If i dont clutch, i really have to force it in and its probably not good for it. Im new to stick so im not sure how big a problem this is.

are you saying that you have to force it into neutral? i always clutch to take it out of gear so i'm not sure if it is difficult or not.

Yes, it is normal. Thats the way it should be done.

this is a joke right?:confused:

Originally posted by tribal azn2
this is a joke right?:confused:

Seriously....tell me you're joking

imo
you should never need to force in or out of any gear by using the clutch, other wise something is wrong.
but it is posible to shift with out using the clutch,
the thing with manual trans is that, the gears open up at certain rpm-I believe they are around 1700rpm.
one way to find that not so exact rpm is to drive as nornal in let say second gear, very lightly(cause the 8 shift too easily) keep steady/slight pressure on the stick toward nuetral with couple fingers, now vary the rpm between 1500 to 2000.
you will feel the shifter pop into nuetral.
you can shift into gear the same way.
I had drove my rx7 for a week without using my broken clutch.
one thing is that you need to be very experience and know about gearing, expeciallly trying to move from a full stop.
I would use the clutch at all time and not to force it.
anyone find this correct or not please at or correct me.

Originally posted by RussellP
If i dont clutch...

nonono... that's just not something you do with a modern transmission. never never try to shift without the clutch. problem solved.

Oooooooooops. I was under the impression that you dont have to push in the clutch to get into nuetral. For the most part I've been pushing in the clutch but there have been occasions when I didnt. Hopefully I havent done too much damage as ive only had the car for about six days....

also dont ride the clutch with your left foot but put it on the dead peddle. riding the clutch is bad as is shifting without depressing the clutch.

Originally posted by come 8 me
it is posible to shift with out using the clutch,
the thing with manual trans is that, the gears open up at certain rpm-I believe they are around 1700rpm.


is this true for all car?
gears open up around 1700?

what is the benifit of not using clutch?
and downside??

I have no doubt that the next incarnation of the RX8 will have a paddle shift/no clutch option...

...if they're reading this thread they will anyway! :D


Guy's, go here http://www.standardshift.com/

on a similar note, after the sun sets, do you need to use the car headlamps?

I'm getting my new RX-8 next Jan here in the UK and have heard it deteriorates battery performance? Anyone else heard this?

ta!

Originally posted by razz
on a similar note, after the sun sets, do you need to use the car headlamps?

I'm getting my new RX-8 next Jan here in the UK and have heard it deteriorates battery performance? Anyone else heard this?

ta!

Hey, if they put the powerful lights at hte back of the car, facing backwards, would that make the car go forward fast.

...I'm sure that's how the photon drive works...

On an associated topic, is it important to take off the handbreak whilst driving around towns? It makes sense on open roads, but driving around towns in the UK, involving frequent breaking and acceleration, I tend to find that leaving the handbreak on tends to smooth things out more.

I'm sure those who are fully conversant with advanced driving techniques involving a clutch should be able to answer this.

brits are incapable of being funny

Now that is funny, Russell. You are a comedy giant.

"If i dont clutch, i really have to force it in and its probably not good for it. Im new to stick so im not sure how big a problem this is."

That's like saying "If I urinate into my electrical sockets I get an electric shock. What should I do"

Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this."

Doctor: "Then don't do that!"

Originally posted by RussellP
brits are incapable of being funny

HA HAHA HA HAHAHA HA HA HAHA

Oh my stomach!!!

Bad analogies......what if i were peeing in a toilet and getting shocked? What if i said "Doctor it hurts when i eat" would he tell me not to eat? I was just makin sure there wasnt a problem with my shifter. Now that i realise I wasnt supposed to be doing that, im just worried about how much damage i may have caused.

A fair point, Russell - having been this side of the pond (Wales, in England) for a few years now I'm only just started getting used to this quaint British humor - they do lack our sofisticated humor for sure...

*Anyway* .... getting back on-topic, when I get my car (it's bright red with the spare tire), is there really any need for more than the two gears - reverse and forward should be okay, right? - and if I take the car back home to NJ, do I need to get the steering wheel moved onto the other side of the manual shift stick?

