Now we all know that this car isnt all peaches and cream. Theres a sticky above showing the positives of the car but in reality, there are also negatives. What little thing dont u like about the car that u wished mazda would have improved on? For me its:

1-Climate control where every position except the front vents get a/c wether u like it
or not
2-The fuel consumption
3-closing the windows/sunroof requires u to hold the button down instead of auto.
4-The heated seats really dont get that heated compared to other manufacturers.
5-The trunk doesnt open aTl the way when u press trunk release button.
6-The head unit is integrated into the dash leaving u no options for an after market
stereo

Anyone else like to contribute to this list?

I wish I could be positive and add things to your list, but the sad truth is there's not much I don't like about the car! (And my heated seats get plenty toasty.) The one thing I'd love to have are real, functioning gauges for engine coolant and, especially, oil pressure.

6-The head unit is integrated into the dash leaving u no options for an after market
stereo


Not true anymore.

http://corksport.com/content/00/01/06/61/73/userimages/DIN-2.jpg

#1 item: Douchebag newbies who don't know anything about the car coming into this forum and asking stupid questions about the car.

Add on to your list:

- Transporter tie-down points under the car just ahead of the rear axle that scrape on car wash tracks.
- The stupidest/most poorly designed sunvisors known to man.
- Having a car that requires frequent oil checks and additions with a buried dipstick and hidden filler tube.
- The "flat fix" kit that actually ruins the tire.

Oh, there's a few more but ...

That said, I really do love driving my car and love how it looks. I think I'll wax it today. :)

#1 item: Douchebag newbies who don't know anything about the car coming into this forum and asking stupid questions about the car.

:)

#2 item

People on the outside who don't get the obsession with this car. The shake their heads and look at me as if I've lost my mind....

The oil dipstick has to be #1 stupid design with the sun visors a close second.
Placement of the seat heater switches ensures that I'll turn then on once in a while by accident.
The lame HVAC system is on the list.

These become quirks in a lovable car...

I hate it when people moan and whine all over this forum and make it look like the 8 is a POS to any noobs that come here.

1-Climate control where every position except the front vents get a/c wether u like it
or not
2-The fuel consumption
3-closing the windows/sunroof requires u to hold the button down instead of auto.
4-The heated seats really dont get that heated compared to other manufacturers.
5-The trunk doesnt open aTl the way when u press trunk release button.
6-The head unit is integrated into the dash leaving u no options for an after market
stereo

Anyone else like to contribute to this list?

I would say that only one of the things you have listed has any real effect to the driving experience, and that would be the fuel consumption. Does it really annoy you that the windows / sunroof button do not have an "auto close" feature? It just means you have to hold the button for 5 seconds instead of one.

And what do you mean about #1? That's one I don't understand.

#1 item: Douchebag newbies who don't know anything about the car coming into this forum and asking stupid questions about the car.


I'm starting to notice that you have a severe anger problem. I would say 50% of the posts by you are filled with rage. I think a psychiatrist is in order....

:
1-Climate control where every position except the front vents get a/c wether u like it
or not
2-The fuel consumption
3-closing the windows/sunroof requires u to hold the button down instead of auto.
4-The heated seats really dont get that heated compared to other manufacturers.
5-The trunk doesnt open aTl the way when u press trunk release button.
6-The head unit is integrated into the dash leaving u no options for an after market
stereo


I don't understand what you mean by #1. One thing I don't like about the heater controls is that the settings of the knobs are hard to see. Could use a bigger mark, or maybe a light.

That's pretty much the only thing about the car that brought a "Yuck" instead of a "Wow!"

#2 - too bad. The numbers are written big on a sticker in the window.
#3 - safety deal. Can't have stuff close automatically. AFAIK, no car in the US does that. Too many toddlers get strangled by windows as it is.
#4 - don't have heated seats in mine. Eat lots of beans, keep your tush warm naturally.
#5 - most cars don't do that these days. It's a shame, because that's how I used to find rental cars in parking lots.
#6 - the radio is good. Why change it? I love the placement of the controls, and the "find six strong stations" feature.

Ken

Now we all know that this car isnt all peaches and cream. Theres a sticky above showing the positives of the car but in reality, there are also negatives. What little thing dont u like about the car that u wished mazda would have improved on? For me its:

1-Climate control where every position except the front vents get a/c wether u like it
or not
2-The fuel consumption
3-closing the windows/sunroof requires u to hold the button down instead of auto.
4-The heated seats really dont get that heated compared to other manufacturers.
5-The trunk doesnt open aTl the way when u press trunk release button.
6-The head unit is integrated into the dash leaving u no options for an after market
stereo

Anyone else like to contribute to this list?


Sell your car NOW.

i have a JDM spec, and the driver's power window can wind up with 1 touch.
i think its some safety restriction for US specs.

btw, the sunroof cant do a 1 touch close either..
But im prety sure there is a way to DIY this.. becos i think 1 touch close sunroof is prety handy.

