which is better?
care to share?

Correct me if i'm wrong but this is what i know.

unichip rx-8 cannot use...
E-manage need to have the special one.. ask coupe07 i think only they carry the special type
re-map cannot tune up your air fuel ratio which is one of the important thing when you talking about tunning.

regards
Kelvin Koh

fr wat i gathered,onli the fcon-IS is able to bypass the 'loop sys' in our ecu;juz like in toyotas...

From what I have read up...unichip can be used on the rx8. Taka installed unichip on his 8 but from his writeup, it was abit disappointing. Emanage ultimate have recently released software ver 2.0 This update is suppose to address the problem faced by the earlier versions. According to mazdamaniac, emu can be used on the 8 as well and infact is now problem free. There is a way to force the ecu into open loop. As for the emu that RE uses and is said to be different from the emu that you can buy outside...well...it looks the same on the exterior but interior...i dunno. The japs like to hide hide hide...hahahaha.

Remap does tune up the afr and ignition timing. If not you pay so much money just to turn on the radiator fan early for wat? Mazsport got a cooling kit that turns on the fans early as well and prob cost a fraction of the money spend on remap. I think the ecu remap does tune up the afr and timing. But since it is not dyno tuned, my assumption is it is a target afr tune like some piggybacks or standalone with the function to auto tune to the target afr you set.

Actually...the search button is your best friend. Dun be lazy. kekeke

From what I have read up...unichip can be used on the rx8. Taka installed unichip on his 8 but from his writeup, it was abit disappointing. Emanage ultimate have recently released software ver 2.0 This update is suppose to address the problem faced by the earlier versions. According to mazdamaniac, emu can be used on the 8 as well and infact is now problem free. There is a way to force the ecu into open loop. As for the emu that RE uses and is said to be different from the emu that you can buy outside...well...it looks the same on the exterior but interior...i dunno. The japs like to hide hide hide...hahahaha.

Remap does tune up the afr and ignition timing. If not you pay so much money just to turn on the radiator fan early for wat? Mazsport got a cooling kit that turns on the fans early as well and prob cost a fraction of the money spend on remap. I think the ecu remap does tune up the afr and timing. But since it is not dyno tuned, my assumption is it is a target afr tune like some piggybacks or standalone with the function to auto tune to the target afr you set.

Actually...the search button is your best friend. Dun be lazy. kekeke
the e-manage ultimate by re-a is special becos a special chio is implanted inside. U will not find this e-manage ultimate anywhere in the market. Using the e-manage ultimate to tune ur NA setup is easting ur money. How much horses do u wan to gain from it?? Do u tink a NA setup can free up 30 horses???

Unichip wise, can use, but minimal gain.

The remap, as wat coupeM says, does more than speedcut and turning on ur raditaor fan early. Ignition timing and AFR oso are tuned and optimised to NA setup.

As to wat is best, go to someone whom u deem noe ur car best.

Tat would be Monster Garage! kekeke :)

i think i'll go for remap

Correct me if i'm wrong but this is what i know.

unichip rx-8 cannot use...
E-manage need to have the special one.. ask coupe07 i think only they carry the special type
re-map cannot tune up your air fuel ratio which is one of the important thing when you talking about tunning.Not meant as a flame, but since u asked to be corrected...

"unichip rx-8 cannot use..." Wrong, a few local 8s are running with unichips... improvement is not a lot because at the end of the day, all are NA setup.

"E-manage need to have the special one.." Wrong, EMU as stated by CoupeM

"re-map cannot tune up your air fuel ratio" Wrong, tuning the A/F and ignition is the whole point of doing a remap, along with a couple of other side benefits.

Good that you check what you know with the rest of the guys here... we're all here to learn more about the car we love afterall.

Not meant as a flame, but since u asked to be corrected...

"unichip rx-8 cannot use..." Wrong, a few local 8s are running with unichips... improvement is not a lot because at the end of the day, all are NA setup.

"E-manage need to have the special one.." Wrong, EMU as stated by CoupeM

"re-map cannot tune up your air fuel ratio" Wrong, tuning the A/F and ignition is the whole point of doing a remap, along with a couple of other side benefits.
Good one..... You busted him kau kau....

Ha ha.. that's why I stated right from the start that it's not meant as a flame. Just seems like he got misinformed by his sources. Anyway, good that we all ask and share information so everyone can benefit from collective knowledge.

As to wat is best, go to someone whom u deem noe ur car best.[/QUOTE]


i also guess must be monster liao...heehehe...
so wat u suggest?
emanage or remap?
btw mine is 5mt.....

Majority choose remap....... end......

i also guess must be monster liao...heehehe...
so wat u suggest?
emanage or remap?
btw mine is 5mt.....y do u wan to waste money on the e manage when ur stock ecu can do wat e manage can do???

it doesnt matter wat model ur car is.... juz ask eugene from mazda motors wat the remap has done to his 5mt...

