I have had my Red RX-8 GT for about two weeks. I love it. My wife loves it. My kid loves it. But there are some things I wish it had, or were changed. My list in no particular order:

- a rear wiper. Every morning when I go to the gym the car is covered in dew and I have to wipe it with my hand. Will only be a problem in the spring and fall, but it would be nice to just flick a switch.

- A real climate control where you just set the interior temp.

- Fold down rear seats. The pass through is nice, but doesn't work for wider items.

- Move the cup holders. I hit the water bottle when I shift.

- A map pocket on the drivers seat as well. It would help keep the car neat.

- A better view for little kids in the back seat. My kids love the car, but they miss alot of what goes by them since thay can't see out of the windows.

- Power openers for the back vents. My kids forget to close them, and I can't open them when I am driving.

What improvements do you think the car could use (besides the missing power)?

Hey LL7, I aggree completly with all of your requested suggestions!

And personaly, I'd love the RX-8 to be redesigned into a true fastback and hatchback with fold down rear seats - but as of now the current RX-8 body structure (sadly) will not allow any fold down rear seats due to the v-shaped metal frame behind the backseats that is attached to the top of the center backbone and the sides of the rear C pillar giving us such a wonderful driving and handeling road experience.

I'm also one for Mazda to add a true funtioning guage cluster ... I’d really like to see (as an optional if it can’t be standard) a complete fully functional gage display pack that clearly and accurately shows the normal and abnormal state of things with regards to: engine temperature, voltage/battery (Hey Mazda, there's room right now for a voltage/battery gage that will fit tastefully in the dash by the oil temp gage ...and as of now it's IMHO sorely missing) and oil pressure with an analog speedometer (or some kind of digital indicator that replaces the swing of the needle- maybe some kind of horizontal bar graph under or above the digital speedometer readout screen or else a digital light ring around the edge of the tach gage)!

Or again a fastback version!

:D

Louder redline tone. You can barely hear it, or a flashing red light on the dashboard.

19 volk rims, twin turbo, subwoofers, mazdaspeed bodykit and spoiler, clear corners, strakes, eyelids for headlights

I'd like to see a future 8 as a little sport-stationwagon like the hotter BMW Z or the future SAAB sports car.

Ah... and then there's All-wheel-drive.

I agree about the gauges and set-it-and-forget-it climate control. But thanks Mazda, for keeping costs down.

And sorry, but the sunroof is a little lame. It feels pretty after-market. But costs again.

But really... seriously... that ashtray lid is the cheapest single component on the entire vehicle. And it's RIGHT THERE in the middle of the car. Mazda, please offer an upgrade. Someone, offer an upgrade.

Another necessary accessory I haven't seen yet are cushion inserts for the hole in the seats. My girl friend leans back and hits metal. It's a wonderful looking design feature but...

And there really needs to be insulation in the cup holder. It's great that it'll keep your coffee warm, but it's a very bad place to park your cell phone. By the way, where do you park a cell phone in an 8? I wear cargos and use the right thigh pocket. Little stretch-net-pockets along the tranny tunnel would be good.

But these are really, really niggles. We're picking the fly sh** out of the pepper here. The car is overall awesome. Killer. Genre shattering. The car I'm wishing for above quickly climbs out of my price range. I really think it's great that Mazda made such a terrific machine so affordable.

RM

I'd like to see them move the front cup holders to the doors. One on each, flip down maybe. If anyone has seen the Honda CR-V back doors, you'd catch my drift.

I had the where do I put my cell phone problem.
I bought a holder for my phone that plugs into the cig lighter and it works great

Originally posted by mikeb
.....twin turbo.....I can't believe I'm gonna bring this up cuz it's such a sore subject. Before I even mention it, those who remember the theoretical wars we had with WRX, STI, EVO, G35c, 350Z, etc BEFORE we even got the cars to port in May/June/July? That's where I'm coming from here, not the more recent sore subject, although it's inherently included within this.

OK?

It's gonna need more power. Although most of us are satisfied with whatever it has (2__hp), there are a bunch of would-be buyers if this car could out-piss it's mid 30k competition in this car category. And the competition is not going to sit content where they're at either. Even if it were 250hp, it would be just a bit underpowered to really be in very strong contention right now. Mazda just can't overlook that and I seriously doubt if they will. Turbo/supercharging seems obvious. Whatever.

It should be optional, cuz there are just too many who would not want to spend the extra $ for the extra zoom if they could avoid it, and so, they would be pleased with that.

