Braking, what would the braking distances be like? I plan on going fast in my RX-8, and I plan on decelerating extremely quick as well. Going fast is fun, but I wanna go fast for a lot longer than just a year or two, until I become a quadrapalegect (sp?) What brakes are being used? Are we getting fancy shmancy brakes? Brakes are important. Very VERY important...

Quadrapalegect:confused: Do you mean quadraplegic? What does paralysis have to do with aging or braking? Hey, I may not know what you are talking about but at least you can spell potato whereas our last Republican Vice President couldn't and many wonder if our current President is literate.

Yeah, I was just talking about quadra...whatever cause that's what happens to people when they injure their back in a car accident...duh...

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
Braking, what would the braking distances be like? I plan on going fast in my RX-8, and I plan on decelerating extremely quick as well. Going fast is fun, but I wanna go fast for a lot longer than just a year or two, until I become a quadrapalegect (sp?) What brakes are being used? Are we getting fancy shmancy brakes? Brakes are important. Very VERY important...
Well if the indicator of the Mazda6 is good, then the braking on the RX-8 should be superb. If you read the reviews of the Mazda6, the stock brakes are close to German performance :) Not too shabby for a car that costs 23k loaded :)

My Dad wont let me get a V8 Mustang because its too powerful, do you think there'll be any way he'll let me get this car?

Just say "hey Dad, this new RX-8 only has a 1.3-liter engine with 159 ft-lbs of torque." Maybe he'll fall for it. ;)

Edit - and if he's not very knowledgeable about cars, when you take him to the dealer to check out the car, show him the four spark plug wires and he'll think it's a four cylinder. :D

On second thought, the RENESIS probably has coil-on-plug ignition...

I already told him about the 2800 pound thing, and the 9000 rpm, hes knows a fair bit about cars too. I live on in Victoria, and we'll be going over to vancouver to buy the car. I think I'll have to somehow get the guy whos selling the car aside, and tell him to lie about the HP or something...

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
My Dad wont let me get a V8 Mustang because its too powerful, do you think there'll be any way he'll let me get this car?
If this is your first car follow the advice that's been given out, get a beater car that's decent like a Miata, and learn for two years (at the least).

Then get whatever ya like. Trust me two years is a lifetime of experience when it comes to being on the road.

I wouldn't dream of driving this car as soon as I get my license. Okay, in BC, we have a system where you start out with you L license, or Learners (We call it Losers) then after 6 months, you take a test to get your N. For New driver. Oh, just to let you know, when you have your L, you cannot drive by yourself, and you have to have a regular driver in the car with you. And after 18 months, you get to take the test to get a reg license. I'll start out with my families Toyota Corolla (98), It's a nice car. Reliable. Anywho, I won't have enough dough saved until about Grade 12, (I'm in grade 10 right now) so, I'm thinking I'll be able to get enough dough, from my working at Pizza Hut and everything. So I'll have about 2 years of driving under my ass.:p
Oh And by the way, I will have the nicest car in school, the chicks will not be able to stay away :rolleyes:

I'd just like to say Hi. I just came in here and started talking, but I'd like to just be welcomed by the wonderous world of wankel. Hey, did you guys know that they hold a party in felix wankels name each year in germany? That's kinda honourable, no?

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
I wouldn't dream of driving this car as soon as I get my license. Okay, in BC, we have a system where you start out with you L license, or Learners (We call it Losers) then after 6 months, you take a test to get your N.

here in the states we call that a permit.

Yeah, in Vancouver, you see some really bad drivers. And not to be rasict or anything, but a lot of them are chinese.

then you should also say that a lot of the other bad drivers are whiteys, like (i assume, 'cause you're from victoria) you and me...

not that you're a bad driver, but you can't single out one demographic as "something something" without stating specific reasons why:

the reason that many of the accidents that are featured in the newspapers happen to be caused by oriental (the vast VAST majority of which are chinese) teens is because of the culture that has arisen for them in Vancouver and Richmond, not to mention the rest of the GVRD. Many of these oriental immigrants are very wealthy, and the parents buy these kids really quick (or reasonably quick) vehicles, and they like to street race.