I agree with most of the previous, especially the short Dipstick.
Needs lighted sunroof switches.
Needs lighted change holder-can't see to find anything in it.
I love the car but they missed some relatively simple usability issues that could easily be fixed.
Oh, and some insulation under the cab would have been an excellent addition that would solve several issues.

Seems like a good list. Of course, Mazda won't fix any of them.

My wife'e CX-9 has 1 touch power up and down windows only on the front doors.
Sunroof will also I believe, but who cares a whit about that shit it is a nice feature but one more thing to F-up later.
I can find a bitch about any car made, that is the nature of tha beast.

Seems like a good list. Of course, Mazda won't fix any of them.

probably.. but if we put our heads together, we could come up with some cool DIYs..

for example, if u have tried to replace the navi screen with an aftermarket like a touch screen, the open /close switches will not work, u cant have auto open on ignition and u cant have auto power on/off when the housing close/open. but ive got some1 that did it for me. every button works like factory,but with touch screen installed.

if u wanna see a short video of it (222KB)pm me yr email.

I'm starting to notice that you have a severe anger problem. I would say 50% of the posts by you are filled with rage. I think a psychiatrist is in order....

Dear Mr. 369 posts:

For some reason, in the past 2-3 months, this board has been filled with morons that are making incredibly stupid questions or making incredibly stupid statements such as "I'm thinking about an RX-8, but I hear the engines only last 30,000 miles" or "I just bought a used '04 RX-8 with 25,000 miles on it, and I want to make sure it makes it to 50,000 miles" or "I just bought an RX-8 and it must have something wrong with it as it went through a quart of oil in just 1000 miles! Do you think Mazda will warranty it?"

Now that many of us 1st and 2nd year of production owners are starting to trade out, the car has hit the secondary market, which appears to be nothing but 17-22 year old ricer wannabes.

No rage, just sick of the new generation of morons. I guess this was meant to be, but in the past 3 months, this website has completely jumped the shark in terms of the quality of the folks visiting it. Those that have the $$$ to buy one new seem to be intelligent and thoughtful and knowledgeable. Those mining the used market for deals, tend not to be.

Just as well that my lease ends in 14 months ...

Stew (a member of this site for 2 years and 11 months, with more than 1600 posts.)

No rage, just sick of the new generation of morons. I guess this was meant to be, but in the past 3 months, this website has completely jumped the shark in terms of the quality of the folks visiting it. Those that have the $$$ to buy one new seem to be intelligent and thoughtful and knowledgeable. Those mining the used market for deals, tend not to be.

Just as well that my lease ends in 14 months ...

Stew (a member of this site for 2 years and 11 months, with more than 1600 posts.)
Completely agree! The RX-8 has come down in price where the board is getting a new demographic that tends to be very much younger, "poorer", and less educated and ill-informed. The teens and early 20's gimme gimme gimme crowd.

I hope they buy something else and get lost.

#3 - safety deal. Can't have stuff close automatically. AFAIK, no car in the US does that. Too many toddlers get strangled by windows as it is.
Ken
I think there are cars that have auto close sunroofs. VWs have the dial sunroofs and when you twist to the close mark it just closes all the way.

How about a gas cap holder? I put some high quality velcro on it.

My wife'e CX-9 has 1 touch power up and down windows only on the front doors.
Sunroof will also I believe, but who cares a whit about that shit it is a nice feature but one more thing to F-up later.
I can find a bitch about any car made, that is the nature of tha beast.

The other two cool things that would be nice are auto headlights and wipers, like on the cx-9.

Take it easy. I find what you said really offensive. Though it might be true, it doesn't apply to everyone. I am 18 years old, but I was a freshmen in highschool when I first heard of the new Mazda sports car; that year I figured I would have enough money by college to afford one.

I doubt that age is really the problem. Anyway, for you "experienced" people here who owned the first cars, was there an rx8club full of smart, knowledgeable, wise, and helpful members when the rx8 first came out? I bet it took a while, and now that there is a huge resource, people of course will flock to it for easy answers. These guys new to the cars, whether they be old or new, just weren't around for all the initial and subsequent Q&A that has already happened.

Just ignore, or ban, and keep the GOOD threads alive damnit (smiley face)

Take it easy. I find what you said really offensive. Though it might be true, it doesn't apply to everyone. I am 18 years old, but I was a freshmen in highschool when I first heard of the new Mazda sports car; that year I figured I would have enough money by college to afford one.

I doubt that age is really the problem. Anyway, for you "experienced" people here who owned the first cars, was there an rx8club full of smart, knowledgeable, wise, and helpful members when the rx8 first came out? I bet it took a while, and now that there is a huge resource, people of course will flock to it for easy answers. These guys new to the cars, whether they be old or new, just weren't around for all the initial and subsequent Q&A that has already happened.