They have a whole year still to get this done. They're gonna need to do it anyway for the upcoming RX-7 revival. It could be the same powertrain, basically, just in a choice of chasis, really. RX-7, dedicated thoroughbred - or - RX-8, fun, butt-kicking, around-town / highway cruzin' family-style car that it is. Both cars beautifull and powerful. One for the very serious sport-type, the other not quite so, a compromise for the not quite so serious. The RX-8 with the optional low-power version. The RX-7 NOT. It's gotta be an RX-7 or it simply is not.

Relax, I think Mazda did a good thing. This car is a starter kit on the powerside. If you want and need it, it'll be there in the aftermarket. Mazda basically said these exact words in their warm-up marketing releases. But if they put it in there themselves, the car would have gotten too expensive. Come Spring I'm adding power. I'm thinking supercharger, myself. All this chatter about power is certainly lighting fires under the aftermarket developers coast to coast. Sit back and watch 'em go crazy to get your $$.

RM

A 3rd rotor? Total displacement to 1.5L or 1.8L?

3rd rotor would be 2.0L Similar to the 20B motor used in japan in the cosmo. I saw on here some guy with horrible grammer who had a 20bTT in his brand new RX-8. That car will be the most ass-kicking thing on the planet if he can deliver about 400hp to the wheels. There would be nothing I can imagine outrunning it. However, I'm estimating his overall cost between car, new motor, all custom work is about $75K when its all said and done. Still what a great car. Also, from a tech stand point, they cant do 3 rotor engines in the same "renesis" style due to the relocation of the peripheral intake and exhaust ports. It would be bad-ass however to have a front and rear renesis in maybe a full 4 door car. One pair of rotors to drive the front wheels, the other motor for the rears. AWD and loud-as-hell!! I'm excited. I just wanna see the Renesis in the new Miata.

Fire the management at Mazda North America, and hire some people with ethics and integrity.

HAHAHA!! I'd settle for hiring people with souls.

More soul than their sports cars! ;)

Originally posted by Turbo Matty P
3rd rotor would be 2.0L Similar to the 20B motor used in japan in the cosmo. I saw on here some guy with horrible grammer who had a 20bTT in his brand new RX-8. That car will be the most ass-kicking thing on the planet if he can deliver about 400hp to the wheels. There would be nothing I can imagine outrunning it. However, I'm estimating his overall cost between car, new motor, all custom work is about $75K when its all said and done. Still what a great car. Also, from a tech stand point, they cant do 3 rotor engines in the same "renesis" style due to the relocation of the peripheral intake and exhaust ports. It would be bad-ass however to have a front and rear renesis in maybe a full 4 door car. One pair of rotors to drive the front wheels, the other motor for the rears. AWD and loud-as-hell!! I'm excited. I just wanna see the Renesis in the new Miata.

That would absolutely be awesome. This would get really unrealistic, but 2 twin rotor AWD with the Active Camber Suspension system that Mercedes incorporated into the F400 Carving that allows cornering abilities of 1.28gs and cuts braking distance by 3%-5%.

Supercar status? :D

But with the Rx-8 as is, I prefer to think of it as a car on its own. Truly unique.

I agree w/ all of the above except the sport station wagon. Please not that, I think it ruins its image. One of the reasons I wouldn't buy an A4 or an IS300. Just my opinion, I guess because Mom had station wagons when I was a kid.

My additions would be:
Satellite Radio
Hands free cell phone

If I win my lawsuit with MNOA I'm HIGHLY considering just purchasing a 6Pi Renesis motor+tranny, computer, wiring harness, everything. Then bolting it all up into either my 1976 Ford Pinto, 95 Honda civic, or 67 Mustang GTA. Can you imagine the looks I'd get revving a 67 'Stang 10 grand?? It might actually make the mustang worth something again!!

Except for the small items, most of these improvements should be available as accessories or upgrade packages. I think Mazda's philosophy is to provide an exciting sports car while beating the competition on price. Mazda must maintain low prices or lose it's advantage, but it must offer customization options to those willing to pay for it.

Also most improvements add weight, hurting the already marginal performance. Mazda needs to find a way of adding HP without extra cost or weight.

That being said, I'd like to see some kind of variable shock system. A soft setting for cruising down interstates or commutes, and a hard setting for those twistys and performance driving in the city.

