I am in the market for a convertible and I am really interested in the Mitsubishi Spyder GT. I test drove one today... and it felt amazing. Now the only thing that i didnt like was the fact the it is a FWD. but i didnt care cuzz it felt powerfull. i will still keep my 8.
I was wondering what you guys think of the 262 hp GT Spyder?
the one that i am looking at is going for 25K with almost all the goods!!

here are some pics of what they look like...

http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/mitsuspyder2-lg.jpg

http://www.carbuyersnotebook.com/archives/EclipseSpyder.jpg

i've never been a fan of the eclipse for many reasons- absolutely horrible safety marks, poor overall performance, overally fugliness- and the list goes on & on...

there are so many better choices out there for a convertible out there. yes- maybe not in that price range. but, u do get what u pay for. a convertible is already not as safe as other cars. and, honestly, the last car u'd want to get hit in is an eclipse.

if u value your life and the passengers you'll be carrying, get something else. seriously.

I don't like it personally, for 25K-ish I would get a Sky Redline

convertible = bad. i dont like the eclipse at all.

So you want a car that's more expensive than a Mustang GT, just as heavy as a Mustang GT, less powerful than a Mustang GT, looks uglier than a Mustang GT, and sends the power to the wrong wheels?

Have fun with that.

I don't like it personally, for 25K-ish I would get a Sky Redline


You're not getting a Sky Redline for anywhere near 25k.

i've never been a fan of the eclipse for many reasons- absolutely horrible safety marks, poor overall performance, overally fugliness- and the list goes on & on...

there are so many better choices out there for a convertible out there. yes- maybe not in that price range. but, u do get what u pay for. a convertible is already not as safe as other cars. and, honestly, the last car u'd want to get hit in is an eclipse.

if u value your life and the passengers you'll be carrying, get something else. seriously.

You must be able to see the future because as far as I know there is no crash test data on the Eclipse. The previous model scored fairly well in safety ratings. So, show me the source of your info that would make you say "if u value your life and the passengers you'll be carrying, get something else" :rolleyes:
Also, I don't know where you get overall poor performance from. The steering on them is good, they handle fairly well, and in the 1/4 the coupe can trap over 100mph and run low 14s.

If someone were to give me an Eclipse, I'd take it... but no way would I spend money on one.

convertible = bad. i dont like the eclipse at all.

You are very right, a convertible doesn't handle as well and weights more but steven000e wants one and it is his money. Besides when ever he wants to step into a real car he still has his 8.

But i tend to agree with the rest, 268hp to the front wheels = torque steer.

The sky redline would be a good choice, but have you thought about a convertible Z?

You're not getting a Sky Redline for anywhere near 25k.

My -ish is bigger than most I guess. I had one for priced for 31 out the door...but got the 8 instead.

So you want a car that's more expensive than a Mustang GT, just as heavy as a Mustang GT, less powerful than a Mustang GT, looks uglier than a Mustang GT, and sends the power to the wrong wheels?

Have fun with that.

The Mujstang GT Vert is more expensive than the Eclipse Spyder by a few thousand...

The Mustang GT's are marked up as well especially the convertibles. If we are talking 25k-30ish. I would have to go with forking up the extra dough for a s2000.

I am in the market for a convertible and I am really interested in the Mitsubishi Spyder GT. I test drove one today... and it felt amazing. Now the only thing that i didnt like was the fact the it is a FWD. but i didnt care cuzz it felt powerfull. i will still keep my 8.
I was wondering what you guys think of the 262 hp GT Spyder?
the one that i am looking at is going for 25K with almost all the goods!!

here are some pics of what they look like...


I like this car a lot too. Yea, yea, it's FWD and heavier than a handful of midsize sedans, but what's this car really about? It's a very cool-looking, quick sports cruiser with a stylish interior and comfy seats. At that price, I'd like one more than a mustang convertible (coupe vs. coupe, I'd go the other way.) The loaded examples I've seen are more in the low 30's though. Car & Driver also reported outstanding reliability on their's:

2006 Long Term Coupe:
http://www.caranddriver.com/longroadtests/12719/2006-mitsubishi-eclipse-gt.html

2007 Drop Top Test from C&D:
http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/10767/road-test-review-2007-mitsubishi-eclipse-spyder-gt.html

Also, I don't know where you get overall poor performance from. The steering on them is good, they handle fairly well, and in the 1/4 the coupe can trap over 100mph and run low 14s.

You've certainly picked perhaps the only reasonable spec(s) it has. The rest look fairly, no make that very - blaaa...

Here's why:

It:

Weight: 3680
Weight distribution, F/R: 59.8/40.2%
Drivetrain: FWD
Turning circle curb-to-curb: 40.0 ft
70–0 mph: 190 ft
Roadholding, 200-ft-dia skidpad: 0.83 g
Rollover protection: none


Rx-8

Weight: 3067 (2950)
Weight distribution, F/R: 51/49%
Drivetrain: RWD
Turning circle curb-to-curb: 35.4 ft
70–0 mph: 145 ft
Roadholding, 200-ft-dia skidpad: 0.87 g
Rollover protection: steel cage

You've certainly picked perhaps the only reasonable spec(s) it has. The rest look fairly, no make that very - blaaa...