Just ignore, or ban, and keep the GOOD threads alive damnit (smiley face)

OK, well since you're such a pro, then you get to be the "head of the noobs" and tell all of them to stop being such idiots and making broad, generalized, know it all statements about the car, when they don't know dick about it.

I hate it when people moan and whine all over this forum and make it look like the 8 is a POS to any noobs that come here.

I am going to agree with this one

Take it easy. I find what you said really offensive. Though it might be true, it doesn't apply to everyone. I am 18 years old, but I was a freshmen in highschool when I first heard of the new Mazda sports car; that year I figured I would have enough money by college to afford one.

I doubt that age is really the problem. Anyway, for you "experienced" people here who owned the first cars, was there an rx8club full of smart, knowledgeable, wise, and helpful members when the rx8 first came out? I bet it took a while, and now that there is a huge resource, people of course will flock to it for easy answers. These guys new to the cars, whether they be old or new, just weren't around for all the initial and subsequent Q&A that has already happened.

Just ignore, or ban, and keep the GOOD threads alive damnit (smiley face)
Offensive? You offend easily.

Maybe these noobs should read and use search? It is not like the Q&A's disappeared into the Bermuda Triangle.

#1. my car uses diesel..

The problem with this thread is that it exists at all. I'm not saying it doesn't have a right to be here; of course it does. But it's terribly misleading. The classic "little things" thread that someone started ages ago makes sense, because it reflects a true insight about the RX-8: there are many, many wonderful and subtle "little things" that are not obvious about the car, but when you do notice them, they make you feel really good about owning an 8. And they're mostly unique to the RX-8. What's more, the subtle positive "little things" are completely consistent with the 8's personality, which is all about a kind of subtle pleasure, for lack of a better term. The smoothness of the Renesis, the scalpel-like handling, the balance, the amazing agility—unlike sheer hp and torque, these are subtle qualities that kind of define the car's personality.

Having a thread titled "The annoying little things," while logical, is very misleading, because it strongly suggests—erroneously—that everyone knows there are lots of annoying little things about the car. Of course there are some, as with any car but, while all cars have things we like and dislike about them, the 8 has so many surprising "little things" that separate it from other cars. It's those delightful and unexpected "little things" that make the 8 the unique car it is. So IMHO, "the annoying little things" is NOT simply a list of negatives to balance the "little things" list of positives—it's merely a list of niggling complaints. Yes, every car has "annoying little things," but not many have the "little things" the RX-8 has.

Just my 2¢.

Stew's a dick. He's a dick to everyone, so just ignore him. I saw a picture of him, and if I looked like he does, I'd be pretty angry with the world as well.

The useless front cup holders.

I love my 8, but no car is perfect. I have a minor gripe with the heater control. I think the detents are too far apart. There are times when one click is too much, so I have to carefully position the control knob between clicks. Perhaps I'm nitt-picking, but why not keep refining a great car?

1.3L

Stew's a dick. He's a dick to everyone, so just ignore him. I saw a picture of him, and if I looked like he does, I'd be pretty angry with the world as well.

not at all, he calls them as he sees them.. nothing wrong with that.. garbage in garbage out.

and i have to admint that the newbs answering the newbs with the wrong info is just to funny... harsh yes, but you get what you pay for.. if you take the time the info is there..

beers :beer:

not at all, he calls them as he sees them.. nothing wrong with that.. garbage in garbage out.

and i have to admint that the newbs answering the newbs with the wrong info is just to funny... harsh yes, but you get what you pay for.. if you take the time the info is there..

beers :beer:

I disagree with you here. There are ways you can react to certain comments. People coming on here and asking questions is normal, and everyone tries to help each other out. Who cares if the question has been asked before? If you have such a problem with a particular thread then don't read it. It's as simple as that.

Stew just takes it to a new level. He insults everyone, and considers himself smarter than most on this forum. check one of the other posts he recently put up today.....he's talking about how "smart" he is in regards to the rotary, and talks about his knowledge like he invented it. Talk about cocky and arrogant.

[QUOTE=TRUOMEGA;1907560]Now we all know that this car isnt all peaches and cream. Theres a sticky above showing the positives of the car but in reality, there are also negatives. What little thing dont u like about the car that u wished mazda would have improved on? For me its:

1-Climate control where every position except the front vents get a/c wether u like it
or not
2-The fuel consumption
3-closing the windows/sunroof requires u to hold the button down instead of auto.
4-The heated seats really dont get that heated compared to other manufacturers.
5-The trunk doesnt open aTl the way when u press trunk release button.
6-The head unit is integrated into the dash leaving u no options for an after market
stereo




a stab.

