:yelrotflmby faster, at least for now, I mean at draining the bank account balance to zero.
Wheels: Enkei Rp03 18x9.5 +38 1lb heavier than rpf1s in the same size but less weight on the outer edge, they are typically more expensive than rpf1s, but main reason I bought these was I got 4 new for $500.

Tires: New Falken Rt-615s 275/35/18, I’m on the hunt for AD07s if found these will be for sale.

Brake: Racing Brake BBK 13'' + 2-piece rotors all around to compliment. I'll be doing some really interesting comparative testing for RB on these, Stay tuned. Cobalt Friction GTS front, Hawk Hps rears.

Suspension: KW Variant 3 Coilovers independently DA, custom valving done by KWusa. Awesome price via the group buy.

Battery Relocate: I'll be posting up a nice DIY for you guys on how to do this the "proper" way.

-Mark Gaal
#24 STU
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=96608&stc=1
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it's a good thing those Falken 275s are narrow otherwise they'd rub the edge of the rear fender lip with a 38mm offset :stickpoke:

If you would stop being a sandy vagina already and reply to my PM maybe I could play it safe and go with a 265. :boxing_sm

a 265 Advan will rub with 9.5 x 38mm, ask me how I know

I was trying to relax avoid aggravating situations this weekend, not being a SV :p:

and make those pics smaller, geesh :spank:

yawn.

beers :beer:

Polak is the fastest bench racer I know :cwm27:

BTW Swoopey, help me out will ya

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=113020

Polak is the fastest bench racer I know :cwm27:

BTW Swoopey, help me out will ya

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=113020

teamy,

cant help ya. i am following that to learn...

seems as you have figured it out... diy with pics!!!!! and you missed the secret oversteer nut?:spank:

btw. polak is that a brake bleeder in the background.. right now i think i hate you.

you are killing me..

beers :beer:

indeed it is, pressurizes the whole system and pumps brake fluid in the MasterClyinder, alot better than speed bleeders and only 20-30 bucks more.

indeed it is, pressurizes the whole system and pumps brake fluid in the MasterClyinder, alot better than speed bleeders and only 20-30 bucks more.

can i borrow it?

beers :beer:

:yumyum: I envy you!!! looking foward to your review on those KW variants...been having my eye on those for quite awhile now

can i borrow it?
Right after I took the pics I poured the ATE in, so it'd be a little impractical to ship right now, if your in no rush than sure, its only $40-50 on ebay.

Mocked-up the plate that will hold the charging posts and master disconnect today, cut the appropriate lengths of postive wire and attached lugs as well.
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=96736&stc=1

i was kinda kidding.. i have to decide this week to use speedbleeders or buy a bleeder.

beers :beer:

lol, there's no faster copycat on the forum ... :hahano:

lol, there's no faster copycat on the forum ... :hahano:Hey now you used quickcar i used longcre.

Tried my hand at metal fabrication and MIG welding on Friday, not to bad IMHO, should look pretty stock with some flat black grill paint on it.
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=97462&stc=1

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=97463&stc=1

my 1st and 2nd welds ever are left to right.... respectively :spank:

Does anyone make terminal covers that are large enough to cover the oddessys SAE terminals with extensions?

Currently using my valentines day sex dice....

and secondly does anyone foresee this being an issue with the speaker a few inches above it, as in distorting the sound....?

putting it up high defeats the purpose ...

your probably right.... impress me with some dark math/physics...

you can mount it on the roof for all I care ...

How uncharacteristically disobliging of you.

LOL, I seriously considered mounting mine down on the subframe .... :p:

did you go back futher into the trunk depression, or did you mount right by the tire repair kit? I felt like going into the depression would be counterproductive as although its lower, its further from the center....

why not just put it where the tire repair kit is? i took my tire repair kit out right after i got the car :p:

I beg to differ, it is only a few inches higher at this point then if it were possible to mount next to the washer fluid bottle (assuming it could fit). I believe the biggest diiference will come from steering feel/responce/and quickness from the weight no longer being over the front wheels; not from lowering the center of mass in the car by 15-20lbs or so, this wiring weights quite a bit to so i don't know if it will be that much. ...

:bsmeter: A guy with such a finally tuned butt dyno like yourself should be able to put it under the deck and then move it to the spare tire kit location and feel the difference. I suppose you can tell if a coin is heads or tails when you drive over it to. :yelrotflm

Yup and on top of that I could tell you which mint it was.