but, if you're implying that most asiatic people are bad drivers 'cause they're asiatic, ya, that's racist (not that i think you are... :D)

anyhoo ilovepotatos, the biggest determinants in braking distances are:
1)weight of the vehicle
2)grip of the tyres!!
3)how bad the fade is in one go...

blueadept has been telling horror stories about some car he used to have, and how bad the fade was just from spirited driving on the road... but unless you're racing around a road circuit, or being a real dickhead on the streets, you really shouldn't encounter any significant amount of brake fade...
bigger brake disks, and the slotted or (groan!!) cross-drilled kind too, are there to reduce fade, by simply absorbing and dispersing more heat at once... the bigger calipers and more abrasive pads do generate more friction, but if the grip of your tyres is exhausted (and they lock) with smaller calipers and less aggressive pads, there's no reason at all to get bigger/stronger ones...

That was exactly what I meant. When you goto Vancouver, you see all these cars, all these Preludes, and you wonder who bought them for them...I didn't mean in any way that Chinese people are bad drivers.

Oh, and by the way, If I can't get an RX-8, I'll get a Dakota R/T, what have you guys heard of them?

Welcome potatos! ;)

When will I become a regular user? Could someone tell me where I find the ranks, or could someone tell me please?
TY

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
When will I become a regular user? Could someone tell me where I find the ranks, or could someone tell me please?
TY
Just keep posting :)

Fair enough.

Hey guys, I'm going to work tonight. There's a guy that works there that thinks that Mazda are cheap and crappy cars. Hes thinkin of getting an Acura Integra, what should I say to defend my car, while makin fun of his? (He knows I want an RX-8)

toadman, where'd you get that pic? It's sweet! I wanna get a big one!

Originally posted by wakeech
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blueadept has been telling horror stories about some car he used to have, and how bad the fade was just from spirited driving on the road... but unless you're racing around a road circuit, or being a real dickhead on the streets, you really shouldn't encounter any significant amount of brake fade.....

Perhaps a little more than spirited... definitely more than the car was ever designed to handle... LOL.

When you get a cheap beater, remember that it isn't really designed to live that long or be pushed as hard as most of us do.... don't just assume that everything will always work... check your tyres, brakes, oil linkages etc... regularly. It's better than them breaking when you need them most!

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
Hey guys, I'm going to work tonight. There's a guy that works there that thinks that Mazda are cheap and crappy cars. Hes thinkin of getting an Acura Integra, what should I say to defend my car, while makin fun of his? (He knows I want an RX-8)

Don't say anything....

If he's made up his mind you won't be able to change it. be satisfied in your own knowledge,.... and let him be satisfied in his, at least until you have the car... but even then, let him come to his own conclusions.

A car is not about bragging rights, it's about your own satisfaction.... if it's the car you want, then it's automatically the best car in the world... for YOU.

I suppose however that you could point out that Mazda is the ONLY Jap manufacturer to ever win the LeMan 24 hours... (With a rotary no less)...

The one most important piece of advice I guess I can give, is this.... "In life other people don't have to loose for you to win".... If you can get what, while letting other people have what they want, then things will flow a lot smoother.

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
Hey guys, I'm going to work tonight. There's a guy that works there that thinks that Mazda are cheap and crappy cars. Hes thinkin of getting an Acura Integra, what should I say to defend my car, while makin fun of his? (He knows I want an RX-8)
An Integra?

Okay, first off my advice to you is to take two years and just learn to drive really well. The people on these boards (the majority at least) realize that any idiot can go fast, but it takes skill to work out corners and twisties.

Then when you're ready, go have a track day with him and any car he so chooses (and if he's leaning to the Integra now, god knows what he'll be looking at later :P), and have your way with him.

Besides, an Integra is FWD and that can't even come close to comparing to an RX-8.

Victoria's track sucks. It's western speedway, and it's about 200 meters in circumfrence. If that. It's an oval, and it sucks. It wouldn't take much on that. Where else could I go?