Thanks for the input.

Originally posted by RussellP
Bad analogies......what if i were peeing in a toilet and getting shocked? What if i said "Doctor it hurts when i eat" would he tell me not to eat? I was just makin sure there wasnt a problem with my shifter. Now that i realise I wasnt supposed to be doing that, im just worried about how much damage i may have caused.

Just drive it the way it should be driven and keep an ear out for strange noises. The syncrmesh on manual transmissions these days is normally fairly bullet proof.

If you have a problem use your warranty. I doubt that you could have caused any serious damage really...

Amyone notice the little eye-bolts, I've never seen oars that thin.

So the clutch pedal is the one on the left, then the gas pedal, then the brake....or is it gas, brake, clutch....oh, I'm so confused. Can someone drive this car for me???

Originally posted by English
So the clutch pedal is the one on the left, then the gas pedal, then the brake....or is it gas, brake, clutch....oh, I'm so confused. Can someone drive this car for me???

LOL!!

I heard they're comming out with toothpaste in England.

alright children, enough... sheehs, Russell is new to manual transmissions, and didn't have anyone to show him (whom he could ask instead), and asks us, does that mean we ought to ostracise him?? good god. leave it alone.

Its fine, i can take some insults from these middle-aged, viagra addicted jack-offs whose daughters ill probably f*ck.

Even though I know nothing about audio-visual kit, I've recently bought a new 42" wide-screen plasma TV, complete with active surround sound. My mate has one, and I thought I'd look cool if I had one too.

Does anyone know whether it comes with more than one TV channel? Every time I switch it on, it's the same one.

You can drive a manual car without the clutch at all. Have done it before, not always by choice. I wouldnt recomend trying if your new to the car or manual transmission.

Should be able to pop it out of gear without the clutch too.

American humour is like a sledgehammer. Trying to say the Uk has no sense of humour is like sayting it has no air, wrong thing to try picking on us about.

Oh and I think you'll find we invented dentistry and toothpaste, all we need to do now is find some way to market it here.

re: telly -

yeah - a friend bought a new TV the other week and had a similar problem- is the channel it's always tuned into very dark and muted? I do like plasma TVs though - they look v. cool.

To be fair, you _could_ drive your car without using a clutch - you could save a fair bit on brakepads by getting small teams of builders to build temporary brick walls at your destinations too ;)

i reiterate: I will make love to all of your daughters

well in that case, let's just hope that you're packing more 'downstairs' than you are 'upstairs' then Russell...

Originally posted by razz
A fair point, Russell - having been this side of the pond (Wales, in England)

Don't *EVER* say that in Wales!

Look, you guys are gonna turn me into a troll and you DONT WANT ME AS A TROLL. Im witty and balsy and gross and Ive got the time to make this entire message board a living hell depending on how responsive the moderaters are. Im gonna be annoying as $hit if you keep pushing me.

Originally posted by RussellP
Look, you guys are gonna turn me into a troll and you DONT WANT ME AS A TROLL. Im witty and balsy and gross and Ive got the time to make this entire message board a living hell depending on how responsive the moderaters are. Im gonna be annoying as $hit if you keep pushing me.

duu nurr nurr nurrrr.. duh nurr nurr nurr nurrr.... *clothes rip*

I wouldn't want you as a Troll Russell. I wouldn't want you as anything else, for that matter.

Well, you're already thick as sh!t, so my vote is that you go for the whole set.;)

Only joking Russell, only joking.

What's your stance on seats in cars? Good thing or bad thing?

Hey, RussellP, your not the trell, dont become one. pbrstreetgang seems to be nothing but a troll.

I applaud you for choosing the MT RX-8, rather than the Auto, unlike some, your giving a manual a go, and finding out what you should/shouldnt can/cant do with one. Its a much more rewarding way of driving, and you have tons more control of that the car is doing - auto is ok for snooze mode, but pants for any real driving.

