With all the new consoles and big-hitting games coming out, i figure we might as well have a thread dedicated to gaming. This way I won't keep hijacking the individual gamer threads in regards to a seperate game.

That being stated...
Have any of you seen the trailers for Army of Two (for PS3 and 360)... HOLY CR*P IT LOOKS GOOD!!!!! The HD trailer is available on GameTrailers.com. I would definetely recommend checking it out.

-hS

Oh and also... whenever i get a PS3 (waiting for a decent game before I buy), I need to get a new TV as well. I left my TV back in Texas when i moved out, and need to get a new one.

I heard to get the full effect of the PS3 you need a 1080 dpi HDTV. Is that right???
Any input would be appreciated.

-hS

Oh and also... whenever i get a PS3 (waiting for a decent game before I buy), I need to get a new TV as well. I left my TV back in Texas when i moved out, and need to get a new one.

I heard to get the full effect of the PS3 you need a 1080 dpi HDTV. Is that right???
Any input would be appreciated.

-hS
You will also need to buy the cables for the ps3 to put out in HD, since it wont come with them. It'll end up being 800$ for a ps3, another control and a game, have fun with that....

I think ill buy a wii for now, and wait for the ps3 to drop in price.

You will also need to buy the cables for the ps3 to put out in HD, since it wont come with them. It'll end up being 800$ for a ps3, another control and a game, have fun with that....

I think ill buy a wii for now, and wait for the ps3 to drop in price.

good choice. i think the wii is going to be the best bang for the buck.

I'm a Wii man myself.

Zelda: Twilight Princess looks incredible. Everyone who has played it has said it's a serious contender for best game ever made, and it's good for 70 hours on the first go-round. Let's not forget Red Steel, Far Cry: Vengance, Madden 2007 (with Wii controls), and Rayman Raving Rabbids (hilarious).

All kinds of great games coming...Resident Evil, Mario, Metroid....yummy.

yup, you will need a 1080p tv to take full advantage of the blu ray capabilities... You will need to get HDMI cables to go from the ps3 and the tv... so the whole package looks to be very expensive... I too, will wait in price..

I think nintendo is going to bust the whole gaming industry open. What sony seems to have forgoten is that games are about fun, graphics are a side note. I'd rather play the best game ever with nes graphics, than play some weak game with 256bit graphics. I have always enjoyed nintendo's GUI and their games.

oh yeah, i was at E3 this year and saw that the wii had a 4hour line to demo vs. the PS3 that you could walk up to and play. wii is going to dominate with FUN GAME PLAY.

I'm an avid gamer of all sorts.

I'll most definately be getting a Wii, and I most definately will NOT be geting a PS3 until Sony get's off their High Horse and lowers that price. But to get the FULL effect of a PS3, yes.. You'll need HDTV, But it's jsut like a 360, as.. if you want the FULL effect you need the same.

Wii will be the best Bang for it's Buck out of it and the PS3.
If you've looked at or already own a 360, the two best pick-ups out of new releases are Gears of War and Splinter Cell: Double Agent.

In More 360 News, Today Contra was released on XBLA ( Arcade) and Yeah... I've downloaded it on my lunch break and will hit it up after work.

Again with Wii.... It's cheap, and it's going to hold alot more in stock a little more down the road than anyone thinks. I'm buying 3 Wii's. Myself, my Sister and my brother. And it'll still be cheaper than a PS3.

You will also need to buy the cables for the ps3 to put out in HD, since it wont come with them. It'll end up being 800$ for a ps3, another control and a game, have fun with that....

I think ill buy a wii for now, and wait for the ps3 to drop in price.I'm ok with that.

If you were to try to put the output of the PS3 into a convential PC... you would be paying a lot more than $800. At $600 its a bargain (including the cost of wires). When you get into buying additional games and controllers, your comparing apples to oranges.

I need to buy a new TV anyway, so I can't say the PS3 is going to cost an additional $3000. Thats just a retarded argument that holds no value.

I'll pass on the Wii.
The Gameplay Doesnt Appeal To Me.
- If i wanted to play tennis, i would pick up a raquet. If i want to weild a sword, i'll pick up a sword. I dont need a simiulator.
The Graphics S*ck.
- what is it the equivalent of the N64? f*ck that. This is 2006... i came to win.
I'm Not A Nintendo Wh*re.
- i dont give a cr*p about mario, zelda, metroid, or the other nintendo franchises. I didn't like them in the 80s, and I dont like them now. (SEGA FTW!!!)

I recognize i'm pretty unique. For most people a $200 system that is 'fun' and weak, is enough. If i was 4, i would probably still agree... but I need more, and i'm willing to pay for it.

-hS

im probably going to try and buy a ps3 when the come out, just to sell, maybe keep i havent made up my mind yet (i put a deposit on one) i def plan on keeping the wii tho.

my girlfriend still thinks its kinda excessive to have 3 systems, so im telling her she'll enjoy the tennis and golf on the WII

I'll pass on the Wii.
- what is it the equivalent of the N64? f*ck that. This is 2006... i came to win.

What are you talking about? Equivalent of the N64? Are you talking about power-wise? If you think that, you are horribly misinformed. Wii's power lies between the Xbox and Xbox 360. So far no one has pushed the console graphically.

Besides - I own a computer that is more powerful than the PS3. A console will never be able to keep up with graphic power of computers. And if I want to be a graphics whore (because who doesn't love amazing graphics every now and then), then I'll play games on my PC. I want a console to give me something my computer can't.


- i dont give a cr*p about mario, zelda, metroid, or the other nintendo franchises. I didn't like them in the 80s, and I dont like them now. (SEGA FTW!!!)

-hS

Sega games are being offered through Nintendo's virtual console (download service) as well. Sonic and a bunch of others.

I know the head of Sony Manhattan so I get dicounts on their products. Not sure if it will be on the PS3 though.

Why the PS3 over the Xbox360? Has anyone had a hands on with Gears of War or Call of Duty 3 yet? PS3 graphics better? I would be shocked and how if so how much better considering price difference? Gears of War looks amazing.

i will be getting the xbox soon enough especially with forza 2 coming out but just love the trailer for full metal gear? the one in japanses with Snake. Army one of looks pretty tight as well, is it a FPS? i like those :)

Why the PS3 over the Xbox360? Has anyone had a hands on with Gears of War or Call of Duty 3 yet? PS3 graphics better? I would be shocked and how if so how much better considering price difference? Gears of War looks amazing.

Yeh.. And, XBOX would win vs. online gaming. At least from what I've seen so far..

Sega games are being offered through Nintendo's virtual console (download service) as well. Sonic and a bunch of others.From what i've seen (definetely with sonic) those games are multiplatform.

Like all multiplatform games in the past, the ones on the best platform will have the best graphics because the system has a better engine... gameplay and what not is usually the same. Good example is Soul Calibur II... Xbox, PS2, and Game Cube all at the same time. The one on XBOX looked best because XBOX was the most poweful system. THis time around... (PS3, 360, and Wii)... PS3's system has the most capacity.

-hS

Why the PS3 over the Xbox360? Has anyone had a hands on with Gears of War or Call of Duty 3 yet? PS3 graphics better? I would be shocked and how if so how much better considering price difference? Gears of War looks amazing.Thats the difference bewteen BlueRay and HD, and also the difference in Sony's revolutionary new processor versus the conventional one in the 360.

From what i've seen (definetely with sonic) those games are multiplatform.

Like all multiplatform games in the past, the ones on the best platform will have the best graphics because the system has a better engine... gameplay and what not is usually the same. Good example is Soul Calibur II... Xbox, PS2, and Game Cube all at the same time. The one on XBOX looked best because XBOX was the most poweful system. THis time around... (PS3, 360, and Wii)... PS3's system has the most capacity.

-hS

No, I mean like games for Sega Genesis.

Yeh.. And, XBOX would win vs. online gaming. At least from what I've seen so far..To meet that is the final missing variable. Will PS3s online network be up to par with 360? Thats MS's strongest selling point.

The way i see it...
Wii - Cheap, Poor Graphics, Poor Processor, but very "fun"
360 - Average Priced, Great Graphics and Processor, Best Online Play
PS3 - Most Expensive, Best Graphics and Processor, Unkown Online Play???

PS3 has supposedly put a huge focus on online play, but i'll wait to see it before i believe it. If it blows... i'm getting a 360.

-hS

No, I mean like games for Sega Genesis.oh, heheh. my bad. Damn, sega is now one with Nintendo. My childhood battle has been lost :(

I'm just gonna hold back and wait to see where SE decides to take its RpG games. XBox360 still has the stigma from the orginal XBox as the FPS game console and well I dont play/like those that much, so buying a console and not having a very good libary of games I like wouldnt be that smart. I do know that XBox360 has FFXI Online but thats just one RPG game from SE. I wanna hear about a full FF game or another coming out either JUST for XBox360 (standard 1-2 year exclusive contract of course :) ) and I might be swayed.

I'm also waiting on PS3's online play. Been hearing (from nonlegit sourse's RE:Co-workers) that its a XBoxLive killa, but its obviously to early to call.

Overall I just wish the PS3 was a tad bit cheaper I see this as the one major weak spot of the system.

I think nintendo is going to bust the whole gaming industry open. What sony seems to have forgoten is that games are about fun, graphics are a side note. I'd rather play the best game ever with nes graphics, than play some weak game with 256bit graphics. I have always enjoyed nintendo's GUI and their games.

Fact of the matter is.. all the better more involving games come out for Sony and Xbox.... I dont know why you think Sony games arent fun.

Its hard to compare the consoles as their target markets are different, but Nintendo always seems to drop the ball and come in third for the last 10 or so years. Nintendo games can be fun but they are "10 minute" fun for the most part...they're for when you are hanging with your lil nephew.

Here is one major difference between ps3 and the 360 that most people forget. programming for the 360 is much easier. It uses almost the same coding as a regular computer does. This opens up room for all of the PC game companies to release games for a console. a huge example for this is gears of war. it was made by the same company that did Unreal. another good example is bungie. they started as PC with Marathon and such and has traversed to XBOX with one of the best selling series ever made called HALO.

I used to be a Nintendo fan, but as soon as I played Xbox for myself, I was an instant convert. Don't get me wrong, Nintendo isn't bad, but their audience aim is a little younger than I am.

what games are coming out for ps3 that are BIG titles? Like, what are people are exited for already?