Sipe how does the MS rear bar mount? To that gold bracket or to the frame that encases the shock tower?
Reason i ask is because if i were to move the battery down to the tire repair kit would that not obstruct both?

it mounts on top of the gold bracket using the same two outer bolts that attach to the chassis

there's not enough room from the trunk floor to the MS bar/mount for the battery to be mounted standing up against the sidewall where the repair kit was located, already looked at that

Mines done except for mounting the battery. I went to put it on the trunk floor behind the right rear passenger seat and several of the mounting holes were lining up with ribbed valleys on the trunk floor. I'll probably use a piece of wood to attach to the trunk floor where needed and then mount the battery holddown on top of it

another consecutive night of only 3 hrs sleep, ugh ... :(

It is a waste of keystrokes to discuss anything with you because you make up your mind without knowing anything about suspension setup. Even if we had the car on the scales and showed how little difference it makes you would not believe. You want to live under the delusion that weight on the front of the car only effects the front of the car.

I sure hope you are smart enough to setup your spanky new coilovers while you have the car on a set of scales. However I think I already know the answer to that, you will just set it to a magical trim height number rather than actually worry about having the corner weights correct.

On top of this you do not even know which battery you have. btw do you still have you washer bottle full of fluid, you car could turn so much better if you drained it. Still have your AC out in front of the car?I plan on having the car on scales buddy.
Of course I’ve drained it of fluid.
AC will be out in time for Nats $ permitting.

I said its the 37lb replacement one.... if you want me to into why I was unsure there was recently an issue with my main 120V fuse, due to one of those portable jumping units, while trying to diagnose the dealer replaced the battery yet again, don't know which he used this time, pretty sure its still the replacement, talk about a waste of keystrokes.

As for not knowing anything about suspension setups, I already told you that "any additional gain" seen from moving that lighter battery to the back is going to be minimal, and even a toss-up but here is my logic behind it.

Why would I want more load on the tires doing the turning? More load = less efficient = i.e. less grip. Under the same logic by moving it to the rear will decrease the grip on the rear wheels; however, it will be proportionally less because the battery will be closer to the center of the car. Further, the car will have a tendency to rotate easier with more weight on the rear end under this same theory, while I want to retain as much grip as possible on the rear end I also want it rotate easier than it does now.

Like I said we could argue day and night keep it going if you want.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=5521

someone go answer this please

it mounts on top of the gold bracket using the same two outer bolts that attach to the chassis

there's not enough room from the trunk floor to the MS bar/mount for the battery to be mounted standing up against the sidewall where the repair kit was located, already looked at that

Mines done except for mounting the battery. I went to put it on the trunk floor behind the right rear passenger seat and several of the mounting holes were lining up with ribbed valleys on the trunk floor. I'll probably use a piece of wood to attach to the trunk floor where needed and then mount the battery holddown on top of it

another consecutive night of only 3 hrs sleep, ugh ... :(Damnit that just made my life a little bit more annoying as I already cut lengths of wire for the grounding wire and to the 250amp AML fuse....

wouldnt more weight mean more grip? id think of it like sliding an eraser across a table top. pushing down on it (adding more "weight" to it) and trying to slide it is harder to do.

wouldnt more weight mean more grip? id think of it like sliding an eraser across a table top. pushing down on it (adding more "weight" to it) and trying to slide it is harder to do.

i think you're right, unless spoilers and wings up to this point have been the biggest scam

IN THE WORLD

Damnit that just made my life a little bit more annoying as I already cut lengths of wire for the grounding wire and to the 250amp AML fuse....

told ya you should of waited till May to cut em :dunno:

apparently he's confused impatience with being faster ... :cwm27:

Grasshopper has much to learn, about patience.

As for the grip theory, i'm sure there is 2 schools of thought, but i maintain that tires operate more efficently with LESS load on them. Think about the types of cars that have the highest "g" rattings, are they heavy or light? Do you think a 300lbs lotus driver will generate a higher 'g' then a 150lb driver in the same lotus?

I've always heard (in FWD cars) that unless your wheels are spinning you cannot make the front end light enough.

KW Variant3s are in without issue, ride height is set to 26'' all around; RacingBrake BBK made for Enkei offset wheels is on with a slight rubbing issue (ball joint) to be fixed later this week; and 18x9.5 +38 and 265 AD07 are on with rubbing in the rear end at 26'' this was cured today with one of these.

DIYs to follow tomorrow.

funny,
glad it is all working. but for some reason that photo just looks like robot dirty......

beers :beer:

didn't need it with my 10.5" wheels, it pays to use the correct offset

you said you have minor rubbing with 10.5s.....
i was just going by the claim that you could fit it 18x9.5 +38 made by Goodwin, all is well now no big deal.

