the s2k.

So implying that you're saying the 8 doesn't beat it in fun, you're missing out on 5% of the things, but for 2 extra seats. Family friendly version of the s2k? That's what it sounds like you're trying to say

First things first. I am now dumber for having read this thread. At no point of this rambling incoherent nonsense did you come close to having an answer that made any sense. You are awarded no posts, and may god have mercy on your soul.



Why did you buy an RX-8?

Was it the design? Was it the rotary engine? Was it the emotion that you felt when you first drove it? Maybe it was a combination of forged aluminum A-arm front and mutilink rear suspension? Or the carbon fiber driveshaft?
Oh. Maybe it was that it was all of that, plus it seats four, drives like butter, and has a more compliant suspension than anything in its class

The fact that anyone would call out the OP for being derisive of street racers is rediculous. If anyone is curious about the older forum members being concerned of this car falling into the hands of younger and younger owners(maturity speaking), they need only reference the responses in this thread versus similar threads from two years ago.

I bought one because I liked how it drove, and it looks really sharp.

Yes. Didn't really care. Probably. Wouldn't really know, never got to drive it around like I stole it since the dealer was with me. Not really. Four seats I couldn't care about, although it is nice to have them. Driiiiiives like butter? Okaaaay? Great, good to know.

I'm sure that's some type of crack about how everyone is afraid the forums will be over-run with teenagers or college students since 04 models are getting cheaper and you don't want the "lol fast and furious" street racing kids asking stupid questions, etc etc?

Sorry if I made anyone mad in this thread, wasn't really my intention, just going off of what I've heard and seen. I know you can't believe everything you hear but I just wanted to give my 2 cents and try to help out. The OP just needs to understand that people will try to race him if they have a similar car as far as speed goes, etc etc.

As for the whole RX-7 thing, I'm not entirely sure on wether I've owned one or not had anything to do with what I first said to the OP, but I gave my thoughts on that. Sorry I've been misinformed on a lot of this.

If we could please just leave the thread as is that'd be great, otherwise if you feel that you have to demean and alienate me as a member of this forum in every way possible then keep going. I came here to get info on my car so I can keep it in great condition til the day I sale it as well as being able to chat with fellow members and have some fun.

Why did I pick an RX-8? I didn't. With some tickets I have on my insurance from when I was young and stupid in high school with my trans am, my parents didn't want me to get anything with a V8 or anything else that would cost a lot to cover, like a WRX which is what I really wanted.

Had I known the S2k performed better than 8's as far as handling and HP go but I wouldn't have my 2 back seats, I would have just taken my step-mom with me to the Honda dealership. She's the one who suggested an RX-8, I saw an article about them in a magazine I was reading one day at work and it talked up the car a lot for me, sounded really interesting. So I went to the dealership, test drove this one, went with it because the price for it vs the others on the lot was amazing, even if some of the others were MT's >_<...So I decided to get it, and I haven't really regretted that decision. As far as joining this forum to get some help and idea's about the car, and just to talk to reply to threads because I'm always extemely bored at work and looking for something to do, I have to say I really regret it now.

Saturn was right when he said

rx8club.com: Because being better than everyone else is a team effort.

Jesus Christ. I guess everyone else on this forum must be bored with whatever they're doing when they reply to this thread if the only thing they have to do is reply with so much hate and negativity to someone who just read the wrong things and made assumptions based on what he had seen before. Sorry that every RX-7 I've seen has either been at the track racing or was street racing. I'm pretty sure if that's all anyone else had seen of them everyone else would have made the same assumption about them.

It's not like I same in here saying that I'm an expert on anything or that I said I'm right, and you're wrong. You'd think you could cut me some slack here. Sheesh!

Edit: I do although want to thank you guys for replying so now I have a better idea about these things and hopefully whenever start talking about them again I'll be able to hand out the correct info to whomever is asking or is talking about them.