-Steakboy

having the best graphics only gets you so far. dropping $600+ on a PS3 for basially better graphics and nothing else is hard to swallow. heck, even the controller is about the same. there's nothing revolutionary about it. and force feeding people the Blu Ray technology so they have their asses covered in the future is not the way to go.

the Wii has a lot going for it...even with graphics. while not on the same level obviously as the 360 or PS3, the graphics are still very good...being twice as good as the gamecube. but with a new control system, their virtual console, and fresh thinking, all for $250, it's very hard to argue that Wii "sucks" merely because the graphics are inferior to the others. I for one happen to like everything the Wii has going for it, and would gladly pay for something that is LESS THAN HALF the cost of PS3...hands down.

I'll stick with my PS2 and Final Fantasy XII for a while, that is until Twilight Princess takes up all my free time.

mugatu where u at in ff12?

im on my way gettin the nethicite sword and these enemies are whores.

Well the biggest thing for me is the actual games... which is where PS dominates... they have the most amount of games released many of which are stellar... next in line is Xbox

I wouldnt buy a PS3 now because

a) They always skim the market high and drop down in a year

b) There are no games...now...... but it will take off like wildfire very soon as it always had in the past.

That said... my next console is most likely a PS3 in about a year and a half.

Yeah Wii is great value especially when considering its half the cost, but whats the point saving money on a console when the games just dont appeal to you? I'd rather pay 600 quid and actually WANT to play my consol rather than pay 250 bux for something thats just gonna gather dust

man the only 1080p tvs ive seen are huge and 15k plus, i guess thats where the ps3 pricing came in.

mugatu where u at in ff12?

im on my way gettin the nethicite sword and these enemies are whores.

i just started it and am about 8 hours in. i'm in the Sky World with some little kid.

also, i feel like this sums up the PS3:

"Next-generation consoles exist to deliver game experiences the previous generation could never deliver. That's their sole purpose in this life. So when a game comes along offering a strange mix of cutting-edge visuals but also tired gameplay, one can't help but feel a little cheated."

if youre in the lhusu mines in buhjera i strongly recommend you to level up there as it helps for the next 10+ hours( i got all chars up to like 22/21) youre going to run into. its the early game high money/exp/lic point hotspot.

man the only 1080p tvs ive seen are huge and 15k plus, i guess thats where the ps3 pricing came in.


I am not a sony fan by any means but just wanted to show you there are cheap 1080p tv's out there.

42in LCD Flat Panel (http://www.amazon.com/Westinghouse-LVM-42W2-1080p-LCD-HDTV/dp/B000E7RACK/sr=8-1/qid=1163085608/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-5089588-5479162?ie=UTF8&s=electronics)

A Samsung 50in DLP (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-HL-S5087W-1080p-DLP-HDTV/dp/B000F2R5HO/sr=8-5/qid=1163085608/ref=pd_bbs_sr_5/104-5089588-5479162?ie=UTF8&s=electronics)

Its amazing how fast the 1080p tv's have come down in price. If these except a 1080p signal over HDMI is another story.

Nintendo games can be fun but they are "10 minute" fun for the most part...they're for when you are hanging with your lil nephew.

Half of the games are 10 minute fun, like you describe. These are aimed at non-gamers. Nintendo is trying to expand their market in a manner similar to what they did with Nintendo DS.

The other half are deep and long (that's what she said), and for the "hardcore" gamer. Zelda will be plenty immersive, and will be a 70 hour adventure...this is not 100% completion, it's just beating the last boss. I don't know if you've ever played any of the Metroid Prime series, but again - plenty immersive, and plenty long. I fully expect capcom to repeat their Gamecube success on Wii with Resident Evil games. Of course there will also be RE offerings for PS3. There are plenty of other "hardcore" games coming out like Red Steel, Far Cry: Vengance, the new Mario (which looks MUCH better than the previous few offerings), Sadness, etc.

And I guess Super Smash Bros. Brawl finds its way in the middle of the two (hey, it has Solid Snake, c'mon).


Honestly, I'd get a PS3 also if it weren't so damn expensive. I'm a big Final Fantasy fan, but FF games for nintendo systems have sucked in the last 10 years. I'll just be a graphics whore on my PC.

Nintendo is trying to expand their market in a manner similar to what they did with Nintendo DS. .

If nintendo expects the same success with Wii as with the DS based on the same premises... they are in for a disappointment. A good part of DS's ability to reach non gamers is the portability of it. A non gamer may buy one to kill time on long commutes (like my wife who owns one)... but a non gamer is not going to sit down infront of their TV at home doing this because theres other things they'd rather do being at home (like my wife who will never own one lol)

The other half are deep and long (that's what she said), and for the "hardcore" gamer. Zelda will be plenty immersive, and will be a 70 hour adventure...this is not 100% completion, it's just beating the last boss. I don't know if you've ever played any of the Metroid Prime series, but again - plenty immersive, and plenty long. .


Right, but games like those on Nes consoles never constitute half of the games (unless you are looking at game play time)..its always been like that though... full of "family" games with Zelda and Metroid as their primary saving grace with the older crowd (who happen to make up the majority of gamers)

I fully expect capcom to repeat their Gamecube success on Wii with Resident Evil games. Of course there will also be RE offerings for PS3. There are plenty of other "hardcore" games coming out like Red Steel, Far Cry: Vengance, the new Mario (which looks MUCH better than the previous few offerings), Sadness, etc.

And I guess Super Smash Bros. Brawl finds its way in the middle of the two (hey, it has Solid Snake, c'mon).


Im not saying Wii has nothing (because it does have a few things).. but fact of the matter is, if you're not into "family" oriented games (Which most gamers probably arent due to demographics of the bulk of the target market).. the Wii is not the best choice

I hope Nintendo has success with the Wii, I have a funny feeling if this system tanks we'll see Nintendo taking the direction Sega had to.

I also see a price drop for the PS3 coming sooner than a year.

Nintendo has plenty of money making franchises. They dont depend on teh Wii's possible sales for that so they wotn be going anywere.

While the Wii is basically a GC with new controllers, the gameplay looks fun so I'll be buying one to complement the 360. Always loved my GC, even if the games kinda dried up pretty quick. The PS3 will wait a long ass time for me. I didnt buy a PS2 because of the BS when it was released (not enough units, price gouging) and since the PS3 launch is going to be even worse, thats that. Maybe if Sony pulls it's head out of it's ass I'll get one down the road, but the current pricing/corporate attitude tells me I wont be buying one anytime soon. Besides the only game that I saw that I would get it for I have yet to get a hands on to test it out, and having been buying games for a very long time I have been burned enough to know to wait until i get to try it before I buy it.

Somewhat sad that Sony has managed to bug me enough 2 hardware gens in a row to not buy their stuff, when up until the PS2 release I have owned every single game console put out.

Aside from consoles, anyone playing Battlefield 2142 on the PC?

I'm buying a PS3 to play PS2 games. The launch lineup for the PS3 is the suck right now. I'm not interested in any of the games coming out for it except maybe the Gundam game. Eventually, they'll have Ninja Gaiden Sigma, DMC4 and probably some other neat games I'll like. If I see the prices of a PS3 skyrocket on Ebay, I'll just flip it and pocket the money until it drops.

I'm definitely buying a Wii. I'm big on gameplay and control methods over graphics. That and Super Smash Bros. Solid.

Aside from consoles, anyone playing Battlefield 2142 on the PC?
I haven't played it, but I heard from two friends of mine who were big on BF2 that they didn't like it. They made it too team based or something.

I'm a bit out of touch though. I didn't even know they changed BF2 to disallow Spec Ops from tossing C4. That sucks.

If nintendo expects the same success with Wii as with the DS based on the same premises... they are in for a disappointment. A good part of DS's ability to reach non gamers is the portability of it. A non gamer may buy one to kill time on long commutes (like my wife who owns one)... but a non gamer is not going to sit down infront of their TV at home doing this because theres other things they'd rather do being at home (like my wife who will never own one lol)

You're definitely right to a degree...it's not going to reach EVERYONE.

But from talking to people who USED to play games, and don't anymore because they're becoming more and more complicated - they still love those old games with a simple style. They want something that they can pick up and quickly understand. Millions of buttons confuse them. Most of this group consists of people 40+, but goes as young as 25 or so. And guess what? To these people who already have a carreer and some money sitting around - $250 isn't a big price to pay to relive something they used to love. I still think this console will grab the attention of SOME people who are totally non-gamers, but as you said, the handheld market is more ripe for them.


Personally, I love adult-oriented games. Deep? Complicated? Great! These types of games were rare on the Gamecube, but I still found there were plenty of great games. I own 20 GC games (pretty much the only 20 that were great), but that's plenty of games for one person to own. I bet I'll get the same amount (if not a few more) for Wii. I'm pretty attached to some of the franchises by now (Zelda, Mario, Metroid, etc), so I value playing those the most. I think Nintendo can always count on the fanboys haha

Edit: One other thing - look at how many people quickly responded that they were getting only the Wii, or getting the Wii with another system? The Wii has had a great media buzz so far, and I think it's poised to be the top seller this holiday season. 1 million units for launch, 4 million units by the end of the year are available!

You can't toss C4 in BF2 anymore?! Thats too bad. BF2 has this new mode thats very similar to tribes. You have to attack the opposing teams "titan" which is basically an airborne aircraft carrier. The first part of the game starts on the ground, holding missle silos to beat down the shields enough to allow it to be boarded. You can then let all the missles do all the work, or fly up there and get down and dirty.

I was a big tribes fan, liked BF2. I think it is pretty fun (based on the demo.) However I need to wait to buy the game because I'm sure it will force me to buy a new computer. I'm already barely able to keep myself off the new dual-SLI setup. :)

Yeah, the guy who sits in the cube next to mine plays a lot. He said that you need to crouch to place C4 now. =T

I want a crossfire board for my machine, but I can't even get any watercooling done for another month at least. Stupid movers busted up my frame.


I think everyone should play Katamari Damacy. It's such a good, simple game. And, it's non-violent.

Gaming - i wish i had more time to do it but work and my personal life kinda suck a lot of time.

When the 360 came out, I will admit I wanted one. But no way in hell i was going to skip work, stand in a line for 36 hours, and pay all that money.