New features that Mazda should add for 2005:


1- Increase power to at least 210 wheel HP

2- Power MEMORY seats. I really dont see any reason to have power seats that DO NOT have position memory option.

memory seats LINKED TO THE MIRRORS! are an absolute must.
whever i let my brother drive my car, the seat and mirrors are all screwed up and i gotta spend time readjusting

it does need more power (to remain competetive in that segment), how theyll get it i dont know

CLIMATE CONTROL

some more heat insulation around center console
map pocket on drivers seatback
power seat for passenger
subwoofers in the bose (not REALLY necessary, though)
power rear windows
bi-xenon

BETTER LOOKING AND FEELING KEY!!!


the majority of those will not add too much cost or too much weight, right now the rx-8 could cost around 3k more fully loaded and still be at or below most (if not all) of its presumed competition
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i hope i'm not asking for too much:

- 4 wheel steering

- your choice of a buxom blonde or a seductive brunette to ride alongside you ($500 rebate if you already have one)

- windows that tint at the touch of a button

- folds into a 3.2oz. briefcase at the touch of a button

- cheuffer pops out of the steering wheel when you're too drunk to drive home

- disco-ball instead of courtesy lights for instant partays

- flux capacitor

in other words, i wouldn't change too much other than all the items listed on the first post

I take the girl
lol

a nice looking white paint...

and, with the previous post, a hot chick!!

Originally posted by canzoomer
Fire the management at Mazda North America, and hire some people with ethics and integrity.


that would be my christmas wish to Santa...

How about 250 hp?:D

Thor.

Originally posted by canzoomer
Fire the management at Mazda North America, and hire some people with ethics and integrity.

That's already done. The President of MNAO, Charlie Hughes, was replaced in April, and the VP Marketing for MNAO, Kristen Simmons (she was the one responsible for the Zoom-Zoom theme and ad campaigns), resigned in June to take a position at Gateway.

FWIW, I think Hughes was a scapegoat for slow sales of the Mazda6, and Kristen had peaked and wanted a change. I met them both, and had a few longer conversations in person with Ms. Simmons, and I'd say they both did have a high level of ethics and integrity.

Of course, Mazda Canada is an entirely separate marketing and distribution organization, but you didn't specify them... ;)

Regards,
Gordon

Move the rearview mirror up a bit.
I hate trying too look around the mirror going through a right hander.

Better throttle response, maybe a multi mode setting like sport & normal. The wife might not want it as snappy as I do.

Memory for the seats and mirrors

Deeper exhaust note

REAL GAUGES, not dummy gauges. I want to know the temp of the engine, not a wide ranged guess.

Digital gauges displayed through the Nav screen. Like Throttle position, oil temp, cornering G's, etc... ( a la Mazdaspeed, HKS CAMP, and Skyline GTR)

A readout for the tire pressure monitors, I'd like to know the pressure in each tire

Automatic Cliamate Control

Dual Zone Climate Control

A better (bigger) blower for the A/C system, it needs more air flow. Or maybe reevaluate the vent size/locations to increase the velocity of the air.

Integrated Key FOB in the Key, like VW, Audi, etc... (At least a smaller key and key FOB)

Redesign of the pockets in the doors, CD's are kind of har to get out once they are in.


The wife wants:

Adjustable pedals

Power passenger seat.

Lumbar adjustment in the passenger seat

Telescoping steering wheel

really have to have the memory on the seating and the mirrors.

having a seat that will fold forward would be a great help at times.

a keyfob that will roll down the windows when holding the unlock buttons.......when it is warm out, it is a nice way to cool down the inside quickly before you get into it.

auto down on passenger side window.

better heater in the seats like a mini ( i dont know if you guys have tried that, but the mini seat warmers are ballistic! )

make the whole head on the wiper control arm turn to adjust intermittent instead of just a ring.

warning light in better view for the security system.

i would lay into the mp3 system as well, but it is trivial things compared to the bigger things in the car.

more controls on the steering wheel for search forward on stereo, etc... (once again like a mini)

style the sunglass holder differently so it can hold wrap sunglasses....there isnt a pair that i own that will fit in there.

please understand that i am not bitching.....just noticing the small little things that i would change to make it "perfect" for me.

i would rant about the things i like but i would be typing for a long time!

What I want Mazda to add?

less gadgets. Less weight. better brakes, stiffer suspension, more HP. Lets have a real sports version - ala mazdaspeed or whatever.

