View Full Version : Weight Loss: no compromise (except $$$)
DarkOwnt 10-27-2006, 09:47 AM Hi all:
If I will not accept losing any functionality, luxury, or amenity my stock RX8 comes with...
BUT if I do want to as much weight as possible... and am willing to "lose" any amount of $$$, what high-performance lighter parts should I look at?
I already bought 4 Enkei wheels which weigh 4-5 lbs less than stock per wheel.
What's next??
cheers
DO
Catback (possibly single, titanium would help too), catless midpipe, lighter tires, smaller/lighter battery, a lighter flywheel would lose weight and help with performance, etc...
You can chip away a little in a lot of places, but it's not the easiest thing in the world to do. Lots of the stock stuff on the rx8 isn't all that heavy.
alnielsen 10-27-2006, 10:40 AM At first when I saw the title, I thought this was spam.
I would say the battery is the next easy spot to reduce weight. If you live in a climate that is above freezing year around, you could try something like a motorcycle battery to start the car.
I have the Corksport Catback exhaust that is suppose to weigh 26 lbs lighter that stock. Titanium ones are even lighter. The engine and trunk hoods are all ready aluminum so don't plan on loosing anything their.
I think it's Team RX8, that races autocross, that has put his car on a diet and has lost a couple hundred pounds. Search on his posts and see what you can learn.
TeamRX8 has also removed stuff, though. The thread starter wants to keep all luxuries and lose weight other places. This is where it becomes somewhat difficult.
Argento Otto 10-27-2006, 12:01 PM Does your care have leather seats? Would going to cloth seats count as loosing an ammenity? Otherwise, that's an option.
Not sure if RX-8 aftermarket headers are lighter, but that's another exhaust-weight-savings option.
rglbegl 10-27-2006, 12:09 PM My girlfriend got fat. So I got rid of her and got a new one. saved me about 40-45 pounds. But this one is more expensive, so as long as you dont care about the $$$.........
So what model do you drive? Removing weight is not too easy, but if you have a bunch of plastic on your car . . . you can remove that to save a few pounds.
therm8 10-27-2006, 12:18 PM brake rotors and calipers. stock sized. RacingBrake? I believe had all 4 rotors and calipers at ~25-35lbs less than stock.
Renesis_8 10-27-2006, 12:46 PM I think at most you can remove is around 50lbs replacing stock parts with lighter parts. And for A LOT of money, like mag wheels, lighter brake rotors and calipers... Ti exhaust is expensive too! Since you want to keep all functionality, you can only remove stuff under the car, in the trunk and in the engine bay, and wheels/brakes. IMO its not worth it.
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tjbourgoyne 10-27-2006, 02:18 PM 200lbs is big deal but with funtionality in mind, maybe you could drop 100 if you really started digging in the weeds.
Wheels. You got that covered.
Battery. Worth looking into.
Engine cover serves no purpose.
Shift knob is quite heavy but it reduces vibration.
Washer fluid full is 14lbs. Just leave a litte in there.
Spare, jack, flat kit. I haven't had a flat in 10 years. I do keep an electric pump.
AC in the winter? 18lbs i believe.
Racing seats.
lighter exhaust system
That should be 100lbs+ without losing funtionality if you rationalize.
rotor_head 10-27-2006, 02:47 PM you should have bought a magnesium wheels.
Jax_RX8 10-27-2006, 02:52 PM I think you have to look at it from a total performance gain standpoint.
Some gains are obtained through weight loss, some by more power, some by better handling, etc. If in the end what you are seeking is better overall performance, then you have to look at all the modifications that will help you achieve those overall results.
Ericok 10-27-2006, 03:40 PM Helium in the tires? :o:
More easy stuff: no floor mats, no rear wing,
Paul_in_DC 10-27-2006, 10:38 PM If you're lightening it for the track, you don't want to remove the wing if it's an MS wing - you'll need the downforce.