After they were in stock all over the place - i picked one up, learned how to copy and burn game onto a dual layer DVDr and play that way. I do buy the games that are WORTH 60 bucks though - (picked up gears of war last night)

Other games WORTHY of my money are thing like dead rising, full auto, and Burnout

I have no interest in the PS3, the 360 was expensive enough. the PC is still my favorite gaming medium. The bloated price of the PS3 - rather unimpressive games at launch.. MEH to the whole thing. I've never even owned a PS2 or PS1 for that matter

I'd like to see the Wii kick some ass - Nintendo is due for a big comeback and Sony is due for a big slap in the face. They have had so much shit flying around their company the past few years. I'm not a big enough gamer to have two consoles, so I probably wont be getting a Wii anytime soon. What sad already is renting games at blockbuster and copying them - have like 10 games i havent really even played more then 5 minutes each cuz I just dont have time.

Eventually, they'll have Ninja Gaiden Sigma, DMC4 and probably some other neat games I'll like. If I see the prices of a PS3 skyrocket on Ebay, I'll just flip it and pocket the money until it drops.

Werd. I hadn't planned on buying a Wii honestly, I didn't own a gamecube and that didn't really bother me, but the new Zelda game looks like it's going to be great. If it's good enough, I guess I'll be buying a Wii afterall.......

i have a 360, am getting a PS 3 and i think im gonna skip the Wii, i might pick it up because its cheap, but nintendo was great when i was 10. (although the zelda game looks great...enticing)

Gaming - i wish i had more time to do it but work and my personal life kinda suck a lot of time.

When the 360 came out, I will admit I wanted one. But no way in hell i was going to skip work, stand in a line for 36 hours, and pay all that money.

After they were in stock all over the place - i picked one up, learned how to copy and burn game onto a dual layer DVDr and play that way. I do buy the games that are WORTH 60 bucks though - (picked up gears of war last night)

Other games WORTHY of my money are thing like dead rising, full auto, and Burnout

I have no interest in the PS3, the 360 was expensive enough. the PC is still my favorite gaming medium. The bloated price of the PS3 - rather unimpressive games at launch.. MEH to the whole thing. I've never even owned a PS2 or PS1 for that matter

I'd like to see the Wii kick some ass - Nintendo is due for a big comeback and Sony is due for a big slap in the face. They have had so much shit flying around their company the past few years. I'm not a big enough gamer to have two consoles, so I probably wont be getting a Wii anytime soon. What sad already is renting games at blockbuster and copying them - have like 10 games i havent really even played more then 5 minutes each cuz I just dont have time.

Please post your opinion of Gears of war in the thread I made cause I wanna know what people think of it who have played it. I'm gunna get it either way, but I'd still like to know.

Thread here: http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=102959

-Steakboy

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/816/816122/vids_1.html

Watch this vid...this game is pretty and it has style :)

i have a 360, am getting a PS 3 and i think im gonna skip the Wii, i might pick it up because its cheap, but nintendo was great when i was 10. (although the zelda game looks great...enticing)
Interesting. You just read my mind, almost word for word. Kinda funny actually, I saved for months when I was a kid just to get a N64....the main reason, Zelda:Ocarina of Time...... :Freak_ani

what games are coming out for ps3 that are BIG titles? Like, what are people are exited for already?

-Steakboy

The new Unreall Torn is coming out for the PS3 also. so makes me wonder if Gear of Wars would be on the ps3 in the future . Since Gears of war is using the UT engine. but yah ill be playing Burning Crusade till the ps3 price drops.

Interesting. You just read my mind, almost word for word. Kinda funny actually, I saved for months when I was a kid just to get a N64....the main reason, Zelda:Ocarina of Time...... :Freak_ani
im not shocked we have the same birthday, have the same car, have similar interests, (appears your fave game is MGS, me too), we're prolly the same person in different time zones, and if we were to meet we'd prolly kill eachother because there can be only one.

im not shocked we have the same birthday, have the same car, have similar interests, (appears your fave game is MGS, me too), we're prolly the same person in different time zones, and if we were to meet we'd prolly kill eachother because there can be only one.
Hmm...your right, I forgot about the birthday thing, interesting.... ahh poop. I had a really witty remark about time travel or alternate dimensions, but it escapes me now :cwm27::cwm27::cwm27: Curses..........

^^ this is why im the one that will prolly survive :D

Ha!

LOLOLOL wow I guess you guys smoke the same crack too! :P

I haven't been much excited about the console world since Mario 64. I'm thinking about my Wii right now though, and it looks damn good.

Has anyone else heard the j*w scam theyre pulling with GT HD? Where you have to buy the components of the game you want to play.

I read somewhere that if you wanted to unlock all the stuff from GT 4 in it... the total will be near $750. F*CK THAT. I think i may skip it and just wait for GT 5. Then again... i can play Deep Forest - JGTC MRS - No Assistance... all day long. Especially if I can play it online with other people.

-hS

^^Yah, that's pretty wack! Bastards!

Oh and also... whenever i get a PS3 (waiting for a decent game before I buy), I need to get a new TV as well. I left my TV back in Texas when i moved out, and need to get a new one.

I heard to get the full effect of the PS3 you need a 1080 dpi HDTV. Is that right???
Any input would be appreciated.

-hS


Not necessarily-- Here's a good read from CNET.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6661274-1.html?tag=ms

Although I fell into the 1080p hype... I love my set.

I am not a sony fan by any means but just wanted to show you there are cheap 1080p tv's out there.

42in LCD Flat Panel (http://www.amazon.com/Westinghouse-LVM-42W2-1080p-LCD-HDTV/dp/B000E7RACK/sr=8-1/qid=1163085608/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-5089588-5479162?ie=UTF8&s=electronics)

A Samsung 50in DLP (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-HL-S5087W-1080p-DLP-HDTV/dp/B000F2R5HO/sr=8-5/qid=1163085608/ref=pd_bbs_sr_5/104-5089588-5479162?ie=UTF8&s=electronics)

Its amazing how fast the 1080p tv's have come down in price. If these except a 1080p signal over HDMI is another story.

That is the same sammy I bought in May. And yes they do accept 1080p via HDMI. With the recent 360 updates -- they now have a 1080p option instead of 1080i, GOW looks amazing in this set.

Holy Crap.. 1649 for that Samsung... NICE!!

Seeing how good games for the PS3 are probably at least 6 months away... the price of a comparable TV will probably be down by then. I'm definetely holding off on the TV purchase until I get something I need it for (the console) because right now its pretty rare I watch TV.

-hS

u need a HD TV to take advantage of the 360 - not just the ps3 - the 360 looks like ass on regular tv......imho

I am also waiting on ps3 until a good game [I could skip it but I mostly get em all-keep competition alive] - I love my 360 and I play mad pc games - I will have a wii......

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/816/816122/vids_1.html

Watch this vid...this game is pretty and it has style :)Heres an HD version of the trailer...
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=10857&type=mov&pl=game

That looked great, and really interesting. Too bad they didnt show any gameplay footage. Here's the difference between Wii and PS3... on the PS3 that live action footage is pretty accurate to what the game itself would look like. A good example of that is the Army of 2 trailer.
On Wii the game play footage would look closer to the orignal mario bros then a live action film.

is it just me, but is pretending to throw a rope... not the funnest thing in the world??

-hS

Not necessarily-- Here's a good read from CNET.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6661274-1.html?tag=ms

Although I fell into the 1080p hype... I love my set.That article was a complete waste of time. They compared 5 different types of TVs from 5 different manufacturers in 5 different sizes. And their 1080p output test only worked on 2 of the TVs.

There are so many other variables in that test... that the results are completely worthless. Oh, and i'm not saying 1080p is better or not... im just saying whoever wrote that article needs to do some better research before trying to make a conclusion.

-hS

I just got a Samsung 46" LCD 1080p. I'm going to let it go to waste by playing Wii and GC games on it, but I don't care. :D

damn, go away for a few days and look at all the crap people post!

anyway, I'll quote Nolan Bushnell. "People buy software, not hardware"

It doesn't matter if it's easier to program for 360, or the wii has the uber controller, or the ps3 has the cell processor.

What matters is the games.

I think sony is going to lose some ground, but they're still the 800lb gorilla.

The wii has a very interesting product and I hope it works for them like the DS. I have both a DS and a PSP and my PSP is nothing more than a very expensive paperweight. The DS however entertains me every day and between the excellent japanese and american releases, I'm never at a lull for great games.

The 360 has some killer titles out right now, like Saint's Row and Gears of War. Currently the PS3 can't compete in software and it's clear from their supply issues and day zero firmware update that the system is not ready.

For me personally, I'm getting the Wii on sunday and the 360 after the holidays. I imagine it will be some time before I entertain the thought of purchasing a ps3.

I just got a Samsung 46" LCD 1080p. I'm going to let it go to waste by playing Wii and GC games on it, but I don't care. :D DIAF.

Dammit! My 360 jes blew up! Now I gotta put up with the stupid warranty crap ;_;

what happened?????

Uh....not sure really, I just turned it on and the little light on the front turned red instead of green. Something is wrong with the hard drive apparently, so now I gotta send it in, wait for the temporary replacement hard drive, and cross my fingers and hope I don't lose all my saved games:/

DIAF.
<3

:kiss:

The wii has a very interesting product and I hope it works for them like the DS. I have both a DS and a PSP and my PSP is nothing more than a very expensive paperweight. The DS however entertains me every day and between the excellent japanese and american releases, I'm never at a lull for great games.



Its funny you say that .... especially your argument about the importance of an abundance of good games, which I completely agree with you on (this is why PS and Xbox will always dominate over the competeting nintendo sys)

we have a DS and my brother has a PSP.

I'd trade him my DS for his PSP in a heart beat... but he wouldnt take it because he knows there is just no comparison at just about every single level of evaluation :( ... graphics, abundance of games, versatility, fun factor.... the DS simply loses every time..... the only thing it does better in is price but your simply paying less for much less IMHO

Aside from a small handful of games... the DS has utter garbage.... the PSP is loaded with cool games to play.

I'm not knocking the DS, its a better alternative for some depending on what you want out of a portable gaming console.... but for myself and probably most gamers there is no comparison.

I'm not knocking the DS, its a better alternative for some depending on what you want out of a portable gaming console.... but for myself and probably most gamers there is no comparison.

