http://www.businessweek.com/autos/content/oct2006/bw20061031_135488.htm

EDIT: The person who wrote this article turned out to be male, but I am keeping my original comments here in an effort to flaunt my sexism.

She ranked the car 3 out of 5 and basically takes a bunch of swings at its unusual maintenance needs and poor gas mileage. (Typical complaints I'd expect from a female.) On the other hand, this is also the first review I've ever seen that actually comments about the car's poor sales. She also didn't particularly like the car's exterior too much and wasn't a fan of the cockpit like interior. Yup, definitely reminds me of an ex-girlfriend of mine.

What time of the month did this jugdement come on?

what a stupid bitch of a reviewer. someone start signing up her email onto porn spam sites or something... LOL

^^ :uhh: That's really not necessary. If her opinion hurt your heart, you can post a reply to her article on the last page. (Calm down underlings, I think everything is going to be ok.)

LOL... i know, i was only kidding. :)

Here's what I posted, though it's not showing up on the site for some reason.

4 Stars

As the owner of both a BMW 3-series and a Mazda RX-8, I feel that this reviewer has made some seriously biased comments that unfairly represent the qualities of RX-8 and its target audience.

First, it's ignorant to lump sports car enthusiasts in the same category as "most drivers" and review the RX-8 out of context of its target demographic, which is specifically- the sports car enthusiast. The last time I checked, great handling, responsive throttle, vigorous-sounding exhaust, sleek cockpit-like cabin, sleek exterior, and unique styling were the EXACT things sports car ethusiasts look for. Yet, these are the very qualities of the RX-8 that she continuously criticizes. Does she just not like sports cars altogether, or does she just not like the RX-8?

Second, she marginalizes the very features of the RX-8 that were specifically designed to make the car more practical than your typical, run-of-the-mill sports car, such as it's 4-passenger seating, fully-useable trunk, and 4-door coupe design. Many adults who want to buy a sports car sometimes wrestle with the idea, because they know traditional sports cars are impractical- due to their limited 2-seat spacing and lack of trunk space. Ironically, the RX-8 specifically answers these concerns and even provides them w/ lower insurance costs. So how does this make the RX-8 impractical and unappealing?

Thirdly, the rotary engine has been around for a long time. And, the author's "sky is falling" portrayal of it is merely a reflection of her own ignorance of this technology. Rotary engines have been continuously developed and running in production Mazda vehicles for many, many generations. In fact, even today- here in Southern California- it's an everyday thing to see many 1st generation RX-7s on the roads- all running on rotary engines. So, to paint the rotary engine as this "purely experimental, risky beast" is hardly fair. In fact, the rotary engine is one of the very things that puts the RX-8 into a class of its own and shines.

There are too many weak arguments in her article to pick apart. But, the bottom line is clear.

If you (a) are not a true sports car fan, (b) are a woman, and (c) are completely ignorant about rotary vehicles, then yes maybe the RX-8 is not the car for you.

If, however, (1) you truly love sports cars, (2) are willing to educate yourself a bit on the history and background of the rotary engine, (3) are not afraid of technology, then definitely do your homework first and then go test drive the RX-8. You will not only be overwhelmingly surprised at what a remarkably enjoyable and wonderful vehicle it is, but you'll be wondering why you didn't buy one sooner.

Detrich

She ranked the car 3 out of 5 and basically takes a bunch of swings at its unusual maintenance needs and poor gas mileage. (Typical complaints I'd expect from a female.) On the other hand, this is also the first review I've ever seen that actually comments about the car's poor sales. She also didn't particularly like the car's exterior too much and wasn't a fan of the cockpit like interior. Yup, definitely reminds me of an ex-girlfriend of mine.It's a He though. But I guess you can call him a she if he's being a bitch.

Saw this article post in another forum. The writer knows nothing about the 8 nor cars in general. An idiot.

maybe she can decide if your post should be on or not. lol

It's a guy...unless Jerky purposefully categorized him as a girly mahn.

It's a He though. But I guess you can call him a she if he's being a bitch.

I could have sworn I read something there where the reviewer was making an insult about low percentage of female owners compared to the Eclipse, and with the complaint about the rear doors and the cockpit interior, I was almost positive it was a female. :scratchhe Oh well. Sure as hell sounded like one. This just makes me angrier now.