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
Victoria's track sucks. It's western speedway, and it's about 200 meters in circumfrence. If that. It's an oval, and it sucks. It wouldn't take much on that. Where else could I go?
Just find a 90 degree turn and see at what speed you can take it safely, and what speed he can.

Being that his car is a FWD car, he can't control oversteer with the throttle and when his rear end whips loose he can't hold it. RWD cars can hold it if you know how to use the throttle and steering.

Then laugh at him all day long :)

Still, Integras are very nicely handling cars, and regularly embarass RWD cars on track. Having RWD isn't everything, so don't get too cocky with your friend, he might just suprise you. Best to wait until the RX8 is "out" before you start bench racing :)

Originally posted by Macabre
Still, Integras are very nicely handling cars, and regularly embarass RWD cars on track. Having RWD isn't everything, so don't get too cocky with your friend, he might just suprise you. Best to wait until the RX8 is "out" before you start bench racing :)
That's a test of a driver :)

Just become a better driver than him and focus your energy on learning proper technique instead of arguing. When you're up to the task, humiliate him in <insert car here>.

:D

Another advantage of having RWD is the fact that when you mash the gas peddle, the weight will transfer to the rear wheels, the driving wheels. With front wheel drive cars, they have more problems, for very little of the weight is applied to the front wheels.

What do you think will be the key factors in this cars success? I personally think many willl buy this car merely for the looks. That's what initially drew me in. What does mazda have to do for this car to be a success, and eventually release an RX-7?

give us more info now! start advertising now! get my car to me by may, don't make me wait until summer!
seriously though they need to get more word out on this car, soon.i talk to people all the time who have never even heard about it. even if the production models don't make it to the smaller car shows this winter, mazda should get the yellow mule and maybe even the old evolve out to them to create some buzz.

I think they should offer those CD's in canada. Mazda does sell better in Canada, than the states, you know.

that's true, but in proportion... think in nominal terms... the US has nearly 10 times the population, and a whole lot more buying power per person than canadians, not to mention the fact that their car-crazy demand shifts the market clearing price well above the price of cars in canada (in real terms).

;) i'm an econ major, this is what i do. :D

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
What do you think will be the key factors in this cars success? I personally think many willl buy this car merely for the looks. That's what initially drew me in. What does mazda have to do for this car to be a success, and eventually release an RX-7?
What drew me in was a longstanding reputation for VERY nimble cars that Mazda has created for itself. Look at the Protege, Miata, and RX-7. And then came styling. I'm a recent rotary convert :)

Nimble cars are good, and yes, mazda is known for them. But mazda is also known for affordable sports cars. Let's just hope they remember this when pricing the RX-8. If they don't they'll price themselves out of competition of the 350Z.

Sweet. I'm a reg member. (I just put that WRC to see if the border # was 30, I was right! :D)

stop being such a whore... ;)

(just so y'all know, he knows i'm kidding...)

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
Do you think we'll see this car in the WRC?
Too big.

As per price, it tops out at 31k loaded with navigation, according to the VP of Mazda North America so I think that's a good roundabout figure.

Just take a guess for around 30k with a fully loaded 6 speed manual.

and it only took him one thread.

me and wakeesh are buds.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by zoom44
seriously though they need to get more word out on this car, soon.i talk to people all the time who have never even heard about it. even if the production models don't make it to the smaller car shows this winter, mazda should get the yellow mule and maybe even the old evolve out to them to create some buzz.

Only after I've bought mine :)

All Mazda has to do, in order to drum up more business than they can possibly handle, is to run a one-minute ad during the Super Bowl. The car will sell itself. I can't believe how good looking that car is! And by the way, yes there will be an RX-7 again. The US has gone horsepower-crazy. I mean, think about it! The new Honda Accord has a 240-hp V6!

You know what sucks? Up here in canada, we get the rebroadcasted superbowl. So we don't actually see those sweet Superbowl ads. We only see the stupid ones from Canada. The ones that aren't really expensive...:mad:

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
My Dad wont let me get a V8 Mustang because its too powerful, do you think there'll be any way he'll let me get this car?