1 read owners manual now, and before you buy a car.
2 move away from the city.. 72k miles here. mpg ave 21mpg
3 if you know a lawyer kick him or her in the nuts or the axe wound.
4 ? you have so got the wrong car if that is important.
5 see ? 4 are you that lazy?
6 k corksport has one, but if you did your reseach before you got the car?


i will give you a fault in the car... the door holder opener things suck.. dont keep the door open on level ground.. i cant imagine what happens in the hills or mountians..

crh are you listening..

beers :beer:

I disagree with you here. There are ways you can react to certain comments. People coming on here and asking questions is normal, and everyone tries to help each other out. Who cares if the question has been asked before? If you have such a problem with a particular thread then don't read it. It's as simple as that.

Stew just takes it to a new level. He insults everyone, and considers himself smarter than most on this forum. check one of the other posts he recently put up today.....he's talking about how "smart" he is in regards to the rotary, and talks about his knowledge like he invented it. Talk about cocky and arrogant.


now i agree and disagree with that, but i will let it go back to the topic. i should not have strayed..

beers :beer:

the visor is useless when flipped to cover the driver's side window. I've been meaning to ask if there is any trick to deal with it.

The original thread was made to combat all the whining about problems on this thread. Is this he mother of all reposts then?

The original thread was made to combat all the whining about problems on this thread. Is this he mother of all reposts then?

almost everything is a repost now.. thats what makes it fun...

beers :beer:

That sounds like a good thread topic. I think I'll start one called..."The mother of all Reposts!!"

I disagree with you here. There are ways you can react to certain comments. People coming on here and asking questions is normal, and everyone tries to help each other out. Who cares if the question has been asked before? If you have such a problem with a particular thread then don't read it. It's as simple as that.

Stew just takes it to a new level. He insults everyone, and considers himself smarter than most on this forum. check one of the other posts he recently put up today.....he's talking about how "smart" he is in regards to the rotary, and talks about his knowledge like he invented it. Talk about cocky and arrogant.
You're inane.

i will give you a fault in the car... the door holder opener things suck.. dont keep the door open on level ground.. i cant imagine what happens in the hills or mountians..

crh are you listening..

beers :beer:


crh should invent something to keep the doors from closing and slamming into someone's leg. got a bruise on my leg to prove it. first and only time i ever cursed at my rx8.

Stew has his issues, the noobs are taking over, but the forums need to be cleaned up. Too much unecessary shit going, too many RX8 vs 350z threads, too many oil threads, too many e-egos getting all butt hurt, etc. Then the lounge is a leghumping fest and whatnot. Doesn't make the forums as attractive as it once was, or at least the General forums.

crh should invent something to keep the doors from closing and slamming into someone's leg. got a bruise on my leg to prove it. first and only time i ever cursed at my rx8.


yep.

beers :beer:

Stew has his issues, the noobs are taking over, but the forums need to be cleaned up. Too much unecessary shit going, too many RX8 vs 350z threads, too many oil threads, too many e-egos getting all butt hurt, etc. Then the lounge is a leghumping fest and whatnot. Doesn't make the forums as attractive as it once was, or at least the General forums.
Agree about the forum. Some more vigilant oversight is needed and a lot more thread closings needed as well.

This thread fails on so many levels.

Can you list those levels?

Damnit, where's Twink and the cats when you need'em

There is a wealth of knowledge here, it's just buried deep.

Personally, I would never even venture into the Lounge if I didn't have to - it's just totally irrelevant (by definition), and about as entertaining as Facebook.....

There is a general tightening of standards taking place, the abuse of noobs is becoming serious, the tone of replies to (simple) questions needs to change, and some attitudes may need adjustment along the way.:crazy:

(Any comments made by this doofus do not reflect the position of site management....S)