EDIT: This was this line that made me believe the gender was female: "The guys at Car and Driver love the RX-8 because most of them are, well, guys, and this is pretty much a guy's car."

yah, i read the article too, and i thought "he" sounded like a "she." just the way in which he described certain things- very feminine. maybe he plays for the other team...

Overall it seems like a pretty realistic review to me and is more informative about some things (buying one and demographics) than most car mags are.

wow this woman is obviously a douche bag...

-she says "The car is rated at 18 miles per gallon in the city and 25 on the highway with the small engine, 18 and 24 with the big engine."

I was unaware that we have differences in engine size :hahano:

so yeah i wouldn't view anything that she says as a basis for anyone thinking about buying this car to consider.

-also she says "The downside is that the engine has a high-pitched whine (a little like a motorcycle engine's) that can be annoying. Also, if you're looking for a cushy ride, this isn't the car for you. The RX-8 makes no apologies for being a sports car. You feel the bumps and rough patches on the highway, and every bump on back roads"

I dont think the engine sound is annoying nore do i think the ride is harsh, actually it is better than alot of cars I've been in

"The RX-8, which hit the U.S. market five years ago".....really...did you guys get it in 2001 did you?

"The bottom line is that this is an unconventional, almost eccentric car. It isn't for everyone. But if you're looking for a sweet-handling sports car with distinctive styling, it might be worth taking a chance on the RX-8. "

Yeah, just like an Evo, STI, GTO, GTI, Mazdaspeed 3 or 6.....

Well put 'Detrich'

For anyone to say they dislike the sound of the rotary engine...is a very unusual comment, for ALL the RX-8's faults this is one I have not heard of before....

Thane Peterson has worked as a BusinessWeek reporter and editor in Minneapolis, reporter and editor in Minneapolis, Toronto, Paris, New York, and Frankfurt. Among other world events, he covered the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 and Europe's transition to the euro in the late 1990s. As a New York-based editor in the mid-1990s, he helped launch BusinessWeek.com and was one of its first employees. These days he writes a weekly car review for BusinessWeek.com, as well as articles on art and other collectibles for BusinessWeek.

A total Fruit cake!!!

Thought as much...another "great all rounder" journalist that "makes' a story on ALL matters and expects their views to be believed....I for one would give the guys at Car and Driver, WHEELS, Motor-Trend, Road and Track far more credibility on the subject of reviewing and or road testing ANY make of car....

He should stick to "Business"....

...that and 11 year old boys... :rofl:

There are men that play for the other team (and drive 8s) that know more about cars than this neutered and castrated idiot could ever learn.

And dont forget plenty of perverted men look for young girls too.

If you (a) are not a true sports car fan, (b) are a woman, and (c) are completely ignorant about rotary vehicles, then yes maybe the RX-8 is not the car for you.

If, however, (1) you truly love sports cars, (2) are willing to educate yourself a bit on the history and background of the rotary engine, (3) are not afraid of technology, then definitely do your homework first and then go test drive the RX-8. You will not only be overwhelmingly surprised at what a remarkably enjoyable and wonderful vehicle it is, but you'll be wondering why you didn't buy one sooner.

Detrich

:nono:

Ahem. I'm not a fan of you're "are a woman" comment... I know quite a few females who appreciate the awesomeness that is an RX-8.

I DO agree with you though on the fact that whoever posted that review needs a bit more education on the car before bashing it but... *shrug*... each to their own.

everyone gets all pissed off when someone doesn't liek the rx8, its an article, who cares.

:nono:

Ahem. I'm not a fan of you're "are a woman" comment... I know quite a few females who appreciate the awesomeness that is an RX-8.

I DO agree with you though on the fact that whoever posted that review needs a bit more education on the car before bashing it but... *shrug*... each to their own.

Pics?

all the good bits have been said about this woman... she's either not a true sports car enthusiast, on the rag, or just plain stupid.

Not to bash any of the cool RX-chicks on the board here, but I do believe there is the "typical woman" that just wants to put gas in the car and never think about anything else. Soooo many girls I know when I ask them about their car say "i dont know i just put gas in it, nothing else"

This woman in the review needs to stick to Hyundia's, Kia's, and other cookie cutter plain cars. She bitches about the exotic looks, and poor fuel milage, two of the big defining characteristics of a sports car.