If your dad buys this car he won't let you drive it either, he'll keep it to himself.... good luck....lol

Dude, you don't understand! I'm buying the car!:rolleyes:

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
Oh, and by the way, If I can't get an RX-8, I'll get a Dakota R/T, what have you guys heard of them?


hummmm you should try shopping around a bit, Honda's new SIR, or Nissan's very fast and hot SE-R Spec-V would be a much better choice then a Dakota...

Like is the Dakota even in the same category as an 8, shit you might as well get a camel, its about as close to an 8 as a Dakota..

e-gads, where u from again?

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
Victoria's track sucks. It's western speedway, and it's about 200 meters in circumfrence. If that. It's an oval, and it sucks. It wouldn't take much on that. Where else could I go?


What, did they ban racing at Beachon Hill Park???

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
Dude, you don't understand! I'm buying the car!:rolleyes:

Holy, you posted your reply to my thread in less then 5 minutes, do u live in here?

Yeah, yeah I live on Mars. Jeez. What's wrong with Dakota's? They're beautiful, (unlike the NEW rams...eww), plenty of power and they have a good warrenty. And don't tell me that they've got a bad reputation, because Mazda doesn't exactly have one either...:eek:

Originally posted by Evolv


Holy, you posted your reply to my thread in less then 5 minutes, do u live in here?
I do! :)

*is top poster on forum*

555 posts is kinda sick hercules...
:D

He's pushing 600 now...*Turns away in disgust*

/me ponders hitting the reset post count button. :)

Guys, where's a place where I can just print off a bunch of writing on the RX-8? For reading? ( Must be on one page, I don't really want to print off 30 seperate pages)

Originally posted by Toadman
/me ponders hitting the reset post count button. :)
If you do it for everybody, there's no problem by me :)

I'm sure I'll earn it back rather quickly :D

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
Guys, where's a place where I can just print off a bunch of writing on the RX-8? For reading? ( Must be on one page, I don't really want to print off 30 seperate pages) Best bet is the Road and Track article, it's four separate pages but gives you probably the best overview of the car and its capabilities.

Here's the link. (http://www.roadandtrack.com/features/ArticleDisplay.asp?ArticleID=7&page=1)

2 More Herc, and you hit 600. We better get the balloons ready! ;)

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
2 More Herc, and you hit 600. We better get the balloons ready! ;) So where are they? :D

lol, read it already. There really isn't that much out there, is there?

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
lol, read it already. There really isn't that much out there, is there?
Sadly no... that's why we all sit (well at least I do *grin*) on this board waiting for somebody to spill the beans on the latest and greatest news about the RX-8.

I'm not expecting anything spectacular until January though, after the car hits the Detroit Auto Show. Hopefully boowana in all his wisdom is right and then we will have car mags and all them reviewing this car soon afterwards.

And we'll get a definate spec sheet, color sheet, and better media for the car.

Crappy McCrapster. So we gotta wait til January? Oh well. I guess I shouldn't complain. I've only been waiting since september...:D
Some of you guys have been waiting over 2 years...:p

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
Crappy McCrapster. So we gotta wait til January? Oh well. I guess I shouldn't complain. I've only been waiting since september...:D
Some of you guys have been waiting over 2 years...:p
2 years and 600+ posts! :D

I think I should just get one of those RX's in those spy shots, but throw the guy driving it out. Then just rip into the sunset. They won't be able to catch me, the yellow of the car will blend right in!

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
I think I should just get one of those RX's in those spy shots, but throw the guy driving it out. Then just rip into the sunset. They won't be able to catch me, the yellow of the car will blend right in!

Don't steal the Yellow one from the shows... I hear it's pretty engine free!

Originally posted by BlueAdept


Don't steal the Yellow one from the shows... I hear it's pretty engine free!

Yeah, but its really light without all that extra weight gone from the superfluous engine/transmission. :D

ya sure, potatohead could just book it Fred Flinstone style... :rolleyes:
ahahahahaa!!

That really emphasizes the FORD influence.

F - fast
O - only
R - rolling
D - downhill

:D

Somehow I don't think it would be a good idea to be making fun of ford on a mazda forum. Just a thought.