Here's why:

It:

Weight: 3680
Weight distribution, F/R: 59.8/40.2%
Drivetrain: FWD
Turning circle curb-to-curb: 40.0 ft
70–0 mph: 190 ft
Roadholding, 200-ft-dia skidpad: 0.83 g
Rollover protection: none


Rx-8

Weight: 3067 (2950)
Weight distribution, F/R: 52/48%
Drivetrain: RWD
Turning circle curb-to-curb: 35.4 ft
70–0 mph: 145 ft
Roadholding, 200-ft-dia skidpad: 0.87 g
Rollover protection: steel cage

No, I'm commenting on actually driving the car rather than just numbers in a mag and bullshit like weight distribution. The Eclipse also comes with all season tires while the RX-8 comes with summer tires which will skew braking and skidpad results quite a bit. Also, turning circle has nothing to do with handling, if anything it indicates a car has quick steering. Lastly, why the hell are you comparing it to the RX-8?

Bottom line, the Eclipse handles well enough for any reasonable person to have fun on the streets, it's fairly quick, and it's a pretty good value.

convertible = bad. i dont like the eclipse at all.


Depends how you look at it. This is a nice looking car, with lots of power, especially when rolling. It's more of a luxury sports convertible, and leaves a lot to be desired as a pure enthusiast car. If I was in the market for a cool drop top daily driver, this would be on the list of candidates. As a fun enthusiast car, no, too heavy, and FWD, but I don't agree with many of the people responding to this thread.

The criticism is based on what the car was built for. This isn't meant to be what people want it to be, and what they criticize it for. This is a luxurious alternative meant for your basic consumer. It's naturally gonna get bashed by enthusiasts on a car forum like this, but my head turns when I see one, and it's got the looks and the power to make a darn good daily driver drop top.

Overall, I think Mitsubishi did well with this car, and it will appeal to more of a market then the RX8, so why criticize it. Then again, the RX8 takes an even bigger beating in other car forums, so why not criticize it. ;)

thanks for the help guys

It has come down to this
I got about 25-27 to spend on a convertible and i want something new or almost new (warranty reasons)


07 eclipse spyder
http://www.canadiandriver.com/photos/2007/mitsubishi/eclipse_spyder/07eclipsespyder_10.jpg

Honda S2000
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/0311_000a+Honda_S2000+Front_Drivers_Side_View.jpg

NOT FAN of MUSTANGS so "NO"

Pontiac soltice (not really sure, i like it but something about it just doesnt feel right)
http://images.autobytel.com/view/aic/PONTIAC/SOLSTICE/cvt/usa_2007_pontiac_solstice_cvt_2_x_exfrdrvr75_x.jpg

Saturn SKY (well it feels just like the pontiac but the closes on to where i live is going for over 30K so thats too much)
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/aic/saturn_sky_roadster_2007_440x220.jpg?SATSKY3

well maybe a miata but ITs just too small for my taste....

which one ...... which one..... :confused:

No, I'm commenting on actually driving the car rather than just numbers in a mag and bullshit like weight distribution. The Eclipse also comes with all season tires while the RX-8 comes with summer tires which will skew braking and skidpad results quite a bit. Also, turning circle has nothing to do with handling, if anything it indicates a car has quick steering. Lastly, why the hell are you comparing it to the RX-8?

Well, umm, I'm comparing it to refute your comment (not the original poster's question). So the RX-8 has fairly good performance (not amazing) and you are saying "Also, I don't know where you get overall poor performance from..." so I'm illustrating by saying it's perfomance level is significantly below the RX-8.

And now weight distribution is "bullshit"??? :rolleyes: That's a new one ike!
Turning circle has to do with suspension design not steering quickness - and on a FWD car turning circle generally suffers because of this... just like this car. And THAT is one "actually driving the car" spec that makes it a PITA in any low speed parking/turning situation. I know from experience w/one of my other cars that has a similar spec.

S2k all the way if you can afford one.

Used MX-5 Miata or used S2K. The Eclipse is all poser and so ugly.

Check out cars.com.

thanks for the help guys

It has come down to this
I got about 25-27 to spend on a convertible and i want something new or almost new (warranty reasons)


07 eclipse spyder ... Honda S2000 ... Pontiac soltice ... Saturn SKY

well maybe a miata but ITs just too small for my taste....

which one ...... which one..... :confused:

The Saturn and Soltice look nice in a chrome kinda way...just no storage and unknown reliability. I say why not take the S2K, still not much storage, but a known quality car and have some fun!:)

thanks for the help guys

It has come down to this
I got about 25-27 to spend on a convertible and i want something new or almost new (warranty reasons)


07 eclipse spyder
http://www.canadiandriver.com/photos/2007/mitsubishi/eclipse_spyder/07eclipsespyder_10.jpg

Honda S2000
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/0311_000a+Honda_S2000+Front_Drivers_Side_View.jpg

NOT FAN of MUSTANGS so "NO"

Pontiac soltice (not really sure, i like it but something about it just doesnt feel right)
http://images.autobytel.com/view/aic/PONTIAC/SOLSTICE/cvt/usa_2007_pontiac_solstice_cvt_2_x_exfrdrvr75_x.jpg

Saturn SKY (well it feels just like the pontiac but the closes on to where i live is going for over 30K so thats too much)
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/aic/saturn_sky_roadster_2007_440x220.jpg?SATSKY3

well maybe a miata but ITs just too small for my taste....

which one ...... which one..... :confused:


You can get a nice used S2000 for that price. Probably an 05 with very little mileage. I mean, to compliment an RX8, a torquey car with noticably more power, and easy to go fast in seems like a smart choice. I couldn't own two torqueless cars personally. The Eclipse and S2000 will be night and day other then the fact that they are convertible. The S2000 needs high revving to be fast, and feels slow unless you stay in vtec all the time. There's no pull to it, just like the RX8. The Eclipse just needs your foot on gas, and it will go. That car is a beast once rolling, as the trap speeds show. When a car runs low 14s, but traps over 100mph, you know it's picking up serious steam on the second half. I'd stay clear of one in my S2000 on the highway, if I ever got challenged, because I'd lose.