This is a woman who deserves no more thought on our part... she's just one of those women that will always see a car as "just a thing to get me to my next hair appointment"

It's a dude, jeff

all the good bits have been said about this woman... she's either not a true sports car enthusiast, on the rag, or just plain stupid.

Not to bash any of the cool RX-chicks on the board here, but I do believe there is the "typical woman" that just wants to put gas in the car and never think about anything else. Soooo many girls I know when I ask them about their car say "i dont know i just put gas in it, nothing else"

This woman in the review needs to stick to Hyundia's, Kia's, and other cookie cutter plain cars. She bitches about the exotic looks, and poor fuel milage, two of the big defining characteristics of a sports car.

This is a woman who deserves no more thought on our part... she's just one of those women that will always see a car as "just a thing to get me to my next hair appointment"

Spoken like a true RX8 believer. Don't let the facts get in your way.

Though the review doesn't get all the facts right, I think it does reveal how non-enthusiasts tend to perceive the car, which would be consistent with US sales figures.

It's not a wide-open RX-8 bash by any means, though...


The RX-8 is also a driving enthusiast's car. Steering is extremely responsive: The car's reaction to the slightest flick of the steering wheel is almost instantaneous. The RX-8 also feels very solid and hugs the road in any even remotely street-legal maneuver you can come up with. That's partly because the engine is positioned relatively far back and the gas tank relatively far forward, giving the RX-8 almost perfect 50/50 front/rear weight distribution. The RX-8 is also quite light for a four-seater, weighing in at barely 3,000 lbs.

The RX-8 is fairly quick, though my test car was no speed demon. The fastest time I got accelerating from 0 to 60 was 7.5 seconds. However, my test car only had about 9,000 miles on it, and apparently RX-8 gets faster as the engine wears in. Car and Driver got times as low as 5.9 seconds in an '04 RX-8 with upward of 40,000 miles on it.

He praised the car's handling, and actually made the point that C&D got a nice 0-60 time out of the car, even though he didn't...


The bottom line is that this is an unconventional, almost eccentric car. It isn't for everyone. But if you're looking for a sweet-handling sports car with distinctive styling, it might be worth taking a chance on the RX-8.

...and at the end, he actually recommended the car, if it's what you're looking for.

Many of the gripes were just related to his own preferences in styling and comfort, but at least he makes the point that it's a driver's car.

I thought it was actually rather fair, though misinformed on several points.

Pics?


Of women appreciating RX-8s? There's a whole thead devoted to it.
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=76777
Maybe they aren't actually appreciating the car but you can pretend, yanno? :)

I was jokingly asking for pics of you. Jokingly. :hahano:

I was jokingly asking for pics of you. Jokingly. :hahano:

I know. I was jokingly averting your question since I already have one as my avatar. :hahano:

:nono:

Ahem. I'm not a fan of you're "are a woman" comment... I know quite a few females who appreciate the awesomeness that is an RX-8.

I DO agree with you though on the fact that whoever posted that review needs a bit more education on the car before bashing it but... *shrug*... each to their own.


Nice rack.

Yeah. Mom did what she could, Roto.

Yeah. Mom did what she could, Roto.

She did good.
:yumyum:

^Hey. Mine.

I know. I was jokingly averting your question since I already have one as my avatar. :hahano:

umm...I knew that!

=/

Someone gave a bad review of the RX8? Oh noes!!!!!

Whoever thought "Thane" was a woman's name had better check out the Adam's apple on their next date or they could be in for a surprise.

Yeah, it was a lame review that seemed to draw most of its engine information from the 2004 manual. But what's with the "douchebag" and "time of the month" comments? Or has this board been purchased my Maxim Magazine?

Grow the fuck up raceboys or go back to your anime and bangbus.com.

That last comment was uncalled for, imo.

Man or woman, one who misrepresents and misinforms readers should not publish articles. This person talks about smalll and large engines in the 8. Properly interpreted she or it should say in fact the same engine with manual or automatic transmission has a different HP rating. Dechoking the engine, no such thing she or it should talk about a flooded engine start procedure. Why did they allow someone with no mechanical abilities to speak as an expert, I blame the publisher more than the writer

Whoever thought "Thane" was a woman's name had better check out the Adam's apple on their next date or they could be in for a surprise.

Yeah, it was a lame review that seemed to draw most of its engine information from the 2004 manual. But what's with the "douchebag" and "time of the month" comments? Or has this board been purchased my Maxim Magazine?