Ignore the trolls, enjoy your car, and I mean it, we(in UK) are still waiting for our cars, very jelouse.

alright ill keep a lid on it for the time being, but i think im just delaying the inevitable. Id say theres a 65% chance im gonna become a major troll on these boards.....lets see, how about Ill promise to call it off if p(repu)b(escant)rstreetgang starts a thread entitled: "My son gave me genital warts"

You got 24 hours.

If you attack me with stupidity, I'll defend myself with sarcasm.

face it, you are no monty python.

Originally posted by pbrstreetgang
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll defend myself with sarcasm.

So far all you have is sarcasm. Oh and stupidity - your the most obvious troll I've seen in years.

Sorry for the question, but where did all this "keeping it in the family" business come from?

Is it playing on someones' mind or something?? ;)

The RX-8 is a car designed for Wankels.

If you were clever you woulda told me that i should be able to go to nuetral without the clutch hehe......my car would be destroyed by now.....

I'd seriously think about getting driving lessons in a learner car - you can bunny-hop down the road wearing out his clutch before you file yours down - but there again, I'm sure Daddy'll buy you a new one if you do ... :)

#1 i bought my own (23 year old homeowner with an rx-8, no college)
#2 i drive stick fine. Smooth ride, no stalling. In the mustang i learned in (two hour lesson) the shifter was just popping into nuetral at will. Stupid intsructor spent the whole lesson tellin me how much her job sucks.

On every manual I've driven (*lots - UK driver here) I can always put the gear in neutral with no clutch - sometimes its a fight, othertimes not, depending on car and/or revs.

n/m

Rob, yeah of course you _could_ do that, but why would you want to? That's what the clutch is for.

PS: I bet you're popular with car hire companies!

"Was everything alright with the car, Sir?"

"Yeah. Oh, except that I couldn't be bothered to use the clutch to put the gearbox into neutral, and just ripped it out of gear. That okay?"

"Remember that deposit you left with us....?"

pbrstreetgang - your a fool.

Its actualy kinder on the transmission if you change gear without the clutch if you know what your doing. In normal driving its not easy to do though, unless you know the car and its gearing very well.

As for taking it out of gear without the clutch, I've done this with every car I've owned, over the last 15 years, and every one has been a manual. It wont cause a problem, wont break anything, all your doing is disengaging 2 gears, which are rotating at the same speed (doing it whilst accelerating/decelarating may cause a problem).

You have any idea how a gearbox/clutch work? try www.howstuffworks.com or something.

Now go away, real, learn, prehaps even drive a car or something.

That is true enough, as long as you can control your revs and have straight-cut gears. If you're telling me that was the case 15 years ago, I'll call you a liar.

Anyway, my work here is done. Plenty good trolling had here. So long suckers.

This thread was very funny initially (if not a bit sad) but has now run its course and should be stopped.

rael

i agree

Originally posted by lovelaker
i agree

Ummm yeah...

Originally posted by lovelaker
i agree

Great first post to resurrect an almost year old dead thread!!

Wheeee!

who's that walking over my bridge...?

lol... my eyes popped out when i read this post. OMG

Dude, just use clutch to shift....just like a few people have already said.

i know......its a year later and I drive stick fine. That was my first day with the car and i didnt know how to drive stick, obviously. Picked it up in no time though, and now id smoke any of you.

Who told you to take the car out of gear without using the clutch?! I can't believe some one told you this!!! AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH!

Now that is funny, Russell. You are a comedy giant.

"If i dont clutch, i really have to force it in and its probably not good for it. Im new to stick so im not sure how big a problem this is."

That's like saying "If I urinate into my electrical sockets I get an electric shock. What should I do"


You guys shouldn't be laughing. I've been driving a stick since before some of you were born, and no, I do NOT always use my clutch to put the car in neutral- sometimes, coming up to a light or a stop sign, I'm lazy about it, and I just slide the stick out of gear into neutral.

No harm done to any of my stick cars: Fiat 124 Spider, Alfa Romeo Veloce 2000, Mercury Capri V6, Maserati BiTurbo Coupe, and Spyder.

Oh, and my Protege, too.