I'm trying not to be partial, since I own an S2000. Since you have an RX8, I'd say go with the Eclipse. It will be brand new, and give you a totally different feel, then if you got an S2000.

The Solstice and Sky, well I'm partial to American cars, and I'd likely never own one. Plus, I need a power top. Tough call here, but drive both then decide.

I did a quick search lots of used S2Ks. I think you might be able to get a 2006 if you do a good job at dealing and don't mind paying at the top of your range. The good thing about the S2K is that it has been out a long time so the used market has good supply. And I think 2 seat convertibles tend to be short sighted purchases that people regret quickly if they find out it is incompatible with their lifestyle.

Sky over the Solstice.

Well, umm, I'm comparing it to refute your comment (not the original poster's question). So the RX-8 has fairly good performance (not amazing) and you are saying "Also, I don't know where you get overall poor performance from..." so I'm illustrating by saying it's perfomance level is significantly below the RX-8.

And now weight distribution is "bullshit"??? :rolleyes: That's a new one ike!
Turning circle has to do with suspension design not steering quickness - and on a FWD car turning circle generally suffers because of this... just like this car. And THAT is one "actually driving the car" spec that makes it a PITA in any low speed parking/turning situation. I know from experience w/one of my other cars that has a similar spec.

Actually no, you didn't illustrate a damn thing, you just tossed up some numbers that aren't even performance statistics is most cases. At no point did I say it handled as well as an RX-8, and no one is claiming the Eclipse is going to rip up a road course. In fact you're the only one that is comparing it to an RX-8, why would you do that?

Weight distribution is bullshit if you think it indicates how a car performs. There are plenty of cars with a weight bias that "outperform" cars with near 50/50 weight distribution. Turning circle has a lot to do with the steering rack, often cars with very quick and responsive steering have a larger turning circle. Finally, last I checked, needing a little more room to do a u-turn or parking is not a performance category.

Used MX-5 Miata or used S2K. The Eclipse is all poser and so ugly.

Check out cars.com.

They totally different cars with totally different buyers in mind. Telling someone that is looking at an Eclipse Spyder that they should get an S2000 is stupid. Unless of course the person that is looking at the Eclipse thinks it's some sort of enthusiasts car.

They totally different cars with totally different buyers in mind. Telling someone that is looking at an Eclipse Spyder that they should get an S2000 is stupid. Unless of course the person that is looking at the Eclipse thinks it's some sort of enthusiasts car.
Of course....a four-seat convertible with an A/T option targets a somewhat different buyer than a two-seat model that comes with a 6M only and a pretty stiff suspension. The V6 Eclipse is fast, but not a sports car, but I think some people who buy it think of it as a hardcore one.

I think your raison d'etre is to go around on here and post just to be cantankerous.

S2000 you noob, wtf are u thinking? if you dont get the S2K i will surpriz buttsechs you when you least expect it.

Of course....a four-seat convertible with an A/T option targets a somewhat different buyer than a two-seat model that comes with a 6M only and a pretty stiff suspension. The V6 Eclipse is fast, but not a sports car, but I think some people who buy it think of it as a hardcore one.

I think your raison d'etre is to go around on here and post just to be cantankerous.

My "raison d'etre" is to battle the forces of stupid.

Between te cars you listed; it's kinda hard for me because I am biased in that I don't like converts anyways

Eclipse: Good car with plenty of power, but has a little funky styling for me. Not to mention pretty poor safety ratings. And too many kids drive them

S2000: I love 'em but being 6'7" I don't even come in close to stuffing in one. Too small.

Soltice/Sky: Both are practically the same car, just look different. They have a joke of a trunk- tiny as all hell. Too plasticy and too typical GM qualitly.

I would say Miata- the new one is larger than the S2000 by a long shot. I can actually fit with some degree of comfort in one

Between te cars you listed; it's kinda hard for me because I am biased in that I don't like converts anyways

Eclipse: Good car with plenty of power, but has a little funky styling for me. Not to mention pretty poor safety ratings. And too many kids drive them

S2000: I love 'em but being 6'7" I don't even come in close to stuffing in one. Too small.

Soltice/Sky: Both are practically the same car, just look different. They have a joke of a trunk- tiny as all hell. Too plasticy and too typical GM qualitly.

I would say Miata- the new one is larger than the S2000 by a long shot. I can actually fit with some degree of comfort in one

Ok, now you can show me your source for poor safety ratings on the Eclipse.

Ike:

Turning circle has a lot to do with the steering rack, often cars with very quick and responsive steering have a larger turning circle.>>

Nonsense! It has to do with how far the wheels can be turned in, and on an FWD car, that allowance is cut dramatically to allow for drivetrain width.