Grow the fuck up raceboys or go back to your anime and bangbus.com.
Woah there Miker. There's no need for a comment like that. Obviously if someone posts some article in any way bashing the RX8 on an RX8 forum, you are going to get responses like this. Don't let it bother you. After all, you don't have much room to talk... you are Canadian. :hahano:

Overall it seems like a pretty realistic review to me and is more informative about some things (buying one and demographics) than most car mags are.
The demographics are interesting and informative, but the review has some mistakes and the complaints are exaggerated:

The drawback is that the Renesis is relatively high maintenance. For instance, the car steadily burns a small amount of oil during regular use. Mazda recommends that you check the oil every other time you gas up.
This car doesn't need any more maintenance than my WRX did. I check the oil once ever couple months and dump in a quart once in-between normal oil changes. I spent a lot more time letting my WRX's turbo cool down than I have checking the RX8's oil.

if you drive a short distance—say, out of the garage out into the driveway—you're supposed to turn the ignition to start for 10 seconds with the pedal on the floor, then let the engine idle for 10 seconds.
Huh? Crank it with it floored for 10 seconds everytime I drive a short distance... I've never heard of this before.

Once you've moved the car, you're supposed let the engine idle for five minutes, rev it up to 3,000 rpm, then let it idle again before shutting it off.Again, huh? I thought you only need to rev it for 10 seconds if you haven't let it warm up and want to shut it off.

Mazda also warns that you may have to periodically "dechoke" the engine by cranking the engine for seven or eight seconds with the pedal on the floor. This cleans unburned fuel out of the engine's combustion chamber. (I'd be interested in hearing from owners if all this is really necessary. I didn't do any of it and didn't have problems, but I only drove the car about 450 miles.)Again, huh? I've never done this.

are you willing to risk upward of 30 grand on a car with a rotary engine?The review mentions that there are incentives, but then puts this misleading bit in when you can easily get a base 6-speed for $22-23k.

they're small, cramped ones that the narrow reverse-opening doors make it hard to get in and out of.It's definitely cozy back there, but the back seats are not at all cramped compared to any coupe I've sat it the back of (such as the new Si, which has little headroom). Even many traditional 4-doors have a lot less headroom in the back.

Uh what? What is this?!

Yeah. Mom did what she could, Roto.


You need to post a pic.

Having an avatar of your pretty self from the cleavage up is just plain cruel.

^^^as if she hasnt been bombarded by like 100000000 private messages a day by people on this forum asking for pics already :p especially the 16, 17 year olds :)

i think all the maintenance stuff that he cited in the review are mazda's official statements? iono...

^^^as if she hasnt been bombarded by like 100000000 private messages a day by people on this forum asking for pics already :p especially the 16, 17 year olds :)


I'm over 30 and I am just as horny now as I've ever been.

I'm over 30 and I am just as horny now as I've ever been.
somehow i dont think that helps you in convincing her to post more pics lol

I'm over 30 and I am just as horny now as I've ever been.I just lawled on a conference call with a client and my network staff. Thanks, lol.

A girl recently drove my car and liked it so much that she offered to trade me her BMW 325xi which ironically possesses all of the luxury touches, four doors, etc that this Businessweek reviewer so misses, I politely declined by the way.

You need to post a pic.

Having an avatar of your pretty self from the cleavage up is just plain cruel.

So my face isn't good enough?

*gets out the butter/paper bag*

:tear:

So I'm told "wait a minute, Miker" for suggesting the "douchebag" contributors go back to their anime or bangbus.com and the rest of the thread is about some stylegirl's tits?

Nice. The drivers on this forum who aren't jerking off to the latest cover of Import Tuner just want to have a say once in a while. That's all. The review was poor quality. My point was...it was assumed a woman wrote it and suddenly it became about her menstrual cycle. I love my car, I love women but I'm above and beyond reading crap from kids who assume a uterus (if they knew where it was even located) controls a person's typing skills. Or, for the Import Tuner crowd, SKILLZ.

You, Miker, need to lighten up. You can have your say, but if the rest of us want to laugh and have a little fun, let us. Sheesh.

P.S. You had no reason to take a jab at me. I didn't do anything to you.

As a moderator here I'm going to have to agree with that and say lighten up a bit.

I hope he did a better job of covering the Berlin Wall and the Euro. Maybe the high pitched whine he complained about is just his ears still ringing from those two events.

