View Full Version : Racing beat revi intake for sale


rexi
11-28-2006, 11:15 PM
Reluctant sale due to local
dealer threatening to void warranty if I didnt replace with original, And seeing that there are no other dealers for servicing in 60 km radius, I have had to remove. NOT very happy as I really liked this intake. Car was more responsive and had a great induction note.

Anyway cost of revi was $430 Au plus $70 Au shipping = $500 Au.

Selling for $300 Au for quick sale. Phone me on 0422067432

By the way I am in Albury/Wodonga .

Regards
Rexi :mad:

Gomez
11-29-2006, 01:04 AM
Sounds like a good excuse for a trip to the big smoke every 10,000k's to me.......

EZZY
11-29-2006, 01:04 AM
threatened to void warranty on which part?

Gomez
11-29-2006, 01:06 AM
The engine, I'm tippin"...

kunz
11-29-2006, 01:12 AM
Thats a great price and should easily be snapped up by someone who's looking to upgrade. .. how long have you had it for?

Grizzly8
11-29-2006, 03:12 AM
Rexi

Check your PM :)

Michael

Gomez
11-29-2006, 03:20 AM
Rexi

Check your PM :)

Michael

Don't they have phones in QLD yet??

Gomez
11-29-2006, 03:21 AM
Selling for $300 Au for quick sale. Phone me on 0422067432



Take a quick drive across the border Michael and call rexi on the above number..... :mdrmed:

Grizzly8
11-29-2006, 03:39 AM
Take a quick drive across the border Michael and call rexi on the above number..... :mdrmed:

With D"wife and kids its hard to get on the phone :) without them overhearing PM is more of a stealth mode :ylsuper: :)

Michael

xxup
11-29-2006, 05:05 AM
Don't they have phones in QLD yet??

We do, but you blokes are already in bed before we ring thanks to your strange daylight "saving" scheme... :SHOCKED:

Gomez
11-29-2006, 06:09 AM
With D"wife and kids its hard to get on the phone :) without them overhearing PM is more of a stealth mode :ylsuper: :)

Michael

She's a professional who sees into other peoples minds and she's lived with you for over 20 years. I'm tippin' she knows all your tricks, fella....;)

Gomez
11-29-2006, 06:11 AM
We do, but you blokes are already in bed before we ring thanks to your strange daylight "saving" scheme... :SHOCKED:

Feel free to PM me at three tomorrow morning....I'll still be up!!

Revolver
11-29-2006, 06:02 PM
I'd be getting up the service manager if I were you. Unless he can demonstrate that the intake has or is likely to cause a problem, he has no basis to void your warranty.

MissyK
11-29-2006, 06:43 PM
Intakes have been known to cause problems. Where negative force of water can enter or other foreign objects. water is the main problem, as other things can be blocked via the air filter. But if water gets in.. boom engine. Thats why avoiding puddles and such..... thats extreme cases, but I do understand why some dealers wouldnt like.

Revolver
11-29-2006, 07:57 PM
Intakes have been known to cause problems. Where negative force of water can enter or other foreign objects. water is the main problem, as other things can be blocked via the air filter. But if water gets in.. boom engine. Thats why avoiding puddles and such..... thats extreme cases, but I do understand why some dealers wouldnt like.

I've heard rumours of that happening and agree it's certainly possibile but I'm yet to read about a specific case of someone with engine failure as a result of an aftermarket intake. Not saying it hasn't happened, I just haven't heard of a proven case (and fair enough, I haven't searched).

In any event, not accepting a warranty claim is very different from voiding the whole warranty. If the intake can be proven to be the source of a problem, fair enough - that's your risk. But the warranty should still be available for non-intake related problems.

MissyK
11-29-2006, 08:01 PM
on another note, there have been cases where Mazda officials goto drag strips eg. calder park and immediately on the spot void warranties. I know its happened to few people.....

Revolver
11-29-2006, 08:07 PM
on another note, there have been cases where Mazda officials goto drag strips eg. calder park and immediately on the spot void warranties. I know its happened to few people.....

I don't think they have a basis to do that, unless there's some fine print in the warranty agreement that says something like drag racing will void your warranty.

In a sense, I don't really blame Mazda for wanting to void for dragging. That kind of thing puts much more strain on the drivetrain than tracking, etc. Some of the launch techniques I've seen people use are pretty brutal.

And let's face it - if you want a car for dragging, the RX8, MX5, etc would be pretty low on your shopping list. You'd be better off buying an old RX3/4/7 and modifying it.