TeamRX8 10-27-2006, 10:52 PM If I will not accept losing any functionality, luxury, or amenity my stock RX8 comes with...
you might as well sell it and buy something else :hahano:
but if you insist:
JIC Ti exhaust - light and quiet; 22# drop
Racing Brake front BBK and rear rotors; 28# drop
Lightweight battery; 10 - 20# drop
the wheel weight savings will mostly be lost once you install larger tires on them
due to your original limitation you're pretty much done, you might find a few # here or there, but any significant savings beyond this will cross the line you drew in the sand
tjbourgoyne 10-27-2006, 11:28 PM Drive it hard with a couple of gallons in it then do the same thing with a full tank. It's not the same kind of weight loss as rims, tires etc.... but should give you an idea of what it would feel like. It's marginally noticeable. I thought about going all out with the same idea but it's not worth it IMO.
Raptor75 10-27-2006, 11:49 PM Washer fluid full is 14lbs.
1/2 gallon of washer fluid equals 14 lbs????? Are you using the new lead mix fluid?
4 years to Supercharge 10-28-2006, 12:08 AM :lol:
I think it holds more than half a gallon Raptor75 doesn't it?
But I don't think it is more than a gallon. Water weighs 8lbs per gallon... just to get an idea.
The leather powered seat weighs more than a person would think with the motors and such. Think it is close to 75lbs. Leather passenger seat is easily 25lbs lighter.
tjbourgoyne 10-28-2006, 06:42 AM It does seem high, unless i'm reading this wrong.
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=81791&highlight=weight+rx8+parts
Paul_in_DC 10-28-2006, 10:13 AM Maybe that 14 pounds means fluid, tank and pump combined?
Paul_in_DC 10-28-2006, 10:16 AM The power leather seats make a big difference too at 55 lbs. Light(er)weight racing seats would help.
dillsrotary 10-28-2006, 10:21 AM Helium in the tires?
racecars actually use nitrogen i believe
Wasn't someone working on a Titanium powerplant frame (PPF)?
4 years to Supercharge 10-29-2006, 03:21 PM I believe that got dropped due to not enough savings for the cost and titanium isn't as rigid as most people think. It is resilient meaning it almost always returns to its previous point.
It is more springy.
Not sure if it would be a good idea for the PPF. That is what alligns the transmission and rear diff. If not alligned correctly there will be premature failure of the drivetrain.
4 years to Supercharge 10-29-2006, 03:25 PM Rotary God said there are aftermarket power plant frames available.
Charles H. Hill mentioned building a lighter PPF.
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=39584&highlight=ppf+weight
...cf hood (won't shave a lot but it will still contribute), cf trunk (trunk is not aluminum), cf doors, cf front & rear bumpers, braille auto/kinetik/odyssey/genesis lightweight battery, if you have HID's; ditch 'em for halogen versions, lexan rear side windows, lightweight flywheel, remove rear seats, titanium exhaust, cf seats (if you wana maintain the reclineble feature, look into status/cobra/bride), get rid of your fat wallet and go on a diet... it's not gon abe easy reducing weight while maintaining the luxuries on your car 'cause most of those are the heavy pieces.
longpath 01-09-2009, 10:35 AM :lol:
I think it holds more than half a gallon Raptor75 doesn't it?
But I don't think it is more than a gallon. Water weighs 8lbs per gallon... just to get an idea.
The leather powered seat weighs more than a person would think with the motors and such. Think it is close to 75lbs. Leather passenger seat is easily 25lbs lighter.
Is there a leather passenger seat from a RHD market that has the same airbags as the power driver's seat? If so, I think that would constitute a weight savings while still keeping to the spirit of the OP. It would have the leather, the seat heater, and the airbags. Alternately, could the seat heater and leather be installed on the seat frame of a standard (manual) seat?
skrubol 01-09-2009, 12:51 PM Hood liner (I think it's just for noise absorption,) and trunk upholstery can save a few pounds for free.
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