I woudn't read any kind of agenda into the incorrect/negative things he says about the 8. Never mistake incompetence for malice.

Ken

Here's a story I found about some business reporter living up in Alert, Canada.

"THE TRUE NORTH BUSINESS REPORTER

Up here, we (we, as in I and the polar bears) don't get many cars to review. Well actually none. We've had a truck before, that was given to us, for cash... I suppose that constitutes us 'buying' it. So here is our review of the 2003 Mazda RX-8 GT.

Our car comes with Moonroof, AC, Heated leather seats, heated power mirrors, power everything almost, all on Bridgestone Potenza Tires on 18" rims. First thing I try is the moonroof. Hmm, this does not bode well, IT DOESN'T EVEN OPEN!!! Are these dummie buttons? or could it just be that it is frozen over? The heated seats took a while to warm up in the -40 degree weather.

When I received the car, there was no block heater as an option! And I've 'heard' issues about flooding the engine. But anyways, I got the engine started and throw it into first gear. First thing I notice about the 6 Speed manual is that it is EXTREMELY notchy and the clutch is very hard to press down.

Starting to move, well technically I couldn't because the Potenza's suck and have absolutely no traction on the ice! I could not believe it! One think I did like was that I could fit my 3 polar bear friends in the car, though we did exceed the weight rating and only got a measley 13mpg 'city' driving. Insurance rates were pretty good, though we had trouble getting insurance for act of god damage. On a side note, the AC worked wonderfully!"

Overall it seems like a pretty realistic review to me and is more informative about some things (buying one and demographics) than most car mags are.

You can't be serious. The only thing I agree with is the gas mileage. The thoughts about the styling was honest, some people may think it is too much. He was definitely going too far when mentioning the "cramped" seats and the "annoying" exhaust note. I get compliments on the exhaust note, and people always say the seats are comfortable. I sat in the back myself, and I wasn't cramped. If you think this review is "realistic" you are nuts. I don't see whats wrong with having a car that revs high.

"THE TRUE NORTH BUSINESS REPORTER
[snip]

...the AC worked wonderfully!"

So much for Car and Driver's complaint about the AC being wimpy.

Great road test; thanks for posting it.

Ken

You can't be serious. The only thing I agree with is the gas mileage. The thoughts about the styling was honest, some people may think it is too much. He was definitely going too far when mentioning the "cramped" seats and the "annoying" exhaust note. I get compliments on the exhaust note, and people always say the seats are comfortable. I sat in the back myself, and I wasn't cramped. If you think this review is "realistic" you are nuts. I don't see whats wrong with having a car that revs high.
The RX-8 has a very laid back exhaust note. An example of an annoying exhaust note would be a Neon SRT-4. The seats aren't that cramped. What is his comment in relation to, a Dodge Magnum or some other larger vehicle? I can tell you that the RX-8 seats, front or rear have more room than any Civic does. I have one. There is no room in the back. This is pretty typical of any small econobox type of car whether it be a Civic, Corolla, Impreza Sedan, Lancer, etc... The RX-8 has more room in back than many think it does. True that it gets poor gas mileage but then again lets put this in perspective. The Magnum rental car I had at Sevenstock had a V6 that got 15.3 mpg and it was much slower than an RX-8. Yes it had interior room but let's not single out the RX-8 as only having poor mileage. It's on par with many cars. Unfortunately people try to justify poor mileage of many other vehicles by making excuses about other benefits of them as if they cancel each other out.

It seemed like the material for half the review consisted of him watching the DVD, misunderstanding it, and then writing about his wrong interpretations. I don't get it, the DVD seemed fairly clear to me; how can someone who makes his living in a form of communication (writing in this case) get confused?

As to the other negative points (such as him complaining about a rough ride quality or cockpit like interior), you have to remember this is businessweek. The guy probably is used to riding around in BMWs and Lexuses (Lexi?) and is trying to evaluate the RX-8 as such when it shouldn't be. At the very least, he is correct in stating that the RX-8 is not for everyone; it's for people that like driving and cars and he obviously doesn't.

So I'm told "wait a minute, Miker" for suggesting the "douchebag" contributors go back to their anime or bangbus.com and the rest of the thread is about some stylegirl's tits?