MissyK
11-29-2006, 08:14 PM
Actually they do have a right. And that have done it before. Im not going to get into this further... could create arguments, but I have been told to my face by service managers about it.....

auzoom
11-29-2006, 08:22 PM
I think drags are one thing. Track is totally different.

I would be curious if it was a dealer or mazda that was attending these days. Because if it was a dealer I say name and shame.

mikeyr
11-29-2006, 09:27 PM
Actually they do have a right. And that have done it before. Im not going to get into this further... could create arguments, but I have been told to my face by service managers about it.....Kal is quite correct, specifically excluded under warranty point 3.

"(b) Any Mazda car used for competition racing or related purposes."

Drag's fall under this description, two people, one track, one winner.

Tracking would be less clear, particularly if timing was undertaken and scores posted!? Interesting??

Friend has had a bust up with a car company (sports car not Mazda) with a busted drivetrain. They used his computer to claim he had repeatedly over revved the engine. 200 times they claim. But the car has a limiter just like ours. They have refused to replace several gear boxes in Aus on a particluar model on this basis. Google it, its not hard to find! He has only ever tracked the car and its is under 2 years old!:Eyecrazy:

auzoom
11-29-2006, 09:43 PM
I would love to get a "Legal" definition of the words "Competition" and "related".

While I time myself on teh track, I am not competing with anyone else. So to me I am not partaking in competition racing. Question is, is this "related" in purpose to "competition racing"?

Andrew

takahashi
11-29-2006, 09:53 PM
Even Ferrari has oil leak on the track. If it cannot be "sported", why call it a sports car. :mad: Mikeyr - which car are you talking about. H***** M***** ?

If you not "sporting" your car, forget about owning a sports car.

Now a note to auzoom, please don't turn up the next meet in sports gear... you ain't look sporty :nono:

Revolver
11-29-2006, 10:16 PM
Kal is quite correct, specifically excluded under warranty point 3.

"(b) Any Mazda car used for competition racing or related purposes."

Drag's fall under this description, two people, one track, one winner.

Tracking would be less clear, particularly if timing was undertaken and scores posted!? Interesting??

Fair enough. I hadn't looked at the warranty document when I posted earlier.

In construing the clause, "competition" is not the sole operative word. "Competition racing" has to be read together.

The usual meaning of competition is a contest for some prize or advantage, involving rivalry.

The usual meaning of racing (in this context) is a contest of speed or some kind of competition.

Any purpose caught by the clause would have to be related to competition racing. For example, warm up laps, practice, etc would probably be caught but I doubt merely driving to the circuit would have the sufficient nexus.

I'd argue timed laps only become a competition when participants are vying to beat each other's times, such as in a recognised time trial type event. In other words, when there's rivalry involved. Merely competing against yourself would not, in my view, constitute competition racing. Ditto posting results but for more abundant caution it is probably better to post results by name rather than by fastest time.

This is why I'm uncomfortable with the prize given at the Nats this year for fastest lap time. This arguably elevates a driver experience day into a competition. Appreciation of another driver's skills is okay but as soon as you add a prize for 'fastest', I think you start to enter dangerous territory.

Something for the organisers of next year's Nats to think about.

Revolver
11-29-2006, 10:22 PM
If you not "sporting" your car, forget about owning a sports car.

I understand where you're coming from Taka and agree sports cars are designed to be driven harder than your average bear but let's remember that the manufacturers aren't selling race cars - they're selling road cars, designed to be used on roads rather than circuits. Even Ferrari's differ from out and out race cars in some respects.

I agree there's some grey areas like Exige's, etc, which are very close to race cars with blinkers attached, but the RX8 at least is sold as a road car and, although very competent on the track, is not held out by Mazda as fit for purpose as a race car. Racing the car involves stresses that won't occur in legal road use and for that reason I can understand why Mazda wants to exclude competition racing from its warranty coverage.

Revolver
11-29-2006, 10:24 PM
While I time myself on teh track, I am not competing with anyone else. So to me I am not partaking in competition racing. Question is, is this "related" in purpose to "competition racing"?

I'd suggest not unless you were practicing for some sort of competition.

MissyK
11-29-2006, 10:24 PM
Competition and "educational drive days" is different. Most of these events heard at tracks are purely educational, there are instructors there and at the end of the day everyone learns more about their cars and such. Most of these events have a clause which states they are educational etc

By saying what i said in first post I didnt wanna start a debate on this.. i was just showing that yea mazda has the right to void warranty if they feel it will put the car in a position to require warranty work that otherwise it would not need under normal conditions.