As for folding seats, its NOT going to happen. Seen the chassi? theres structural cross members behind the rear seats that aint gona be removed.


Climate controle? Oh, they aded that alread for us Euro's, all they need now is to supply the cars!

Originally posted by Maximus
New features that Mazda should add for 2005:


1- Increase power to at least 210 wheel HP

2- Power MEMORY seats. I really dont see any reason to have power seats that DO NOT have position memory option.

Before we wonder about the 2005 model, shouldn't we wait until its 2004 & see what Mazda have planned as updates....???

Spare a thought for the Aussies. We are allowed to have a mere "900" 2003 models. The USA market is taking up the majority of the 8400 getting built each month. By the time the 2004 model hits the streets in another 5+ months you never know what Mazda have been listening to & changed for the benifit of public reaction....... ;)

sorry,

didnt mean folding seats, i mean to have the seatbacks fold forward for easier entry to the back and a "memory" snapback as well.

Originally posted by ramfann
sorry,

didnt mean folding seats, i mean to have the seatbacks fold forward for easier entry to the back and a "memory" snapback as well.


The seats do fold forwards dont they? least the one I had a loot at did... cloth btw...

Originally posted by RobDickinson



The seats do fold forwards dont they? least the one I had a loot at did... cloth btw...

Yeah the car I drove had seats which folded forwards.

Analog speedo, 3 rotors

Analog speedo, 3 rotors :D :D :D
Don't park outside!!
Fire the kids!!

Originally posted by rxphink
Move the rearview mirror up a bit.
I hate trying too look around the mirror going through a right hander......Unless you've already done this & STILL don't like it, the rearview mirror is "double-jointed". I felt the same way as you, then someone here mentioned that it's "double-jointed". I never bothered really to look before I read that. Sure enough, it is. You can (slowly-carefully now) bend the joint that's closest to the windshield upward, and also bend the joint that's closest the the mirror downward for the final view adjustment. Viola! It's much higher & less of an obstruction. I dunno why they're set so low when you get the car.

DMRH:
I don't understand what you are saying about this being a 2003 car. At least here in the USA, this is a 2004 car. All 2004 cars will be coming out extremely soon & so I don't see any "updates" until the 2005 model comes out about 1 year from now. (Except maybe a new ECU flash or something to placiate the "missing hp" issue. Fingers crossed...)

Originally posted by Racer X-8
Unless you've already done this & STILL don't like it, the rearview mirror is "double-jointed".

For me, a good 2005 adjustment would be the controls on the mirror. The windscreen is valuable real estate; I don't need four buttons and a sensor combined with very thick plastic edging when I'm trying to see. Please move the HomeLink controls to the overhead roof area, where they belong.

Power to the sunroof after the car is turned off - Just like the door windows.

Originally posted by Racer X-8


DMRH:
I don't understand what you are saying about this being a 2003 car. At least here in the USA, this is a 2004 car. All 2004 cars will be coming out extremely soon & so I don't see any "updates" until the 2005 model comes out about 1 year from now. (Except maybe a new ECU flash or something to placiate the "missing hp" issue. Fingers crossed...)

Its only Sep-2003, so how can you have a 2004 model car........??

This must be one of those crazy American things. Here down under, we call a 2003 model car a "2003 model". The first of the 2004 models should start showing up in showrooms by early 2004.

Just to get this (strange) way straight. If a USA customer took delivery of his RX-8 in Jul-03, the car would have been built around May-03. How can it be a 2004 model............ :confused:

Did I mention the lip spoiler??
Then the lip spoiler should be added as a must!!

Originally posted by DMRH


Its only Sep-2003, so how can you have a 2004 model car........??

This must be one of those crazy American things. Here down under, we call a 2003 model car a "2003 model". The first of the 2004 models should start showing up in showrooms by early 2004.

Just to get this (strange) way straight. If a USA customer took delivery of his RX-8 in Jul-03, the car would have been built around May-03. How can it be a 2004 model............ :confused:

DMRH --- In the US they begin marketing the next year approx 4-6 months before they are released. About 50% of all new makes/models are manufactured in mid summer of that year, and hit the showroom floors in the fall. The other 50% of makes/models seem to be manufactured in winter and hit the showroom floor after the 1st of the new year.

We already have several new 2004 model year vehicles coming out in US right now (ie : 04 Ford F150, 04 Mits Endeavor, 04 Pontiac Grand Prix, Etc).