No?

Aside from a small handful of games... the DS has utter garbage


Seriously though, I do admire Nintendo for trying to be innovative. I'd rather have a handful of teriffic games than a buttload of mediocrity with better graphics.

No?.

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No I am not... Nintendo did well with the DS in capturing a part of the market that wasnt there before... non gamers... kudos to them. and as what i said in your quote.. it can be a better alternative depending on teh type of games you prefer

. I'd rather have a handful of teriffic games than a buttload of mediocrity with better graphics.

but thats the thing, PS and XBOX may have alot of mediocre games... but they also have a lot more good games than Nintendo has..... its a numbers game, and you dont have to buy the mediocre games....theres simply more good games available to you which flat out means more fun

The entire problem with the PSP is if I wanted to play <insert game here> I'd just play it on my playstation 2.

Thats why the psp loses.

Sony loses no matter what...

-Steakboy

The entire problem with the PSP is if I wanted to play <insert game here> I'd just play it on my playstation 2.

Thats why the psp loses.

uhh.. yeah but PSP is portable??? you cant take your PS2 with you on a commute can you? and the PSP games are different.... they arent verbatim at all

same thing could be said for DS and game cube... same type of games... except DS uses a stylus which in some cases is good and other cases is stupid....balances out

sounds like we're just at different stages of gaming and have different tastes.

Do you like the ps3? I think it's a colossal POS and wouldn't waste my 600 bucks on it.

However I love the Wii, I bet you think it's stupid and the controller is garbage.

Different strokes for different folks.

Numbers don't lie though and the DS is destroying the PSP in sales.

Im going to wait at Best buy maybe starting tomorrow night. See if I can get one.

Damn it, 600 is expensive but I think the system itself cost maybe at least 1 K.

I will get Wii as well.

I have a semi-in a the local Best Buy. I'm gonna see what I can do. I was informed not to worry about getting a Wii, but a PS3 will be difficult from the stock numbers.

sounds like we're just at different stages of gaming and have different tastes.

Do you like the ps3? I think it's a colossal POS and wouldn't waste my 600 bucks on it.

However I love the Wii, I bet you think it's stupid and the controller is garbage.

Different strokes for different folks.

Numbers don't lie though and the DS is destroying the PSP in sales.

Yeah seems like we are differnt gamers..

yeah I do like PS3... and yeah I think Wii is a massive waste of cash and would never ever consider it. 250 on a Wii would just be 250 for a peice of electronic furniture that'll hardly ever be touched and end up being one more thing the wife has to dust hehe ... for me.. 600 on a PS3 that I actually want to use is a better deal than 250 for something to sit there and collect dust :)

DS is beating PSP in sales because it captured the non gaming market completely... this however in no way indicates that its a superior system... dont even try to argue that.

TODreamer, and I say this with total respect...you're coming off a bit like a fan-boy. Just FYI.


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Then again, some other people are sounding like Nintendo fan-boys. lol Just get w/e floats your boat people. :Freak_ani

TODreamer, and I say this with total respect...you're coming off a bit like a fan-boy. Just FYI

no.. just a gamer who knows what works for him...and its just not Wii (not with PS3 and Xbox live on the market)... why does that make me a fanboy?

Just the way your end of the conversation was sounding. Then again, it could just be my interpretation...spoken words vs typed words, you lose alot.

Oh and here are some quick screen shots I took of some video I recieved today of people already waiting in line for the PS3:

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/9353/waiting2wy3.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8603/waitingzh2.jpg

good lord do i look like that? lol

I still can't believe people are already waiting in line...the biggest shocker, and maybe it's cause I'm poor....HOW THE !@#$ do so many people have 600 bucks to blow on a video game console!?

Yesterday I bought a 46" Sony Bravia XBR 1080 HDTV :Eyecrazy:

Now all I need is a PS3!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anyone gaming a 360 on this TV?

i have a 40" Sony LCD XBR 1080 and gears of war for the xbox is just nasty on it

Did yall see the news reports from Japan before they're release. The lines at the stores there were in the 1000s. A lot of those people were buying the system to keep, seems like a lot of people here are just buying to sell. Then again they only got 100k consoles. The US is getting more.

If its anything like the 360... the ebay price mark up wont last long. With the 360 everybody and their mom had one on ebay for sale. I know a guy who got 3 systems on the day of release and lost money on ebay. HA!!!!!

-hS

I still can't believe people are already waiting in line...the biggest shocker, and maybe it's cause I'm poor....HOW THE !@#$ do so many people have 600 bucks to blow on a video game console!?


I could be wrong but those look like guys who live at home :D

When does the PS3 actually release?

-Steakboy

When does the PS3 actually release?

-Steakboy

Friday morning

nothing like waiting in line for 3 days just to pay 600 bucks

-Steakboy

I could be wrong but those look like guys who live at home :DLOL!!

I have a semi-in a the local Best Buy. I'm gonna see what I can do. I was informed not to worry about getting a Wii, but a PS3 will be difficult from the stock numbers.

Define 'semi-in' por favor

My friends started camping out today at the local walmart...I just said no way. If I can get some kinda hook-up tomorrow at a best buy, that would be awesome.

I need mod money! Catback, intake, springs, rims...*drool*

Yesterday I bought a 46" Sony Bravia XBR 1080 HDTV :Eyecrazy:

Now all I need is a PS3!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anyone gaming a 360 on this TV?
I wanted that one, but couldn't rationalize paying 1k more over the Samsung (It took a long time to decide that). So, I got the Korean one. I'm pleased. Tell me how yours is though. I felt that the color depth on the Sony was better on the dark colors than the Samsung.

By the way, to all you "mature" gamers out there:

http://www.theesa.com/facts/top_10_facts.php

Rated M games only account for about 15% of the total market. If Nintendo spent the extra money to gear toward that market, they would only be alienating the other 85%. I feel that those who like to play only violent games are simply more vocal. It's probably a personality thing.

PS3 launch titles:
* Call of Duty 3
* Fight Night: Round 3
* flOw
* Full Auto 2: Battlelines
* Genji: Days of the Blade
* Madden NFL 07
* Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
* Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire
* NBA 07
* NBA 2K7
* NHL 2K7
* Need for Speed: Carbon
* Resistance: Fall of Man
* Ridge Racer 7
* Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2007
* Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
* Tony Hawk's Project 8
* Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom

The only games I'm remotely interested in are Gundam and R6 Vegas. These launch titles blow. I'm waiting for Devil May Cry 4, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Metal Gear Solid 4, Resident Evil 5, Lair, Warhawk, Assassin's Creed, Gran Turismo HD and Final Fantasy XIII. They've delivered nothing in the teaser trailer except the Gundam game which didn't look nearly as impressive as Armored Core 4.

As for the Wii, I'm currently interested in Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Red Steel, Trauma Center: Second Opinion and I plan to get an import copy of Elebits.

We'll see which console wins my heart later on. Until then, I'll be playing Ouendan and Cooking Mama on my DS.

Define 'semi-in' por favor

My friends started camping out today at the local walmart...I just said no way. If I can get some kinda hook-up tomorrow at a best buy, that would be awesome.

I need mod money! Catback, intake, springs, rims...*drool*
The guy I bought my TV from said that he'll save me a spot in line. He's going to end up working that night or something. I'll have more details tomorrow. No way in hell am I waiting on a line when I should be at work.

but they also have a lot more good games than Nintendo has..... its a numbers game, and you dont have to buy the mediocre games....theres simply more good games available to you which flat out means more fun

Did you have a PS2? How many games did you buy? There are only so many games one person will buy.

I've bought many gamecube games, and have kept 25. Each of these are excellent games in their own way, and have provided plenty of entertainment. To be fair, I wouldn't buy any other games on the system but possibly one or two more...but I think the number I have now is plenty. Who says I have to buy mediocre games?

wii does not have high definition output as far as i can tell... 360 and ps3 both now support up to 1080p...case closed welcome to the future.

Isn't assassin's creed gunna be multi-platform, or is it gunna be just PS3?

-Steakboy

wii does not have high definition output as far as i can tell... 360 and ps3 both now support up to 1080p...case closed welcome to the future.

I agree. That's simply bullshit. Even the gamecube supports high definition.

Isn't assassin's creed gunna be multi-platform, or is it gunna be just PS3?

-Steakboy


It will defently be on the xbox 360 as well, there was even talk the that crowd is going to be better on the 360 then the ps3.

Did you have a PS2? How many games did you buy? There are only so many games one person will buy.

I've bought many gamecube games, and have kept 25. Each of these are excellent games in their own way, and have provided plenty of entertainment. To be fair, I wouldn't buy any other games on the system but possibly one or two more...but I think the number I have now is plenty. Who says I have to buy mediocre games?

I did have a PS2 and between my brother and I we bought a crap load of games...much more games than I'd be interested in buying for the Gamecube (honestly). Dont ask me how much because I really dont know, its a lot though.

I'm not saying you have to buy mediocre games... that was exactly my point.

Someone had said the PS sucked becasue while there are a lot of games, it is loaded with many mediocre games. My arguement was that while there are a lot of mediocre games for the PS, there are also more great games as well (numbers game)...you dont have to buy mediocre games.. just the good ones.

It will defently be on the xbox 360 as well, there was even talk the that crowd is going to be better on the 360 then the ps3.

That wouldn't surprise me actually. That game looked amazing.

-Steakboy

^
+1

Assassin's creed is multiplatform.

Do TOD and I come off sounding like fanboys? I don't think so. I agree with TOD in that we just know what we like. I was a very late DS owner because I thought the touch screen was a gimmick, but once the lite came out I decided I'd take another look at the DS. Come to find that I really enjoy it and I now think the touch screen is amazing.

With that comes my lust for the Wii. I'm basically thinking DS on a bigger scale. Especially after having played the Wii.

Some interesting numbers coming out of japan now though. Out of the ~80,000 PS3's available ~15,000 people bought a PS3 with no games, do you think they plan on pawning them off? I think so.

I agree. That's simply bullshit. Even the gamecube supports high definition. Gamecube and the Wii support 480p. Gamecube never supported any resolutions higher than that.

do you think they plan on pawning them off? I think so.


perhaps...

maybe some bought it now with hopes of future use because didnt like any of the release games. If I remember back its always been like that with PS consols... very few titles on release and within a year a mudslide of games begin lambaste the market.