But I do have to say, if I'm not suppose to believe things I read on the interweb, what makes you guys so different to where I should believe what you say over what I've read from other people on this forum? :rolleyes:

i love it when s2ks rev at me.
one rev back with the 3" Piping + turbo Spool + blow off valve = STFU NOOB.

i love it when s2ks rev at me.
one rev back with the 3" Piping + turbo Spool + blow off valve = STFU NOOB.

Amen :)

Shini,

The reason that you are getting all of these replys is that you're trying to give us reasons why the RX8 is not as good as a S2000. You are on an 8 forum, where while we do know the weaknesses of our car, the majority of us are still happy with the purchase that we made. I personally test drove all of the supposed "superior" cars that keep being mentioned. I was just giving the reason that I bought mine. I'm not trying to convince you that you should think that the 8 is heaven-send. In fact, seeing as you're admiting that you made a mistake by not shopping around when making a $25-30k purchase, you may as well just go to that Honda dealer, trade in your 8 and buy the car that you really want.

oops - ninja edit.


am i crazy, or has this been bounced around a bit?

He was picking on you, because it was the only other RWD Sports car that he thought he a chance against. I get that a lot in my S2000. I never get it in my "race car" (450HP SRT-4), the street racers know better. I really don't get much attention at all while driving 8's ( I don't own one YET, but I work for a dealer, and have one as a demo.

Nothing says douchebag like calling an SRT-4 a race car. And I PROMISE that you don't have an RX-8 for a demo. You might have pulled one into the washbay to get it ready for a customer...

wow, this is a pointless thread.

I'm overwhelmed.... so let me get this straight... you got owned by a s2k and a scion.... ;-)

jokes aside... let it roll off bro... life is too short and at your age you have alot of driving ahead of you... if you let this stuff bother you you're gonna go out of your mind...

Shini,

The reason that you are getting all of these replys is that you're trying to give us reasons why the RX8 is not as good as a S2000. You are on an 8 forum, where while we do know the weaknesses of our car, the majority of us are still happy with the purchase that we made. I personally test drove all of the supposed "superior" cars that keep being mentioned. I was just giving the reason that I bought mine. I'm not trying to convince you that you should think that the 8 is heaven-send. In fact, seeing as you're admiting that you made a mistake by not shopping around when making a $25-30k purchase, you may as well just go to that Honda dealer, trade in your 8 and buy the car that you really want.

No no, you have me all wrong. Before your post, I thought the 8 was the superior car to the S2k. I just though the S2k was a little faster in the straight lines but couldn't handle like an 8, which would be a trade off. I love my 8, and I don't feel like I've made a mistake in getting it. I got a fantastic deal on it, and have had pretty good luck so far with it. There have been the occasional dealership visits here and there but that's to be expected with an 04. I didn't buy it for 25k-30k, I got it for 18.5k. With 9k miles on it. I was just bringing up a point that if the S2k is so superior to the 8 but is only missing 2 backseats (the 8's aren't really THAT roomy to begin with anyway...), then I was just wondering why most people chose an 8 over the S2k. I would never trade in my 8 unless it was to get a newer model of one, or one that has an MT transmission. I've had so much fun in this car and couldn't think about driving any other car unless I end up having a mid-life crisis and just want to buy a Vette or a similar car like that.

In a nutshell, I love my 8, I was just asking you if this S2k is so superior to our cars, why doesn't everyone just get one of those then. Back when I was shopping for cars, if I had test driven an S2k maybe I would have bought it. But after having my 8 for a little over a year now I don't think I could part with it so easily.

I'm overwhelmed.... so let me get this straight... you got owned by a s2k and a scion.... ;-)

jokes aside... let it roll off bro... life is too short and at your age you have alot of driving ahead of you... if you let this stuff bother you you're gonna go out of your mind...

Just tired of all the asinine comments everytime I check the forum. I hear people say "Don't listen to anything you read on the internet!" then they turn around and tell me I'm wrong and they're right. And they probably are right, but no one ever took a second to just put themselves in my shoes and see where I was coming from about my thoughts, etc etc. I was just tired of it. I know I may have been wrong but atleast cut me some slack and understand where I'm coming from.