To be honest, I'd rather have it called a 2003 model year. That way I could have cheaper insurance...lol:D

Originally posted by DMRH
Its only Sep-2003, so how can you have a 2004 model car........??

This must be one of those crazy American things. Here down under, we call a 2003 model car a "2003 model". The first of the 2004 models should start showing up in showrooms by early 2004.It's an American thing, but it's not as crazy as it first appears. The law defines "model year" thusly:Model year means the manufacturer's annual production period (as determined under § 85.2304) which includes January 1 of such calendar year, provided, that if the manufacturer has no annual production period, the term "model year" shall mean the calendar year.So if a vehicle is only manufactured for part of a year, then its "model year" is that calendar year. But if it spans two years, then the "model year" is the second year it's available. A "model year" cannot span two January 1sts, but a single "model year" could theoretically last from January 2nd of one year all the way through until December 31st of the following year - 1 year and 364 days. However, in practical use the manufacturers generally introduce "next year's" cars sometime around August/September each year.

Yes, it's arbritary, but it doesn't require the general public to remember arcane and cryptic model designations such as XA, XB, XC, XD, EA, VB, VC, etc, as the Australian car-buying public is expected to do. Is an XB Falcon a 1973, 1974, 1975 or 1976 car? The Australian model designation gives no clue, while the US system tells you immediately.

== a fuel mileage gauge like BMW. (even digital would be nice)
== a fix to bring horsepower back to the VERY original 250.
== front and rear rotor (appearance pkg as standard)
== CD changer as standard
== polished wheels as an option not accessory
== strengthening of flip lids and slides on console


I just have to say this - this car is fabulous. It is my hope that it pulls off several awards for the 2004 model year. Best Car, etc. I truly cannot imagine why it wouldn't. I have been re-shopping and looking at cars again (toying with the idea of buy-back) today I drove around for a while in a 350Z Touring. I can only say TRULY TRULY that I greatly prefer the RX 8. The z was heavy feeling and nowhere nearly as limber - light on its feet. It held the road but it was heavy. The SAME road I drive on daily - road noise was louder and I felt every bump throughout the cabin. The engine sounded great but the handling was nowhere near the same sensation of fun. As soon as I got back to the dealer a guy was looking at my car. He asked me about it and then said don't you miss having any torque? I said not really and I quoted the 0 - 60 z and RX specs.

I know this is long but I have visited 2 other dealerships again on cars of choice and have come back with the same "keep it" conclusion. Tonight on Dateline they had crash test info and one of the cars I looked at was featured = the G35. It was rated as POOR and major damage resulted from the study. Ironically the worst was the Mercedes 500 class - the bumper sprang off the car practically and cause MAJOR damage. MB commented in a letter that the bumper Styling outweighed the functional aspect - WHOA!!! The Mazda 6 did very well. So much for the Infiniti. I bet insurance will climb on those babies.

My greatest concern over the buy-back issue is the resale and future marketability. I e-mailed several car reviewer/writers and have received one reply - "Keep it. It is a very desired car."

The 2005 model should enter its model year with banners waving - great ads and Mazda should carefully review competitive offerings in EVERY area and do an up one better.

Illuminating the Homelink buttons would make them a lot easier to use at night. I've been turning on my inside light to find the right button. I haven't focused on whatever else may be needed to improve this car because it's just so darn fun to drive!

Make the MP3 player play DVD-R's. I could fit about 700 songs on one disk. Better disk navigation for the MP3 palyer.

I would like the holes in the sun visor to be at a different angle. I can see the lights through it if they are straigt down, but then the road is blocked. A good idea, but poor implementation. For my wife it works perfectly, she is 5'4 and am 6'.

Make the airbag warning lables so they can be removed. I hate having to see a warning when I am in my car. Make it so I can disable the front passenger airbag so i can more safely haul a third child.

few more things

"hold to close" and "hold to open" windows and sunroof.
hold the buttons down , lock or unlock, and the windows automatically roll up or down, respectively

telescoping memory steering wheel linked to seats and mirrors
heated steering wheel, TODAY MY HANDS WERE FREEZING!
climate control for driver and passenger
electric passenger w/ lumbar
auto on/auto off headlights
auto dimming side mirrors

mpg gauge w/ current drivable distance w/ tank (or at least have the distance in the nav)

a skip disc function on the steering wheel, like press and hold next track and it goes to the next/previous cd depending on whether you press and hold the up/down buttons (or group folder for the MD player, if it has a group sorting function, which if it doesnt hopefully it will have for '05)

nicer leather seats with better leather and suade for the bolsters instead of rubber, or just textured leather, as long as it gets rid of that rubber and is natural, and aint cloth, the leather doesnt have to be super-high quality, just a little nicer, its nice enough as it is, but you know, it IS an update!

again, these things shouldnt add all that much cost and dont weigh anything really, cause nothing much is being added except some wire, the rest is really replacement of other stuff, and additional programming

the thing that adds the most weight is probably the telescoping wheel
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As a pre-owner I would like a rear window wiper.