Me personally... I'm waiting a year and a half before I even pick up the consol for a couple reasons:

1) We are saving up for a house

2) I'm married now so I have to defend my spending habbits from someone lol. the wife will have something to say if I spend that kind of money before a house purchase (Thats just not me anyways, my priorities arent that messed up lol)

I wasn't really sure where else to put this. So, I figured this was as good of a place as any. Today, a screen shot was released by bungie. It's from Halo 3 (duh). Here is a link for it. It is utterly huge! 2560x1440

http://www.bungie.net/images/news/inlineimages/AnniversaryMCNewsweekLrg.jpg

make sure you zoom in on it and see the beautiful detail. Remember, this is an in-game screen cap.

-Steakboy

Damn you Websense!!! Argh.... >_< I can't see it ;_;

I have it saved, pm me ur e-mail and ill send it to you. its actually 2.48mb.

-Steakboy

I thought the touch screen was a gimmick, but once the lite came out I decided I'd take another look at the DS. Come to find that I really enjoy it and I now think the touch screen is amazing.

With that comes my lust for the Wii. I'm basically thinking DS on a bigger scale.

amen. i felt the same way about the DS when it first came out gimmick gimmick but then i realized that new ways to interact with a game physically actually enhance the gameplay in some respects.

Could you imagine DOA on a movement enhanced controller?

-Steakboy

Assassin's creed is multiplatform.

Do TOD and I come off sounding like fanboys? I don't think so. I agree with TOD in that we just know what we like. I was a very late DS owner because I thought the touch screen was a gimmick, but once the lite came out I decided I'd take another look at the DS. Come to find that I really enjoy it and I now think the touch screen is amazing.

With that comes my lust for the Wii. I'm basically thinking DS on a bigger scale. Especially after having played the Wii.
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I agree, the DS is pretty pimp, I thought it was ghey at first but now I really like it and haven't touched my PSP since, but on the other hand I see where TOD is coming from. It's all about the games, not the system. Sony and Microsoft just have more of the kinda games I prefer. Gamecube is the only system of the last generation I didn't own and I can only think of a few times in which I wanted one.

Playstation has Devil May Cry, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Gran Turismo, Okami, MGS, I could go on forever. Microsoft has KOTOR, Oblivion, Project Gotham Racing, DOA, Halo, ect. Gamecube has what.........Smasher Bros.!? I mean, don't get me wrong there were a few others.. RE4, (that didn't last long though), and Metroid, Zelda(that got pushed to the Wii though right?)...that's it though.

So, I'm waiting to make a decision on the Wii. Sony has already got my money, just because of the heavy hitters DMC, MGS, FF. Wii only has Zelda so far (although I haven't really looked at Wii games much), and I'm not sure that's worth the price of a Wii just yet.......

PM sent.

See, the problem I have with the PS3 is that Sony is slowly losing its stranglehold on the third party.

Devil May Cry, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Gran Turismo, Okami, MGS,

The only game they actually will positively have exclusive is Gran Turismo. All the other games are made by third parties that are branching out to the other consoles. Capcom eliminates DMC, RE, and Okami. (I really need to get Okami, by the way. Also, Okami won't be seeing the PS3 as far as I can tell since Capcom is dissolving Clover Studios.) Konami eliminated MGS as an exclusive. Square-Enix has a probable exclusive for Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy XIII, but they have been going back to Nintendo for a lot of titles.

Basically, from what I can gather as of launch, the Wii has the better launch titles because of Zelda and Red Steel. PS2 had a pretty awful launch library as well. I think the only game worthwhile was SSX. But, the library has since expanded. Now that MS and slowly Nintendo are getting the third party, the future is more unclear.

I did have a PS2 and between my brother and I we bought a crap load of games...much more games than I'd be interested in buying for the Gamecube (honestly). Dont ask me how much because I really dont know, its a lot though.

I'm not saying you have to buy mediocre games... that was exactly my point.

Someone had said the PS sucked becasue while there are a lot of games, it is loaded with many mediocre games. My arguement was that while there are a lot of mediocre games for the PS, there are also more great games as well (numbers game)...you dont have to buy mediocre games.. just the good ones.

Oh, ok. I totally agree. :)

See, the problem I have with the PS3 is that Sony is slowly losing its stranglehold on the third party.

I agree with you, except the only other good Final Fantasy games are coming out for the DS. Crystal Chronicles was god-awful in my book (I hate Final Fantasy tactics)...and it's not a "true" final fantasy title. The snippet of video I saw of the Resident Evil title for Wii looked like a remake of the REMAKE of resident evil! It showed the first hallway where the dogs leap out at you. Hopefully this is not the case. I wish Nintendo did a better job with Gamecube so I could keep the REAL resident evil titles coming, like the RE-make, RE 0, and RE 4.

I'm still getting a Wii anyway....as if I haven't said it about 3,000,000,000 times by now haha :boink:

So there is really a chance that all those titles could be multiplatform!? If so..then waiting for a bit is even a better idea than I thought. Like I said whoever gets the games wins my business, if most of those titles end up on the Wii, then I'll be buying one without a doubt. If they end up being 360 titles...Awesome, one less system I gotta buy.

You are correct about launch titles though, the Wii does have much better games, maybe the best set of launch games ever. Nothing comes to mind in terms of PS3 launch titles that seem interesting, 360 was pretty weak too,

what do you guys think bout the MLG that's getting aired now? I bet no one 10 years ago could imagine gaming as a sport with it's own tv broadcasting.

-Steakboy

Soo....when does Halo 3 come out again!? Thanks for that picture Steakboy.

Steakboy, i sent you my email as well.

Amazing pic, huh?

Fall 07. basically a year from now. you can actually pre-order it now from eb games. In 3 trims. reg, collectors, and legendary.

-Steakboy

I friend of mine already put in his reserve for the legendary issue. He really wanted that helmet. HA!

Thanks for the pic.. the detail on master cheifs suit looks SICK!!

-hS

Hmmm headed out in 1 hour to go camp in front of circuit city =)....will hopefully pick up a PS3 tonight....then pick up my preordered PS3 tommorrow at EB Games....and then spend the rest of the day scanning the city for another PS3 =) ......

Hmmm headed out in 1 hour to go camp in front of circuit city =)....will hopefully pick up a PS3 tonight....

how are you doing that when it comes out Friday? (or tomorrow night in some places)

Yeah, that pic is awesome! Amazing stuff.... So what is the difference between the 3 trims!? what's included!? Do you seriously get a Master Chief helmet!?......because I would wear that thing everywhere!! Lawlz ;P

And you would get your ass kicked everywhere, lol.

the collectors comes with a making of dvd. the legendary comes with a replica of MC's helmet (not big enough to wear) and 4 discs. here's a better breakdown:

http://www.ebgames.com/gs/halo3/

click the images on the right to see the breakdowns

-Steakboy

Dammit, I had this whole, big response all typed up and the computer ate it. Oh well...

Basically, migration over to the other consoles is likely dependent upon the success of each console. The games make the console, but at launch, the initial release sells it. The console that gets the most customers gets the initial advantage. Developers will logically code for the larger market. Simple business sense. If the PS3 sells more, I'd make games for the PS3. If the Wii sells more, I'd make games for the Wii. It's about exposure and profit potential from the larger market. With the huge price difference, I don't see why those titles we thought were Sony only titles wouldn't migrate to 360 or Wii.

And you would get your ass kicked everywhere, lol.

Unless he was at DragonCon and then lots of fan girls would give him head....

Dammit, I had this whole, big response all typed up and the computer ate it. Oh well...

Basically, migration over to the other consoles is likely dependent upon the success of each console. The games make the console, but at launch, the initial release sells it. The console that gets the most customers gets the initial advantage. Developers will logically code for the larger market. Simple business sense. If the PS3 sells more, I'd make games for the PS3. If the Wii sells more, I'd make games for the Wii. It's about exposure and profit potential from the larger market. With the huge price difference, I don't see why those titles we thought were Sony only titles wouldn't migrate to 360 or Wii.


This is one of the reasons why I never buy on launch... never never never... not only do I simply not have the time to wait in line for a consol, nor do I want to be an "initial launch guinea pig"....its just too hard to tell without a shadow of a doubt where the chips are going to fall especially when you have three major players releasing at different times.

reason why I back up PS is because of historical data that will likely repeat itself... but things do change and thats why I'm hanging back... even if I had the money right now I'd still hang back

mugatu you know what I mean....midnight is when they sell it at the stores around here...so call it tommorrow even though I guess its the day after tommorrow =P ...headed out right now =) .........

so for corrections headed out tonight for tomorrow nights midnight release =), will hopefully get two more and have my preordered one come in the day after tommorrow morning ><

well the only reason why i may stand on line for a chance to get one is so i can sell the thing on Ebay for a nice chunk of change. i see no reason at this point to own one with the launch titles and the rumblings that it is even freezing on playing some PS2 titles. I'd rather make $1000 on selling it and wait awhile.

im so bored.
if i had halo2 at work... life would be perfect.

-hS

This is one of the reasons why I never buy on launch... never never never... not only do I simply not have the time to wait in line for a consol, nor do I want to be an "initial launch guinea pig"....its just too hard to tell without a shadow of a doubt where the chips are going to fall especially when you have three major players releasing at different times.

werd up

anyone with the attention span of a 6 year old should be able to wait several extra months to get a new console. minimize your risk

THat reminds me, who seen the South Park epi about the Wii. that was funny

science damn you!

Im picking up a pre-order PS3 on friday and selling it on EBAY for $1300+.

Then Ill buy another in six months and have money for new rims now. Booyah. :rock:

THat reminds me, who seen the South Park epi about the Wii. that was funny

It was pretty good - I keep wanting to freeze myself.

This is one of the reasons why I never buy on launch... never never never... not only do I simply not have the time to wait in line for a consol, nor do I want to be an "initial launch guinea pig"....its just too hard to tell without a shadow of a doubt where the chips are going to fall especially when you have three major players releasing at different times.

reason why I back up PS is because of historical data that will likely repeat itself... but things do change and thats why I'm hanging back... even if I had the money right now I'd still hang back
If historical data likely repeats itself, we'd all be rich from the stock market.