Aside from that, here are my personal choices:

1)S2K
2) Solstice/Sky
3) MX-5

Ike:

My "raison d'etre" is to battle the forces of stupid.>>


Don't do us any favors. Thanks.

I'd love a Miata or a S2K as a second car.

I say get the Eclipse. It seems like you're just looking for something to cruise around with so I think it's a damn good choice. And if the Eclipse is 25K and it comes w/ the 650 watt stereo, that's even better. DO IT!!!

Ike:

Turning circle has a lot to do with the steering rack, often cars with very quick and responsive steering have a larger turning circle.>>

Nonsense! It has to do with how far the wheels can be turned in, and on an FWD car, that allowance is cut dramatically to allow for drivetrain width.

Aside from that, here are my personal choices:

1)S2K
2) Solstice/Sky
3) MX-5

Give me a break, most of the cars with the tightest turning circles are FWD.

I would think the smaller the car, the easier to have a smaller turning circle. The Yaris has a 32.6 feet turning circle. The latest Miata is around 30.8

I would think the smaller the car, the easier to have a smaller turning circle. The Yaris has a 32.6 feet turning circle. The latest Miata is around 30.8


Wheelbase is certainly a factor as well. But, if the steering rack lock to lock doesn't allow a tight turning radius then suspension and wheelbase won't make a car have a small radius.

Words of wisdom (so we can chuckle, chuckle) time (Oh no!)

"It would be nice to be sure of anything the way some people are of everything."

IOW...

"People who think they know what they're doing are especially annoying to those of us who do."

:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

We can ALL appreciate THAT!! :)

the insurance highway institute has published data on side-impact rating for the eclipse models. and, as i recall the eclipse was the worst in its class if not only marginally better.

[QUOTE=Ike;1908218]The previous model scored fairly well in safety ratings.

Seriously Mitsubishi has nothing going for it besides the Evo, all their other cars are total garbage compared to similar priced vehicles.

Wheelbase is certainly a factor as well. But, if the steering rack lock to lock doesn't allow a tight turning radius then suspension and wheelbase won't make a car have a small radius.>>

Wow, Ike, you mean the wheelbase is a factor too? Where would we be without you???

This bad boy has a 360° turning radius....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140124622994&ih=004&category=50377&rd=1

the insurance highway institute has published data on side-impact rating for the eclipse models. and, as i recall the eclipse was the worst in its class if not only marginally better.

[QUOTE=Ike;1908218]The previous model scored fairly well in safety ratings.
I actually took the time to go to their Website and look.

The new Eclipse did Good (top rating) in offset and side impact.

The Eclipse is heavy, FWD, handles like mashed potatoes, and looks like a shoe. If it were my money, I'd get either an S2000 or a Mustang GT Conv. You seem to like heavy things, raw HP, and four seats, so that learns toward the Mustang, which has the added benefit of RWD and 40 extra bhp. But you've already stated you don't like it. Fair enough, though it seems to have what you're looking for. Instead there's the S, which has the power and style but also possesses lightness (800 pounds lighter than the Eclipse! 800!) and much better performance. Only two seats, though, but as Jeremy Clarkson put it, the only person who looked good in the back seat of a convertible was Hitler.

You've also got the 350Z Roadster, which combines the power of the Mustang with the handling of the S2000 in a convenient phallic package. If you're not hell bent on performance and want a comfortable drop-top cruiser, you've got options like the Pontiac G6 Hardtop Convertible Coupe (i might get flamed for that one) that comes with the benefit of a solid roof and an optional 260-hp engine, which has similar characteristics to the Eclipse in a more practical and civilized (and in my eyes better looking) package. Or you could spring for a used base model Boxster or any of the MX-5 generations.

Just please, for the love of god, don't buy that Eclipse. The last two generations have been poser cars for The Fast & The Furious wannabes. It's got a big goofy fat ass, you can't see out of it, the interior is hideous, and it looks like something that's become infected and swollen up. Some will point out that, yes, it is decently quick in a straight line, but it fails in all other performance categories and if drag racing is your interest there are better cars to buy.

they must've seriously overhauled it then. if u look at the data for previous model years, the crash test performance was very poor.

they must've seriously overhauled it then. if u look at the data for previous model years, the crash test performance was very poor.
Cuz it was a totally different car.

Cuz it was a totally different car.

Even when it was a totally different car the safety ratings were not bad.

The Eclipse is heavy, FWD, handles like mashed potatoes, and looks like a shoe. .... It's got a big goofy fat ass, you can't see out of it, the interior is hideous, and it looks like something that's become infected and swollen up.

:rollingla too funny ... you sure know how to turn a phrase.... I love it :lol:

sorry, but if me i would just go buy a used S2k or a used current gen miata. the eclipse is just to ugly looking IMO.

If you don't mind used cars, S2k, BMW Z or 3 series are better choice over Eclipse IMO. I really like the look of current Eclipse, but I think the older one (with AWD & turbo) is better.

I like the looks of the new Eclipse but I would recommend a motorcycle instead. You are still exposed to the elements much like a convertible, you have seating for 2, you will have better power to weight and handling, you'll save 15k.