Revolver
11-29-2006, 10:33 PM
Competition and "educational drive days" is different. Most of these events heard at tracks are purely educational, there are instructors there and at the end of the day everyone learns more about their cars and such. Most of these events have a clause which states they are educational etc

By saying what i said in first post I didnt wanna start a debate on this.. i was just showing that yea mazda has the right to void warranty if they feel it will put the car in a position to require warranty work that otherwise it would not need under normal conditions.

I quite agree with your first paragraph Kall and if the event is run that way, there's no problem. But merely calling something an educational drive day is no protection if in fact the day involves some competitive element, like a contest to see who can get the fastest lap time. Even if it is informal with no prize or anything, if it can be established that people were racing to beat each other's times, I'd suggest the manufacturer would have a viable argument to void warranty.

Otherwise, point taken. I'm not trying to argue with anyone here. Just making a few observations given how many of the regulars go to track days, etc. At the end of the day we need to decide for ourselves what risks we are prepared to run.

MissyK
11-29-2006, 10:35 PM
Places like events oneill dont time you............ timing is a form of competing

Revolver
11-29-2006, 10:49 PM
.... timing is a form of competing

Only if you're trying to beat someone else's time IMHO. There must be some rivalry involved in my view. Merely finding out how fast you're going is not necessarily competition.

That said, I can see why Events O'Neill don't do it. Human nature being what it is, comparison is inevitable, shortly followed by competition. :mdrmed:

Grizzly8
11-29-2006, 10:58 PM
Geez talk about hijacking a thread :Eyecrazy:

Too much mental wankering :boring: :)

Michael

MissyK
11-29-2006, 11:11 PM
cant fucking win can I michael? i talk about something to do with rx8s and i still get people stating im off topic. i stay in the lounge and i still get told off for off topic

fuck it!!!

EZZY
11-30-2006, 01:07 AM
The engine, I'm tippin"...
that'd be the usual case, but did you hear that from rexi's service centre?

Geez talk about hijacking a thread :Eyecrazy:

Too much mental wankering :boring: :)

Michael
have you applied for the mod status or you are just a mod wannabe?

rexi
11-30-2006, 01:26 AM
Revi has been sold guys.Thanks.

Grizzly8
11-30-2006, 03:13 AM
cant fucking win can I michael? i talk about something to do with rx8s and i still get people stating im off topic. i stay in the lounge and i still get told off for off topic

fuck it!!!

Calm down and remenber a :boink: a day keeps you from being an Tempermental ...........??????? :p: :p: :yelrotflm :lol: :lol:


Michael

Grizzly8
11-30-2006, 03:25 AM
Revi has been sold guys.Thanks.


I may have a way of getting more REVIS NEW at a reasonable price , so if anyone is interested let me know .

George (rexi ) Great doing bussiness with you ;)

Michael

timbo
11-30-2006, 04:27 PM
Rexi, I'm surprised about your dealer's attitude, unless you've been coming in to them with regular MAF CELs

FWIW, I was told before last year's Nats by 'well-placed' Mazda people that they did not have too many concerns about driver education track days or lap dash events -- MA, of course, ran themselves as part of the 8's marketing campaign. Nor did they have any real worries about mods such as exhausts (but not cats) or properly developed CAIs. I think the logic is there's not much to be gained anyway

Where they did have concerns relates (a) to drag racing (which, when you side-step the clutch at 6,000rpm, obviously puts a major strain on the whole drivetrain) and (b) flash tuning and forced induction. I think the comment was something like "people who do this stuff obviously know they are voiding their warranty and we're more concerned about the fraud they try on, by taking the stuff off and saying the damage happened to a stock car.

Seems fair enough to me :scratchhe

The anecdotal evidence here (and on the other forum) suggests MA has been pretty good on most warranty claims.

Revolver
11-30-2006, 05:15 PM
Rexi, I'm surprised about your dealer's attitude, unless you've been coming in to them with regular MAF CELs

That kind of thinking is pretty much what prompted my first interjection. Quite a few people have CAI's and this is the first time I've heard a dealer threatening to void warranty as a result.


FWIW, I was told before last year's Nats by 'well-placed' Mazda people that they did not have too many concerns about driver education track days or lap dash events -- MA, of course, ran themselves as part of the 8's marketing campaign.

Yep, understand that and I wasn't trying to scaremonger or kybosh the Nationals as an event. I just think we need to be a bit smarter about the structure and prizes and such. Personnel at MA may change and/or attitudes to such an event may change.


As for going off-topic - what crap :spank: . The very first post raised the reason for the sale. This isn't a bloody classifieds. It's a discussion forum and that's exactly what I was doing. If anything, keeping the thread at the top of the queue probably gave the 'ad' more exposure.