If I get low MPG I will want a bigger gas tank. :)

milo

I have a problem with placing my cell phone.

I would love to see an auto climate control. Set it and FORGET it!

I would enjoy (1) 'full functioning' guages, (2) a clothes hook for hanging garments, (3) adjustable lumbar support in the manual seats (driver & passenger), (4) heated outside mirrors all models, (5) power rear windows all models, and (6) cupholders moved from the present location (very obtrusive to my right arm while operating the stick) to somewhere else . . perhaps . . in the dash similar to an Audi design (spring loaded 'pop out' vertical orientation, then twist 90 degrees for horizontal orientation . . and useable cupholder [clean, clever engineering]). One cupholder for driver use, a separate cupholder for passenger use.

All the above are nit-picky observations during my, roughly, 3,500 miles of throughly enjoyable driving experiences. I love my '8'!! An incredibly well engineered automobile.

Originally posted by P00Man
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electric passenger w/ lumbar
.....

why do you need electric passenger? aren't humans enough? :-)

1) clutchless paddle shift option for manual 6 speed.

2) Standard din size hifi components (The arty ones look nice, but I hate being locked in and limited.

3) Factory warranted power upgrade.

4) Rear uderbody redesigned to fit compact spare tyre in boot.

Perhaps a limited edition with better everything (which will possibly come before a new model).

1) Oil Dipstick that is longer, so you don't have to reach so far down to check the oil.

2) Oil filler cap integrated with the vanity cover somehow... maybe the Mazda symbol lines up with the fill cap. The symbol would flip up, and the fill cap could be removed. The oil cap would need to be a little different, it would need a raised bar, or handle on the top, otherwise the area that the flip up symbol has isn't large enough to get fingers in to twist the existing oil cap off.

3) Shelf/carrier on the fule door to put fule cap, like the one on the FD. Keep the little cord, but add the shelf

4) redesign the rear license mounts. I know of many owners that have stripped them off.

5) Analog speed. (mentioned before)

6) Standard DIN style radio opening (I don't mind the integrated look, but it can be done with a DIN style opening for aftermarket units.

7) color matched or dedesigned vents after the front wheel

8) relocated front cup holders

9) singe touch close power windows and moonroof

10) Actual temperature numbers on the temp gauge, actual oil press numbers on the oil gauge, and a REAL oil pressure gauge.

11) Added gauges Voltmeter, Oil Temp, Air Fuel mixture

I love the car but the two things that annoy me are the oil situation and the traction control/DSC button.

They need to find a way to keep the oil up without the constant and messy high-maintenence hands-on routine. Checking the oil everytime you buy gas is just a little too yester-tech (great trivia question: when was the last everyday driver manufactured that required that?). It's this great car's weakest point. In the dead of winter it's going to be just too much fun. And making the dipstick and fillercap as difficult to get at as possible has got to be some kind of bad joke.

Here's an idea: for '05 they should put the filler cap on the bottom of the car so you have to flip the whole car over to add oil.

Then there's the DSC... Everyone knows it hurts fuel mileage. It's a great and potentially lifesaving feature(every car should have it), but it should be an opt-in, not an opt-out. Or at least I should be able to choose which way I want it. And having to hold the button down for 5 seconds is frankly a little insulting. Adult sports cars don't need to be "child-safed". When it's dry out I turn 'em off. It's a pain.

How about for '05 they make the ignition key out of foam rubber so I don't accidently poke my eye out?

RM

Originally posted by canzoomer
Fire the management at Mazda North America, and hire some people with ethics and integrity.

actually mazda now has a new president...its not some white guy anymore..its some japanese guy...(sorry for sounding too blunt)

A "Club Sport" version at 2700 pounds.

Originally posted by O.R.A.
A "Club Sport" version at 2700 pounds.

Is that the one built on a carbon fibre tub?