:)

Before I would do pick any of the choices you have here, I would definitely consider the 350 ZR used. I admit I am biased but I chose it over all the convertibles you have listed. It handles all the performance criteria if you are looking for that. Big enough for you to sit in if you are tall. Like someone said verts are usually weekend fun rides so you ought to find a well kept car with low miles in your price range. The car is drop top gorgeous though some disagree on the looks with the top up. The one real negative is sight lines out the back with the top up. Of course there is no problem with the top down which is as easy as pushing a button. Learn to use your mirrors and I thonk it will come out on top for you. At least take a test drive in one before you pull the trigger.

I have to agree with Sunset, that is an interesting alternative. There's one in our area with what look like 30 series tires, pretty sweet as a convertible. A nice low mileage 04 would save a bundle and still be ~$25K

I just saw a black GT V6 Eclipse convertible on the road with the top up. Ick.

I just saw a black GT V6 Eclipse convertible on the road with the top up. Ick.

Not only that, it looks like it's real hard to see out of. Not a well executed conversion.

Consider a VW Eos?????

Not only that, it looks like it's real hard to see out of. Not a well executed conversion.

Consider a VW Eos?????

The Base Eos will cost you about 2-3 grand more just for the MUCH slower 200HP version. Top of line version will cost you $37 grand and it's still less powerful, and weighs more. I am a VW fan, but that car is just in a totally different price league, plus you just don't get below invoice deals on VW vehicles, so it's not worth it. I'd imagine that car will sell for close to MSRP right now. The Eclipse Spyder has nice incentives going on right now. It's easy to criticize a car like this, but when they start unloading them for super deals, it's tough to argue against it, and the criticism really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If you get get an Eclipse Spyder GT for $25k brand new, that's one hell of a car for the money IMO. :)

Why, though? If I had a daily driver (he's keeping his 8) and an extra $25k to blow on a second car, that poor excuse for a sports car they call the Eclipse would be on the bottom of my list. Why not an FD or something?

Why, though? If I had a daily driver (he's keeping his 8) and an extra $25k to blow on a second car, that poor excuse for a sports car they call the Eclipse would be on the bottom of my list. Why not an FD or something?


Well, he wants a convertible with lots of power. For $25k, try finding a brand new convertible that has the power and the amenities of the Eclipse. Why would he get an FD RX7? It's not a convertible, and it's an unreliable money pit with no warranty. That would be a VERY bad decision. Read back. He wants a powerful convertible with a warranty. He narrowed it down to a used S2000 or a Brand new Eclipse GT Spyder.

I do understand though. If the RX8 is his daily year round commuter/beater like my Mazdaspeed 6 is, I'd definitely not be looking at a FWD car as a second fun car. Now if the RX8 is his fun car, and he wants a fun daily commuter with a drop top, the Eclipse is a nice choice, especially for $4-5k off MSRP. I don't think you can find a BRAND NEW convertible car with that much power and features for $25k anywhere. If you can, please post it. :)

Used Boxster S anyone?

I got your answer. A friend of mine is selling her 2003 G35 coupe (automatic) with 32K for $23,000.

I got your answer. A friend of mine is selling her 2003 G35 coupe (automatic) with 32K for $23,000.

Did she cut the roof off herself or something? Viking is right -- it's a good deal. People hear Eclipse and immediately start bashing it because they lack the capability to think for themselves.

The Eclipse convertible is a very well equipped car and for a cruiser I can't think of a better car if that's what you're into. The Mustang GT (which will be a little more expensive) is another alternative, so it really comes down to preference -- they're obviously very different cars.

This forum loves to pat itself on the back for being mature, but this thread really shows the worst of it. I'm glad there are a few people who can respond fairly and coherently regardless of their personal feelings on the Eclipse and/or convertibles in general.

my friend has a coupe of this car and he drives me around all the time :). I love the car, and it feels great. If you want to buy it go right ahead, its a great car.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m94/ivoryphoto/thumbs-up.jpg

The only good thing I can say about the current Eclipse is that Mitsubishi had a really cool commerical for the Eclipse in 1998.

try the new miata. suppose to perform better than the solstice/sky handling and 'feel' wise but the miata has less pwr.

not sure how easy it is to mod the current miata version, but prior versions had a huge aftermarket with many successful FI solutions.

1)new miata

2)used 350z convert (for pwr)

3)used s2K

IMO eclipse might be last vs the cars on your list or suggested above.

Did she cut the roof off herself or something? Viking is right -- it's a good deal. People hear Eclipse and immediately start bashing it because they lack the capability to think for themselves.

The Eclipse convertible is a very well equipped car and for a cruiser I can't think of a better car if that's what you're into. The Mustang GT (which will be a little more expensive) is another alternative, so it really comes down to preference -- they're obviously very different cars.

This forum loves to pat itself on the back for being mature, but this thread really shows the worst of it. I'm glad there are a few people who can respond fairly and coherently regardless of their personal feelings on the Eclipse and/or convertibles in general.

Couldn't agree more and as a current RX-8 owner and Mitsu Eclipse owner the stupid bashing is just pathetic. Mitsubishi builds a great product, I don't care what anyone says and all the their vehicles have great torque throughout the power band. I currently own a 2000 Eclipse GT (see below). This car has over 100,000 miles on it and runs better than the day it was new. Mitsu builds very good, very reliable, quality products, most of which are pretty much bullet proof if you do the idiot maintance.