Originally posted by BlueAdept


Don't steal the Yellow one from the shows... I hear it's pretty engine free!

Yeah, then you could put an overbored LT1 in there. That would be really sweet!









NOT!

If I couldn't get an RX-8 (Too much hp, not enough money) What else would be an option?

an FD... same power, less weight, less money, more torque ;)

heh heh... jk

what about the accord?? or the mazda 6?? uh... OH!! go to my "real competitors with the RX-8" thread... in discussion, mega old... i'll link ya...

REAL competitors for the RX-8 (http://www.rx8forum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=322)

Next step down is probably an RSX or an impreza depending on your taste. If you could find a 2002 WRX right now I'm sure you could get a fantastic deal on it (think around $22k)

ya, i think those're covered in that old thread... give'er the ol' skim-a-roo... :D

What do you guys think of...
1. 1997 Ford Probe GT
2. 1997 Eagle Talon ASi AWD
3. 2002 Acura RSX Type S
4. 2003 Dodge Dakota R/T (I want an actual opinion, not put downs, please!)
5. 1999 Honda S2000
6. 1995 Lexus SC 300
7. 2002 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V
8. 2003 Nissan 350Z
9. 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX
10. 1992 Toyota Supra Turbo
Hey Guys, these cars are the motley crew, and many of them are in totally different price catagories, and thats okay. Just speak your mind, for the next opinion is always more important than the last!

Come on you guys! Let's talk about something.
Course, now I can't reply, cause Im going to work...:(

1. sat in my buddy's Probe once, doubt it was a GT, all show, no go
2. hear that these are effin' quick, but have no opinion...
3. dunno
4. dunno, i'm NOT a truck guy...
5. dunno... just like it a lot :)
6. don't even know what that looks like in my head...
7. the power is alright, the torque is SICK... 5th gear was a BITCH though, such a reach to try and find it (IMO)... reverse felt, i dunno, kinda funny, always thought i was just finding 6th(IMO)... the interior is majorly lame... hate the airdam...
8. missed my chance at driving it! (damn!! i still think it's probably a good car tho)
9. :D probably the only car, other than an FD, or BMW, i'd really dream about having...
10. meh, the look is okay... dunno much about it...

So, did you pick those cars at random? I can't quite pick out the pattern. Not many of them would qualify in your search of cars with lower cost and less HP than an RX-8 though.

Originally posted by wakeech
1. sat in my buddy's Probe once, doubt it was a GT, all show, no go
2. hear that these are effin' quick, but have no opinion...
3. dunno
4. dunno, i'm NOT a truck guy...
5. dunno... just like it a lot :)
6. don't even know what that looks like in my head...
7. the power is alright, the torque is SICK... 5th gear was a BITCH though, such a reach to try and find it (IMO)... reverse felt, i dunno, kinda funny, always thought i was just finding 6th(IMO)... the interior is majorly lame... hate the airdam...
8. missed my chance at driving it! (damn!! i still think it's probably a good car tho)
9. :D probably the only car, other than an FD, or BMW, i'd really dream about having...
10. meh, the look is okay... dunno much about it...

I'd go with the S2000... The WRX is just so much hype IMHO. The supra is a real desire to be sideways... other than that I'm not realyl gonna comment.

Fair enough. No, those cars are not random. Those are all the vehicles I like. Particularily that Lexus...mmm. I'm skeptical of what car I want, and frankly my ideal car will probably change in 6 months or a year!

Originally posted by BlueAdept


I'd go with the S2000... The WRX is just so much hype IMHO. The supra is a real desire to be sideways... other than that I'm not realyl gonna comment.

I agree, the S2000 is a far better vehicle than the WRX. Unfortunately, it also costs about $12k more to buy one. The hype around the WRX is that you get a lot of performance for the money.

Originally posted by ilovepotatos
What do you guys think of...
1. 1997 Ford Probe GT
2. 1997 Eagle Talon ASi AWD
3. 2002 Acura RSX Type S
4. 2003 Dodge Dakota R/T (I want an actual opinion, not put downs, please!)
5. 1999 Honda S2000
6. 1995 Lexus SC 300
7. 2002 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V
8. 2003 Nissan 350Z
9. 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX
10. 1992 Toyota Supra Turbo...