No no, you have me all wrong. Before your post, I thought the 8 was the superior car to the S2k. I just though the S2k was a little faster in the straight lines but couldn't handle like an 8, which would be a trade off. I love my 8, and I don't feel like I've made a mistake in getting it. I got a fantastic deal on it, and have had pretty good luck so far with it. There have been the occasional dealership visits here and there but that's to be expected with an 04. I didn't buy it for 25k-30k, I got it for 18.5k. With 9k miles on it. I was just bringing up a point that if the S2k is so superior to the 8 but is only missing 2 backseats (the 8's aren't really THAT roomy to begin with anyway...), then I was just wondering why most people chose an 8 over the S2k. I would never trade in my 8 unless it was to get a newer model of one, or one that has an MT transmission. I've had so much fun in this car and couldn't think about driving any other car unless I end up having a mid-life crisis and just want to buy a Vette or a similar car like that.

In a nutshell, I love my 8, I was just asking you if this S2k is so superior to our cars, why doesn't everyone just get one of those then. Back when I was shopping for cars, if I had test driven an S2k maybe I would have bought it. But after having my 8 for a little over a year now I don't think I could part with it so easily.


Ok. Nevermind.
Truth be told I don't even remeber what the hell I even bothered posting in this thread. It was either to point out that any comparisons are worthless, or that street racing is stupid. I tried using humor, but it apparently went over your head, at which point you decided to call me out for trying to point out how worthless this thread had become. Either way, seeing as this has become your personal thread, and I could really care less, I believe that I shall be unsubscribing.

I'm overwhelmed.... so let me get this straight... you got owned by a s2k and a scion.... ;-)

jokes aside... let it roll off bro... life is too short and at your age you have alot of driving ahead of you... if you let this stuff bother you you're gonna go out of your mind...

*shrugs*
truth be told, what bothered me the most was the fact that we were in such a busy area when tried to bait me into a race.

Here's a local news story from a few days ago... http://www.wboc.com/Global/story.asp?S=6689203

i will take a stab at this.. the s 2000 is way better than an 04 auto in almost every way.. except carrying 4 people...

do your research before you buy.. it helps..

beers :beer:

They are both great cars. It's just personal preference. My RX8 wasn't my daily driver, and it simply left me wanting more in a fun car (a bit more power, lighter weight, better handling, and a drop top, so I made the switch. If if it's not your daily driver, and you don't need the room, then to me The S2000 is the better choice. That's just an opinion though. Not every one loves both of these cars.

I also feel I got a more reliable vehicle, so all my RX8 problems weighed in majorly. No signs of any issues on this car, and a super track record regarding reliability.

One is a better sports car, the other is a better all around car. I love both, and if I could afford a second fun car, I'd still have an RX8. :)

Nowadays I don't race any idiots anymore coz i'm scared my replica MS wing would fly off coz of a loose screw.

^....mmk

Let's allow this thread to die, kthx.

i will take a stab at this.. the s 2000 is way better than an 04 auto in almost every way.. except carrying 4 people...

do your research before you buy.. it helps..

beers :beer:

Wasn't really in a barganing position.

Parents were buying me a car. I wanted to get a WRX, but it was too much for my insurance. Then I was looking at the new Dodge Chargers, didn't really like them and even so they were too much on inusrance aswell.

Step-mom called me up one day and asked me about RX-8's, I remember seeing them before and liking them, test drove it, liked it, step-mom liked it, my father liked the price on the car and the insurance, so we got it.

I'm pretty sure the S2000 would have been pretty bad on insurance aswell...It's not that I didn't like the car, that's why I bought it, and even after people said the S2k is a better sports car, I still like it.

I just didn't know S2k's were the much more superior to 8's. Had I have test driven one I probably still would have chosen the 8.

The dealership was trying to get me into a Black 350z, but I didn't really want it because it was a little pricier (and my dad wouldn' thave liked that), and it didn't have a backseat which isn't very practicle. So all in all the 8 is a WINRAR! and I love it. I spend every saturday or sunday night getting washed and cleaned in and out. I wouldn't have it any other way now.