Im not gonna sell my car based on these minor quirks and certainly not because someone said to. I knew that they were there when i bought the car and it did not deter me from buying one. If anything, this thread could be useful to people before they buy the car. Maybe they will find something here that they wont like about the car and not purchase it instead of buying it then posting "i hate this car because: the dipstick is to short, the trunk doesnt open all the way up, the visor isnt worth a dam", etc...... As it appears alot of members prefer that than having someone not purchase the car or be a member for that matter.
Inevitably, People here will eventually leave this community and then what will this forum be withought new members whether they ask lame questions or not? It will diminish to just a small handfull of people that will talk about how crappy there day was and have no comments about the car. At that point, admin would may have well change the forum name from rx8club.com to howwasurcrappyday.com.
So back to the basics. There r some factors that i would have hoped Mazda improved on such as items in my list. Perhaps when the new gen Mazda rotary comes out someone from there design team would have "glanced" at this post.. perhaps not. Who knows? As with any car, the rx8 certainly isnt perfect and granted, every single imperfection posted here can be improved on with time and money. Some people dont have the money nor the technical skills nor the time to resolve any of these issues where as some do but For example, the head unit.... u can buy an after market part that u can incorporate an after market head unit but on top of the cost for a new stereo ull have to spend nearly 500 dollars to buy the adapter so as an improvement, i would have hoped Mazda would have made a head unit that is interchangeable with after market radios. That was my mere implication when this thread started. Not that it cant be done rather that its a shame they didnt.
This forum is not here to reign over your guidelines as to what and what not to post. That task is placed on the admin (which by the way does a great job of keeping this forum going). This isnt the first forum iv been a member of as Iv been on it for over 6 months doing research but registerd 6 months ago. Im not a noob to forums although i may be considered a noob to this particular one and this certainly isnt a noob type of thread.
This thread is here to help members find out about the car in detail and/or for sheer curiosity to others. Things that a potential buyer may have missed when test driving it or researching. Its alot easier looking at one thread rather than spending hours to find an X amount of individual threads talking about 1 particular thing.
As many of us do, Im sure we see posts that are distasteful to us or have been discussed before. If i know the answer i would repost to assist but if i cant help the member I for one just dont contribute rather than posting "use search, this topic has been discussed 100 times, ur an idiot, sell ur car, i dont know, or remarks of that nature. Theres no need to make lame ass comments like that as they are useless information and some of which r unrealistic. Who knows? maybe other new members may have the same question and couldnt find the answer in search but are affraid to get bashed if they do post? Could be that he/she finds an easier solution on there own to a problem with the car where they were turned away over here and that being the case, Why would someone want to contribute there findings when they were treated so poorly on this forum? (an unlikely far fetched situation but...) "Hey guys, i found a way to increase low end torque by 20%, heres the results from the dyno. It took me 1 hour of work and the added part only cost me 50 dollars. But why the hell am i gonna share my findings with u guys who called me an idiot and wouldnt assist?"
If u want to be an upstanding member in which people will take value on ur comments and opinions then post a more constructive thread that will benefit others.

^^ I don't even have the patience to read this jumbled mess.

I, like most people, am a member of a bunch of different forums; RX8 club, Jeep forums, Gun forums, etc. The problem here isn't noobs coming in and ruining it, or people asking dumb questions. The problem is that the RX8 forum has so little to talk about.

As crazy as that idea sounds, it's true. We argue about stupid small shit and feel bad for each other when the dealership won't pay for our repairs out of boredom. We talk about the same mods over and over again, we repost dumb videos until the entire world has seen them.

Our cars have been around for barely 4 years and quite honestly there's not too much to say about them compared to guys that have been wrenching on their Jeeps for the past 60 years, or collecting guns since the 1940's.

Our cars don't break as much, we don't have to rely on each other as much, and we aren't constantly looking for help to fix everything that's broken. Face it, 75% of the material on this site is probably repost or already covered material.

To those of you who have post counts in the thousands and brag about it as if they're the Einstein of the Eight, screw off. I personally, while respecting the fact that they may be knowledgable about the subject at hand, do not look up to a person who hides behind a high post count and a computer.

Sick of the noobs asking dumb questions? Don't answer. More importantly, quit the flaming shit. It just makes you look like an ass.

There's a time and place for everything. Grow up, everyone. Let's do what we came here to do. Have fun and help each other out.

:soapbox: Ok. I think I'm done. Can someone give me a hand down from here....thanks.

^ Agreed. Forums are not and never have been good, organized collections of information about anything. People need to lighten up -- n00bs aren't ruining anything. Post something funny, informative, or at the very least coherent and logical or don't bother responding.

i love it when members think that noobs are taking over and there are too many repeating threads. It's an internet forum, not YOUR internet forum. This site hasn't jumped the shark, new people are buying cars, life goes on and whether you were a member of this site or not (or whether you have 1 post or 5000) this site would continue uninterupted if you never joined (or decided to leave.)

Everyone should stop thinking they're so important.

i love it when members think that noobs are taking over and there are too many repeating threads. It's an internet forum, not YOUR internet forum. This site hasn't jumped the shark, new people are buying cars, life goes on and whether you were a member of this site or not (or whether you have 1 post or 5000) this site would continue uninterupted if you never joined (or decided to leave.)

Everyone should stop thinking they're so important.

thank you.

The only thing I can say that is annoying about my car is that the doors have a small rattle it seems to be where they meet. It's really quite, but just one of the things you notice. Also, the steering wheel is really close to the seat even when all the way up, I am not too short (5'11"), but with how far the seat needs to be forward it makes it hard to get in and out. Especially if I park 2" from a curb to stay away from other cars.

I would have to agree. I do use the close steering wheel to my advantage when exiting the car though. I use it as leverage (SP) to propel out of the car so I don't wear down my seat bolster.

I know....it's really stupid.....

Stew's a dick. He's a dick to everyone, so just ignore him. I saw a picture of him, and if I looked like he does, I'd be pretty angry with the world as well.