Nice. The drivers on this forum who aren't jerking off to the latest cover of Import Tuner just want to have a say once in a while. That's all. The review was poor quality. My point was...it was assumed a woman wrote it and suddenly it became about her menstrual cycle. I love my car, I love women but I'm above and beyond reading crap from kids who assume a uterus (if they knew where it was even located) controls a person's typing skills. Or, for the Import Tuner crowd, SKILLZ.

i think this dude was molested as a child .. was it by the writer of that review??? just let go man

i like rx8's exhaust note and high pitched whine, its different and sounds cool.

I can't believe they actually published the comments I left on that article on their site, especially when I mistankely referred to the reviewer as a female multiple times on my comments. Bahahaha. :rofl:

I'm over 30 and I am just as horny now as I've ever been.
Sorry :offtopic:
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
OK done
Back to topic

Does the 'big engine' or the 'little engine' have more whine? :eek:

For engine quiet I will take my 8 over just about anything else - you can actually hear your tapes! It's only when you pass someone else's car that you can hear that lovely red-line singing as your rival doppler shift into the blue behind you! :rock:

And please don't mislabel the gender of the opinionated again - Mom says of your reviewer
"He might be prissy, but it was obvious, he was no lady!" :rofl:

Kimberly Lynn... Your Avatar is of you? Wow...I never bothered to stop and really look, but I thought it was Shannon Elizabeth!! She's gorgeous...that makes you gorgeous. Congratulations...you'll now have everyone drooling.

Guys, the reviewer obviously either:

1) Doesn't like cars or driving them, and/or doesn't know jackshit about them
or
2) Prefers/Is used to completely different type of cars (like someone said earlier, BMWs or Mercs)

He makes obvious mistakes, because probably (1) is the correct option, but he does point out the various intricacies of the RX series and the rotary engine.

Too bad he is a piss-poor driver. 7,5" for 0-60mph ? I did 6.9" for 0-100kph in my 4port Challenge, and I'm no Ayrton Senna...

So my face isn't good enough?

*gets out the butter/paper bag*

:tear:


You're friggon hot girl....Don't worry about these leg humpers. I don't see them posting pics of themselves and thank g-d for that :mdrmed:

Thanks Rotarctica. I disagree but *shrug* it's a compliment none the less.

DarkMaz8, haha, I wasn't worried about it. It was a joke more than anything else. :)

Kimberly Lynn - You're smoking hot. Damn, girl. I may be an admitted leg-humper, but I'm still discriminating in my preferences of hump-worthy legs.

Ace - I saw that, too (7.9 seconds to 60 with a M/T). The reviewer is incompetent on multiple levels, including basic ones such as driving. There is so much blatantly inaccurate information in the article that it is better to simply relegate it to the scrapheap.

DarkMaz8, haha, I wasn't worried about it. It was a joke more than anything else. :)



A pretty pic of your face in an avatar will only get you in trouble around here. :angel:

Meh I think everyone needs to calm down a little about this review. The guy obviously didn't do his homework, as indicated by his comment about the 8 being around for 5 years here. I do think he tried to keep it fair though, as he mentioned that the engine gets better over time, and that C and D were able to get 5.9 0-60 out of it.

I think the problem that everyone is having with the review is that he went at it from a sedan point of view. He compared it as if it should have the space and mpg of a camry. It's just like when car and driver knocks a Jeep wrangler for not being as quiet on the road as a Rav 4. These things happen.

Me, if I'm going to drop 30k on a sports car, I'm not going to be niggling about the extra $20/mo it costs me in gas. I could care less if it costs me an extra $3 per fill up to give it premium rather than 87, and I certainly wouldn't be bitching about how ergonomic the backseat is (although, Mazda really messed up the chances of anything fun happening back there due to that center console).

Just my two cents.

A pretty pic of your face in an avatar will only get you in trouble around here. :angel:

I'm known to start trouble so... nothing out of the ordinary.

Back to the topic, I agree with Zen. It's just a review. Whatever. Life goes on.


& Thanks Roto. :)

Kimberly Lynn - You're smoking hot. Damn, girl. I may be an admitted leg-humper, but I'm still discriminating in my preferences of hump-worthy legs.

Ace - I saw that, too (7.9 seconds to 60 with a M/T). The reviewer is incompetent on multiple levels, including basic ones such as driving. There is so much blatantly inaccurate information in the article that it is better to simply relegate it to the scrapheap.