If historical data likely repeats itself, we'd all be rich from the stock market.

its called trend analysis... a viable market evaluation approach that actually works works for many

If historical data likely repeats itself, we'd all be rich from the stock market.
the markets actually are quite cyclical and do follow trends

So, why aren't we all obscenely rich from investing based on simple cyclical trends?

Edit:

So, I was reading pathtoinvesting.org and I stand corrected, the market does follow cyclical trends. However, it is still not a surefire method to gauge the future success of a company. It has to be viewed with the market as a whole in mind. So, basing Sony's future success simply from its specific past success in PS2 is pure speculation. Don't forget Beta-max and Mini-disc.

Cause I don't invest.

-Steakboy

So, why aren't we all obscenely rich from investing based on simple cyclical trends?.

Because most of us either never learn or are simply too lazy


Edit:

So, I was reading pathtoinvesting.org and I stand corrected, the market does follow cyclical trends. However, it is still not a surefire method to gauge the future success of a company. It has to be viewed with the market as a whole in mind. So, basing Sony's future success simply from its specific past success in PS2 is pure speculation. Don't forget Beta-max and Mini-disc.

Of course its speculation... but its a somewhat calculated one as opposed to a wild guess.

We dont have the ability to see the future, so all we have left is to speculate... ...people do it all the time. this is no differnt

If people didnt speculate we wouldnt be wear we are right now

THat reminds me, who seen the South Park epi about the Wii. that was funnyI haven't, but i hope i can find it on youtube.

So, why aren't we all obscenely rich from investing based on simple cyclical trends?

Edit:

So, I was reading pathtoinvesting.org and I stand corrected, the market does follow cyclical trends. However, it is still not a surefire method to gauge the future success of a company. It has to be viewed with the market as a whole in mind. So, basing Sony's future success simply from its specific past success in PS2 is pure speculation. Don't forget Beta-max and Mini-disc.I bought a minidisc player many ages ago... and i still use it. Its really good for specific purposes.

i cant wait till kill zone 2 comes out for the ps3.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/alfy27/killzone2.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/alfy27/killzone23.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/alfy27/killzone24.jpg

^^if that game looks even 70% close to that...my head will just explode. Kablam!

After getting my hands on Gears of War, I don't doubt that the final product could come very close to looking that good.

Dammit Sony, why did you have to go and piss me off so I have to try and avoid your products!?

You think thats impressive. Check out Amry of Two.
(BTW, i think the gameplay on killzone will probably be funner, but its too early to say)

http://images.ea.com/eagames/official/armyoftwo/screenshots/092806/11_full.jpg

http://images.ea.com/eagames/official/armyoftwo/screenshots/092806/5_full.jpg

-hS

holy shit.
until seeing these pictures i didnt truly understand what was happening here. i am amazed.

Are those in-game, or cutscene stuff?

-Steakboy

i hate when they show cutscence stuff only, and make it look like the gameplay. i have bought many games like that..ugh

now i read all the reviews on the net before buying anything. typically you can find gameplay videos by a 3rd part reviewer...i dont always listen to what they say, but most of the time i find it to be a pretty safe method

as far as the ps3. i am buying one sometime next year, maybe april or may, when all the hubub dies down.

i wouldnt wait in line for 24+ hours in the rain, only to possibly get one, but then again, 5 years ago, i probably would have

kill zone , from the demo i have seen. i want to say its in game scenes. reason i say that is , they had where the player view went up and down , to show it was not a cut scene. but i cant for sure, can be a gimick.

i want to say thanks sega for remaking Golden Axe.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2006/20061117.jpg

ah penny arcade, how I love you.

haha! i love it! take that ps3 fanbois!

-Steakboy

oh snap! several over $3000 already! some folks is getting paid!!!

People are idiots. I mean damn, I think 600 is stupid.

what about the people who sell just the box for alot? lol, people who fall for that are retarded.

-Steakboy

People are idiots. I mean damn, I think 600 is stupid. +1

Are those in-game, or cutscene stuff?

-SteakboyI think those pics i posted of Army of Two are in-game. Check out the HD Trailer on GameTrailers.com - and you'll see what i mean. Their cut-scenes are just too much. Watching it made me want to shoot myself in the head.. it was that good. The in game while not as great, was still really impressive.

-hS

I went in to Best Buy to try to get it. They were doing a raffle system. I wouldn't have it that way. So, I left. Gyroscopic control on the controller is horrible. Basketball game is like every other basketball game, pretty much. I'm still looking for one to re-sell on E-bay. If you guys want one, I suggest checking out Macy's and Sears. They tend to get a few units and no one ever thinks about going there to get one. You might luck out.

Still waiting for my Wii. Perhaps I should get 2 Wiis. XD

would that be wii wii then? (could help myself)

-Steakboy

speaking of wii i tried watching that episode of south park on youtube, but passed out in the middle of it. it was really good but i was REALLY tired. Oh well... i'll try again tonight, or right now... hehe.. my boss is gonna hate me.

-hS

Link from PA rant:

http://blog.wired.com/games/2006/11/scea_vp_on_back.html

I'm 90% sure those two shots of Army of Two are in-game stuff...at least that's believable, I just can't bring myself to believe those Killzone shots are real though... :/ I want to believe so bad......

If killzone was the game i played at the sony expo here... those aren't in-game shots. Then again that might have been resistance or something else. I dont know.

Whatever it was.. it sucked because it wasn't using the full potential of the PS3. It just looked like a PS2 game in HD. Which is essentially what it was.

-hS

the reviews coming out saying on paper ps3 looks better but in the real world - they have shown the ps3 is not really to much more than the 360 graphics wise.

the wii is just gonna be super fun - if u r judging on sys specs u have the wrong idea

there are gonna be great games for both systems

ut 2007 will be on both systems but most likely u will want this game on pc - but we'll c

gears of war is ok - it is not the baddest game ever but it is alot of fun - multi is lacking with promise of updates and support - co-op is really fun

ps3 games got horrible reviews at launch - but most systems do

ps3 is just not worth it at this point - the 360 has good stuff now - alot of it - the wii has the stronger launch and is a very different experience

ps3 has issues already - it downscales 1080i all the way down to 480p - they will possibly give a firmware update but this sucks for some

if u r not HD yet - u need to be considering getting a new tv before your purchase of the ps3 and 360 - this should not be an issue - HD sets are the shit - once u go u will never go back - for a gamer this is almost a must - if u r questioning the need to get an hd set then go with the wii - cause 360 and ps3 are hd games systems - and that is what we want - consoles need to catch pc - this is the first time ever to be so close - and look at live - the largest online community ever for this type of thing......:D:D

so what are the big FPS for teh xbox 360, i love Counter strike/source so i imagine that halo 3 will be great for the xbox. i will be picking up one soon and wanted to get some opinions?

So did anyone get a Wii? I was told stock would be no problem at a few places.... well, they were wrong.

I got a chance to play the PS3 last night...

and boy was i dissapointed. i dont think its the ps3s fault, but that resistance game sucked donkey balls. You could tell it was rushed, and just made very poorly. I dont know how it got good reviews. Another reminder to never listen to online game nerd reviews.

On the two player co-op mode it froze for about 2 seconds... every 8 seconds. That got really lame really fast. On all the modes the controller was TOO sensitive. We turned the sensitivity down to 0 and it still didnt help. Being a giant halo nerd... i'm usually really good at FPSs, but on Resistance i couldnt shoot anyone for the life of me. The controlls were just too twitchy.

We put in GT4 from PS2, and i was having similar problems. The controls were just too sensitive. It wasnt nearly as bad as with Resistance, but still annoying.

Does anoyone here who has a PS3 know of a way to adjust/calibrate the wireless controllers?

Also, not having force feedback on the controller sucks. I am pissed PS3 tried to follow Wii with the ultra homoerotic motion sensor controller, and in turn got rid of the rumble pack

also we played Tony Hawk 8 for PS3... and it was nothing special. You can tell the graphics were not made to the level of the PS3. Also another rushed title.

From talking to some people in the game development industry, they didnt get their PS3 developer boxes until a few months back. So i guess it makes sense these games werent ready. Meh, i'll still probably buy a PS3, but not anytime soon. They better fix the controller, maybe add forcefeedback back, and then i'll think about it. If its not up to par by the time Halo 3 comes out... im going 360.

-hS

That's what I've been saying. Are there any good titles yet?

^Why I have never bought launch systems or games. They always tend to suck outa the box. Great to hear about a "Real" experince with the game/system instead of a internet most likely biased review. Negitive as most of the things I've heard may be I'm still a Sony loyalist so I'll wait till the 2nd builds come out. Even then I'll wait a few to make sure all the bugs are out like the backward compatibility. Hopefully by then the price might be down a bit ><!

I want to get a ps3 but am having doubts after my ps2 crapped out on me about a year or so ago. Never read a single disc. Followed Sony's repair instructions and it broke for good. My n64 that I have had since the thing came out like 10 years ago still runs perfectly. Occasionaly slam in Smash Bros. for a good ole' time. :)

IM GOING WII.

That's what I've been saying. Are there any good titles yet?no there are not, but thats not a suprise. I dont see why you keep posting the same comment.

Because I don't get it. Why is there such a demand for nothing available? If there was something, anything I'd be able to rationalize it. Maybe I'm just out of touch.

its the demand of "having to be the first one to have it"

were you really not able to figure that one out for yourself? I also dont have the need to be the first one to have something, especially if its incomplete... but i can understand that others do.

-hS

btw, check ebay. they are not going for that much anymore. it was just a big first day rush.

the demand for those who have to have it, has been exhausted by the supply of those who are trying to make a quick buck. hence the price for one isnt $2000 anymore.

-hS

Because I don't get it. Why is there such a demand for nothing available? If there was something, anything I'd be able to rationalize it. Maybe I'm just out of touch.
Easy Luft..
"OMFGWTFBBQSAUSE!11!!!!1!1!!! I am da first to own diz bitzhes.. hahahaha.. I pwn all of joo!!"

There are always people who want to be the first to own it. And for the parents those are the ones that just have to have it for their child so they can either boost their childs ego or to shut them up. And on top of that Stores even though they have dealt with these things many times in the past still dont plan properly and it just leads to chaos.

I'd say the quality of games so far for PS3 and Wii is pretty even so far...I'm judging this by IGN's reviews (which I've found fairly accurate), and without a full review of Red Steel, but it looks as though the "best" games for each system are getting reviews of 8.5/10 or so...with the exception of Resistance on PS3 (9.1/10) and Zelda on Wii (9.5/10).