Majority choose remap....... end......

gain alot?

y do u wan to waste money on the e manage when ur stock ecu can do wat e manage can do???

it doesnt matter wat model ur car is.... juz ask eugene from mazda motors wat the remap has done to his 5mt...


sorry for being a new..
but after remap then lata if i change my exhuast,air filter,fuel regulator...etc n other mods...
will it everything go cork up?
coz what i noe is that the ecu is the last ting to do after all the mods i wanna do....
is that rite?
remap gain lot?

sorry for being a new..
but after remap then lata if i change my exhuast,air filter,fuel regulator...etc n other mods...
will it everything go cork up?
coz what i noe is that the ecu is the last ting to do after all the mods i wanna do....
is that rite?
remap gain lot?

Fren, like what I told you on Fri nite, minor mods like exhaust, and air filter won't affect the remap.

As for fuel regulator, don't even touch touch it, the 8 wankel is not like those 4 cylinders.

As for gains, its NA, not much gains, more of optimisation of the current stock ECU. You want alot of gains, go for Force Induction.

Or want more gains from NA, VTEC is the only and best option for a NA car... :rock:

Fren, like what I told you on Fri nite, minor mods like exhaust, and air filter won't affect the remap.

As for fuel regulator, don't even touch touch it, the 8 wankel is not like those 4 cylinders.

As for gains, its NA, not much gains, more of optimisation of the current stock ECU. You want alot of gains, go for Force Induction.

Or want more gains from NA, VTEC is the only and best option for a NA car... :rock:


okie....then i try to put vtech on top of our rotoray then...hahahhahahaaa
thankz for the info.....

sorry for being a new..
but after remap then lata if i change my exhuast,air filter,fuel regulator...etc n other mods...
will it everything go cork up?
coz what i noe is that the ecu is the last ting to do after all the mods i wanna do....
is that rite?
remap gain lot?
the remap is ALREADY catered to you changing ur intake, all the way right up to your exhaust. Even if you dun change, u dun have loss of power. If u change, u gain the power. ie if u change the right exhaust manifold, cat and exhaust.

Take note, exhaust system = intake, exhaust manifold, catalyser and exhaust.

If u do anything else, like meddle with the fuel pump, dun come n blame the remap like some kuku oil rep who come and blame the remap when his engine oil cannot burn in the rotary engine.....

Who is the kuku oil rep?

Must be a bird..cause i only know of kuku bird. :P

[QUOTE=sqflyer]Not meant as a flame, but since u asked to be corrected...

QUOTE]

Bro tks for clearing the air... if not then the rest of the forumers will be misled by me.

Anyway don't worry.. it's for sure not meant as a flame as we are all here to learn new things..

But what i have said before is what i heard from those workshop that i been to. perhaps those were old info and i never did follow up..henceforth still carry the old info with me hahaa

regards
kelvin Koh

Who is the kuku oil rep?
erm... kuku oil rep lor... no point stirring shit again..

u mean kuku oil rep is shitty? heh heh... *stir stir*

u mean kuku oil rep is shitty? heh heh... *stir stir*
there..... that one lor.... u tot is from USA then end up find out from spore lor....

You mean Texas oil is not from USA??

Damn ! ...

there..... that one lor.... u tot is from USA then end up find out from spore lor....

there..... that one lor.... u tot is from USA then end up find out from spore lor....

bro...i was thinking....u remember the oil we used the last time?

why not you do some packaging to it and call it New Delhi Oil?

there..... that one lor.... u tot is from USA then end up find out from spore lor....

Now i remember.

Talking about ECUs. I really love the bloody Apexi SAFC NEO. But its not compatible with our 8. Sad...

Now i remember.

Talking about ECUs. I really love the bloody Apexi SAFC NEO. But its not compatible with our 8. Sad...

How do you know ? Care to elaborate ? I am thinking of buying the new model, cause I like the whole package (interface, looks, capabilities)...

How do you know ? Care to elaborate ? I am thinking of buying the new model, cause I like the whole package (interface, looks, capabilities)...
Very simple, RX8 wasn't inside the installation manual!!!! Quite a number of people have tried it, it won't work.....

Very simple, RX8 wasn't inside the installation manual!!!! Quite a number of people have tried it, it won't work.....

This was so for the previous SAFCII, but it was merely an issue of figuring out the correct wires to cut/splice....
Anyway, a guy from Taiwan has already mentioned that the japanese site of Apexi says that the Neo does NOT work with the RX8, so I guess we are out of luck. I sent an email to Apexi inquiring about the if and why of the Neo and RX8, but I guess the Blue or Ultimate may be my only options.....