With regards to whether or not you should get a new Eclipse spyder. Really depends on what you want to use the car for. Personally I'd say you are already highly interested in it, so go for it. It has an awsome warranty and if there is any one bad rap you can give Mitsu its that all their adds are geared towards those who can't afford their products.

Oh and with regards to the safety comments, I don't know where you guys are getting your information from but this car is heavy for a reason. Please people use your heads. Also any car can be made to handle great or go like stink, the only one draw back against the eclipse is FWD. Other than that I'd pit my 3G against my RX-8 any day with the mods I have done.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l244/Niteryd/100_1772.jpg

^^^^ Right on. I've read enough of the bashing of the past generation Eclipse, and my close friend has an 03 Eclipse GT. He beats the living snot out of that car too, and it shows no signs of failure. If I drove my Speed 6 the way he drives his Eclipse, you can bet your behind I'd have a failing car before too long. I wish my former RX8 and current Speed 6 could handle what that car can handle. It's actually more solid and durable, and I hate admitting it, but it's true. It has gotten ripped apart, but the fact is, it's a darn good car that's very well built, and built to last. I have little doubt the same rule applies to the new Eclipse.

Couldn't agree more and as a current RX-8 owner and Mitsu Eclipse owner the stupid bashing is just pathetic. Mitsubishi builds a great product, I don't care what anyone says and all the their vehicles have great torque throughout the power band. I currently own a 2000 Eclipse GT (see below). This car has over 100,000 miles on it and runs better than the day it was new. Mitsu builds very good, very reliable, quality products, most of which are pretty much bullet proof if you do the idiot maintance.

With regards to whether or not you should get a new Eclipse spyder. Really depends on what you want to use the car for. Personally I'd say you are already highly interested in it, so go for it. It has an awsome warranty and if there is any one bad rap you can give Mitsu its that all their adds are geared towards those who can't afford their products.

Oh and with regards to the safety comments, I don't know where you guys are getting your information from but this car is heavy for a reason. Please people use your heads. Also any car can be made to handle great or go like stink, the only one draw back against the eclipse is FWD. Other than that I'd pit my 3G against my RX-8 any day with the mods I have done.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l244/Niteryd/100_1772.jpg




All i see are comments of your opinion and your personal experience. I had a previous 96 GST eclipse and that was the worst mistake i ever made. The car was terribly unreliable, yours, maybe you got a winner on your hands, but the majority of mitsu cars do not last. Open your consumer reports books and read it for yourself, from the first eclipse to the last, there not reliable cars.

As far as this topic, as getting a convertable, I would rather opt for a S2000 (if your not over 6'-3") you can get those for nearly nothing, A Bmw Z3, or maybe even looking into getting a early 2000 C5 convertable vette this way you have power, handeling, looks all wrapped into one package.

IMO.... and it is my opinion.... the new eclipse is fugly, but hey that is my opinion.

P.S..also what happens when you put your modded eclipse against a modded RX-8? Clearly now modded vs stock isn't fair..... sure you made your eclipse to the bar of the RX-8, but when the 8 gets mods to it, that bar gets raised higher, leaving you to strive again to match the performance of the 8 , and i am not just talking speed wise, i am talking as a whole.

^^^^ Right on. I've read enough of the bashing of the past generation Eclipse, and my close friend has an 03 Eclipse GT. He beats the living snot out of that car too, and it shows no signs of failure. If I drove my Speed 6 the way he drives his Eclipse, you can bet your behind I'd have a failing car before too long. I wish my former RX8 and current Speed 6 could handle what that car can handle. It's actually more solid and durable, and I hate admitting it, but it's true. It has gotten ripped apart, but the fact is, it's a darn good car that's very well built, and built to last. I have little doubt the same rule applies to the new Eclipse.



There is also a thing called abusive driving and agressive driving habbits. What you may think is "beating the snot" out of car is just agressive driving skill. I "beat the snot" as you say out of my 05 RX-8. 47k miles since new and not a single problem with my rotary engine or tranny. Now if i was abusive, the car wouldn't have last me past 10k miles.

In matter of fact , every car i owned , i "beat the snot" out of. And the ones that i kept past the 150k mark lasted me well beyond the 225k mark(usually i sell cars that i owned at the milage for some reason) with my agressive driving style. As long as you do regualr maitnance(which i do), you can "beat the snot" out of your car and have peace of mind.


I suggest you beat the snot out of your MS6 as well, lord knows anything badged Mazdaspeed is begging to get driven really hard.

All i see are comments of your opinion and your personal experience. I had a previous 96 GST eclipse and that was the worst mistake i ever made. The car was terribly unreliable, yours, maybe you got a winner on your hands, but the majority of mitsu cars do not last. Open your consumer reports books and read it for yourself, from the first eclipse to the last, there not reliable cars.

As far as this topic, as getting a convertable, I would rather opt for a S2000 (if your not over 6'-3") you can get those for nearly nothing, A Bmw Z3, or maybe even looking into getting a early 2000 C5 convertable vette this way you have power, handeling, looks all wrapped into one package.

IMO.... and it is my opinion.... the new eclipse is fugly, but hey that is my opinion.