Looks like the developers need more time with each system, as always happens with consoles at launch.

clavius just touched on it, and its pretty lame. parents who buy it to make their kids happy. what a great parenting technique because you know it won't stop right there. Or actually just continue to snowball.

I wanted a genesis when it first came out, but i didnt get one. Eventhough my parents could easily afford one, I didnt get one until a few years later until I "earned it" in their eyes.

If my kids pester me so they can be the first one to get a ps5.. they should just bring the belt with them because they're gonna get it bad. I also like hearing about the parents who buy it so their kid will be popular. Sheeesh... its like your just raising someone to be a dork.

-hS

I'd say the quality of games so far for PS3 and Wii is pretty even so far...I'm judging this by IGN's reviews (which I've found fairly accurate), and without a full review of Red Steel, but it looks as though the "best" games for each system are getting reviews of 8.5/10 or so...with the exception of Resistance on PS3 (9.1/10) and Zelda on Wii (9.5/10).

Looks like the developers need more time with each system, as always happens with consoles at launch.resistnace should of got a 0 out of 10. total garbage.

Applejacks. I just don't get it. First to have mentality is lost on me. I'm like a fish trying to figure out the point of a bicycle.

I did just hear that R6:Vegas is pretty good, well the 360 version is at least. I haven't even cracked open my Wii yet. It's just sitting on the floor. I'm too tired to play. I wish I had a couch to sit on.

Well, I've been seeing Wii comercials for the past couple of days and they lead me to ask 1 question. is there any game that I can sit on my lazy ass and play without jumping around and flicking my arms every which way? I mean, c'mon! I wanna sit on my butt after a long day at work and school and play a game without much physical movement. I dont wanna be rolling on the floor and flaying my arms about like a crazy person on speed. Is this really too much to ask?

This ladies and gentlemen, is why I will ALWAYS stick with my 360.

-Steakboy

i agree

Now now Steakboy.. we must not fit ourselves into the sterotype of lazy gamers... haha..
Though I do see your point. If all the games are like that then that is going to be a MAJOR downside to the system. I'm still unsure about the control(s) with the Wii. For those who have used/bought the system does it feel natural or what?

a real good example of this is a commercial of a guy playing call of duty 3. on screen, they show an enemy soldier running up to melee. the player to melee himself, has to whip the controller in a specific manner to do such a move. lame. I hope for Nintendo's sake that you can shut that off.

-Steakboy

You can adjust the sensitivity. If you want, only small movements are necessary.

I noticed that commerical to I did see two arrows on the side so you can hopefully just press the left/right buttons to get the same effect.

I think Nintendo is just trying to get the fun back in to gaming. I aplaud them for it since the "fun" in games has been replaced by "Graphic's and Special effects!". I'd rather a game I can sit down and enjoy and play many times over than a game I pop in play once through and just say " well the shiny graphics were nice..". Why I didnt like GT4 that much sure the graphic's were nice but without the Hp limitations I felt like I could just sup' my car up and WHAM win right away unless I really messed up.

i think gt4 along with a lot of the newer games are only best when you can play against people at your level or slightly better. That competition is pretty addicting.

mmmmm - online play

-hS

the nintendo wii will make a lot of fat gamers loose weight though :Peace:

with my luck, I'd prolly get a little annoyed with a hard part, shake the controller and accidently toss a grenade at my feet, blowing myself up.

-Steakboy

You guys need to give it a chance I think. I applaud Nintendo for trying something different.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/driving/f1/index.html?q=f1%20ps3

Formula One looks so sweet.

You guys need to give it a chance I think. I applaud Nintendo for trying something different.


yeah I'll play with it should one of my friends pick it up

^Why I have never bought launch systems or games. They always tend to suck outa the box. Great to hear about a "Real" experince with the game/system instead of a internet most likely biased review. Negitive as most of the things I've heard may be I'm still a Sony loyalist so I'll wait till the 2nd builds come out. Even then I'll wait a few to make sure all the bugs are out like the backward compatibility. Hopefully by then the price might be down a bit ><!

Thats always been my tactic

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/driving/f1/index.html?q=f1%20ps3

Formula One looks so sweet.

meh, ill stick with forza 2 when it comes out!

-Steakboy

here is the video you can watch of Kill Zone 2. now as for a cut scene vid im not sure on that one. to me it does not look like one. call of duty opens up pretty much the same way .meaning you drive on the back of the truck to your desti point. ppl are getting shot at etc http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/index.html?q=killzone%202

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/media.html?sid=6124970&mode=gameplay&autoplay=6124970

Impressive if that is in-game I'm still not positive if it is. To me it looks like it isn't simply because it cuts so quickly from behind-the-gun action to scenima-esque action. might be too early to tell.

-Steakboy

haha! I just found this.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2006/20061120.jpg

-Steakboy

I want to believe it's in-game with all my heart...I really do.... but, when that trailer first surfaced no one else believed it was in-game either, no one could really say it wasn't, but everyone was sceptical. The Sony fanbois (I'm one :/) dissected the trailer and found there was some evidence of poly-clipping, ect, and ect, to prove it was real. I'm pretty sure they proved that it wasn't in game, this is from memory. Later it turned out that the trailer was CGI "touched up", that it was a "target render" to show us what it will "probably" look like. So, until I see some schmuck playing it in front of me...I don't think I'm gonna hold my breath....

:edit: Ohh..no actually it's even better than the trailer.... :rolleyes:
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/14/actual-killzone-2-better-than-trailer/

oh i have to check that out when i get home. nerf work. btw how is the hd drive for xbox. my friend from work is trying to tell me it cost 99$, but i can only see price of 199.00. so for the 20gig xbox (399) and hd drive (199) that cost as much as a ps3.

^^Are you talking about the 20GB HD!? just by itself!? because your friend is right.. $99.00
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-20GB-Hard-Drive/dp/B000B6ML32

damn i owe him 20 dollars, thanks r-ninja my day is screwed :( lol jking

oh wait i meant hd dvd drive http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-HD-DVD-Player/dp/B000JHO4L0/sr=8-1/qid=1164061347/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-1133070-0311167?ie=UTF8&s=videogames

my bad , i can see where you would think i was talking about hard drive. my bad so yah i won 20dollars

Well, I've been seeing Wii comercials for the past couple of days and they lead me to ask 1 question. is there any game that I can sit on my lazy ass and play without jumping around and flicking my arms every which way? I mean, c'mon! I wanna sit on my butt after a long day at work and school and play a game without much physical movement. I dont wanna be rolling on the floor and flaying my arms about like a crazy person on speed. Is this really too much to ask?

This ladies and gentlemen, is why I will ALWAYS stick with my 360.

-Steakboy

well, i can speak for Zelda in that I comfortably play from a lounged position on my couch, and still get great use out of the wiimote when called for. I would say sports games are where you need the most movement...though it's already known that you don't need to do those arm movements, as you can do the same move with the right flick of your wrist and achieve the same result.

^^Haha! Woot for easy money! Yeah, that's the best price I can find for HD DVD HD thingie..

haha! I just found this.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2006/20061120.jpg

-SteakboyGreatness!! I got sick of playing noobs on halo. it gets really boring, but when you do play against people who know what theyre doing... its pretty bad a*ss.

-hS

YOu only need the HD-DVD drive if you want to play HD-DVD movies. All games will play on the current drive. The HD-DVD drive was just released, it wasn't an option on release day of the 360. plus, the drive just plugs in via the usb port.

-Steakboy

haha just seen a commerical for RedSteel for the Wii.. haha.. funny commerical though the guy looked retarded swinging the controler around like a sword. The ending was classic hearing the sensi say "you suck!"

I got a chance to play the PS3 last night...

and boy was i dissapointed. i dont think its the ps3s fault, but that resistance game sucked donkey balls. You could tell it was rushed, and just made very poorly. I dont know how it got good reviews. Another reminder to never listen to online game nerd reviews.

On the two player co-op mode it froze for about 2 seconds... every 8 seconds. That got really lame really fast. On all the modes the controller was TOO sensitive. We turned the sensitivity down to 0 and it still didnt help. Being a giant halo nerd... i'm usually really good at FPSs, but on Resistance i couldnt shoot anyone for the life of me. The controlls were just too twitchy.

We put in GT4 from PS2, and i was having similar problems. The controls were just too sensitive. It wasnt nearly as bad as with Resistance, but still annoying.

Does anoyone here who has a PS3 know of a way to adjust/calibrate the wireless controllers?

Also, not having force feedback on the controller sucks. I am pissed PS3 tried to follow Wii with the ultra homoerotic motion sensor controller, and in turn got rid of the rumble pack

also we played Tony Hawk 8 for PS3... and it was nothing special. You can tell the graphics were not made to the level of the PS3. Also another rushed title.

From talking to some people in the game development industry, they didnt get their PS3 developer boxes until a few months back. So i guess it makes sense these games werent ready. Meh, i'll still probably buy a PS3, but not anytime soon. They better fix the controller, maybe add forcefeedback back, and then i'll think about it. If its not up to par by the time Halo 3 comes out... im going 360.

-hSI need to make a correction to what i wrote earlier.

I got a chance to play the PS3 again and the controllers were working fine this time. Turns out the first time my friend didnt charge them up all the way (he actually only let it charge a few minutes), and that is why they were running really odd.

Played Resistance again and it was a lot better this time. Also the graphics are pretty amazing with the HDMI connection.

Oh also, resistance is a really long game. A lot longer than i expected. I guess this is better than playing 360 games and running out of story/game 2 days into it.

ok, that is all.

-hS

big o, did you end up liking the game? i play alot of FPS games on the pc like HL2, FEAR , CS and UT. right now im playing Genji and Untold legends on my ps3. but i never played a fps on a console so i wasnt sure if wanted Fall of Man. But if you was to rate it, what would you give it, 1 out of 10. thanks big o. Gametrailers gave it a 9.0 and gamespot gave it a 9 something. but i guess i just want to hear from ppl on this forum who played it. and since you play fps on consoles wonder how you liked it.