7.9 is just sad! I can do 8 flat in my contour on a good day. Id hope a car that is rwd, has 60 more hp, and gearing where you dont need to shift 3 times for 60, would get a better time. I think my mom could get a better time than that.

I think the problem that everyone is having with the review is that he went at it from a sedan point of view. He compared it as if it should have the space and mpg of a camry. It's just like when car and driver knocks a Jeep wrangler for not being as quiet on the road as a Rav 4. These things happen.Agreed. And again, I can't be too hard on this reviewer because, whether he meant to or not, I think his thoughts reveal why the 8 doesn't sell particularly well: to someone who's looking for a "sporty-ish" car that seats four, the 8's not as practical as a traditional sedan—and to someone who wants a "real" sports car, the 8 is, well, just not like the other sports cars. In this country, at least, not being like the others = bad.

Let's face it—we happen to love a car that really is, well… different. And when something is really "different"—and those differences impact, even just a little, convenience and practicality—well, it's not going to be hugely popular. I have no problem never starting my car, moving it ten feet and then turning it off. Doesn't bother me at all. It's a quirk I'm willing to overlook because I love the car. And you know what? I like people and things that are different—even a little bit high-maintenance—if the differences are compelling and make me happy. I liked Betamax, I love my Mac, and I'm dating a girl who likes old Carole Lombard movies, so there you go.
:)

i predict a war will happen between the cars and hovercrafts in the year 2020. who side will you be on....

... I think my mom could get a better time than that.

You're really setting yourself up here.

priceless.. many people owned by there own comments.. :rollingla

Good thing Borat wasn't around; god only knows what else would have been said.. :rofl:

priceless.. many people owned by there own comments.. :rollingla

Good thing Borat wasn't around; god only knows what else would have been said.. :rofl:



Borat: Niiice!

Borat would have said "In my country trunk of RX8 is very much roomy for keeping the women until we need them to make sex with, yes???"

"and an odd triangular crease in the hood"

take no heed in about 1/2 of this review. Little statements like this make it more than obvious that this fella seems to be far from an enthusiast...an obvious prerequisite of a happy RX-8 ownership.

Otherwise, he is right...and i'll admit it. Very much so unconventional for the average yahoo who might point at it and say "that's the one i want...it just looks so cool".

i'm so confused by this...

I didn't risk my driver's license to test the theory, but it seemed to me you'd have to be well over 100 mph before you hit the redline in fourth gear. You almost wonder why Mazda bothered to put a six-speed transmission in the car.


on more important things... Kimberly, if you need some good roads to drive on just take I-78 across to the otherside of Deleware River and call me... boyfriends are not invited though :hahano:

My personal favorite in that area are the s-curves on 22 right before you get into NJ from PA. The speed limit is 35 through those, but you can take them at 80 on a good day. Just be careful coming the other way (west), as police sometimes camp out at the end of them.

Haha, r0tor, not so sure how the bf would react to me saying, "Sure, honey, just going out for a drive with some dude from the forum, you know". Otherwise, I'd be down (as long as you're not a psychoweirdo?)

Haha, r0tor, not so sure how the bf would react to me saying, "Sure, honey, just going out for a drive with some dude from the forum, you know". Otherwise, I'd be down (as long as you're not a psychoweirdo?)

Just tell him you're meeting a FWB... :yumyum:

I'd go for the drive. I don't ask my girl if I can hang out with other girls, I just do. That being said, it goes both ways. I don't really care/get jealous when she hangs out with other guys. It's all about security.

Have some fun once in a while!

Haha... okay. I'll go for the drive.

excellant... haha

I could never go for a chick who drove the same car as me. It's kind of like being with a woman who makes more money than you. Just doesn't feel right, in a misogynistic kind of way.

What's wrong with a girl who makes more money than a guy? Silly men and their superiority complexes. :lol:

I could never go for a chick who drove the same car as me. It's kind of like being with a woman who makes more money than you. Just doesn't feel right, in a misogynistic kind of way.

i WANT my wife to make more than me.......


lol

i'd envy having a superior GF.

*looks left and right*

pretty sure she's never on here.

i hope. :hahano:

O_o

They should take that review down. Full of bull and obviously the dude doesnt know shit about cars. Damn I hate people who owns a Prius giving sports car some shit .... oh wait, a Prius can Beat an Enzo in the 0-6 Run !!!!! :) :) :) :) classic.