P.S..also what happens when you put your modded eclipse against a modded RX-8? Clearly now modded vs stock isn't fair..... sure you made your eclipse to the bar of the RX-8, but when the 8 gets mods to it, that bar gets raised higher, leaving you to strive again to match the performance of the 8 , and i am not just talking speed wise, i am talking as a whole.

Almost all I've seen throughout this entire post is comments and opinions, most of which are completely unfounded. I have nothing to prove to you, I know its a reliable auto and that Mitsu makes a good product (I've owned several). Last time I checked Consumer Reports gives the eclipse good reliability marks so I don't know where you are coming up with your information. Maybe you should go do little research, here's a great site a lot like this one www.club3g.com, oh and "search" is you friend there as well.

Oh and as for the 4G eclipse being such a crappy car, doesn't seem to be what the automotive press is saying. Last I checked none of them have had nothing but praise and no issues/problems to have fixed.

There is also a thing called abusive driving and agressive driving habbits. What you may think is "beating the snot" out of car is just agressive driving skill. I "beat the snot" as you say out of my 05 RX-8. 47k miles since new and not a single problem with my rotary engine or tranny. Now if i was abusive, the car wouldn't have last me past 10k miles.

In matter of fact , every car i owned , i "beat the snot" out of. And the ones that i kept past the 150k mark lasted me well beyond the 225k mark(usually i sell cars that i owned at the milage for some reason) with my agressive driving style. As long as you do regualr maitnance(which i do), you can "beat the snot" out of your car and have peace of mind.


I suggest you beat the snot out of your MS6 as well, lord knows anything badged Mazdaspeed is begging to get driven really hard.


I completely agree with you here.

wow 3 pages.... I didnt think this would such as a controversial discussion.

well The dealer gave me such a good offer $24567 out the door tax included.
I did look into the S2k, the Z and others but for the price I just purchased my eclipse spyder.
I traded my 03 jetta so it worked out great.

This will be my second eclipse. While i was a teen I owned a 95 gs eclipse i bought it almost brand new.... yet I do sympathise with those who think mitsubishi reliability isnt too good because i had soo many problems with that car, glad i had warranty.
well this car feels great and i hope mitsubishi has gotten better. but I am not too concerned because i have the warranty :).

This car is mostly for my lady and the family in General. I woulnt TRADE my 8 for the world. I have a Greddy kit just waititng to go in!! ;)

anyway thank you all for the help i'll get some pics when i can

PS: for the record i think all these car are just great but people dont compare the 8 with other cars that arent in the same category. It matters only what you like. And its what you make out of that car what counts.

There is also a thing called abusive driving and agressive driving habbits. What you may think is "beating the snot" out of car is just agressive driving skill. I "beat the snot" as you say out of my 05 RX-8. 47k miles since new and not a single problem with my rotary engine or tranny. Now if i was abusive, the car wouldn't have last me past 10k miles.

In matter of fact , every car i owned , i "beat the snot" out of. And the ones that i kept past the 150k mark lasted me well beyond the 225k mark(usually i sell cars that i owned at the milage for some reason) with my agressive driving style. As long as you do regualr maitnance(which i do), you can "beat the snot" out of your car and have peace of mind.


I suggest you beat the snot out of your MS6 as well, lord knows anything badged Mazdaspeed is begging to get driven really hard.


I thought nothing of the sort. When I say BEATING THE SNOT OUT OF A CAR, I don't mean agressive driving. SHEESH!!!! ;) Not sure why you felt the need to respond to what I wrote. It was a story and an opinion. I won't let him touch my car because of how he drives. He launches the piss out of it all the time, revs it to all hell constantly, but somehow, that Eclipse can take all that abuse and still go. Even he can't believe it's held up. No need to argue this. I just think the car can handle more abuse. Doesn't mean I'd own one or I think it's a better car.

I drive my cars agressively, but I don't hard launch them and squeal my tires at every traffic light, and rev to redline nearly every time like he does, while pounding the gears and shifting very very hard. Somehow his Eclipse can take all this abuse. Maybe his car is a freak of nature, but I know a Mazdaspeed 6 clutch and tranny cannot handle what he does to that car, and I don't think the engine can either. I've read about the 3.0 engines in the last generation Eclipse. They are virtually bulletproof. Again, just an opinion, so don't argue it.

I just don't see this car as being as strong and durable like my STI was. I'd love to be wrong, but something tells me I'm not. I don't trust modifying it like I did my STI, because I feel like the car is built near it's peak allowance for HP. Still though, it's great car and I love it. ;)

wow 3 pages.... I didnt think this would such as a controversial discussion.

well The dealer gave me such a good offer $24567 out the door tax included.
I did look into the S2k, the Z and others but for the price I just purchased my eclipse spyder.
I traded my 03 jetta so it worked out great.

This will be my second eclipse. While i was a teen I owned a 95 gs eclipse i bought it almost brand new.... yet I do sympathise with those who think mitsubishi reliability isnt too good because i had soo many problems with that car, glad i had warranty.
well this car feels great and i hope mitsubishi has gotten better. but I am not too concerned because i have the warranty :).

This car is mostly for my lady and the family in General. I woulnt TRADE my 8 for the world. I have a Greddy kit just waititng to go in!! ;)

anyway thank you all for the help i'll get some pics when i can

PS: for the record i think all these car are just great but people dont compare the 8 with other cars that arent in the same category. It matters only what you like. And its what you make out of that car what counts.