PuNJaBiHiTMaNN <--- my Xbox live gamer tag

if anyone is on Xbox Live 360 playing Gears of War send me an invite we will own some 13 year olds :)

big o, did you end up liking the game? i play alot of FPS games on the pc like HL2, FEAR , CS and UT. right now im playing Genji and Untold legends on my ps3. but i never played a fps on a console so i wasnt sure if wanted Fall of Man. But if you was to rate it, what would you give it, 1 out of 10. thanks big o. Gametrailers gave it a 9.0 and gamespot gave it a 9 something. but i guess i just want to hear from ppl on this forum who played it. and since you play fps on consoles wonder how you liked it.If your used to games at the level of CS and Halo2... Resistance will disapoint. Its not a great FPS but its pretty decent and if you have a PS3 i guess its worth buying.

If you dont have a PS3 yet, this is not the game to rush to the buy the system for.

Now that i have gotten it to work, and really played it... i give it a 5/10 on the BigOLundh scale of gaming excellence. (this can also be simplified as a 1/2 rating - LOL)

-hS

Ryu vs Scorpion.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1319348399

This is great!!

thanks big, yah i have ps3 but i just cant find my self playing a fps on a console. right now just playing ridge racer 7. oh btw have you guys seen the teaser vid for area 51 . here is some scans.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/alfy27/area51.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/alfy27/area512.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/alfy27/area513.jpg

Ryu vs Scorpion.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1319348399

This is great!!
Doesn't work for me. Is it this?

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=79564

thanks big, yah i have ps3 but i just cant find my self playing a fps on a console. right now just playing ridge racer 7. oh btw have you guys seen the teaser vid for area 51 . here is some scans. I'll wait to get home before i see the pics.

Oh wow, so your that guy.
Scenario:
Load in Halo to someone who's talkin smack
Destory person who was talkin smack
Listen to person whine that if it was "mouse/keyboard" he would own.

LOL!!!

So is hte console thing just because your used to mouse/keyboard? I was the same way for a while with the duke nukem and quake series... but when i got the original halo for xbox the transition was simple. Its an adjustment but if your open to it... its good.

plus the online play is really good with the PS3. Can you play RR online?

-hS

So is hte console thing just because your used to mouse/keyboard?

it just seems impossible to get the intuitiveness and precision of a mouse with a joystick. mouses are more nimble. imagine playing counterstrike with a joystick. youd get pwnd.

It is different. You cant just immedieatly look at where you want to shoot. You have to guide your gun and hope to get their quick. Then again you can turn up the sensitivity and get their real quick, but i find that annoying.

Good thing is... everyone your playing against is also using the same control as you. You might want to rent Resistance and see for yourself. I wonder with the PS3 if their is an expandable Mouse/Keyboard option. The xbox had something like that but it worked pretty bad, and the configuration was just completely off.

Personally.. i like playing FPS on consoles better than mouse/keyboard. *runs away*

lol yah i dl the demo. sorry didnt mean to sound like mouse pwns control stick lol. just been playing with a mouse and keyboard since the first UT (wow TNT2 days lol)

It's sad that I know what you mean when you say TNT2......

It's sad that I know what you mean when you say TNT2......

lol yah . i was so jealous because my friend got the first geforce type card. i was like wow that thing moves.

sorry didnt mean to sound like mouse pwns control stick lol.

well you should have...its true

well you should have...its truehaha
In a scenario where two players, who are equally skilled... the one with the mouse/keyboard will of course have the advantage.

but if its a game where everyone is forced to use the same setup (xbox controller games or pc mouse/keyboard games) - i personally find the controller to be funner.

-hS

Mouse and keyboard for life.

Mouse and keyboard for life.so hows that wii working out for you? you get that mouse/keyboard connection working yet?

The menu keyboard on the Wii is pretty tactile with the rumble from the controller, but I don't know if the sensitivity of the pointer will be good for aiming. It still feels a little detached, but maybe I just need to give it time.

I've played too much CS in college to opt for anything other than a mouse and keyboard for first person shooters. Though, I still wait for the day when I can connect directly into the mind core.

halla to the aswd peeps!! lol. Yeah, mouse and keyboard is more accurate definately. it is quite hard for console play tho. that's why im leary about FEAR for the 360. I have it for PC. I'm sure it will be fun, but it will be so different not having a keyboard...
however, I'm downloading the demo to see how I like it.

-Steakboy

ok i just dled the demo of motor storm for the ps3, i jus want to say OMG that game is so much fun. i never been a fan of off road type racing games. but this game is so much fun. any one who has a ps3 , i would recommend dling this demo. if you havnet seen it, go to www.gametrailers.com and use the search for motor storm and check out the game play hd videos. http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=1678

and also steak i feel yah about fear. i really want to see the difference on the ps3 vs the pc but i hope they have a demo for the ps3 version. i just cant see my self buying another fear game. and cant see the ps3 version better then my gf7900gt card :rock . oh the expansion is alot of fun if you have not played it yet.

ok i just dled the demo of motor storm for the ps3, i jus want to say OMG that game is so much fun. i never been a fan of off road type racing games. but this game is so much fun. any one who has a ps3 , i would recommend dling this demo. if you havnet seen it, go to www.gametrailers.com and use the search for motor storm and check out the game play hd videos.

and also steak i feel yah about fear. i really want to see the difference on the ps3 vs the pc but i hope they have a demo for the ps3 version. i just cant see my self buying another fear game. and cant see the ps3 version better then my gf7900gt card :rock . oh the expansion is alot of fun if you have not played it yet.

I don't think it's a *new* FEAR. I think it's just ported. But I thought I saw in a tv commercial that the pistol looked different.

-Steakboy

oh sorry steak, i mean the expansion for the pc. its alot of fun. i cant remember the name though. if you havnet played it. man its scary, it puts the first fear to shame on the scare factor. but yah the ps3 like you said is a ported version. i hope they have a demo i can dl at the ps3 site. i just want to see if they kept the graphics the same. anyhow its friday :)

oh sorry steak, i mean the expansion for the pc. its alot of fun. i cant remember the name though. if you havnet played it. man its scary, it puts the first fear to shame on the scare factor. but yah the ps3 like you said is a ported version. i hope they have a demo i can dl at the ps3 site. i just want to see if they kept the graphics the same. anyhow its friday :)

Extraction point. Yeah I bought it. It's pretty sweet. Very scary. especially near the end when ur walking through the insane assylum...

-Steakboy

beat fear on pc - on xbox it is badass also -they added a new pistol type and possibly another gun - got gears right after i rented it so never really played past first or second interval - it was fun and it worked well on stick - extraction point was a fear expansion - does it continue right after u r in the helicoptor last scene from original.....

also - counterstrike does work on stick - counterstrike is fun but it is a jitter game - just turn corner and whoever can get the shot first wins - kinda boring for me - but I see the appeal - shadowrun for 360 will pit pc vs console for first time with live anywhere - it will also give u the option to play 3rd or 1st - so the debates will soon be over provided the game is worth a shit - cannot wait.....

another plus that people are not giving the 360 credit for is vista - this os is coming out with the 360 in mind - anyone who has media center and used it can attest that there are some kewl features having your windows pc synch up.

o - counterstrike guy - half life 2 is being released for 360 updated to look like pc version - comes with half life 2 - episode one [the expansion] - portals - and team fortress 2 I think....

Mouse and keyboard for life.

qft...I'm on more 6th year of CS, can't stop =/

I'm only average at Halo and such, but I tell the guys if you make it UT2k4, CSS, Quake, BF2, anything with a mouse/keyboard, I'll rip you a new one!

Awesome info ruru. good to hear that fear played well on the stick. The expansion pack does start right as you are on the heli. well, right after the heli crashes...

-Steakboy

Wii controller seems like the "next best thing" to mouse and ASDW, since you can point it at the screen. any feedback on Wii with FPS? COD3? sorry if i missed it somewhere in this thread...

rigth now i jsut can not wait til ut 2.7 come out. and also team fortress 2 ( wow finally after what 7yrs? lol) but yah the new engine looks sweet.

Wii controller seems like the "next best thing" to mouse and ASDW, since you can point it at the screen. any feedback on Wii with FPS? COD3? sorry if i missed it somewhere in this thread...
I heard they did some parts right and some parts wrong. I want to try it, but don't know if I'd buy it. I think it's kinda cool how you can shoot with remote like a rifle and swing the controller in order to execute a melee attack.

I heard they did some parts right and some parts wrong. I want to try it, but don't know if I'd buy it. I think it's kinda cool how you can shoot with remote like a rifle and swing the controller in order to execute a melee attack. This is heavily dependant on how the developer chooses to filter your input.

Games will probably vary widely on FPS input feel until someone "gets it right". Then it will be copied.

My money's on Prime: Corruption being the de-facto standard.

I think it'd be pretty cool if Samus got like a spike ball attachment to her gun arm like Barret in FFVII. I'd club all the baby seals with that.

speaking of FPS, i have been a avid player for PC games but will i have a hard time playing a FPS on say a 360 with the controller and all compared to the keyboard?

ok i just dled the demo of motor storm for the ps3, i jus want to say OMG that game is so much fun. i never been a fan of off road type racing games. but this game is so much fun. any one who has a ps3 , i would recommend dling this demo. if you havnet seen it, go to www.gametrailers.com and use the search for motor storm and check out the game play hd videos. http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=1678
I played the DL demo of MotorStorm at my friends house, and it didnt have the settings option enabled. The demo at the Sony expo had that, and we could set it to motion sensor controller... that was good!!!!

If you get the game, im sure you'll be able to enable the motion sensor steering.

-hS

Have you guys seen the new Halo 3 screens!? Mmm..

are they on the bungie site?

speaking of FPS, i have been a avid player for PC games but will i have a hard time playing a FPS on say a 360 with the controller and all compared to the keyboard? yes. the thumbstick sucks in comparison to the mouse.

are they on the bungie site?
I would guess that they are..but I'm not sure. I saw them posted somewhere else...Gamespot.com I think...

I just saw the Halo3 Teaser Trailer... and i have nothing else to say.

*silence*

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-hS

I just saw the Halo3 Teaser Trailer... and i have nothing else to say.

*silence*

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http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_halo3_2_h264.mov

-hS

I have that trailer on my 360. It gives me chills every time I see it.

-Steakboy

edit: wait, the commercial played last night or the annoucement trailer? I just dl'ed the commercial to my pc and it is amazing. I hope that shield ball thing is included in the game.