Grasshopper has much to learn, about patience.

As for the grip theory, i'm sure there is 2 schools of thought, but i maintain that tires operate more efficently with LESS load on them. Think about the types of cars that have the highest "g" rattings, are they heavy or light? Do you think a 300lbs lotus driver will generate a higher 'g' then a 150lb driver in the same lotus?
uh, no, the physics are pretty clear: the force of static friction = coefficient of static friction * the downward force (ie, mg), with the relationship tailing off as the force increases due to tire construction and physical constraints of the surface, i imagine. similarly, centripetal force for a turn of radius r = mv^2 / r. if you had enough tire under a tank, so to speak, then it should corner just fine, as both the force required and the force provided are directly proportional to m. :D

changing direction is a whole different ballgame, of course...

:Eyecrazy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centripetal_acceleration

you said you have minor rubbing with 10.5s.....


non-issue, no fender mod required



i was just going by the claim that you could fit it 18x9.5 +38 made by Goodwin, as is well now no big deal.


you mean like these:

http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1597534&postcount=4

http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1636847&postcount=7

http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1637079&postcount=12

http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1741920&postcount=8

http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1621442&postcount=3

http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1781075&postcount=10

http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1700804&postcount=6

:dunno:

uh, no, the physics are pretty clear: the force of static friction = coefficient of static friction * the downward force (ie, mg), with the relationship tailing off as the force increases due to tire construction and physical constraints of the surface, i imagine. similarly, centripetal force for a turn of radius r = mv^2 / r. if you had enough tire under a tank, so to speak, then it should corner just fine, as both the force required and the force provided are directly proportional to m. :D

changing direction is a whole different ballgame, of course...

:Eyecrazy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centripetal_acceleration

Everything looks good on paper, but in the real world tires like to do one thing at a time. For example braking will cause more weight to shift onto the front tires and if you try and turn while your doing this you're not achieving the max potential of grip.

Team could have swore that Brian was running 18x9.5 +38 RpF1s, aw well no biggy.

Brian was running 275 RT-615s, which are narrower ...

Everything looks good on paper, but in the real world tires like to do one thing at a time. For example braking will cause more weight to shift onto the front tires and if you try and turn while your doing this you're not achieving the max potential of grip.
and why would changing the mass of the vehicle affect this effect one way or another?

and why would changing the mass of the vehicle affect this effect one way or another?

Because in the example scenario I just gave, due to the way suspension works less of the mass of a battery sitting in the rear vs. a battery sitting over the front wheels would be transfered to the front wheels doing the braking/turning.

KW Variant3s are in without issue ...

hopefully you won't get protested, because that won't be without issue ...

Also...the offset on the Enkei 9.5's from Goodwin are -45..not -38 :)

Polak did you ever run a better time than the 14.5 you hit?

hopefully you won't get protested, because that won't be without issue ...

What?
As to the 14.5, No... ran it and didn't care to break anything trying to run it again.

I was referring to 13.5.F

polak, what is the brand info for the brake pump you have?

Moton power bleeder universal kit; send me a PM about how to use it there is a trick but once it works its very easy.

Team I'm not breaking that rule.
Edit: Motive.

Moton power bleeder universal kit; send me a PM about how to use it there is a trick but once it works its very easy.



You sure that is not a Motive kit???

really?

F. A hole may be added to an interior body panel to provide access
to the adjustment mechanism on an allowed adjustable shock
absorber. The hole may serve no other purpose, and may not be
added through either the exterior bodywork or a strut bar. Interior
panels are defined to be those pieces which cover the interior of
the vehicle and are accessible from inside the vehicle. They do
not include structural panels, such as wheel wells or inner fenders,
which may also be accessible from inside the car but which
actually form part of the body of the vehicle.

my bad then ....

Still a no team, I may not be better at this whole auto-x thing than you, but i do take prettier pictures so here are some:

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=102502&stc=1&d=1182193024

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=102503&stc=1&d=1182193024

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=102504&stc=1&d=1182193024

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=102505&stc=1&d=1182193024

Don't...

Understand...

crooked picture phenomenon...

Wont be doing my autocrossing this summer as I'm about to ship off to the Middle east for about a year, but I did manage to occupy myself with the battery relocate today.

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=122352&stc=1&d=1213589443
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=122357&d=1213589923
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=122348&stc=1&d=1213589193

See: http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=148448