That's great! You made the right choice. That is one hell of a deal. Almost makes me wanna trade my Speed 6 in for one, but I don't need two convertibles. hehe. Congrats, and enjoy your new SWEET ride. For that price, it's simply an AMAZING car for the money. Probably an even better deal then the Speed 6 had, because it's a convertible. Gotta love it. You DEFINITELY made the right choice, and you didn't let the partial haters persuade you in your decision. You got what you wanted, and that's what it's all about. ;)

All i see are comments of your opinion and your personal experience. I had a previous 96 GST eclipse and that was the worst mistake i ever made. The car was terribly unreliable, yours, maybe you got a winner on your hands, but the majority of mitsu cars do not last. Open your consumer reports books and read it for yourself, from the first eclipse to the last, there not reliable cars.

Just FYI, if you "open up your consumer reports" for 2006 you'll see that Mitsubishi has 2 cars in the "Most Reliable" list of 47 total cars -- Mazda has none. Oddly enough, the Eclipse is one of those two cars.

People are so incomprehensively ignorant towards Mitsubishi and it's depressing.

Just FYI, if you "open up your consumer reports" for 2006 you'll see that Mitsubishi has 2 cars in the "Most Reliable" list of 47 total cars -- Mazda has none. Oddly enough, the Eclipse is one of those two cars.

People are so incomprehensively ignorant towards Mitsubishi and it's depressing.

I am not taking about 2006,hell any new car will fair well,look at the past eclipses.

Just FYI, if you "open up your consumer reports" for 2006 you'll see that Mitsubishi has 2 cars in the "Most Reliable" list of 47 total cars -- Mazda has none. Oddly enough, the Eclipse is one of those two cars.

People are so incomprehensively ignorant towards Mitsubishi and it's depressing.

I am not taking about 2006,hell any new car will fair well,look at the past generation eclipses.

i just saw one on the FDR drive on my way to work. The new Eclipse spyder looks pretty cool. I like pretty much all of the Eclipse models Mitsu has put out. Enjoy it...driving a convertible in summer time is one of the most fun motoring experiences you can have!

I am not taking about 2006,hell any new car will fair well,look at the past eclipses.

You said "from the first Eclipse to the last". As far as I know, the 2006 is considered the current model. Don't make statements that are false and that you can't backup with any proof of any kind.

You said "from the first Eclipse to the last". As far as I know, the 2006 is considered the current model. Don't make statements that are false and that you can't backup with any proof of any kind.

Well it looks like i got my work cut out for me then, i got go through my old consumer report books.

I liked the previous body better than this new one. this new one is just fugly.

The only Mitsu one should buy is the new Lancer EVO X. It looks nice as a 4dr sedan.

my coworker has a eclipse spyder,
he recently asked me what mods he should do cuz he says the car feels like its going to tip over when he corners....he seriously fears his car will flip over one of these days if he doesnt do something soon.

i would equate that to handling like a boat

The best Eclipse was the first and second generations.

Here is something to think about: All those cars that you picked are 2seaters, except for the eclipse. Insurance would be lower.

my coworker has a eclipse spyder,
he recently asked me what mods he should do cuz he says the car feels like its going to tip over when he corners....he seriously fears his car will flip over one of these days if he doesnt do something soon.

i would equate that to handling like a boat


I'd have to drive one to see how bad it is. I'm assuming he's totally used to a lighter, more nimble car, so it's embelished. The Eclipse is nor light or nimble. It's muscle, luxury, and sport, combined with the year round practicality of FWD.

My Mazdaspeed 6 feels exactly to me as your co-worker describes his Eclipse Spyder. When lets say I drive my S2000 for a week straight, and then I hop in my Speed 6, I feel the exact same way your co-worker feels, so that could be the problem. The car sways through the corners, and the driving confidence just isn't there. However, if I never owned an RX8, an S2000 or an STI, I'd probably think the Speed 6 would be a pretty nice handler. It is a nice handler for it's big and heavy size, but the S2000 makes it feel like one giant BOAT. ;)

I drove the 2006 Eclipse GT V6 and is it an absolute piece of shit.

Horrible brakes, horrible handling, horrible torque steer.

The engine is a gem though, power everywhere and you REALLY get pushed back in your seat. The shifter is good too.

But it's an amazingly unbalanced car...

Mind you I drive a 2003 S2000, but there's a minimum when it comes to a car's handling.

Get a 2006 S2000 with like 1000 miles for about 27k. It will be brand new with a good warranty! S2000s are bulletproof reliability wise, just don't launch it.

Comparing an S2000 to an Eclipse V6 convertible...They could not be more different cars.

I say if you MUST have a brand new car get a Miata. But for the same price you can have a used S2000 with less than 5000 miles and it has better brakes, better shifter, 70 more HP and better tires. You call;)

Heres what consumer reports had to say about the newest Eclipse in a pinch. It didn't fair well as expected.....

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/ConsumerReportsSnapshot.aspx?year=2007&make=Mitsubishi&model=Eclipse

Heres what consumer reports had to say about the newest Eclipse in a pinch. It didn't fair well as expected.....

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/ConsumerReportsSnapshot.aspx?year=2007&make=Mitsubishi&model=Eclipse

Everyone knows the 4-cylinder isn't a good buy. And moreover, this article even states that the reliability is above average and it even finished "Good" or better in every category shown.