Aw, Husky, why the bad buzz here? Is it just because I pointed out more than a few times that you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to the RX-8?

For the record:

1) I am a dick - a mean, fat, bald old bastard, married 21 years with 3 kids, who drives RX-8s just to make all the little 22 year old ashwipes who buy them used think "CRAP, it's an old bald-man's car!

2) I will mercilessly point out when anyone is talking BS and point out the REAL world based upon owning 4 rotary-powered cars in my lifetime, AND having owned this one from brand new, over 3 years of use and 35,000 miles.

Husky, I've read all your posts that you put up putting the bash on me. A few of them had points - my tone has not been appropriate of late.

So, make you a deal: you stop giving out unfounded advice to the noobs coming into the site and I'll quit firing nuclear missles at the idoits in here and instead just stick to pointing out where people have the story wrong. Which, by the way, will still paint me as an old fart, a dick, a grumpy old man and about 20 other names that all the wet-behind-the-ears noobs have called me in the last 24 hrs.

But, oh well ... the quest for right information must never be abandoned.

no hard feelings, Stew. Bashing on a forum is stupid and juvenile.....Im sorry I lowered myself.

The advice I give is based upon things that are related to the recommended care Mazda gives the RX-8. The fact of the matter is that Mazda does request a higher octane than 87. I'm sure you can get away with 87, but with a company notorious for poor customer service and warranty issues, I have no doubt that not going by manufacturer's recommendations will be reasoning enough in Mazda USA's eyes to reject a potential warranty claim.

5w20 is also recommended by the manufacturer. No doubt, you can use 5w30 or a greater weight, but I don't see any real advantage.

Other than that, I don't think I have said anything that is not true regarding the 8. If I have, please let me know. I'm always open to criticism, as long as it's done in a respectable manner.

Peace?

Hatchet buried.

The annoying little things...

These types of threads spawned by owner love of the car...geez

Old debates that seem to never die (87 vs 91, dino vs synth, 350z vs RX8 which actually kinda dates back to RX7 vs 280z from 1979).

My car paint is starting to look 4 yrs old (well more like 2 yrs old but it isn't brand new)

All the dumb repeat threads due to not using the search feature

Passenger automated seat missing (yes I realize it was to save $'s and who cares cuz I never ride passenger)

All the hot chicks that check out my ride (I'm married)...

2 annoying things i find in the rx8:

1. doors that won't stay open. you have to open it all the way or hold it to keep it from closing. a little dangerous especially when transporting children.

2. windshield washers that don't help out in cleaning the windshield at all. it doesn't spray, rather it squirts four straight lines of fluid that only reach halfway up the windshield.

*this isn't annoying but could be an improvement: the throw on the shifter. pretty damn long for a sports car.

other than those 2 the car is perfect imo.

FYI on the windshield washers, those are easily aimed.

yo mike...about the shift throw...compared to which other sports cars. Just curious.
I've only driven OEM MT on miata, celica, Jeep, civic, lancer all from early 2000 version so I'm not experienced.

Now Jeep (not a sports car of course) but that there's a long shift throw.

yo mike...about the shift throw...compared to which other sports cars. Just curious.
I've only driven OEM MT on miata, celica, Jeep, civic, lancer all from early 2000 version so I'm not experienced.

Now Jeep (not a sports car of course) but that there's a long shift throw.

Ditto from me. C4 corvette throw was longer, subie was longer, Acura Integra was longer, 95 VW GTI felt like I was rowing a rowboat instead of a transmission. The only car I've ever driven with a shorter shifter stock was my '93 FD (RX7).

I think the shifter is super tight and short stock.:)

At least it isn't that godawful bent shifter that Mustangs used to have.

Shifter is equally short as what you get in a typical high-end sports car - same as the one in an Acura NSX, or other sports machines.

#3 - safety deal. Can't have stuff close automatically. AFAIK, no car in the US does that. Too many toddlers get strangled by windows as it is.

My E46 330 had auto-close windows and sunroof.

Having a car that requires frequent oil checks and additions with a buried dipstick and hidden filler tube.

-jealous stares
-cops that wont let you drive fast
-feeling sorry for 99% of people who drive crappier cars

2 annoying things i find in the rx8:

1. doors that won't stay open. you have to open it all the way or hold it to keep it from closing. a little dangerous especially when transporting children.

2. windshield washers that don't help out in cleaning the windshield at all. it doesn't spray, rather it squirts four straight lines of fluid that only reach halfway up the windshield.

*this isn't annoying but could be an improvement: the throw on the shifter. pretty damn long for a sports car.

other than those 2 the car is perfect imo.

You're kidding...?

You're kidding...?

While I do not agree with him, I can see where he's coming from.

I had a 2002 Mits Eclipse RS MT as my last car. All I did was switch the shift knob around (didn't touch the shifter at all), and it had a much shorter throw than the RX-8. The throw was great

In comparison to some of the other sports cars out there, though (Mustang and Corvette come to mind), I think the throw is much shorter. The shifters in these types of cars look like giant boners sticking out of the console.