1. I like the Mazda MX-6 better. Nicer exterior/interior. Better ride than the Probe GT, but it doesn't give up much in cornering. Sweet engine.
2. Fast, relatively expensive to repair, reliability so-so. Hard to find good examples used, as many have been driven hard an put away wet, if you know what I mean. Check it out VERY carefully if you are serious about buying.
3. Nice car. I'd buy one with no reservations. Put some better tires on it after you buy it: Stock Michelins are terrible.
4. Don't know anything about trucks.
5. Like the Talon, check this car out very carefully. Lots of drop-clutch starts at 7000 RPM will kill the driveline, and lots of people do it trying to match the acceleration number the magazines published. Great cars though. I'd love one.
6. Bulletproof but boring (easy to mod though, accepts all upgrades the Supra does).
7. Get a 2003. Read some SE-R forums... poor build quality the first year. Bad trannies, clutches, engines, etc. These are a great bargain in Canada though... excellend deal for $22k.
8. Wait for the RX-8. :) I like the G35 coupe better.
9. I'm a huge WRC fan, so I like the WRX a lot. Some days I think it would be better to go for a WRX since it'd be a better year-round driver with AWD. Go easy on the tranny though - its an old weak design not meant for 224 HP... read the forums. No drop-clutch starts for sure.
10. I like the RX-7 better. The Supra is heavy but awesome in a straight line. Hard to find.

Hey guys, wanna see somethin pathetic? Here, Wakeesh sent it to me...

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=385&stc=1&d=1284610531

yeah, nice wing too...:rolleyes:

Someone on my street has a new Hyundai Sonata that is bone stock (that really sounds weird) except for one of those huge aluminium, adjustable, rear wings. I laugh every time the guy or his wife drives by.:D

I feel sorry for you, your neighbour and your neighbours dog. Although, he might be able to pee on that work of crap. And no, I wasn't talking about the dog.

Reminds me of a "neon sport" in my area that has a giant aluminum wing and the words "neon sport" in italic cursive lettering over a checkerboard pattern. I keep forgetting to take out my digicam though... probably since I'm blinded every time I see it.

you guys have no idea...
i'll show you a REALLY yo'ed out Neon, and this priceless mustang... in another thread... ;)

go to Lounge: i'll call it "Misc Foomobile Pics" for all to post and enjoy... ;)

and potatohead, "keesh", if by that you're thinkin' that french egg pie stuff, is spelt "quiche" ;) heh heh...

Some of you may have seen this before- this is one of my favorite sites, even though it hasn't been updated in forever, it seems. I go every time I need a laugh (and every time I see the Geo Storm in our parking lot with "Quiet Storm" plastered across the hood and Bose stickers and some kind of tape that looks like paint decorating it):Click me! (http://www.riceboypage.com/)

It's too bad Brian quit updating that riceboy page. Here is a pick of me on his site. I have the white helmet on.

http://www.riceboypage.com/shame/hall_of_shame_8/auto-x_diablo-time.jpg

To be fair, I think Brian was a little harsh on the Diablo owner. I was the driving instructor.

Originally posted by Elara
Some of you may have seen this before- this is one of my favorite sites, even though it hasn't been updated in forever, it seems. I go every time I need a laugh (and every time I see the Geo Storm in our parking lot with "Quiet Storm" plastered across the hood and Bose stickers and some kind of tape that looks like paint decorating it):Click me! (http://www.riceboypage.com/) Oldie but a goodie :D

:D , A classic site none-the-less. I'm sure an anti- *bling-bling* 22"wheel Escalade site is in the works. With enough cash and cosmetic surgery, I suppose any......ahh.....nevermind.

Time to be objective so I'll shelve my opinions. Carry on. ;)

That is so funny. After I posted about the Hyundai last night, I remembered Brian's website and looked through the halls of shame again, myself. Definitely too bad it's no longer active.