-jealous stares

I used to think the same way you do about people being "jealous", but I don't know if that's really the way most people are. If someone really wanted an RX-8, it's most likely not out of their price range as long as they have somewhat of a decent job.

If we were riding around in a 2007 Corvette Z06 or a Lotus Elise, I can see some jealousy. but I doubt there is much jealousy out there over an 8.

I used to think the same way you do about people being "jealous", but I don't know if that's really the way most people are. If someone really wanted an RX-8, it's most likely not out of their price range as long as they have somewhat of a decent job.

If we were riding around in a 2007 Corvette Z06 or a Lotus Elise, I can see some jealousy. but I doubt there is much jealousy out there over an 8.

Maybe they are whipped by their wife or girlfriend who won't let them buy an impractical car.

Or maybe they have multiple kids.

Or perhaps they already blew their money on a Crossfire and are upside down on the loan.

When I drive my dad's 95 911, I cant stand how long the throw is. It is unbearable. Anyways, if you dont like the throw get a shortshifter. If you dont like it, they have crazy resale values!

Or perhaps they already blew their money on a Crossfire and are upside down on the loan.

lol

Better watch it though....mentioning the crossfire on here couuld get you banned!:mdrmed:

I agree the RX8 shifter has a slightly longer throw than I anticipated. My 05 Mazdaspeed Miata had the shortest and most direct throw of any shifter I have ever had. I could literally flick the shifter from one gear to the otlher with my finger tips.
Fast and not one bit notchy.

I'm sure once I get used to my new 07 VR RX8 MT all will be well. Just picked it up on 6/1 and overall impressed with the car. I've owned 2 Rotarys in the past, so I pretty much knew what to expect.

yo mike...about the shift throw...compared to which other sports cars. Just curious.
I've only driven OEM MT on miata, celica, Jeep, civic, lancer all from early 2000 version so I'm not experienced.

Now Jeep (not a sports car of course) but that there's a long shift throw.

the car that i used to drive before this (rsx s) was shorter. CIVIC Si, s2000, celica gts, evo mr, 02+ m3. just irrititated me that the i upgraded to a better car that has a longer throw than my old car. and, that has a longer throw than a freakin civic.

and that's why the very first thing i bought for my car is an AFE short shifter.

stew - i didn't know it was possible to aim the windshield washers, thanks.

the ones mentioned are all good. the one I haven't seen is how incredibly UNsensitive (in-sensitive? whichever) the turn signal is. damn thing only shuts off automatically on turns 90 degrees or more. Prlly once a month I end up looking like some damn granny rolling down the road for a mile w/my blinker on. well, sort of like granny - if she were doing 10 or 15mph over . . .

and g-dammit this thread seemed to me like a lighthearted one based on OP's post, why all the "sell your car" bs??

^^ I don't even have the patience to read this jumbled mess.

I, like most people, am a member of a bunch of different forums; RX8 club, Jeep forums, Gun forums, etc. The problem here isn't noobs coming in and ruining it, or people asking dumb questions. The problem is that the RX8 forum has so little to talk about.

As crazy as that idea sounds, it's true. We argue about stupid small shit and feel bad for each other when the dealership won't pay for our repairs out of boredom. We talk about the same mods over and over again, we repost dumb videos until the entire world has seen them.

Our cars have been around for barely 4 years and quite honestly there's not too much to say about them compared to guys that have been wrenching on their Jeeps for the past 60 years, or collecting guns since the 1940's.

Our cars don't break as much, we don't have to rely on each other as much, and we aren't constantly looking for help to fix everything that's broken. Face it, 75% of the material on this site is probably repost or already covered material.

To those of you who have post counts in the thousands and brag about it as if they're the Einstein of the Eight, screw off. I personally, while respecting the fact that they may be knowledgable about the subject at hand, do not look up to a person who hides behind a high post count and a computer.

Sick of the noobs asking dumb questions? Don't answer. More importantly, quit the flaming shit. It just makes you look like an ass.

There's a time and place for everything. Grow up, everyone. Let's do what we came here to do. Have fun and help each other out.

:soapbox: Ok. I think I'm done. Can someone give me a hand down from here....thanks.

[gives hand getting down - with a little tear welling up]

^^ *Reads above post, thanks kind sir for the help down, starts to not hate DMC's rims so much*

Looks like the topic started off well and then somehow got diverted....here my post to contribute to the annoying little things

1) The small trunk light that doesn't illumniate anything in the trunk because its being blocked by the spare tire kit. Wish they either had the lighter centered on or have two lights left of the trunk and right of the trunk

2) Lack of the power windows on the rear quarter windows. a bit annoying when it looks like its about to rain or when you close up all your windows to use the A/C on the freeway and realize the rear quarter windows aer still open and there no way to close it unless u stop and get out of the car.

3) I sometimes sit in the passenger front seat and realize that it might sit a bit high and there aren't any adjustments to lower the seat more......have to resort to tilting the back which can reduce space for a rear passenger sitting there.


4) The car being red! hahaha This probably shoudlnt' count, but having the car for 8 months and being pulled over 3x, 2 tickets and 1 verbal warning....new record for my driving record. Last one, cop was just picking on me for no apparent reason other than the fact thats its red and was looking for something to stick me with, luckily i have a clean record for the most part.

5) Lack of Valet key, whats the point of locking the glovebox and centered rear console shelf if the valet has the remote fob with the master key.....never understood it.....i guess its okay if someone breaks in your car and can't access ur glovebox but at the same time, it sucks knowing if u give ur keys to a valet, he can open up ur glovebox if need be.

6) No telescope steering wheel.......kind been spoiled in the past by VW tilt and telescope steering wheels....would give the RX-8 better driving positions for some
people

Thats about it for now. I still love the 8!! :) :Eyecrazy:

^^^^^

i guess you got it used? mine came with a valet key..

beers :beer:

the ones mentioned are all good. the one I haven't seen is how incredibly UNsensitive (in-sensitive? whichever) the turn signal is. damn thing only shuts off automatically on turns 90 degrees or more. Prlly once a month I end up looking like some damn granny rolling down the road for a mile w/my blinker on.

I do this all the time. The other thing is that the click is so faint I can barely hear it so I never notice it's on.

the car that i used to drive before this (rsx s) was shorter. CIVIC Si, s2000, celica gts, evo mr, 02+ m3. just irrititated me that the i upgraded to a better car that has a longer throw than my old car. and, that has a longer throw than a freakin civic.

and that's why the very first thing i bought for my car is an AFE short shifter.

stew - i didn't know it was possible to aim the windshield washers, thanks.

Thx Mike. Didn't mean to get in anyone's face. I was just curious. I haven't driven many cars myself.

I think you can aim all windshield washers on all cars. Can be a lil' tricky and take a few attempts to get 'em as you like. I knew a guy who would point one straight up (missed the windshield completely) to squirt on folks tailgating on the free way.

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^^^^^

i guess you got it used? mine came with a valet key..

beers :beer:

hmm.......no, i actually got it brand new 06 in sept 06.....and even asked the sales guy, do i have a valet key and he like no, only two remote fobs and looked in the brochure and he pointed it out, 2 key remote fobs.

Am i missing a valet key?? I be pissed if they didnt include it if they were suppose to. :banghead: :icon_no2:

hmm.......no, i actually got it brand new 06 in sept 06.....and even asked the sales guy, do i have a valet key and he like no, only two remote fobs and looked in the brochure and he pointed it out, 2 key remote fobs.

Am i missing a valet key?? I be pissed if they didnt include it if they were suppose to. :banghead: :icon_no2:


interesting. maybe that is a new feature on the 06. the 04 came with three keys.. maybe another 06 owner can clear this up..

beers :beer:

The BOSE stereo is a big disappointment. Where's the bass?

Rearward visibilty is sad, not that we spend much time in reverse.

Otherwise, what a great car!

I need to amend my post. It isn't the door rattling, it's the seat. Guess I will fix that this weekend...and I now have no complaints with my 8. <3:)

The BOSE stereo is a big disappointment. Where's the bass?

Rearward visibilty is sad, not that we spend much time in reverse.

Otherwise, what a great car!

I disagree regarding the Bose system. When cranked up to near max (30+) with a decent hitting song, the system really hits hard. I can actually feel it in my chest, like I used to when I had subs in my old car.

I for one am actually impressed by this system.

The BOSE stereo is a big disappointment. Where's the bass?

Rearward visibilty is sad, not that we spend much time in reverse.

Otherwise, what a great car!

Omg.

Try a more pure sports car then, like the S2000. You'll love that rear visibility.

Blind spot requires me to look over my right shoulder.

4 me BOSE gets a 7 out of 10 for an OEM system. Cranked up to 30, the bass gets distorted, but it is an OEM system. I had a kenwood head/infinity components/JL sub/6 chnl PPI amp long ago which was only OK for an aftermkt system. It easily could beat the bose. BOSE speakers are made in mexico. I dont know why people buy BOSE anything.

If I could I would have bought the GT package with out the stereo. But since its there i'll live with it. I think Honda has better OEM systems (they use Alpine head units).

BTW I luv my 8.

The only thing iI think Mazda dropped the ball on is the oil pressure gauge.

Any other "quibbles" that you may have --- you simply need to remember the amazing price this car is offered at --- considering it is a true one- of a kind car.

The only thing I think Mazda dropped the ball on...

You let Mazda hold your balls?